George,
I posted my response on your essay's page. Please check there.
Joe
George,
I posted my response on your essay's page. Please check there.
Joe
Dear Joe
Original approach, nicely written and pleasant to read. However, it does not resolve issues like clock synchronisation on satellites :). Your principle of one is actually the true statement by which I started (1=1) deriving principles of motion. Reading them you might recognize the underlying principle of infinite uniqueness, you write about, of elusive one, now and here, the dynamic space-time position in which all scalar operations are unchanged and reflected. The position where 1=1/1 (by any convention of writing, 1v=1s/1t), i.e. the dynamic position in which altered space, over the, for the same amount altered time measures unaltered speed of light, thus measuring linear flow of time and linear propagation of space (1=1n/1n).
Btw, I have toes as well, which are infinitely different from yours... but at the same time, I hope you'll agree with me, they are infinitely similar. I guess it make sense to search for the matrix of what makes toes - toes (yours or mine).
My essay is at the address
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1876
It would be nice to read your comment
best regards
Andrej
Jeo
Now its my turn to comment on you: every 'it' & 'bits' have single occurrences too!
Thanks
Dipak
Dipak,
You are correct. The real Universe is simple. One it, once, one bit, once.
Joe
Dear Joe,
I do agree with you that everything happens only once, although I derive this conclusion from KQID worldview that Existence including us, our God/s and our Multiverse happens only once every absolute digital time T ≤ 10^-1000 seconds. I do think that Information as bits are fiction but real. Fiction because we make it up, and it is real because as Landauer and experimentally proven that any deletion of bits produce heat or entropy. Thus, information is physical. I enjoyed reading your unconventional essay BITTERS and original creative idea. We are all the seekers of the truth, we shall discover it no matter where it is hiding, if necessary as usual we fictionalize it according to our own image as Protogoras's measurement. Please comment on my essay and rank it if you desire. Best wishes, Leo KoGuan
Your "only once" theory reminds me a bit of how chaos theorists tend to approach physics -- it reminds me a bit of Smolin's idea that physical laws merely arrive from repetitions of similar events. Good luck in the competition and thank you for reading my essay, I appreciate that you've given this a lot of thought and I will re-read again.
"Reality is always observable, objective and obvious, once" -- strikes me--is this how you resolve the measurement problem?
Cheers and good luck!
Jennifer
Dear Joe,
I liked your essay, very interesting.
I will have to read your essay again and post further comments about it. You said that reality is always observable, objective and obvious,once. I am not sure what to think about this but you did produce a nice article.
Beat of luck,
Salvish
Salvish,
Thank you for reading my essay and for your very gracious comment.
Joe
Hello Joe
How do you know your toe is not just part of a dream, or that you are caught in The Matrix with a digital toe? As such, the essay lacks foundation.
Stephen Anastasi
Stephen Anastasi
Reality does not need a foundation. Abstraction always need an abstract foundation. I know my toe is real and not a part of a dream because when I stub it against something solid, it hurts. I know it cannot be in a matrix because a matrix cannot replicate uniqueness. It can only obey a program.
Reality cannot be programmed.
Thank you for reading my essay and for leaving a comment.
Joe
Dear Joe, you have a unique style, only happened once. I believe I do have a mechanism that shows how our Existence happens once, never repeat itself. I know that you are busy with other things so if I may I bring it up to your attention that cited you with my comment to our kind and erudite fellow contestant Jonathan, and I wrote to him: "... We are living inside the long dead great man's thought as Lord Keynes pointed out. These among others are Keynes' idea that "demands create supplies" economic system that Bernanke, Obama, Abe and Wen Jiabao applied successfully in their resoective countries. But the greatest is Aristotle's Identity A = A. I myself wrote based on this premise with my KQID Ouroboros Equations of Existence: Ξ00☷ = ψτ(iLx,y,z, Lm) = KbΘln2 = hf = pc + mc^2 = p^2/2m + U(iLx,y,z) = 4πGρ- Kqid(ΑΘ-ΘS)gμν = (8πG/c^4)Tμν - Kqid(ΑΘ-ΘS)gμν = Τμν = E = A + S ⊆ T. I do said that A = A with so many equals signs (=) but if you look carefully I also said that A emerges out of 00 and furthermore the Existence like A=A is subset of or equal to absolute digital time T ≤ 10^-1000seconds that bags all Minkowski's events inside it and jump to the next Tn+1 and Tn+2 and so on following Feynman's sum over histories. Aristotle tried to demolish the sophist Protagoras out of the picture that everything is subject to man's measurement that miraculously reemerged in a new form as the Bohr's Copenhagen interpretation that is not surprisingly similar to Fu Xi's Yin-Yang Philosophy (Bohr's Yin-Yang logo) that everything is change or as Heraclitus put it " everything is in flux". Until Quantum Mechanics, we cannot build science out of A≠A, that A can be B or C or anything in quantum superposition. A = A is a fiction but real that is useful to science and progress for mankind. I am for it 100% however, it does not mean that it is the truth, the truth is as JOE FISHER put it: everything happens once, unique and it is not repeatable. This is because in order for Existence to exist it has to forever running away from its eternal nemesis Non-existence. In KQID, this Existence escapes barely as we must expect by T-step ≤ 10^-1000seconds. Due to space limitation I excluded one of the major explaination:1c. Moreover, the conscious and intelligent infinite being with unlimited storage capacity is behinds Existence. This infinite being is Planck's "matrix of all matter" and it is evolving at T ≤ 10^-1000 s. This means each T-moment, a unique Qbit emerges. Anything derived from this unique Qbit is necessarily unique. Then next T-moment, a new evolved Qbit reemerges. Similarly, all things derived from or emerged out of this new unique Qbit iare necessarily unique. As Kongzi and Heraclitus said that we can only step into a river once. Our Multiverse is flowing every absolute digital time T-step and each step is a unique Multiverse. We step into our Multiverse once every T-time present moment. In other words, in one second our Ancestor FAPAMA Qbit has evolved at least 10^1000th generations and so do we, and at least 10^1000 all things are different from before and after. Thus, our block Multiverse is evolving at once every T-step ≤ 10^-1000 s. (Diagram 5) Therefore, All information is conserved or no new qbit is added within the T-moment and all matters are derived from this Qbit at Tn+x moment. During each T-moment, time is symmetry, thus it is conserved and reversible within this T-moment. One can go back in time backward and forward according to Law of nature. In this process, this infinite conscious and intelligent mind reunifies, reboots, reenergizes, retranslates, retransforms, renews and refreshes Existence. It collapse time-past-present-future into the NOW(00). Hence, KQID answers the most puzzling phenomena that is why the computer-like Multiverse does not crash like normal computers usually do. It is because the Qbit automatically maintains and reboots itself per T-moment ≤ 10^-1000s. That is why KQID concepts of the absolute digital time T is necessarily the fundamental feature of Existence, and how Existence escapes its fate of extinction from the ever powerful entropic dark forces and exists forever and ever in the light." Please let me know what you think and suggestion. Please comment and rate my essay if you have time. Thanks, Leo KoGuan
Hi Joe,
I have downloaded your essay, and I hope to get to it soon. Thanks for the kind comments on my page.
Jonathan
Hi Joe,
I still have not gotten to your essay, but your comments on my page prompt me to say more here. I acknowledge and agree with your uniqueness principle, insofar as we are talking about life in the world made of protons, neutrons, and electrons - the same basic stuff we are made of. While we may call other kinds exotic matter, to some extent 'normal' fermionic matter is more 'exotic' when considering the whole of the universe, as Physics now understands it.
But uniqueness and oneness are not the only archetypes that matter. I would say that uniqueness is absolutely necessary, and it is of course uniquely powerful among all the archetypes of form, but it does not tell the whole story - maybe something important that is often overlooked, but not everything. If we allow that in addition to uniqueness, completeness, nothingness, and enoughness or sufficiency are preserved, we can build a conceptual hierarchy to hold the fundamental forces of Physics. See my essay, from an earlier contest
In relation to this contest; it is especially important to see the role of a fifth quality or archetype which we can call agreement or equality, because this property is what maps information to form, or vice versa. I'm just observing that your main point is sort of like saying we can learn everything about Physics by studying Gravitation. Now if we really deeply understood Gravity, a lot of Physics we don't understand might fall into place, but studying the other forces is hardly a waste of time.
That's all for now, but I will comment once I get to read your essay.
All the Best,
Jonathan
Dear Joe. Hello, and apologies if this does not apply to you. I have read and rated your essay and about 50 others. If you have not read, or did not rate my essay The Cloud of Unknowing please consider doing so. With best wishes.
Vladimir
Vladimir,
I left a comment on your essay at on May 23, 2013 at 14:56 GMT. The comment read: "This is an interesting essay to read. I found the frank admission in the "Absolute Reality and Relative Observers" segment that abstract scientific information is only glorified unrealistic guesswork truly refreshing. As I have pointed out in my essay BITTERS, the Universe can only deal in absolutes. One (1) real Universe can only be eternally occurring in one real here and now while perpetually traveling at one real "speed" of light through one real infinite dimension once. One is the absolute of everything. (1) is the absolute of number. Real is the absolute of being. Universe is the absolute of energy. Eternal is the absolute of duration. Occurring is the absolute of action. Here and now are absolutes of location and time. Perpetual is the absolute of ever. Traveling is the absolute of conveyance method. Light is the absolute of speed. Infinite dimension is the absolute of distance and once is the absolute of history.
An abstract human brain may have abstractly evolved over abstract millions of abstractly counted years from abstract primitive cells made of abstract molecules that were abstractly identical to those making up the rest of the abstract universe, my real unique brain only knows unique once. If I only know unique once, you can only know unique once. Unique cannot evolve. Unique cannot be primitive or fundamental or teachable or purchasable. Unique can only ever be unique once.
I did rate your essay at that time.
Joe
Jonathan,
Thank you for your extensive comment. I think we must distinguish here the difference between natural and humanly fabricated material. One real unique Universe can only do one real thing, once. There is no such real thing as basic, or fundamental condition. Just because man can make particles, it does not follow that everything must be made out of particles. The only things that are made out of particles are particles. It would be very odd if certain mental particles only freely assembled in the brains of physicists in order for them to be able to build technology that could produce particles. I do not see how physicists could pretend to know more about reality than a piece of lettuce or a duck-billed platypus could.
Joe
Hello Joe,
I have rated you well already so this does not really apply to you. But I know I can count on you to give your answers to 4 bitter and unique questions...
As the contest in Wheeler's honor draws to a close, leaving for the moment considerations of rating and prize money, and knowing we cannot all agree on whether 'it' comes from 'bit' or otherwise or even what 'it' and 'bit' mean, and as we may not be able to read all essays, though we should try, I pose the following 4 simple questions and will rate you accordingly before July 31 when I will be revisiting your blog.
"If you wake up one morning and dip your hand in your pocket and 'detect' a million dollars, then on your way back from work, you dip your hand again and find that there is nothing there...
1) Have you 'elicited' an information in the latter case?
2) If you did not 'participate' by putting your 'detector' hand in your pocket, can you 'elicit' information?
3) If the information is provided by the presence of the crisp notes ('its') you found in your pocket, can the absence of the notes, being an 'immaterial source' convey information?
Finally, leaving for the moment what the terms mean and whether or not they can be discretely expressed in the way spin information is discretely expressed, e.g. by electrons
4) Can the existence/non-existence of an 'it' be a binary choice, representable by 0 and 1?"
Answers can be in binary form for brevity, i.e. YES = 1, NO = 0, e.g. 0-1-0-1.
Best regards,
Since I know you are busy, repost my answer to you also on your thread here.
Dear Joe,
I tried to relate KQID with your idea that everything happens once. At the bottom, everything is simple. We all know that even a simple living system like an amoeba or even our own cell is a complex piece of work that has evolved for billions of years on earth and if KQID is correct that it has evolved for trillions trillions years in our Multiverse. However, the mechanism of creating and distributing of this complex phenomena is simple at the bottom. It is based on what I defined as the Wang Yangming one bit of Giving first and Taking later as the unity of knowledge and action. I only say that KQID agrees with your idea that everything happens only once every absolute digital time T T≤10^-1000seconds. Each T contains all Minkowski events in our Multiverse. In analogy, one may compare it with our heart beat, each our heart beat is unique and only happens once for each beat. The beat itself is repeated if not this unit idea as the living dies. Because without exchanges of bits/ideas taking in the "good" fresh nutrient bits and getting rid of the "bad" waste bits, this living system dies. However, while alive this human lives beat by beat of his heart. Each beat is unique. Each embodies the whole human being with complex bits/atoms arrangements that combines the new and old bits. It is also like our breathing of air, each breath is unique and each breath creates and distribute a unique human being with difference bits arrangement that only happens once every breath. each breath renews and resynchronizes our living system. Each breath is the Giving first and Taking later complex activities. The mechanism of Giving and Taking is simple but the actual activities of Giving and Taking are complex. The process is simple but the outcome in the living is complex. We have known that complexities derived from simplicity.
Joe, you are not "a decrepit old realist" but you are a great outside of the box thinker. You are a Greek Cynic and a great human being. It is my honor to converse with you. I hope my explanation above satisfies your realist self. I would like to think myself as a realistic dreamer. I believe you are a realistic dreamer because you are in this forum to enlighten all of us. Good work and good fight of ideas. I share your good fight. May you do well in this contest of ideas.
Best wishes,
Leo KoGuan
Dear Akinbo,
I found your questions to Joe are very intriguing, I will wait also for his answers. You always ask deep questions. I will find your essay and read it. Thanks.
Best wishes,
Leo KoGuan
Akinbo and Professor KoGuan,
As I have tried to explain in my essay, one real Universe can only do one unique thing, once.
Although you claim that your four questions are simple, they are not for only reality is simple. Your four abstract questions are unreal, therefore, they are complex. I think that you meant that the yes/no answers to your questions would be simple. Here again, if the question is complex, even a yes or no answer is not going to unravel the complexity, it will only lead to further questions.
Each time one dips one's real hand into one's real pocket, one will either detect some real thing that is in there, or one will find that one's pocket is empty. It is impossible to elicit information for all information is abstract. Therefore, my answer to question 1 is No.
Question 2 No. Not because it seems obvious that information can only be detected if a detection device is employed, only unique is real and it is by its singular nature, undetectable by any means. Question 3 is also a No for the presence or absence of anything at any time is inevitable, not informational.
The answer to question 4 is 0 (No) Reality has nothing to do with binary codes.
Is the real Universe simple? Yes.
Is the abstract universe simple? No.
Is unique, once simple? Yes.
Is binary 0 1 simple? No.
Joe