Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,
I think, the ratio of chemical potential with gravitational potential in lattice of multiple localities determines the consciousness; in that sub-atomic gravitation also to be included.
With best wishes,
Jayakar
The Conciousness Connection by Wilhelmus de Wilde
dear JJJ: the ratio of chemical potential is causal, the gravitational potential is emerging, our causal part of consciousnes is emerging once the material (chemical and biological) is set, this causal part of consciousness however is a part from the eternal consciousness alphe probabilities in TS and so in itself is also eternal. sub atomic gravitation is a possibility to be studied, perhaps it is a different "emerging" form of attraction on another scale as our marco scale.
Wilhelmus
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A fascinating, original and densely packed essay. I had to read some parts three times to fully glean the meaning, but worthwhile. It reminded me of my own, where a cursory reading will not allow engagement with the important key concepts wherein the value lies. As you know, I prefer to unravel and rationalise the falsifiable physical universe, so all the better to see the same job done well with free thinking about the conciousness realm. I suspect your Architectural training must help in funding that new perspective.
You should be aware that I entirely agree with the concept that your "α- P singularity in Total Simultaneity harbours ALL histories of ALL the possible universes" along with a fully physical representation of that metaphysical concept.
Also that; "What we perceive as chaos is in fact order", which I feel is one of the most fundamental truths beyond the current perception of human 'science'.
Very well done, and best of luck.
Peter
Thank you Peter for your encouraging words. In the 2011 contest you were the first to post a comment and rate my essay, I will never forget that, in the past year I learned a lot from all the objects that were treated by FQXi, and I hope that my new essay is mirroring these thoughts. Good luck to you also.
Wilhelmus
Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,
As I am unable to understand your replay, will you please elaborate a little more. I think the assumptions I refer is not been noticed.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Dear Azzam, the speed of light is locally bound to a maximum, in reference to other "parts" of our awareness it can differ. Be aware that I say awareness, because in our causal experienced universe, (which may be a dream) the speed of light is maximised. Once you go compare our so called material existence (which is only in the past) with other causal entities (information that is received by our consciousness) you are comparing alpha-probabilities from TS, and these are not comparable, only your memories and the theories that are created in your consciousness can be compared. Your formula's e"explain" these interpretations and you can exchange them with other consciousness (like mine), the problems so of your "energy" and "mass" interpretations that are influenced by SR (history) are real for you but perhaps not for others. There is no chicken and egg problem, it is all in our mind. It is our causal existance that has birth and death which causes us to find the "first" cause, but in fact this first cause is YOU. Hope to continue our conversation. Wilhelmus
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Dear Wilhelmus,
The crisis of physics concepts, principles, and laws that there are two theories describing two worlds, the macro, and the micro, they are the relativity and quantum. what I did in my graduation research in 1996 I formulated new theory that unifying the two theories at the same concepts, principles and laws, depending on the latest experimental results of both. I still remember the seminar of discussing my research in 1996, when I told my doctors, it is possible measuring speeds greater than light speed in vacuum for particles or electromagnetic waves without violation of Lorentz transformation or causality. At that time my doctors told me it is difficult to proof that at this time. The experimental results of quantum tunneling and entanglement are considered good proof for what I predicted. Existing a particle in two states at the same time is good proof for my modified relativity. OPERA, ICARUS, and SN1987a, Cherenkov radiation and The Pioneer anomaly are good proof for my modified relativity. The definition of the quantum field theory to the vacuum energy is good proof for my theory. the discovering of Higgs boson is is good proof for my theory. I have many to say about my theory, and I hope to discuss it depending on the unsolved problems in physics related to quantum and relativity and depending on the latest experimental results and how can be solved all of these problems according to the modified relativity according to quantum. If you would like, I'm ready to discuss each problem step by step. I would like to start with the Higgs boson and how it related to my theory COMALOGY in my next comment.
Dear JJJ,
In the model of your Coherently-Cyclic Cluster-matter Universe, you also indicate that point like is impossible to describe. Aren't you saying the same as I sais only I stop any material existence at the Planck length. You say : "Time is within the framework of dimensionality", I say "Time is an illusion created by our consciousness", however after this you come back with the "infinite Cycle Time, with Finite Duration", I think that we agrre together here only am placing this "moment" in Total Simultaneity and call it alpha-probability, that is to be "contacted" by our consciousness and so forming a beta time point (to become aware) in our causal universe. I like very much your essay, the string theory perception is one I do not share, because here also it seems a theory that goes to an infinite reductionism, rather then an emerging reality.
Wilhelmus
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Dear Wilhelmus,
The Higgs boson and The COMALOGY http://vixra.org/abs/1206.0002
In my theory I consider the beginning of existence or the universe at t=0 is from energy not mass. Mass is created from energy. I name this state is the infinity state, it is the state of infinity energy and zero mass. At this state The spacetime length equals to zero. the light system is located at the infinity. At this state there is no past or future, there is only present. All the information that I live in my material world is coming from the infinity by the spacetime length. Since we have the mass, thus mass is creating the spacetime length greater than zero. Mass is a reluctance to receive all the information elements of all my life history in a zero spacetime length or at the same present. The higgs boson is creating this reluctance and creating the mass and the spacetime grater than zero. If there is no Higgs boson the particle will own rest mass equals to zero and thus its location will be in the infinity state same as the light beam. This illustrating why the particle without Higgs boson will move with speed of light in vacuum. The speed of light c is measured relative to a system which owns rest mass greater than zero, and c is locally constant. c is related to mass. The origin of the universe is not the mass, it is the energy. at t=0 everything in the universe was energy, and by existing the Higgs field it is created the mass and the speed of light c and the space and time what we know now, all of that are created at the time equals to blank time. Blank time is the time separation between the mass and energy. If I could leave my mass, and I transferred to energy, I'll find all my life history in the infinity state with me at the same present without future or past. The God particles forbidden me to reach that, they created my mass, time, space, and then past and future. Please read my paper http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1272 that interpreting what is the time and space according to our mass, and how I receive my information elements which are exited in the infinity state, and what is the meaning of the wavefucntion and the collapse of the wavefunction, all of these definitions are creater by mass.
1st timer submission, not yet submitted, while reviewing similar works for End Notes.
Loved your paper as I am pursuing "panpsychism" as a consciousness of ALL things.
Approaching problem from "0" it would seem that the question, "Why do ALL things do what they do?" is apropos. I separate the identity of mass and energy as an inscribed sphere, tangent to the face of a regular tetrahedron, respectively. Interestingly enough they have equal surface-to-volume ratios at any size implying an equivalent "activity", or free energy. I've applied this in several ways.
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Hi Ted, I really want to learn more about "panpsychism". My first essay : "Realities out of Total Simultaneity" was also the first time that I took part in a contest and the first time that i wrote an essay on thoughts that I had already a long time, in this essay I explain more about Total Simultaneity, but this last one is more "organised". You mention the tetrahedron , hwhat do you think about the Dodecahedron, this polyhedron is containing ALL other five Platonic convex regular polyhedra. I see forward to your essay, of course you may use it in end notes. Wilhelmus
Why complicate the matter when the contrast between tetrahedrons and spheres can define equivalent actions of energy and mass? Composed of both by a tiny particle, the electron, it mediates contacts with all particles, atoms, molecules, bacteria, etc. around that suffer "feelings", i.e. panpsychism. Are they slaves to me or am I to them?
Dear Azzam: You accept a point ZERO in your perception of the creation of our reality. In my interpretation there is no ZERO point in our causal universe, the limit is the Planck time before that : non causal Total Simultaneity. You say Mass is created from energy, but it can also be the other way around, so both mass and energy are just a way of our perception of "reality". Infinite energy is difficult to imagine, I struggled with the same problem and introduced the infinite probabilities in TS, NOT IN OUR CAUSAL UNIVERSE. Your spacetime length is also ZERO, which is in my perception not possible, again I created the limit of our causal universe at the Planck length and time. The idea of past and no future only present is interesting, it equals my view of the alpha probaility point in TS, only these points together form ALL the presents possible, and they are non-causal.About the Higgs boson I have no specific ideas, only that I think that we are chasing ghosts, I think that gravity and mass are emergent from side effects from TS. (see for that also the theory of Verlinde (quoted in my essay as refernce).Our paralels are in what you call "information elements exited in the infinity state" this is almost the same as my description of TS. I printed out your essay and will come back on it. Wilhelmus
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Dear Wilhelmus,
I have read your essay. It is well written and enjoyable. I really do grasp your spheres of simultaneity explanation as I can fit it quite easily with my own way of thinking. About 2/3 of the way through I think, (it was some time ago that I read it) you began to loose me and it got complicated for me. Partly, I think, because of my own (unhelpful) resistance to what you were saying or how you were saying it.
It seems that you are talking about the equivalent of observer interaction with the data pool, in my way of talking. You wrote:"Free will makes the choice of an infinity of alpha-Ps in TS." That seems to tie in with what I have been saying to Tom and others on Julian Barbour's blog thread about the whole set of possible transformations of an object existing as data in the environment:I might interpret your "an infinity of alpha-Ps in TS" as all of the potential data, co existing simultaneously in the environment, from which an observer will select an incomplete set; from which his personal fabrication of external reality will be constructed.
It is a fascinating essay, though I do perhaps have to read your essay again to get used to how you are using the language to describe various concepts in order to thoroughly understand it.I hope you get lots of helpful feedback.Good luck.
Thanks a lot for your feedback Georgina, Your interpretation of my aalpha-probabilities in Total Simultaneity is quite all right I think, although I do not have your mathematical background, only the "environment" is not in our actual causal universe. It is also perhaps my english that is not 100% that makes it difficult to understand. I also read your essay with great interest, indeed we have paralel thinking. A great difference is I think that I deducted that our consciousness is "acting" in the "future" to create the past, a future that we at the very moment of perception it takes 200 ms for our machinery to become "aware") are not yet aware of. So we create our "reality" unconscious by our consciousness. That is in fact the great difference with the rest. Wilhelmus
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Hi Wilhelmus,
I don't have a mathematical background. My degree is in biological sciences. I passed a course in statistics but there was not much mathematics other than that involved.
Yes I agree that the brain is processing information it has received ahead of awareness as a present, so using the normal temporal language that processing must be happening in the future compared to the observer's present experience. (There is experimental evidence to support that, some of which was shared at the last FQXi conference.) I do not regard that future to be somewhere else in time though, it is all happening simultaneously. The next present is being fabricated simultaneously with the experience of the current present, which is all happening in uni-temporal space (I mean by that space that has no time dimension but is fully simultaneous, which I think you call TS)
Yes when I talk about the external environment I am not talking about the space-time fabrication of the observer which he is experiencing as a sequence of presents but the space and arrangement of objects that exists unobserved.IE. Not the sequence of "patchwork" outputs from receipt of incomplete information and its processing but the source of the data. They are shown on different levels on my diagram 1. to show their apparent separateness even though they can only be within the same uni-temporal space. I have likened it to the whole fantasy realm inside a book. I also talk about the data that has the potential to become an observer's present experience but has not yet been received as pre-written futures, (Potential presents).
Wilhelmus, you are right that your essay is different from the rest in explaining that -very- important temporal peculiarity of reality. There are just a small number of people who really understand it and the consequences of it. I really feel privileged to have met someone here who does understand it and who will be able to empathise with the difficulty of clearly conveying to other people the concept, and its importance.
Dear Georgina, as a biological scientist you really have a wide view on the foundational questions of life and our experience of what we call "reality". As I read your post we agree fully on the different ideas only we use other words. Indeed "all potential presents" are in my TS, but also all the possible pasts and futures, comparable with (there are no words to express it clearly) a slice of a block universe (for each alpha-P) contracted to a singulairity. Indeed a book not yet read, but once read you could reread it if you wanted, the only thing is that we cannot (yet) control our causal part of our consciousness to perform the reread (sometimes it happens involontary and then people cal it "incarnation" when the book of someone who passed away is being read and becoming part of the life-line of the lliving causal individual. With this interpretation I can explain a lot of so called "weird" things that just become normal, but in this framework it is not applicable. By the way it is not easy at all to publish these perceptions, I know that my perceptions are only based on the sciences of today , so tomorrow perhaps they will have to change, but ...
Thanks again for your understanding.
Wilhelmus
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What are the theological implications of this discussion?
Dear Ronald. Of course when I came to the interpretation of Total Simultaneity ( the first thoughts are in "Realities out of Total Simultaneity", the first FQXi essay) I realised that this way of thinking was touching also much theological implications. I hesitate to begin this part of the discussion because of the fact that on FQXi we are discussing "science" and when you are starting a discussion on these "theological" implications , the participants will easily call you a "crackpot", just because of the fact that the object has a ùmore philosophical approach. I am already very yhankfull to FQXi that they accepted my essays. The fact that the "Templeton Foundation" is one of the financial supporters of FQXi, does not mean that we have to enter with threads in the dierction of "theology", because I think thet the Templeton Foundation" is really trying to find the most foundational answers that mankind is looking for, not being a certain "religion" but trying to find out why humanity always had a last answer when we asked about our "WHY".
My approach is only one of the many, and never I will say that it is the only one, because then I would make the same mistake as every "religion" has done before, my interpretation of the "reality" is one that is based on our scientific knowledge of TODAY, and verybody knows that ttomorrow we can and will find out new enigma's. The interpretation of Total Simultaneity is indeed one that could be an explanation of our "GOD" experience, just like in Christianity it is the human consciousness that is the origin of "everything", the triangle of causal consciousness, non causal alpha-P consciousness and causal Beta time, can be explained in the Christian view as "Christ" (human), The Father and the holy Spirit, this is just a coincidence and I do not want to make it a basic essence, because also the TS is the total of all probable universes, paralel and multi, it is our (causal)consciousness that acts as an antenna between TS and the causal world and so creates it out of the CHAOS (GOD ?) In this way the the causal consciousness is also non causal (devine?) and the universe as we are experiencing it (thanks to "objective simultaneity spheres" that are the cause of decoherence) as fine tuned to our living necessitys. This interpretation of Ts can also give the "oeace" for our souls because in this way all the "alpha-probailities" are eternal "existing singulairities , the points that formed our live-lines are eternal, even you could imagine that our live-lines are eternal in an infinite dimension, that is why we are able to contact other life-lines from the past or from the future.
I just gave a few indications of the theological implications, and I am working on a separate essay. I hope you undersatnd my reluctancy to answer you.
Wilhelmus
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I am but a simple layman. Although I got straight As in physics, this stuff you guys write about is off my comprehension charts.
I ask the question because I wish to explore whether or not 21st century science and 21st century theological thinking are - perhaps - on the same path of exploration.
For example: I believe (but can not prove) that the implications of quantum physics and e = mc2 open the door to a radical new interpretation of our Cosmos (all that there is) and universe (all that we can observe). This could lead to a more credible explanation of how (and why) we humans have a sense of the spiritual (however expressed in various religions).
I was delighted to read Stephen M. Barr's dissertation "Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God" because it opens up the possibility of a thoughtful (science based) discussion.