Anton

Fascinating essay and ideas, original and obviously well developed. The heavy lacing of maths didn't help the flow but I can see like me that you're a practical man who values evidence.

I did find a slightly analogous link with my Huygens spherelets expanding at c so I think I could follow your conceptions, but never easy with something so original.

Very well done for all the thought and work, and worth a good score from me for sure. I shall keep my eye open for more on informatons. I wonder what you may make of mine which is slightly similarly 'outlying' and original, at once outside the box but more empirically based ..and very ambitious! Do give me your views.

Very best of luck.

Peter

    Peter,

    Thanks for your positive comments on my essay.

    As stated in the abstract, the intention of "the theory of informatons" is to explain the GEM-description of gravitation. GEM identifies the gravitational field as a composite vector field that mediates in the gravitational interactions between (whether or not moving) particles. That field - a purely mathematical construction - is defined by four relations (the GEM equations) that are analogue to Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic field.

    To justify the hypothesis that g-information (information carried by informatons) is the substance of gravitational fields - that a gravitational field is a cloud of g-information - it is necessary that we can deduce the GEM equations from the dynamics of the informatons and that we can show that the gravitational force is an effect of the interactions between the masses and the cloud of g-information in which these are "immersed". It is obvious that this is impossible to realize without a lot of mathematics. In the essay you find an introduction, the details are elaborated in ref 6.

    I will go through your essay and give you my views.

    Very best luck,

    Antoine

    Dear Antoine,

    Thanks for your comments on my essay and shortly I am going to post my comments on your essay in your thread and rate your essay accordingly.

    Best wishes,

    Sreenath

    Dear eaAntoine Acke,

    In your thought provoking essay you have demonstrated in simple terms the sort of relationship existing between the gravitational field and the electro-magnetic field. For this you have invented the concept of "informaton". Informatons carry the information of the gravitational field. It is interesting to note that you have made informatons more basic to "gravitons" and that gravitons are just an aspect of informatons emitted by an oscillating point mass which transport a packet of energy: they appear as gravitons. The concept of a cloud carrying informatons is quite imaginative. You have based your theory not only on simple original concepts but also have used simple mathematics to derive the sort of relationship existing between both gravitational and the electro-magnetic fields. The notion of a point charge carrying an electro-magnetic field and also at the same time emitting gravitational field or vice versa is simply amazing. If you have time, please, go through my previous year's fqxi essay contest (2012) paper, in which I have tried to connect both fields on the basis of QG theory but on entirely different concepts and I want to have your reaction to that. I am also currently working on the mathematical aspects of that theory and if you are interested, please, inform me to give a consistent mathematical formulation to that.

    For your innovative essay I have given an excellent rate.

    Best of luck,

    Sreenath

      Dear Sreenath,

      Thanks for your positive comments.

      The "theory of informatons" allows to explain the gravitational (ref 6) and the electromagnetic field (ref 7) as the macroscopic manifestation of what I call "informatons", and to understand the gravitational and the electromagnetic interactions as the reaction of an object on the disturbance of its own cloud of informatons (its field) by the flux of informatons emitted by other objects. One can say that the relation of the "theory of informatons" to "the theory of fields" is similar to that of the "kinetic theory of gases" to the "ideal-gas law": the informatons play the role that is played by the molecules.

      The identification of a photon (and a graviton) with an informaton carrying a quantum of energy is developed in §6 of ref 7 and allows us to understand the strange behaviour of light as described by QED.

      I will with pleasure go through your essay of 2012 and I am interested in your further work.

      Best of luck,

      Antoine.

      Hi Antoine,

      Thank you for attention to my work and for offering your essay. I LIKE IT and I have download it. Soon I will tell you some more certainly. By the way we are colleagues!

      Best wishes,

      George

      Dear Antione,

      Apologies - I thought I'd already commented. I've been having problems on my device with comments not posting at first try (or sometimes posting twice).

      I like you essay very much, as anything that seeks to unify the forces of nature is a noble quest, which I find very interesting.

      I too have a theory which partly unifies the four forces and resolves the three paradoxes of cosmogony, but in my case based on geometry; yet it too states that information must always travel at c.

      I like the concept of informatons too - great name!

      If you get chance please take a look at my essay, although very different from yours, you may find it of some interest, perhaps it might offer application to your work or vice-versa.

      Best wishes,

      Antony

        Dear Antony,

        Thanks for the expressions of appreciation for my ideas. You can find a lot of complementary comment on my theory on the topic: Gravity and the Nature of Information" by Edwin Eugene Klingman (Post July 28).

        I will take a look at your essay and give my comments.

        Best wishes,

        Antoine.

        Hello Antoine,

        A very interesting essay with radical ideas that respond to the main question of the contest "The nature of the information?", Original substantiation of the conception and original conclusions.

        Constructive ways to the truth may be different. One of them said Alexander Zenkin in the article "Science counterrevolution in mathematics":

        «The truth should be drawn with the help of the cognitive computer visualization technology and should be presented to" an unlimited circle "of spectators in the form of color-musical cognitive images of its immanent essence.»

        http://www.ccas.ru/alexzen/papers/ng-02/contr_rev.htm

        In the russian version of a article: «The truth should be drawn and should be presented to" an unlimited circle "of spectators.»

        Do you agree with Alexander Zenkin?

        Please look also my essay and essay FQXi 2012 related to the ontological justification of "Absolute generating structure"

        http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1796

        http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1362

        Best regards,

        Vladimir

          Hello Vladimir,

          Thanks for your positive comments on my essay. I will think about the words of Alexander Zenkin, go through your essay and post my comments on your forum.

          Best regards,

          Antoine.

          Thanks for the link Antoine!

          Best wishes,

          Antony

          Dear Antoine,

          I liked Edwin's essay too! Good taste. Thanks too for the comments over on my thread!

          Best wishes & pleased to "meet" you,

          Antony

          Hi Antoine,

          I have read and high rated your essay on 29 jul (see my above post) Meantime I have ask your comment to my work. Maybe you decided that it is out from your interest as per as it is critical review first. But let me see that from hard critics only is possible to find right way and move to solutions of ,,unsolvable,, problems. Your approach to gravity problem in my view is right since it is a kind of electromagnetic interaction. But there are some important nuances as well, the examination of which demands a good time.

          If you wish then we can discuss this matter in our more free time (after of FQXi battle!)

          Now I just hope get your final conclusion about my work (Better visit my forum)

          Good luck in contest,

          George

            Hello George,

            I think your post must be the result of a misunderstanding. I have read your work, expressed my appreciation (see your forum) and gave it a high rate on Jul 29 still before you replied. (As an effect of your last post,I tried to rate it today but I got the message: "You rated this essay on Jul 29").

            It would be fine to discuss the problematic of gravity and electromagnetism in quiter times.

            I wish you too good luck in the contest,

            Antoine.

            Hi Antoine,

            I have do as I say (see in 29 post on captal letters) and I see how your positon changed. But all of this are small things actualy and we can just trust and respect each to other. So, never mind on this matter and be well!

            Good wishes,

            George

            Dear Antoine,

            We are at the end of this essay contest.

            In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

            Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

            eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

            And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

            Good luck to the winners,

            And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

            Amazigh H.

            I rated your essay.

            Please visit My essay.

              Antoine - I'm not sure I am convinced by what you've come up with, but I gave you a decent score based on originality. I am looking forward to seeing you develop this theory.

              Kind regards, Paul

                Dear Amazigh H,

                Thank for your interest in my essay. I will soon comment yours on your forum and rate it.

                Greetings,

                Antoine.

                Dear Paul,

                Thanks for commenting and rating my essay. I will do the same with yours.

                My theory is further developed in ref 6 and in ref 7 where I explain the gravitational and the electromagnetic phenomena and where I mathematically deduce the laws of gravito-electromagnetism and of electromagnetism from the dynamics of the informatons.

                Kind regards,

                Antoine.

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