BITTERS by Joe Fisher

Joe, this is a nice easy read with some interesting points. I agree that there is no absolute certainty. I think that is what quantum theory tells us but only for the first level when there are actually multiple layers of uncertainty.

I like the idea that reality is a simple as a game of paper-scissors-stone and that we are just over-complicating it with our theories. I hope we can reach the point where we can see it that way one day.

What is the meaning of your title "BITTERS"? I did not really get that.

Joe

"the only way I could have done so would have been by taking my shoes and socks off and by looking at one of my real toes. Real toes are unique. I presently possess a set of real toes no other person who has ever lived"

Indeed, everything is different. But it goes further than that. We tend to, for somewhat obvious reasons, conceptualise existence in terms of 'things'. However, in reality there is no toe. What we are doing is defining existence at a higher level than how it actually occurs, by identifying certain superficial physical attributes and deeming them to constitute a 'thing', which we then believe continues to exist so long as these attributes are manifest. Indeed, we still talk of the same 'thing' when it has altered in some way. Which is a contradiction, it cannot be the same if something has altered.

Your toe is a sequence of physically existent states (realities), each one being different.

Paul

Joe

It is not uniqueness that is being sequenced. The concept of existent toe, White House, Andromeda Galaxy, etc, etc is physically incorrect. That is a representation of what is actually existent at a higher level of conception than what occurs. At the physical level, there is a sequence of unique physcally existent states. However, the degree of differentiation is such, ie so minimal, that it appears that the entity (ie toe) persists in the same physical form over time.

Paul

Dear Joe,

Very nice essay!

You wrote:

The Universe is not all that difficult to understand. If you are familiar with the Rock, Paper Scissors hand gesture selection game, you have already acquired all of the information you will ever need in order to understand how the Universe actually operates.

AND:

But there is only one real Universe once and there is only one real or imagined event once.

I agree with the first statement.

But the second could be wrong if we have absolute symmetry starting with the big bang.

In that case we live in a mirror universe or multiverse, where no only me but also a second anti material me plays Rock Paper scissors.

See perhaps:

Wavefunction Collapse and Human Choice-Making Inside an Entangled Mirror Symmetrical Multiverse.

http://vixra.org/pdf/1103.0015v1.pdf

Very interesting read, Joe. Everyone is a 1 since we all have our own, unique realities. And since all of these uniquenesses exist on one planet, somehow we are still here to realize our own, unique realities. I have no idea what I just said. LOL.

Excellent!

Rock Paper scissors: you win!

Hi Joe, thanks for your essay.

At the beginning it was a lot of Google search.

But eventually I have found this: "Universe consists of three inseparable aspects of a single real element. Light, matter and space are aspects of human singular apprehensible reality."

That is similar in some aspect to my view that everything emerges out of the conformally flat spacetime so everything we perceive is an illusion, a region of spacetime but deformed in a specific way. Our perception (thanks to light waves mediation) gives us a possibility to create an image of that everything and we call it reality.

My simple and short essay would give you more details. http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1609

However your statement "the scientists have only succeeded in complicating the easiest of natural human comprehension to make, and made it naturally chaotically unobtainable" seems to be offending irrespective of the fact that for me personally the complexity level of modern science is too high to comprehend. It does not mean that the level is absolutely too high but maybe my abilities are not good enough. Think about it, please. Einstein said: "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler". And finally addressing mathematics: as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.

Joe, a good and humorous read! You bring the point home nicely.

One must distinguish between information, observation and representation. Bits are representation to store the masses of observations human kind has made. Real information is few and far in between

Hi Joe,

I am just doing a quick of the abstracts.

Yours is the first sane one I've encountered.

Don L.

I appreciate your humor but I appreciate your conclusion, "I have never really been interested in logic," a great deal more. It makes all of your baseless assumptions understandable! For instance, "But there is only one real Universe once and there is only one real or imagined event once." Prove it!

"All information is abstract codswallop that has nothing to do with reality [...] Mathematicians totally ignore the reality of once. Mathematicians persist in using the same numbers and the same functions and values over and over again, and they fail to appreciate just how illogical their methodology is. Unique reality is not a contrived result of an identical repeatable calculation, nor is it any sort of speculative scientific conundrum."

First let me say you have a very narrow view of information. In your paper you only pay tribute to information perceptible to human beings. I mean, if there is no information exchange between the sun and the earth, what keeps them in the relationship they have maintained for so long? And even constraining information to that perceptible to humans, it seems rather ironic to disregard the mathematical enterprise, an enterprise which made the apparatus you use to disregard, computers and the WWW, possible, does it not?

So, my dear sir, I could be wrong but your judgment seems to be in error; mathematicians dwell in the Eternal Now. Confusion approaches clarity as time approaches infinity. The wise man who says, "One can never step into the same river twice," is no wise man. I can step into any same river multiple times and all relative rivers at once simply by contemplating the absolute abstraction RIVER. RIVER is the grin without the cat; it can't be beheaded for although it subsumes all temporal existence it has no existence in time! The very key to the mystery of existence lies in abstraction; one abstracts until the very self disappears and all that's left is pure awareness - the grin without the cat. Mathematicians are not a Humpty Dumpty community, rather, they have a foot on each side of the looking glass where they definitively see, the mathematics is so much more than Jabberwockeeee. . .

And I'm not even a mathematician . . .