A Crazy It From A Misleading Bit: How A Zero-Referenced Fundamental Theorem of Calculus Loses Information And May Be Misleading Mathematical Physics by J P Baugher

Mr. Baugher,

I thought your essay was extremely well written. I was a little apprehensive because it started with an impossible abstract perfect diamond, however, your theorizing about the consequence of information waves seemed sound enough to me.

I do hope that you do not think me impertinent. I am a crusty old realist and as I have carefully explained in my essay BITTERS, everything in the real Universe is unique, once.

As you know, each snowflake is unique, once, and that means that each real molecule of each real snowflake must be unique, once. The whole real Universe is unique, once.

Which brings me to the consideration of your essay's graphics. They are not unique. They are computer generated perfect squares and perfect circle and perfect columns of perfect number and alphabetic symbols, and while they are pretty to look at, they are unusual, unrealistic, and unnecessary for explaining reality.

I wish you well in the competition,

Joe

Dear Dr Baugher,

I found your essay very interesting. I like the use of area calculus and Figure 18, the graphical analogy of difference between "attraction" and "reduced repulsion" was excellent. It reminds me of my simplex based theory that partly unifies the four forces of nature and resolves the three paradoxes of cosmogony, with regard to my attraction/repulsion approach.

I think your essay oozes enthusiasm for our chances to find answers to what the remaining 96% of Universe.

If you get chance please take a look at my essay, which isn't my unification theory, but looks at information exchange.

Best wishes,

Antony

Dear Jeff,

You are correct,

I am sorry in the delay in replying you. I did not check the replies. FQXi should have issued a notification that you have replied....

I think we form a picture of anything in our mind, and keep them in our memories. We communicate about that picture to others, which we call information. When we die we loose all these pictures and memories.

Now in this context, can we create material from information...?

You can discuss with me later after this contest closes also.

Best

=snp

snp.gupta@gmail.com

Dear All

Let me go one more round with Richard Feynman.

In the Character of Physical Law, he talked about the two-slit experiment like this "I will summarize, then, by saying that electrons arrive in lumps, like particles, but the probability of arrival of these lumps is determined as the intensity of waves would be. It is this sense that the electron behaves sometimes like a particle and sometimes like a wave. It behaves in two different ways at the same time.

Further on, he advises the readers "Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it. 'But how can it be like that?' because you will get 'down the drain', into a blind alley from which nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can be like that."

Did he says anything about Wheeler's "It from Bit" other than what he said above?

Than Tin

Dear Jeff,

Its really a good essay, and you have stated rightly that our present range of vision is comprise up to 4% only and 96% is remain unexplored: as per present astro-physical estimates.

That is why in my essay I use the term to express further broader aspect of nature "digital limitation of digitized observers like us".

Thanks for your your presentation.

Regards

Dipak

Dear Jeff,

Its really a good essay, and you have stated rightly that our present range of vision is comprise up to 4% only and 96% is remain unexplored: as per present astro-physical estimates.

That is why in my essay I use the term to express further broader aspect of nature "digital limitation of digitized observers like us".

Thanks for your presentation.

Regards

Dipak

. So you can produce matter from your thinking or from information description of that matter. . . . ?

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.

I failed mainly because I worked against the main stream. The main stream community people want magic from science instead of realty especially in the subject of cosmology. We all know well that cosmology is a subject where speculations rule.

Hope to get your comments even directly to my mail ID also. . . .

Best

=snp

snp.gupta@gmail.com

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.com/

Pdf download:

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/essay-download/1607/__details/Gupta_Vak_FQXi_TABLE_REF_Fi.pdf

Part of abstract:

- -Material objects are more fundamental- - is being proposed in this paper; It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material. . . Similarly creation of matter from empty space as required in Steady State theory or in Bigbang is another such problem in the Cosmological counterpart. . . . In this paper we will see about CMB, how it is generated from stars and Galaxies around us. And here we show that NO Microwave background radiation was detected till now after excluding radiation from Stars and Galaxies. . . .

Some complements from FQXi community. . . . .

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Anton Lorenz Vrba wrote on May. 4, 2013 @ 13:43 GMT

....... I do love your last two sentences - that is why I am coming back.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 6, 2013 @ 09:24 GMT

. . . . We should use our minds to down to earth realistic thinking. There is no point in wasting our brains in total imagination which are never realities. It is something like showing, mixing of cartoon characters with normal people in movies or people entering into Game-space in virtual reality games or Firing antimatter into a black hole!!!. It is sheer a madness of such concepts going on in many fields like science, mathematics, computer IT etc. . . .

B.

Francis V wrote on May. 11, 2013 @ 02:05 GMT

Well-presented argument about the absence of any explosion for a relic frequency to occur and the detail on collection of temperature data......

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Robert Bennett wrote on May. 14, 2013 @ 18:26 GMT

"Material objects are more fundamental"..... in other words "IT from Bit" is true.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 14, 2013 @ 22:53 GMT

1. It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material.

2. John Wheeler did not produce material from information.

3. Information describes material properties. But a mere description of material properties does not produce material.

4. There are Gods, Wizards, and Magicians, allegedly produced material from nowhere. But will that be a scientific experiment?

D

Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 16:22 GMT

It from bit - where are bit come from?

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jun. 17, 2013 @ 06:10 GMT

....And your question is like asking, -- which is first? Egg or Hen?-- in other words Matter is first or Information is first? Is that so? In reality there is no way that Matter comes from information.

Matter is another form of Energy. Matter cannot be created from nothing. Any type of vacuum cannot produce matter. Matter is another form of energy. Energy is having many forms: Mechanical, Electrical, Heat, Magnetic and so on..

E

Antony Ryan wrote on Jun. 23, 2013 @ 22:08 GMT

.....Either way your abstract argument based empirical evidence is strong given that "a mere description of material properties does not produce material". While of course materials do give information.

I think you deserve a place in the final based on this alone. Concise - simple - but undeniable.

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Please try Dynamic Universe Model with some numerical values, give initial values of velocities, take gravitation into consideration( because you can not experiment in ISOLATION). complete your numerical experiment.

later try changing values of masses and initial values of velocities....

Calculate with different setups and compare your results, if you have done a physical experiment.

I sincerely feel it is better to do experiment physically, or numerically instead of breaking your head on just logic. This way you will solve your problem faster.....

Best

=snp

Dear Jeff,

I entered the above post wrongly. It was from earlier copy paste...

I entirely agree the concept of vectors is inadequate and have argued the inadequacy of Cartesian systems for modelling motion.

But I got some of my observations...

If can show Missing mass and energy are just calculation errors. If we can show simple arithmetic and Cartesian coordinates are sufficient to show the above things to anyone, will you be able to delete these two from your list? That's what I did in Dynamic Universe model.

By the way I gave you excellent ratings for your keen command on mathematics.

And

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.

best

=snp

Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

If I may, I'd like to express some of my newer conclusions - by themselves, so to speak, and independently of the logic that justifies them; the logic is, of course, outlined in my essay.

I now see the Cosmos as founded upon positive-negative charges: It is a binary structure and process that acquires its most elemental dimensional definition with the appearance of Hydrogen - one proton, one electron.

There is no other interaction so fundamental and all-pervasive as this binary phenomenon: Its continuance produces our elements - which are the array of all possible inorganic variants.

Once there exists a great enough correlation between protons and electrons - that is, once there are a great many Hydrogen atoms, and a great many other types of atoms as well - the continuing Cosmic binary process arranges them all into a new platform: Life.

This phenomenon is quite simply inherent to a Cosmos that has reached a certain volume of particles; and like the Cosmos from which it evolves, life behaves as a binary process.

Life therefore evolves not only by the chance events of natural selection, but also by the chance interactions of its underlying binary elements.

This means that ultimately, DNA behaves as does the atom - each is a particle defined by, and interacting within, its distinct Vortex - or 'platform'.

However, as the cosmic system expands, simple sensory activity is transformed into a third platform, one that is correlated with the Organic and Inorganic phenomena already in existence: This is the Sensory-Cognitive platform.

Most significantly, the development of Sensory-Cognition into a distinct platform, or Vortex, is the event that is responsible for creating (on Earth) the Human Species - in whom the mind has acquired the dexterity to focus upon itself.

Humans affect, and are affected by, the binary field of Sensory-Cognition: We can ask specific questions and enunciate specific answers - and we can also step back and contextualize our conclusions: That is to say, we can move beyond the specific, and create what might be termed 'Unified Binary Fields' - in the same way that the forces acting upon the Cosmos, and holding the whole structure together, simultaneously act upon its individual particles, giving them their motion and structure.

The mind mimics the Cosmos - or more exactly, it is correlated with it.

Thus, it transpires that the role of chance decreases with evolution, because this dual activity (by which we 'particularize' binary elements, while also unifying them into fields) clearly increases our control over the foundational binary process itself.

This in turn signifies that we are evolving, as life in general has always done, towards a new interaction with the Cosmos.

Clearly, the Cosmos is participatory to a far greater degree than Wheeler imagined - with the evolution of the observer continuously re-defining the system.

You might recall the logic by which these conclusions were originally reached in my essay, and the more detailed structure that I also outline there. These elements still hold; the details stated here simply put the paradigm into a sharper focus, I believe.

With many thanks and best wishes,

John

jselye@gmail.com

Hi Jeff,

I read with interest your interesting essay about areas and the ways to calculate them via calculus.

It is good to reexamine our modeling tools and models.

Thanks for your essay.

Don Limuti

Hi Jeff,

Thank you for a deep look at the foundations of our continuum physics. Making sure our mathematical idealizations are actually relevant to what we use them for is essential.

> We conclude that everything is up for review including our most basic assumptions.

You may enjoy my essay Software Cosmos which applies a computational model to resolve several outstanding cosmological puzzles, including Dark Energy. I won't spoil the story by saying how... but I hope you get a chance to read it and let me know what you think.

Hugh

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Dear Jeff,

Indeed we can utilise the Fibonacci sequence away from a black Holes too. Further, the essay hinges at singularities perhaps being avoided, but simply a mathematical trick.

My main theory revealed the sequence and 3-dimensional space as what we ought to observe in our universe, with an extra dimension of time.

The main theory partly unified the four forces and resolves the three paradoxes of cosmogony.

There are other more important points in my essay than the black hole, it explains the arrow of time with regard to dimensionality.

Best wishes,

Antony

Dear Jeff,

Thanks for your reply, I've reciprocated above.

Best wishes in the contest,

Antony

Typo - hints not "hinges" :)

Dear JP,

We are at the end of this essay contest.

In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

Good luck to the winners,

And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

Amazigh H.

I rated your essay.

Please visit My essay.

Hi JP,

You have started your essay with this: "There is no "other" material, only the decrease in something we shall have to think of as the vacuum (energy) density."

That is awesome as I would read one of my publications e.g. on a spin experiment and spacetime deformations:

http://vixra.org/abs/1304.0027

http://vixra.org/abs/1006.0005

I am not kidding.

Fortunately there is still a chance to rate your essay (as you can expect you deserve the highest rating). There are differences but the concept itself is important. This idea can possibly change the physics. Take a quick also look at Torsten Asselmeyer-Maluga's essay on a geometrization of matter if you have time.

Best regards,

Jacek