Essay Abstract

IT in a double magnitude, as a material reality component or a hidden all inclusive answer to our questions in the interaction with BITs. BITs as discernible difference from equality. BITs as information which origin is not restricted to common tangible domain. Hidden information from momentum space topology represent the root knowledge for our universe space-time. The conversion or metamorphosis of this edge physical BITs to common physical ITs proceed by spontaneous symmetry break or coherent information emergence. Top-down causation assemble the invisible links, which complete the miraculous origins of order.

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private, graduate physics, interests : quantum physics, philosophy, astrophysics, biophysics.

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Dear David,

Thank you for nice paper. Your concept"IT in a double magnitude, as a material reality component or a hidden all inclusive answer to our questions in the interaction with BITs." So Bits are dependent on IT some how?

So you are saying just from information matter can be produced from nothing...

and,

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.

I failed mainly because I worked against the main stream. The main stream community people want magic from science instead of realty especially in the subject of cosmology. We all know well that cosmology is a subject where speculations rule.

Hope to get your comments even directly to my mail ID also. . . .

Best

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- -Material objects are more fundamental- - is being proposed in this paper; It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material. . . Similarly creation of matter from empty space as required in Steady State theory or in Bigbang is another such problem in the Cosmological counterpart. . . . In this paper we will see about CMB, how it is generated from stars and Galaxies around us. And here we show that NO Microwave background radiation was detected till now after excluding radiation from Stars and Galaxies. . . .

Some complements from FQXi community. . . . .

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Anton Lorenz Vrba wrote on May. 4, 2013 @ 13:43 GMT

....... I do love your last two sentences - that is why I am coming back.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 6, 2013 @ 09:24 GMT

. . . . We should use our minds to down to earth realistic thinking. There is no point in wasting our brains in total imagination which are never realities. It is something like showing, mixing of cartoon characters with normal people in movies or people entering into Game-space in virtual reality games or Firing antimatter into a black hole!!!. It is sheer a madness of such concepts going on in many fields like science, mathematics, computer IT etc. . . .

B.

Francis V wrote on May. 11, 2013 @ 02:05 GMT

Well-presented argument about the absence of any explosion for a relic frequency to occur and the detail on collection of temperature data......

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Robert Bennett wrote on May. 14, 2013 @ 18:26 GMT

"Material objects are more fundamental"..... in other words "IT from Bit" is true.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 14, 2013 @ 22:53 GMT

1. It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material.

2. John Wheeler did not produce material from information.

3. Information describes material properties. But a mere description of material properties does not produce material.

4. There are Gods, Wizards, and Magicians, allegedly produced material from nowhere. But will that be a scientific experiment?

D

Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 16:22 GMT

It from bit - where are bit come from?

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jun. 17, 2013 @ 06:10 GMT

....And your question is like asking, -- which is first? Egg or Hen?-- in other words Matter is first or Information is first? Is that so? In reality there is no way that Matter comes from information.

Matter is another form of Energy. Matter cannot be created from nothing. Any type of vacuum cannot produce matter. Matter is another form of energy. Energy is having many forms: Mechanical, Electrical, Heat, Magnetic and so on..

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Antony Ryan wrote on Jun. 23, 2013 @ 22:08 GMT

.....Either way your abstract argument based empirical evidence is strong given that "a mere description of material properties does not produce material". While of course materials do give information.

I think you deserve a place in the final based on this alone. Concise - simple - but undeniable.

    8 days later

    Dear S.N.P.

    Information or bits are the virtual chickens which are always there (in nature). They are the topology - the map. Our today's view of them are the not erasable (no hidden) quantum informations. ITs are the eggs which emerge (become materialized) in the presence of energy. The environmental conditions decide which eggs will produce the next generation of chickens (evolution of topology) .... this is the all inclusive IT - the interaction of virtual bits (chickens) and materialized its (eggs).

    I will go all the essays through, also yours

    Thanks for your question

    David

    Dear Hoang,

    realy there seems to be no such instantly present information, but remind Aspect's measurement /EPR paradox/. Space-time quantum world seems to be a distorted mirror of nature (see the last year essay from G.M. D'Ariano).

    Signal is a energetical/material version of information. But there are informations in nature free of energy, e.g. topology of momentum space vacuum (G. Volovik), measured near zero Kelvin. Quantum theory seems to be an information theory of space-time.

    David

    Dear David,

    Your essay is interesting and stated question is also very justified - What is ,,It -Bit,,? Of course, my dear, we are just obligate to define the meaning of subjects of examination before starting the battle! A lot of people just not ques to ask himself - what about we are talking actually. I don't want to continue more because I am quickly coming creasy with such simple misunderstands. I am very inclined to rate your essay as high for this, just it will be desirable for my to listening your brief impression/opinion on my work (my email there) ESSAY

    Best Wishes,

    George

      David,

      Very interesting essay and ideas. I found some parts a little confusing but I suspect that was only due to incomplete language familiarity. I found many parts very coherent and well considered, but other parts apparently less so. To first focus on areas of strong agreement I particularly pick out;

      "The coherent quantum information escapes as a coherent domain"

      " The natural blueprint is the momentum space topology, which is not static but dynamical and evolving as a result of influencing background information"

      "Relativity is only local in region with not changing energy-momentum density."

      "Inflation phase of the early universe was artificially created...", and... (we live in); "...a dynamical universe, where gravity is secondary to topology."

      "Dark matter in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Even our common sense is capable to accept that a spinning and twisting system is energetically more copious than the same system at rest."

      On the EPR case, I analyse this in detail in my essay, consistent with the McHarris and Watson essays. Did you know that Alain Aspect found a consistent 'orbital asymmetry' in his results, leading him to discard the vast majority as he could find no theory to explain it? This was not referred in his first paper but was mentioned in his French language paper a year later. I've found that 'hidden' data massively important, and precluding the need for FTL communication. I hope you'll read my essay and give it the critical eye of one who sympathises with at least one model of FTL. This is the best falsification possible. See the extended explanation in the discussions.

      Well done for your essay. I think your score should be rather higher and if I've understood your positions correctly will be happy to help it up. Best of luck, and look forward to your views on mine if you can find the time.

      Peter

      Hello David,

      Nice essay, but I disagree with your opinion on Olaf's blog that Bit from It is a road to hell. I describe a road in my essay. Take a look and rate if you think it can lead to heaven. Meanwhile...

      As the contest in Wheeler's honor draws to a close, leaving for the moment considerations of rating and prize money, and knowing we cannot all agree on whether 'it' comes from 'bit' or otherwise or even what 'it' and 'bit' mean, and as we may not be able to read all essays, though we should try, I pose the following 4 simple questions and will rate you accordingly before July 31 when I will be revisiting your blog.

      "If you wake up one morning and dip your hand in your pocket and 'detect' a million dollars, then on your way back from work, you dip your hand again and find that there is nothing there...

      1) Have you 'elicited' an information in the latter case?

      2) If you did not 'participate' by putting your 'detector' hand in your pocket, can you 'elicit' information?

      3) If the information is provided by the presence of the crisp notes ('its') you found in your pocket, can the absence of the notes, being an 'immaterial source' convey information?

      Finally, leaving for the moment what the terms mean and whether or not they can be discretely expressed in the way spin information is discretely expressed, e.g. by electrons

      4) Can the existence/non-existence of an 'it' be a binary choice, representable by 0 and 1?"

      Answers can be in binary form for brevity, i.e. YES = 1, NO = 0, e.g. 0-1-0-1.

      Best regards,

      Akinbo

        Hi Akinbo,

        the level of dollars, electrons and Yes/No is not fundamental, simply because there is no conservation od information on this level (and you are faced with miracles every moment).

        1, Binary is not natural, more natural is quantum quaternary

        2, Information is present without the nees to be elicited, no detector is needed to create information, detector creates signal

        3, Crisp notes is a material signal, the absence of is also a material signal

        4, Existence/non-existence of a material IT is a binary choice.

        Best regards,

        David

        6 days later

        Hi David,

        I found your essay truly original, imaginative, and insightful. Although you have a different approach to the emergence of something from nothing than I do, I found your essay inspiring and most worthy of merit.

        Best of luck to you in the competition.

        Regards,

        Manuel

        Mr. Fisher,

        there are only two roots which I follow

        A, Don't believe

        B, Follow the observations

        It's not my way to present any mystification. Follow the references in my essay. I am ready to extend them. Only what we measure is crucial. How to interpret the measurements is an other story. But don't forget the everyday unexplained observations !

        If you think, that what I write is unbelievable, I agree, but this is how nature can act, without miracles. You can also read the essay from Mauro D'Ariano of this contest, to open insight, what I follow.

        David

        PS: I don't believe in miracles, distinctly I rate the community - not only here - is a community of believers ...

          David,

          I wish to withdraw my previous comment for it was uncalled for and I do apologize to you for making it.

          In my essay BITTERS, I emphasize the observable fact that everything in the real Universe is unique, once. Each real snowflake is unique, once, which means that each real molecule of each real snowflake must also be unique, once. It cannot simply be snowflakes; everything in the real Universe can only ever be unique, once.

          This presents something of a scientific problem in that no measurement of anything unique, once, can be taken for it only happens once. No experiment to detect unique, once, can ever be devised.

          Like a true scientist, you wrote an essay about belief. When judged in that regard, it is a fine essay.

          I hope you do well in the competition,

          Joe

          Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

          If I may, I'd like to express some of my newer conclusions - by themselves, so to speak, and independently of the logic that justifies them; the logic is, of course, outlined in my essay.

          I now see the Cosmos as founded upon positive-negative charges: It is a binary structure and process that acquires its most elemental dimensional definition with the appearance of Hydrogen - one proton, one electron.

          There is no other interaction so fundamental and all-pervasive as this binary phenomenon: Its continuance produces our elements - which are the array of all possible inorganic variants.

          Once there exists a great enough correlation between protons and electrons - that is, once there are a great many Hydrogen atoms, and a great many other types of atoms as well - the continuing Cosmic binary process arranges them all into a new platform: Life.

          This phenomenon is quite simply inherent to a Cosmos that has reached a certain volume of particles; and like the Cosmos from which it evolves, life behaves as a binary process.

          Life therefore evolves not only by the chance events of natural selection, but also by the chance interactions of its underlying binary elements.

          This means that ultimately, DNA behaves as does the atom - each is a particle defined by, and interacting within, its distinct Vortex - or 'platform'.

          However, as the cosmic system expands, simple sensory activity is transformed into a third platform, one that is correlated with the Organic and Inorganic phenomena already in existence: This is the Sensory-Cognitive platform.

          Most significantly, the development of Sensory-Cognition into a distinct platform, or Vortex, is the event that is responsible for creating (on Earth) the Human Species - in whom the mind has acquired the dexterity to focus upon itself.

          Humans affect, and are affected by, the binary field of Sensory-Cognition: We can ask specific questions and enunciate specific answers - and we can also step back and contextualize our conclusions: That is to say, we can move beyond the specific, and create what might be termed 'Unified Binary Fields' - in the same way that the forces acting upon the Cosmos, and holding the whole structure together, simultaneously act upon its individual particles, giving them their motion and structure.

          The mind mimics the Cosmos - or more exactly, it is correlated with it.

          Thus, it transpires that the role of chance decreases with evolution, because this dual activity (by which we 'particularize' binary elements, while also unifying them into fields) clearly increases our control over the foundational binary process itself.

          This in turn signifies that we are evolving, as life in general has always done, towards a new interaction with the Cosmos.

          Clearly, the Cosmos is participatory to a far greater degree than Wheeler imagined - with the evolution of the observer continuously re-defining the system.

          You might recall the logic by which these conclusions were originally reached in my essay, and the more detailed structure that I also outline there. These elements still hold; the details stated here simply put the paradigm into a sharper focus, I believe.

          With many thanks and best wishes,

          John

          jselye@gmail.com

          Dear David,

          You have written your essay in original style and accordingly treated the relationship between It and Bit. Your theme behind your article may be summarized in your own words as "The all-inclusive IT equals the web of BITs, and the mITs represent the unity of material physical ITs and massless virtual BITs in the presence of energy. We have to distinguish information and signal. Information is made from BITs, signal from ITs. Signals have limited speed of propagation, information is instantly present." You have given importance to information and is according to you, "Information is primary, matter secondary. mITs are in the unity with the hidden BITs. One can think of BITs as of top level or most bottom level."

          Very well coordinated article. So it deserves excellent rating. Please, go through my essay and post your comments on it in my thread.

          Best of luck,

          Sreenath