Dear Ronald

You engineers may yet save physics - Dirac's practical training in engineering may have helped him in his thought processes. Physicists can get too imaginative, for example in the business of Einstein's problematic banishing of the aether, and a more down-to-Earth approach is now sorely needed. I enjoyed reading your essay and found it refreshing for several reasons. Never mind that I found your insistence to bring in Plato et al into the picture nice but unnecessary, and that I do not agree with your use of the photon-as-particle concept.

What I liked are 1-That you find a universal aether model acceptable and necessary 2- That you advocate a smallest-aether particle, your a-particle as the uilding block of everything (am I right here? I got lost a bit in the discussions of standard model particles) 3- That you explain dark matter and energy in terms of this a-particle.

If you read my fqxi essay Fix Physics! and Beautiful Universe Theory you will understand why I liked your approach. I need to have my (BU) theory simulated - any suggestions or help is welcome. My programming skills do not go beyond BASIC, but since you mention the Strong Force, here is a simulation I made trying to get a grip on its attractive-repulsive nature in terms of magnetic (BU) universal ether nodes. Three Magnetic Dipoles Provide A Physically Realistic Simulation of the Repulsive Attractive Nature of the Strong Force and of the Cabibbo Angle.

Cheers

Vladimir

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    Thanks for the kind words Vladimir

    In answer to your question - "your a-particle as the building block of everything (am I right here? I got lost a bit in the discussions of standard model particles."

    Yes I am a strong believer in this, just as we can derive complex computer programs from binary numbers which is 0 and 1's, which incidentally a Bose Einstein Condensate can occupy the same state 0 and 1, we are building quantum computers that use this same Form, idea. The gluon being a mass-less bosonic particle fits that bill. With no mass the gluon by itself doesn't have to obey the laws of thermal dynamics, therefore as Aristotle said "was neither hot, cold, wet, or dry, was incapable of change (with the exception of change of place)."

    About the gluon making all things and why I included the proton and neutron.

    "A proton is composed of two up quarks and one down quark, with the rest mass of the quarks thought to contribute only about 1% of the proton's mass. The remainder of the proton mass is due to the kinetic energy of the quarks and to the energy of the gluon fields that bind them together."

    Well that is where I included that progression of all the particles at it approached light speed in the illustration beginning with the gluon, the important thing about this is even though the gluon has a 0 charge it can still have two opposite charges occupying the same state which add up to 0. Notice 99 percent of the Protons mass is "due to the kinetic energy of the quarks and to the energy of the gluon fields that bind them together," (strong force). All the particles you see in that illustration are symmetrical, meaning for every - charge particle created there is an charge particle, matter and antimatter. It is no coincidence of the symmetry of the universe is this occurs because of the separation of the charges and gaining of mass as that particle is accelerated towards the speed of light. That gaining of mass is from the collapse of the bosonic condensate as that particle with mass is accelerated towards the speed of light against its will.

    I might being over emphasizing Plato's contribution to modern science but it fit my thought patterns when I wrote this.

    Vladimir I haven't read your essay yet but I will and leave you a post after I do.

    In answer to getting some of your work animated a good way to do that is to approach an Engineering student at your local collage that had extensive 3D AutoCAD training. A good way to do that is contact a mechanical engineering instructor who gives there students problems to solve in a project engineering class. That instructor may assign or ask any of their students if they would like an assignment for one of their projects creating an animation for you. My instructor was open to that.

    Note there are several other different programs other than AutoCAD that someone can make an animation for you, especially the gaming students.

    Hopefully this helped.

    New LHC Results: We Were Sure We Found the Higgs Boson, and Now We're Even Surer

    A nearly 6-sigma result says we are now surer than sure that the God particle is real

    Researchers at CERN and the world over were already sure they had found the Higgs Boson--five-sigma sure--but in case there were any lingering doubts a new round of results coming out of Geneva further backs the earlier findings. One team there now reports a 5.9 sigma level of certainty that the Higgs exists. That equates to a one-in-550 million chance that the results are incorrect reflections of statistical errors.

    Higgs

      Ronald,

      Peter Higgs must cringe every time he hears the phrase "God particle." :-)

      I've only just scanned your essay, though I will come back for a thoughtful read, because I find it interesting that one would take this upside-down approach from the Greeks, basing fundamental physics on an indivisible particle while most physicists (including Higgs) pursue field theories.

      At any rate, good luck in the contest. (I also have an entry.)

      Tom

      I agree for once Tom :), you know Tom , the sciences community seems loosing its foundamental road .

      I ask me why ? perhaps that it is just due to business team around fearing to loose investments. So perhaps even that people invent false results.

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      I'm neutral on the choice of approach, Steve. I don't think there is virtue in preferring one over another. There is virtue, however, in trying to understand others' thinking, even if one thinks they are "false results."

      Tom

        Indeed Tom , but apparently a lot of scientists do not really love the critics. Tom, could you help me to be accepted in an university in USA? I d like have my doctorate in physics. I could imrpove my works.I d like also learn engeniering and computing. I do not know all you know Tom, I have never said that I knew all.I am arrogant indeed but you know I am just a young searcher wanting to be recognized for his researchs and wanting to learn more in the good universities with the good mentors and professors. I have found an improtant thing Tom, you know it, I d like learn more and I d like test my models and inventions with good partners. Belgium is frustrating. Ihave already had a business angel from Paris, I must admit that I am a little parano.

        I d like find the good university. I have always dreamed to learn in an american university.Like I have already explained, I was in geology at the FNDP of Namur Belgium. But I have had neurological probelms.It was difficult you know after.I have learned by myself. I have always this dream you know.

        Regards

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        Steve, this is not an appropriate place to discuss such things. It would be stealing space from Ronald. I will give you a reply in my own essay forum, if you want to take it up there.

        Tom

        Tom

        If you look in the book of the guy that coined the name "The God Particle" Leon Lederman you can see where I got my inspiration from. He has a moment at the beginning of the book where he imagines talking to Democritus about his "Atomic Theory" the indivisible atom. See even Nobel prize winning Leaderman believed there must be a simple reason why everything behaves like it does starting with the smallest indivisible atom but he couldn't put it all together. That is what I am trying to do.

        Now there is nothing wrong with field studies, however what is in that Higgs field but bosons, Higgs bosons, -w bosons, +w bosons, z bosons, gluons bosons and maybe the yet to be detected axion boson, what some think is dark matter.

        Thanks for the reply good luck in your entry, I will check it out.

        Ron

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        Ron,

        Oh yes, I know. I loved Lederman's book. I'll have to read your essay honestly, though, before I can make an intelligent comment on the technical content.

        Best,

        Tom

        Dear Ronald

        thanks for your comments - this and the one on my page which I will answer there.

        What you say about proton mass being mostly kinetic energy makes sense - that fits in with my concept of ether nodes locked in polyhedral arrangements even while they spin in place. Being self-taught in current physics (as opposed to what I studied at University in the 1950's!) I studied things as I came upon concepts that fitted in with what I knew before. My approach started with optics, energy transfer in fields, and that gave me an approach to quantum mechanics and gravity as well.

        Particle physics was something I mostly left alone till now - but with all of this excitement about the Higgs I will have to make a concerted effort to try to understand what is going on and how that might fit in with the rest of my theorizing. Axons may well be what I think of as ether lattice nodes.Is there any chance that the Higgs field is not something pervading all of space but is like a sheath around the nuclear particles?

        Many thanks for your suggestions about asking someone proficient in 3D AutoCad to simulate my Beautiful Universe interactions. Good idea. That however would only show how the interactions occur as an animation reflecting my guesses about the physical situation. I was also considering a computational approach whereby each state of the lattice is calculated according to the physics of node to node interactions (diffusing angular momentum). There is an online group SciLab connected to Matlab I have been considering approaching but first I have to detail the physics of energy transfer in the lattice in quantifiable form.

        Best wishes

        Vladimir

        One of the assumptions I tried to solve is what really is a photon, when an electron moves from a higher orbit to a lower orbit it gives off a photon. What happened, I used Randels Hulet explanation of condensation collapse to explain it in the image I provided on the essay another proof that an luminiferous aether exists which is a field made up of bosonic particles, Higgs field, reacting to a passing boson.

        "The experiments led by Randall Hulet at Rice University (the attraction overwhelmed the zero-point energy of the harmonic confining potential, causing the condensate to collapse in a burst reminiscent of a supernova explosion where an explosion is preceded by an implosion). Alternatively, the additional atoms could trigger the rapid collapse of the entire condensate. Here, we're talking about the possibility of observing all the atoms in this coherent entity collapsing together at once," Hulet says. "This is similar to what happens in a supernova." Theoreticians predict that such an outcome is possible because of a process called macroscopic quantum tunneling, which makes possible a wholesale transformation of the condensate from a low-density gas to a higher-density state."

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        Dear Ronald

        I understand a little about what you are saying but how do you explain wave theory, for example the two slit experiment. Does you essay explain this as a particle behaving like a wave or a wave behaving like a particle?

          When the essay was announced I wrote over 18 pages for the contest, some of the ways I define light was edited out. Now some people think that since light behaves like a wave in the double slit experiment then light is a wave which if you saw another one of my illustrations I will make public soon on my website then you will see how I explain other ways this can happen.

          One shortened example is if an deaf observer looked down from a bridge overlooking a river at the calm water below him, he was waiting to see his friend in a speed boat come out from the other side. His friend, on the other side of the bridge in the water below him was traveling very fast in a speed boat, particle, racing through the river when it suddenly hit the side of the bridge which had two narrow slit-like opening that water gently flowed that he went through many times before that supports the bridge, the boat sudden crashed in between the slits and sinks to the bottom of the river, whereas the wave emitted by the boat continues on past the wall of the bridge through the slits. The person on the bridge would see large interference-like waves propagating through the calm water below him much like you would see waves traveling through the two slit experiment, but he won't see what made that wave. The waves in this example transferred information from the particle, boat, to the observer that an event happened.

          Now picture the same speed boat moving through the slits, approaching the slit the boat is traveling faster than the waves, however something happens when he gets between the slit and there is a wave bounces off the walls that suddenly slows him down, now the waves through both slits are traveling faster than the boat and moves out in front of the boat. When the speed boat comes out on the other side the waves creates a wake and an interference that moves the boat sideways where it settles moving forward at the peak of the interfering waves. That is what happens when the electron moves through the double slits that bounce off the wall on the other side. The pattern is similar to the pattern of binomial distribution also known as the quincunx or Galton box that a machine consists of a vertical board with interleaved rows of pins. Balls are dropped from the top, and bounce left and right as they hit the pins see:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galton_board

          Now when we measure the wave we interfere with the wave moving out in front of the particle, so the particle will move forwards as if it wasn't disturbed. Measuring the wave in a higgs field, alias aether, full of bosons we disturb the medium that the wave will pass through. Remember particles in a BEC can occupy the same quantum state therefore if one boson moves all other ones moves equal amounts like soldiers in a parade therefore wiping out the interference causing the particle to in move in a straight line.

          Hopefully this will help.

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          Dear Ronald - nice example of the speedboat and the bridge! The analogy explains the particle double-slit interference as the interference of the wave-field surrounding the particle, but following SR I doubt the speedboat (particle) can travel faster than its bow wave (speed of light). The idea that a particle's field is what causes the interference has been part of my Beautiful Universe (BU) Theory see Fig. 32. A refinement was published last April in Physics Forum as per the attached figure. The same idea was mentioned in Q5 of my fqxi essay Fix Physics! . I did not know the name of the Galton Board you mentioned, but I used the idea to describe quantum probability (see Fig. 29 of my BU paper). Change is in the air, and great minds think alike :D

          I have no doubt that with all our new interpretations of old ideas ripe to be discredited, a New Unified Physics will soon emerge along realistic and much simpler lines than at present.

          Best wishes,

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            Dear Vladimir

            I do agree we do think mostly alike but at the same time have different views of how the duality of light works that may be a good thing, I will go to the link you provided and check yours out more. Whoever is right on this important questionable property of quantum mechanics should eventually get credit for their contribution to science, its the vetting process when others do not support our ideas that can be the most painful.

            My reference in my essay on light waves is that the particle, photons is just a trapped buildup of charge within a gluon from the collapse of a bosonic condensate in a Bose Einstein Condensate, BEC, as first discovered by Hulet When he cooled titanium atoms close to absolute zero. In the BEC [here we are talking about the possibility of all the atoms collapsing together at once. This is similar to what happens in a supernova]

            How I see light emitted after an electron moves from a higher energy level to a lower energy level is that it collapses the bosons in the Higgs field, remember the Higgs field is made out of different bosons and if I am right it builds up charge in the photon. As I see it all bosons have diamagnetic properties toward one another that is part of their superconductivity effect, as a result a boson like the photon is repelled by the Higgs field, Aristotles aether, because of its diamagnetic properties. The photon charge gives off a projected magnetic field that momentarily induces an electric field in the Higgs field as it passes by, this is how we may see the magnetic filed as being perpendicular to the electric field. As I see it the speed of the projected magnetic field which induces a wave is the speed of light. This is how I interpret how the Higgs field works, it is an atmosphere of bosons around matter with the Higgs boson as the anchor that is strongly bound to that matter but the further away from matter it gets the more it resembles an axion field, in deep interstellar and intergalactic space it may resemble a gluon field.

            Sorry I got way off track here but let me go back to try to explain how I see a photon or a particle as it passes through the slits. I see photons as having a build up of charge that determines its intensity when you measure it, it adds up to 0, similar to a neutron build up of charge adds up to 0. When the photon goes through a dense Higgs field between matter, the slit, the particle is suddenly slowed down but the wave isnt so the wave still traveling the speed of light gets ahead of the particle and interferes on the other side of the slot with its waves that goes through both slits before the particle does. The particle now surfs the interfering waves on the other side giving us the scattered effect pattern that we see. However if we try to measure the photon we disturb the wave preventing it from getting ahead of the particle so now the particle stays ahead of the wave which gives us the straight line effect that we expect to see.

            Good Luck,

            Ron

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            Ron,

            Very interesting essay. I may adapt part of your essay to my own future work. My essay is here. The difference would be that "When this happens the axions and or the other particles trapped in the condensate collapse into a point-like denser particle occupying a single pointlike state, all the atoms in this coherent entity collapsing together at once, that gives off what we see as a photon." would instead be that the collapse is to a less-dense state. I would adapt Marcoen J.T.F. Cabbolet's Fig. 2 image as spherical holes. Thus instead of comoving with particles that make up a perfect fluid (elastic medium) it would instead describe comoving with reduced density waves traveling in an elastic medium. Comments on my essay appreciated.

            Regards,

            Jeff Baugher

            Jeff this where I got that idea:

            Here

            "Though vastly different in scale, a giant star near the end of its life and a clump of lithium atoms chilled to a temperature near absolute zero may share a similar fate. In a supernova, immense gravitational forces drive a stars collapse, which in turn triggers the explosive disintegration of the star. Recent theoretical work suggests that a sufficiently large number of lithium atoms congregated in a state of matter known as a Bose-Einstein condensate can likewise collapse into a denser state, then explode.

            Randall G. Hulet and his coworkers at Rice University in Houston described indirect evidence of this atomic phenomenon this week at an American Physical Society meeting in Washington, D.C.

            At room temperature, atoms of a gas move about independently, bouncing around and traveling in random directions. At extremely low temperatures, however, atoms of such elements as lithium, sodium, and rubidium collectively enter the same quantum state and act as a single,coherent unit, creating a Bose-Einstein condensate (SN: 2/8/97, p. 87). In such a state, rubidium and sodium atoms weakly repel each other, whereas lithium atoms attract each other (SN: 9/9/95, p. 164). Lithium atoms tend to clump together, Hulet says. They want to collapse into a denser state."

            Some scientist are trying to use this technique, collapsing matter in a BEC, in fusion research. Good luck on your essay I will check it out.

            Ron

              For some reason that link didn't take: this is the link I was talking about here:

              Here

              Thanks

              Ron