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Temperature and time have a curious relationship. A euclideanized time τ = it is related to temperature by τ = ħ/kT, for ħ the Planck unit of action, k the Boltzmann constant and T temperature. The imaginary number is "hidden" or buried so amplitudes of certain frequencies can be scaled and a path integral evaluated as a partition function. This equality occurs when the quantum fluctuation length L = cτ is the thermal fluctuation which determines the degree of "disorder" in the system. So the relationship is between time and temperature.

The partition function e^{-Eτ/ħ} = e^{-E/kT} assumes the energy is in thermal equilibrium so E = nkT = ST, for S the entropy. The entropy is then = energy/temperature.

LC

Coupling Thermodynamics and Time is also introducing causality and as said above entropy. Cuasality is a result of the "arrow" of time, and entropy is as we conclude only increasing so following the positive direction of the arrow of time in our six direction (taking zero as origin, left, right/up,down/ahead , reverse) universe).

The fact however is that we don't know if these "emerging" entities like time (past and future, the now is not existing) and of course temperature (a scale that is linked to a certain velocity of molecules) are a form of awareness of our human senses.

In the (as I see it) limited universe we live in (Planck length and time) , once we are approaching the lower limit , we are not experiencing "lumpiness", (building stones) but we are approaching the non-causal dimension, wher there is no longer before or after, so time has vanished. That is why any "clock" we construct is only of the essence in our causal 6 direction time universe.

When searching for a thermo-clock we still will not discover the essence of time which in my view originates in our consciousness.

What Amrit calls the observer being the absolute reference frame, has quite a paralel with the view of the consciousness being the antenna between the non causal "fifth dilension" of Total Simultaneity see Realities out of Total Simultaneity

think free

Wilhelmus

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    ahaha interesting.

    Me I have had 2 dollars !!

    Awards ahahahah and what after , a car and beautiful travels.And also a team of pseudos !!!

    Eckard the monney is an error, the vanity also and the pseudo teams also !!!

    Time will tell ....

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    Steve,

    The only possibly important result from 4,000,000,000 plus invested in the LHC might be the failure to confirm possibly faulty theories.

    Norbert Feist's experiment eventually just required a car, an ultrasonic range finder, some auxiliary equipment, and of course many hours of persistent carefully performed work including failed experiments within a wind tunnel in 2006.

    How much costs the average life work of a qualified scientist/engineer with two children in a highly developed country? Maybe it is in the order of 1,000,000 i.e. about 15 FQXi grants or 1/4,000 of what LHC costs.

    How valuable is Feist's result? One could argue that it was not necessary at all because the result was predictable on condition of correct reasoning. It just confirmed an insight by Paul Marmet.

    However, wasn't the whole community of experts blind in this case? It begun with Michelson and Morley, included Lorentz, FitzGerald, Poincaré, .... , Wheeler, ...., and possibly Feist himself.

    Alternatively I do not exclude that Feist decided to choose the title "Acoustic Michelson-Morley Experiment ..." and he claimed having disproved acoustic anisotropy of air just in order to cheat referees and get published which was unlikely if he claimed having discovered that Lorentz build on a fallacy.

    Just an aside, why did you mention "a car and beautiful travels"? I feel more happy without such achievements of questionable value. I do not even watch TV for decades.

    Eckard

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    Without real relevances. It is just a subjective appraoch by a philosophe.

    You try to interpret things that you do not really understand. If people wants to speak about the genarlity, please acept this generality and forget the pseudo extrapolations without real innovations and generalities.Frankly your reasonning is weak, like if this time was the cause of the consciousness. No but frankly, what do you think? It is not neither general, nor foundamental.The consciousness is a result of evolution......Quantum spheres.....H ....CNH.....EARTH HYUDROSPHEROID 3.6 BILLIONS YEARS AGO.....H2O HCN CH4 NH3 H2C2...+E.....AMINO ACIDS......evolution time......increasing of mass and complexification......unicells......pluricells....sponges....medusas.....fishs......reptilians ....correlated brains.....mammalians.......hominids.....indeed the time is a constant of evolution showwing the inrease of mass and correlated consciousness..........but where is the generality of this evolution at the quantum scale and at the cosmological scale also.......The universal sphere creates this consciousness.

    Furthermore, an, important point is that you confound the physicality and its 3 dimensions and this time constant.and the unknown behing the planck walls. You insert causality in a world without dimensions and temporality. Your resoning is weak and false. The physicality possesses its laws and its dynamics of polarization.The limits are bizarely understood and the borders also.Your simultaneities are falses. If you respected the physicality and its deterministic proportions, ok, but it is not the case.

    So I repeat, you confound the philosophical point of vue and its subjectivity and on the other side the physicality and its irreversibilities.

    Sincerelly and thinking rational.

    Steve

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    Hi Eckard,

    lol indeed, unfortunally it exists business teams around the foundamental researchs.

    But the real generalists exist fortunally. Is it important to invest in bizare extrapolations? No of course. Is it essential to continue to search the truths and the truth? Yes of course.

    The discourse, Descartian, about method seems so important, but perhaps that the correct reasoning is lost in the ocean of confusions.

    A time traveller or an extradimenisonalist do not need investments but courses !!! lol

    How is it possible to accept a false reasoning ?

    Eckard, about the travels and the cars, it was just a joke , it was not for you :)

    ps the tv for the informations and the films are interesting. The films help to dream a little in this world of crazzy. Have you not seen avatar for example ?

    ps2 me also I dislike the superficial of opulences, it is ruin of soul these artificial things. The secrets of the universal sphere are more than our human interpretations.

    EPR OR COPENAGHEN...........The quiet fight between the rationality and the subjectivity.....where are the convergences? in the pure determinism of course at my humble opinion.

    Best regards

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    Steve,

    A sensation is originally a physical feeling or an impression. Something that is sensational is so remarkable that it causes great excitement and interest. Perhaps we should rather call the experiment by Feist scandalous because at least here virtually nobody seems to be excited about its consequences.

    Anyway, while Feist's result is undoubtedly correct and confirms Marmet's shocking revelation, I do not see any idea how Milburn could just suggest a feasible experiment in order to check his musing that relies on speculations of others who on their part are also relying on meanwhile prematurely accepted speculative tenets, and so on, which ultimately go back to the now obvious fallacy of Michelson and Morley.

    Typically those like Milburn do not even need the money for their own life but instead for funding their students, e.g. the woman to be seen in the photo.

    Marmet's biography shows: In particular expert pensioners are in position to successfully deal with truly foundational questions while working independently of a secretary, a driver, an event manager, etc. to be paid. Unfortunately they often isolated, get ill, and die even before gaining attention, because institutions prefer too many competing fostered fellows who are only interested in their own employment and recognition.

    By the way, the idea of "thermal timekeeping" is not new. Half life methods work well as to measure how old trees, stones, etc. are.

    Well, as a non-user of TV, I am absolutely ignorant of avatar. The more my memory may associate. For instance, the name Romney reminds me of villages in Kent that where sea-ports and a center for smugglers.

    Eckard

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    well said Eckard. You are the only one here that I read with a lot of attentions. You have a very important knowledge. I learn with you.You know well your topics.It is cool to see these kind of discussions because you analyze the generality.

    So don't stop !

    sincerely

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    on the micro and macro level time is a numerical order of change.......

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      Hi Amrit,

      How are you? Fine I hope. I asked me but where were you ? happy to see you again on this platform.

      About you post,

      Indeed but with a complexification of mass by evolutive optimization. The numerical change on the entropical arrow of time is universal and deterministic. A little if we said that the spheres of mass polarises the spheres of light. That is why a main different sense of rotation is essential consideringt the linear light.If we take my equations with the 3 motions of these spheres.With of course a specific serie of volumes with a main central sphere. The numerical change is a specific road at the universal scale. Where the mass increases with the complemetary light....the volumes of spheres and their rotations spinal and orbital dance and make the symphony of evolution, spherical inside an universal sphere.It is fascinating this sphere and its spheres. We are inside a beautiful road of optimization spherization. The informations are conserved and the volumes are essential like the main central sphere of all uniqueness serie.Mass or light !

      Regards

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      You are mistaken, as unification in physics (that is, gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism together in an equivalent and balanced fashion) necessarily involves HALF gravity and half inertia, as this is the MIDDLE distance in/of space. This gives us invisible and visible space in equilibrium and balance.