\"It from Bit or Bit from It?\" by Giacomo Alessiani

Hello Giacomo,

Contests FQXi - this is a competition for new ideas and answers to the fundamental questions of science. You give them. I fully agree with you: «By my point of view, the bit of information is based on a main assumption: the perfect stability of a value can be information, a bit. The value of information bit, must necessarily come from an alteration of a state. And is this state, if changed, to provide the necessary transformation, to take on the new data.»

In your essay clearly visible key concepts for the understanding of the phenomenon and the nature of the information, "state", «stability», "generation", "change", "vector" (Latin - "bearing"), "generation" of new structures. Excellent rating. See my essay. I think we are close in spirit and direction of research.

Vi auguro successo, con rispetto,

Vladimir

Hello Giacomo,

As the contest in Wheeler's honor draws to a close, leaving for the moment considerations of rating and prize money, and knowing we cannot all agree on whether 'it' comes from 'bit' or otherwise or even what 'it' and 'bit' mean, and as we may not be able to read all essays, though we should try, I pose the following 4 simple questions and will rate you accordingly before July 31 when I will be revisiting your blog.

"If you wake up one morning and dip your hand in your pocket and 'detect' a million dollars, then on your way back from work, you dip your hand again and find that there is nothing there...

1) Have you 'elicited' an information in the latter case?

2) If you did not 'participate' by putting your 'detector' hand in your pocket, can you 'elicit' information?

3) If the information is provided by the presence of the crisp notes ('its') you found in your pocket, can the absence of the notes, being an 'immaterial source' convey information?

Finally, leaving for the moment what the terms mean and whether or not they can be discretely expressed in the way spin information is discretely expressed, e.g. by electrons

4) Can the existence/non-existence of an 'it' be a binary choice, representable by 0 and 1?"

Answers can be in binary form for brevity, i.e. YES = 1, NO = 0, e.g. 0-1-0-1.

Best regards,

Akinbo

Graceful Mr. Ojo,

I like this extra , my point is, any information is related to an amount of energy. This energy have its own " virtual copy" into our brain or memory.

But , the gap of energy, between an atom and its copy in our brain is amazingly big...

A number, if You think about it, it is made of electric charge into neurons and the amount of energy will be, at rest,

c ^2 per (mass of electrons involved).

But , human brain and some other species, can be also creative . So,

a brain can produce the answer before the proof, and , when it is creative is in advance on time and do not much more than this.

The last chance, human brain can achieve somehow to a type of quantum entanglement, and receive from the future, answers about a problem.

By my point of view , Science with theory and practice have to focus on EM nature, frequency , period, wavelength, its interaction with space-time geometry . Because is the speed of light to carry information in our reality.

Answers to our brain can not be only 0 or 1 because the neurons are connected together by 3, 4 , 5 organic junctions .

A neuron can diverge the right answer to many outputs.

This mean that a million dollar can be a lot of money for Mario but not too much for Enzo , because Enzo is a very rich man.

Also into my formula m2v2 m1v1 = nMz ... the n is the number of rotation. This number can be integer or less than 1, 234, -45. My 'Basicbit' of information can give a wide typology of answers. My simple formula is very "flexible". Do You agree with this point ?

I think my score will increase after this contest :-) :-)

My Best Regards

Dear Giacomo,

I have read your essay and will score you m2v2, m1v1 which is a high score although the answer you gave to the 4 questions is not binary.

All the best in the contest. You can see my essay and rate also m2v2, m1v1.

Regards,

Akinbo

Dear Giacomo,

I have down loaded your essay and soon post my comments on it. Meanwhile, please, go through my essay and post your comments.

Regards and good luck in the contest,

Sreenath BN.

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1827

Dear Giacomo,

As I told you in my Essay page, I have read your particular Essay. As you correctly stress, the topic of the competition is not exactly the one in your Essay. On the other hand, I appreciate people who "think outside the box" and are not confined within the standard thinking. Also, your Essay gave me fun. Thus, I am going to give you a good rate.

Cheers,

Ch.

Giacomo,

I entirely agree with the principle of physical objects being essential, along with measurability. I apply and carefully define those in my own essay with interesting results, confirming their importance.

I do like your simple analogy, which in a way I've extended, covering all the infinite intermediate angles the straw end could be bent to, along with each 'rotated' angle of the straw, giving a 'Bloch sphere' of infinite detail to nature between binaries 0 and 1. I hope you may read it.

Well done for your clear fundamental description and realist view, always difficult to achieve in a strange language ..like physics!

Best wishes

Peter

Hello Giacomo,

You make a very valid point, that we as humans can indeed influence information and reality. This is something that needs to be said, but hasn't been put across in other essays quite so well. I think you're right! My essay deals with observers and being observed, so perhaps touches on an aspect of what you say in conclusion about acquisition too. Please take a look if you get the chance.

I agree that the Uncertainty Principle was one of the most important milestones in physics in the last century.

Best wishes,

Antony

Giacomo,

There is a link, which is the correspondence between the sphere and a plane, or the circle and a line. The intersections with the perimeter will be a non linear relationship as the line moves across the circle, giving the cosine 'wave'. This is of absolute fundamental importance in explaining the EPR paradox without FTL.

Adding a good number of points to yours now (I hope you may have done or do the same for mine).

Perhaps the rotating straw with infinitely varying angles may become an icon in unification!

Best wishes

Peter

Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

If I may, I'd like to express some of my newer conclusions - by themselves, so to speak, and independently of the logic that justifies them; the logic is, of course, outlined in my essay.

I now see the Cosmos as founded upon positive-negative charges: It is a binary structure and process that acquires its most elemental dimensional definition with the appearance of Hydrogen - one proton, one electron.

There is no other interaction so fundamental and all-pervasive as this binary phenomenon: Its continuance produces our elements - which are the array of all possible inorganic variants.

Once there exists a great enough correlation between protons and electrons - that is, once there are a great many Hydrogen atoms, and a great many other types of atoms as well - the continuing Cosmic binary process arranges them all into a new platform: Life.

This phenomenon is quite simply inherent to a Cosmos that has reached a certain volume of particles; and like the Cosmos from which it evolves, life behaves as a binary process.

Life therefore evolves not only by the chance events of natural selection, but also by the chance interactions of its underlying binary elements.

This means that ultimately, DNA behaves as does the atom - each is a particle defined by, and interacting within, its distinct Vortex - or 'platform'.

However, as the cosmic system expands, simple sensory activity is transformed into a third platform, one that is correlated with the Organic and Inorganic phenomena already in existence: This is the Sensory-Cognitive platform.

Most significantly, the development of Sensory-Cognition into a distinct platform, or Vortex, is the event that is responsible for creating (on Earth) the Human Species - in whom the mind has acquired the dexterity to focus upon itself.

Humans affect, and are affected by, the binary field of Sensory-Cognition: We can ask specific questions and enunciate specific answers - and we can also step back and contextualize our conclusions: That is to say, we can move beyond the specific, and create what might be termed 'Unified Binary Fields' - in the same way that the forces acting upon the Cosmos, and holding the whole structure together, simultaneously act upon its individual particles, giving them their motion and structure.

The mind mimics the Cosmos - or more exactly, it is correlated with it.

Thus, it transpires that the role of chance decreases with evolution, because this dual activity (by which we 'particularize' binary elements, while also unifying them into fields) clearly increases our control over the foundational binary process itself.

This in turn signifies that we are evolving, as life in general has always done, towards a new interaction with the Cosmos.

Clearly, the Cosmos is participatory to a far greater degree than Wheeler imagined - with the evolution of the observer continuously re-defining the system.

You might recall the logic by which these conclusions were originally reached in my essay, and the more detailed structure that I also outline there. These elements still hold; the details stated here simply put the paradigm into a sharper focus, I believe.

With many thanks and best wishes,

John

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Dear Giacomo,

We are at the end of this essay contest.

In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

Good luck to the winners,

And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

Amazigh H.

I rated your essay.

Please visit My essay.

Based on your title, I was hoping you were going to directly address the topic, but what I see is something about a straw bending and I'm not sure how this relates.

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