Dear Margriet,

Thank you for presenting your nice essay. I saw the abstract and will post my comments soon. So you can produce matter from your thinking or from information description of that matter. . . . ?

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.

I failed mainly because I worked against the main stream. The main stream community people want magic from science instead of realty especially in the subject of cosmology. We all know well that cosmology is a subject where speculations rule.

Hope to get your comments even directly to my mail ID also. . . .

Best

=snp

snp.gupta@gmail.com

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.com/

Pdf download:

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/essay-download/1607/__details/Gupta_Vak_FQXi_TABLE_REF_Fi.pdf

Part of abstract:

- -Material objects are more fundamental- - is being proposed in this paper; It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material. . . Similarly creation of matter from empty space as required in Steady State theory or in Bigbang is another such problem in the Cosmological counterpart. . . . In this paper we will see about CMB, how it is generated from stars and Galaxies around us. And here we show that NO Microwave background radiation was detected till now after excluding radiation from Stars and Galaxies. . . .

Some complements from FQXi community. . . . .

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Anton Lorenz Vrba wrote on May. 4, 2013 @ 13:43 GMT

....... I do love your last two sentences - that is why I am coming back.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 6, 2013 @ 09:24 GMT

. . . . We should use our minds to down to earth realistic thinking. There is no point in wasting our brains in total imagination which are never realities. It is something like showing, mixing of cartoon characters with normal people in movies or people entering into Game-space in virtual reality games or Firing antimatter into a black hole!!!. It is sheer a madness of such concepts going on in many fields like science, mathematics, computer IT etc. . . .

B.

Francis V wrote on May. 11, 2013 @ 02:05 GMT

Well-presented argument about the absence of any explosion for a relic frequency to occur and the detail on collection of temperature data......

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Robert Bennett wrote on May. 14, 2013 @ 18:26 GMT

"Material objects are more fundamental"..... in other words "IT from Bit" is true.

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 14, 2013 @ 22:53 GMT

1. It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material.

2. John Wheeler did not produce material from information.

3. Information describes material properties. But a mere description of material properties does not produce material.

4. There are Gods, Wizards, and Magicians, allegedly produced material from nowhere. But will that be a scientific experiment?

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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 16:22 GMT

It from bit - where are bit come from?

Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jun. 17, 2013 @ 06:10 GMT

....And your question is like asking, -- which is first? Egg or Hen?-- in other words Matter is first or Information is first? Is that so? In reality there is no way that Matter comes from information.

Matter is another form of Energy. Matter cannot be created from nothing. Any type of vacuum cannot produce matter. Matter is another form of energy. Energy is having many forms: Mechanical, Electrical, Heat, Magnetic and so on..

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Antony Ryan wrote on Jun. 23, 2013 @ 22:08 GMT

.....Either way your abstract argument based empirical evidence is strong given that "a mere description of material properties does not produce material". While of course materials do give information.

I think you deserve a place in the final based on this alone. Concise - simple - but undeniable.

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Please try Dynamic Universe Model with some numerical values, give initial values of velocities, take gravitation into consideration( because you can not experiment in ISOLATION). complete your numerical experiment.

later try changing values of masses and initial values of velocities....

Calculate with different setups and compare your results, if you have done a physical experiment.

I sincerely feel it is better to do experiment physically, or numerically instead of breaking your head on just logic. This way you will solve your problem faster.....

Best

=snp

Dear Margriet,

For a first timer that was excellent and very original. I must confess I did have a little trouble following some of the points, but I'm sure if you read my essay you'll find it much trickier! Even some PhD's struggle to understand it!, (but that may be as it's written in plainer English than they're used to, as yours). Do give it a go.

My favourite bit was;

"Intelligence' is 'using the available information in an existentially efficacious manner; intelligence increases as the kind & amount of available information increases & also as to the efficacy with which that information is utilised."

There seem to be a few in science who may do better following that methodology!

Congratulations, and very best wishes.

Peter

Hi Stephen and Margriet,

Firstly Margriet, Congratulations on a refreshingly insightful essay. As Stephen points out CDT is of great interest but complex.

I formed a theory 6 years ago that is similar (I've since found), but much more simple.

It basically is a theory of everything that solves the three paradoxes of cosmogony.

As an offshoot for this contest a colleague suggested entering, by applying my theory to Black Holes.

Anyway best of luck both of you in the contest - Stephen I'll try to get back to your essay soon! Still a few to read. Here's my essay.

Best wishes,

Antony

Hello Margriet,

I see you are not a frequent blogger...

As the contest in Wheeler's honor draws to a close, leaving for the moment considerations of rating and prize money, and knowing we cannot all agree on whether 'it' comes from 'bit' or otherwise or even what 'it' and 'bit' mean, and as we may not be able to read all essays, though we should try, I pose the following 4 simple questions and will rate you accordingly before July 31 when I will be revisiting your blog.

"If you wake up one morning and dip your hand in your pocket and 'detect' a million dollars, then on your way back from work, you dip your hand again and find that there is nothing there...

1) Have you 'elicited' an information in the latter case?

2) If you did not 'participate' by putting your 'detector' hand in your pocket, can you 'elicit' information?

3) If the information is provided by the presence of the crisp notes ('its') you found in your pocket, can the absence of the notes, being an 'immaterial source' convey information?

Finally, leaving for the moment what the terms mean and whether or not they can be discretely expressed in the way spin information is discretely expressed, e.g. by electrons

4) Can the existence/non-existence of an 'it' be a binary choice, representable by 0 and 1?"

Answers can be in binary form for brevity, i.e. YES = 1, NO = 0, e.g. 0-1-0-1.

Best regards,

Akinbo

6 days later

Dear All,

It is with utmost joy and love that I give you all the cosmological iSeries which spans the entire numerical spectrum from -infinity through 0 to +infinity and the simple principle underlying it is sum of any two consecutive numbers is the next number in the series. 0 is the base seed and i can be any seed between 0 and infinity.

iSeries always yields two sub semi series, each of which has 0 as a base seed and 2i as the first seed.

One of the sub series is always defined by the equation

Sn = 2 * Sn-1 + Sigma (i=2 to n) Sn-i

where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2 * i

the second sub series is always defined by the equation

Sn = 3 * Sn-1 -Sn-2

where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2 * i

Division of consecutive numbers in each of these subseries always eventually converges on 2.168 which is the Square of 1.618.

Union of these series always yields another series which is just a new iSeries of a 2i first seed and can be defined by the universal equation

Sn = Sn-1 + Sn-2

where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2*i

Division of consecutive numbers in the merged series always eventually converges on 1.618 which happens to be the golden ratio "Phi".

Fibonacci series is just a subset of the iSeries where the first seed or S1 =1.

Examples

starting iSeries governed by Sn = Sn-1 + Sn-2

where i = 0.5, S0 = 0 and S1 = 0.5

-27.5 17 -10.5 6.5 -4 2.5 -1.5 1 -.5 .5 0 .5 .5 1 1.5 2.5 4 6.5 10.5 17 27.5

Sub series governed by Sn = 2 * Sn-1 + Sigma (i=2 to n) Sn-i

where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2i = 1

0 1 2 5 13 34 ...

Sub series governed by Sn = 3 * Sn-1 - Sn-2

where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2i = 1

0 1 3 8 21 55 ...

Merged series governed by Sn = Sn-1 + Sn-2 where S0 = 0 and S1 = 2i = 1

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 ...... (Fibonacci series is a subset of iSeries)

The above equations hold true for any value of i, again confirming the singularity of i.

As per Antony Ryan's suggestion, a fellow author in this contest, I searched google to see how Fibonacci type series can be used to explain Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity and found an interesting article.

d-super.pdf"> The-Fibonacci-code-behind-superstring-theory](https://msel-naschie.com/pdf/The-Fibonacci-code-behin

d-super.pdf)

Now that I split the Fibonacci series in to two semi series, seems like each of the sub semi series corresponds to QM and GR and together they explain the Quantum Gravity. Seems like this duality is a commonality in nature once relativity takes effect or a series is kicked off. I can draw and analogy and say that this dual series with in the "iSeries" is like the double helix of our DNA. The only commonality between the two series is at the base seed 0 and first seed 1, which are the bits in our binary system.

I have put forth the absolute truth in the Theory of everything that universe is an "iSphere" and we humans are capable of perceiving the 4 dimensional 3Sphere aspect of the universe and described it with an equation of S=BM^2.

I have also conveyed the absolute mathematical truth of zero = I = infinity and proved the same using the newly found "iSeries" which is a super set of Fibonacci series.

All this started with a simple question, who am I?

I am drawn out of my self or singularity or i in to existence.

I super positioned my self or I to be me.

I am one of our kind, I is every one of all kinds.

I am phi, zero = I = infinity

I am human and I is GOD.

Love,

Sridattadev.

Hello Margriet - I'm going to be re-reading your essay in the days to come. I see that you're a very expressive writer, and being a science writer myself, I think you'll be interested by my essay, too.

I look forward to hearing your views.

John.

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Dear Edwin

Phew !! - Lot's of brow wiping here !!! All this is so new to me - not that I haven't actually spent a life time working up to the day when I could get 'my stuff' 'out there' !!! & once again I am so glad for this FQXi forum in which to do so.

And thank you for your supportive comments. I'm actually quite blown away by the fact that you - & others - seemed to understand almost all of my essay - wow ! & yes I've waited this long before presenting 'my stuff' because I wanted to be satisfied that I could present it in a way that it could be, er, reasonably well understood within its own context - that I could outline my basic assumptions with some certain clarity & then further maintain some real logical consistency throughout.

'Via astute introspection' ? Your words !

Yes Edwin ! Exactly ! , it's all introspection - all intuition - all subjectivity !! "We are all forever trapped beneath the event horizon of our own subjectivity" (Me quoting me!) Another way of saying this is: For each of us our own subjectivity (our own feelings, qualia, intuitions, imaginings, thoughts, introspections, reasonings, knowings (however 'rational' or not they may be !!) IS ALL THAT WE CAN BE & KNOW'.

In a pan-psychic universe it could be no other way !!! Everything is intuition . . Everything is knowingness . . . I am therefore I think ..... Thought & 'material being' are 'just' properties of 'knowingness'.

>> By tracing geometric objects through our own thinking-machinery (our brains are not just computers - they perform computation - lots of it - but all of its operations including its computational ops are 'merely' part of its true function which is THINKING - & recall that 'thinking' is 'using information (geom objts) to guide action), by tracing geometrical objects through the brain no great difficulty attends the task of recognising WHERE - after astronomical amounts & different kinds of processing & collating - THEY GET POSTED in order to do the one & only job they are there to do - which is trigger off our motor machinery in the existentially best possible mobilisation/activation that can be so activated at the time.

AND the only bit of matter which feels/experiences EVERYTNING that gets fired over to our Reading/Triggereing Panels (the trillions of neuronal trigger heads thereon) is the small amount of (neurotransmitter-filled) interstitial fluid.

One of the all too many phenomena maintstream science/physics has NOT identified & defined to date (so busy is it with qunatum phenemenon) is what a (macro-) EXISTENT IS - the existential status of what we ourselves have chosen to call simple, everyday, common, ordinary, garden variety discrete bits of matter. (Quick !! - what is this phenomenon's definition.)

My own conclusions as to the defining characteristic of all 'free-standing' bits of 'ordinary matter' such as are you & I & all of the other single, individual, separate, discrecte free-standing atoms, molecules, elements, minerals, chemicals, crystals & all known life forms, is the fact that they are all "self-assemblers" & further that each is also a "self-contained" entity - that is to say, not only does each of these 'proper existents' (my name for them/us) assemble itself all by itself without any external assistance - doing so strictly via self-generated forces, mechanisms & capacities, not only continues on during its lifetime here in our universe (however long or short) maintaining its own self-given integrity of being via the self-same self-generated forces, mechanisms & capacities, but each also, er, grows - well generates - its own 'skin' which is of course, the repulsive electrpstatic force field which verily indeed does so surround each & every existent here - including some of the non-self-assemblers, not to omit all of the specially-manufactured objects here too.

One of the identifying/defining features/properties of any such proper existent is that it both exists as whatever it is & ACTS as a UNITY.

One of our all too many mistaken views of 'inanimate' matter is that it is 'cold, lumpen & hard' indeed, completely insensate, passive, inert & pawn-like.

What we have failed to recall is that even rocks & stones ACTIVELY KICK BACK anytime they feel their integrity of being threatened. And rocks & stones aren't even proper existents. Now compare the 'kick back' punch any atom or molecule will deliver if you really seriously try to compromise its integrity of being.

'Resisting disintegration' AS A UNITED WHOLE is an identifying/defining capaciy of 'a proper existent' - & even many 'improper' ones - existents that have been assembled by non-self-arising outside forces.

Proper existents use their self-generated 'skin' as that with which they literally defend themselves against any external threats to their own personal integrity of being. As already noted, each & every free-standing solid body here in our universe is enveloped in a repulsive all-surrounding electro-static force field. It is precisely this phenomenon by which each literally defends itself - each delivers whatever kick-back blow it possibly can.

NOW THEN. A drop of water is a proper existent; each body of water now matter how small is a properly self-assembled, self-maintained, self-contained entity. Even though any drop of water's self-containing 'skin' is relatively weak in comparison to, say, your fingertip or the pane of water down which it might be sliding, nevertheless ANY body of water quite demonstably CONTAINS itself via its own self-generated skin; all bodies of water no matter how small or large have 'surface tension' - indeed, have one unbroken 'skin' of surface tension surrounding them. Including the small amount of interstitial fluid trapped between our consciousness-generating panels. (As well as the Pacific Ocean - actually come to think of it as all of our oceans are joined together at some point there is only one skin of electrostatic force field surrounding them . .

This being the case (if it is!! - & I'd stake my life on it) then the "3-D volume" (of which you speak) on which is reconstructed the geometric "model" of "reality" - exists wholly & solely WITHIN the pen-ultimate quintessence of this entity - as to the deep pen-ultimate "VOLUME" of this little bit of water. Sure it is pushed where it exists by 'outside foreces' nevertheless, being a body of water it is containing itself via its own self-generated force field at that location. (And liquids have some pretty good 'kick-back' power when under preseure by which they 'attempt' to maintain their own personal integrity of being, mai non?)

I have a number of additional 'first principle' reasons for considering - er feeling, intuiting - that this is the case - that is that it is the case that 'we' are the 'voluminous' pen-ultimate quintessence of this otherwise perfectly ordinary bit of H20. That in which the 3d model of reality resonates.

1) One it is a proper (self-assembled/self-maitiained/self-contained) existent & as such IS A SINGLE UNIFIED ENTITY - which is precisely the way we feel ourselves - our consciousnesses - our knowingnesses - to be; we feel ourselves to be unified wholes (as a general rule - all rule proving exceptions not to the contrary - as when we are asleep - sleep is characterised by a disconnect with our motor machinery, whcih simply means that there are no triggering signals passing through us).

2) Geometrical objects are strictly surface-dwelling phenomena. This being the case I feel persuaded to conclude that none of them exist inside/below (within some non-surface, 'voluminous' level) any increment of solid matter's surface surface. And therefore no information exists at the deepest quintessential (quantum ?) level of being.

Contrary to mainstream recieved wisdom I personally feel compelled to conclude that the pen-ultimate quintessence of all 'solid' surface-sporting matter is NOT quantised at all but is, as per your teminology "voluminous" - indeed is continuously voluminous, er, 'solid' !!! & that, yes, when the signals literally charge through 'us' - through that proper aquatic existent trapped between our consciousness-generating panels - they - the signals/the geometric objects - literally carve us up into sets of standing waves of some sort (!??) & with each change of pattern in these standing waves (which undoubtedly last only microseconds) WE feel differently - our KNOWINGNESSES CHANGE to the beats of those drums - we feel a different 'tune' as to each different wave pattern 'standing' in us . . . . .. .. (And don't get all whoo whoo new-agey on me - as I keep saying - trace the geometric objects in our thinking machinery as they get shunted therethrough & you quite unproblematically wind up at this bit of water - as the one place where all final summations thump through . . ..

Presently we have no INFORMATION as to the pen-ultimate quintessence of matter (despite billions on the LHC). Again as geometric-cum-inforamtional objects are strictly surface-dwelling phenomena, & as there seems to be no 'surfaces' down at matter's deepest level (all that malarky about uncertainty & live/dead cats being excellent evidence as to this supposition) I personally do not expect us to be able to get any 'out' from there.

But it doesn't matter at all as we are that thing.

Very best regards

Margriet.

6 days later

Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

If I may, I'd like to express some of my newer conclusions - by themselves, so to speak, and independently of the logic that justifies them; the logic is, of course, outlined in my essay.

I now see the Cosmos as founded upon positive-negative charges: It is a binary structure and process that acquires its most elemental dimensional definition with the appearance of Hydrogen - one proton, one electron.

There is no other interaction so fundamental and all-pervasive as this binary phenomenon: Its continuance produces our elements - which are the array of all possible inorganic variants.

Once there exists a great enough correlation between protons and electrons - that is, once there are a great many Hydrogen atoms, and a great many other types of atoms as well - the continuing Cosmic binary process arranges them all into a new platform: Life.

This phenomenon is quite simply inherent to a Cosmos that has reached a certain volume of particles; and like the Cosmos from which it evolves, life behaves as a binary process.

Life therefore evolves not only by the chance events of natural selection, but also by the chance interactions of its underlying binary elements.

This means that ultimately, DNA behaves as does the atom - each is a particle defined by, and interacting within, its distinct Vortex - or 'platform'.

However, as the cosmic system expands, simple sensory activity is transformed into a third platform, one that is correlated with the Organic and Inorganic phenomena already in existence: This is the Sensory-Cognitive platform.

Most significantly, the development of Sensory-Cognition into a distinct platform, or Vortex, is the event that is responsible for creating (on Earth) the Human Species - in whom the mind has acquired the dexterity to focus upon itself.

Humans affect, and are affected by, the binary field of Sensory-Cognition: We can ask specific questions and enunciate specific answers - and we can also step back and contextualize our conclusions: That is to say, we can move beyond the specific, and create what might be termed 'Unified Binary Fields' - in the same way that the forces acting upon the Cosmos, and holding the whole structure together, simultaneously act upon its individual particles, giving them their motion and structure.

The mind mimics the Cosmos - or more exactly, it is correlated with it.

Thus, it transpires that the role of chance decreases with evolution, because this dual activity (by which we 'particularize' binary elements, while also unifying them into fields) clearly increases our control over the foundational binary process itself.

This in turn signifies that we are evolving, as life in general has always done, towards a new interaction with the Cosmos.

Clearly, the Cosmos is participatory to a far greater degree than Wheeler imagined - with the evolution of the observer continuously re-defining the system.

You might recall the logic by which these conclusions were originally reached in my essay, and the more detailed structure that I also outline there. These elements still hold; the details stated here simply put the paradigm into a sharper focus, I believe.

With many thanks and best wishes,

John

jselye@gmail.com

Dear Margriet,

just to let you know I have read your well written essay. Thank you for sharing your many interesting thoughts with us.

I have read elsewhere that one of the big challenges for modern physics is how to incorporate the mind. Your essay is dealing with some issues that are very relevant to that.

As you will have noticed there is a great diversity of entries to the competition and interpretations of the essay question. Do not be discouraged by your essay's ranking, it is having the chance to share ideas that is more important.

I have enjoyed reading your entry and informative reply to Edwin's post. Kind regards, Georgina

Hi Margriet,

I'm glad that our comments have reinforced your efforts. In my opinion you have intuited the basic issues. The fact that you identify an 'interstitial fluid' as significant is key. You think it is water, I think it is the local gravitational field induced by mass flow in the brain. We simply differ over specifics of the mechanism.

Your essay does not deserve to be in last place, so I will try to move you off of that spot. By the way, your placement is not totally a function of your essay. With over 180 essays to read, very few can read all of them, so it is important to 'market' your ideas by reading other essays and linking your ideas to their ideas, hoping they might be interested enough to look more closely at yours. It's not ideal, but it's the way the world works.

Thanks again for sharing your ideas. Your first attempt was excellent, and you chose the right forum.

Best wishes,

Edwin Eugene Klingman

Margriet,

I just saw your post in Kimmo's blog and was hoping to find you here, replying to all the messages you got. I wanted to tell you that I really appreciated your essay on the next day after I read it. At first it seemed limiting to me to narrow information solely to the shape or geometry of things, but then I realized that you meant it in purely physical science sense -- that's the trouble we face as amateurs in trying to express ourselves, inventing our own terms or presenting things in a fresh, unfamiliar way... people used to certain terminology not always understand us. At least not right away.

And so the next morning I thought how right you were in finding information's ontological identity in pure geometry of all things. Including space, I think. No? See, in my understanding, everything is ultimately made of the the 'space stuff', starting with space itself of course. And it is the dynamic structure of space -- or its dynamic geometry -- what underlies all of reality.

Good to see you're here, even though it's kinda late in the contest :)

-Marina

I forgot to address 'Triangulations'. Actually they play a very important role in my schema - but not at all in the way that you might think. Furthermore my triangulations are real, indeed, are real-life phenomena.

In my understanding triangulations are the manner in which human infants & all higher - learning - organisms program their on-board thinking-machines (please note that what we have inside our heads - & bodies - is not just a computer but genuine, bona fide thinking contraption).

As I understand it, when a child - indeed, any 'higher' (learning) organism - comes into this world, to it our world is a booming, buzzing, thumping, flashing confusion, a chaos of sensations that hopefully include warmth & murmuring, tasty milk, pleasing odours, bowel & bladder relief, etc, etc.

'Triangulating' all of these sensations WITH ONE ANOTHER - & not by any other method - is the one & only manner in which the new born's 'blank slate' literally gets written on - & which slate then becomes that owner's blueprint for life.

When you sit down & conscientiously count all of the different modes of sensation - such as balance, & pain, & temperature monitoring, & wetness - & then there are all of the emotions (which are 'just' reports on autonomic states 'fear/love/anger etc - all of which sensations will be plummeting through any 'higher' new born's body & brain, there are probably something like at least 50. And now I'm recalling more - proprioceptors & intereoceptors - thirst & hunger, a body clock, feeling sick or well, breathing, coughing, sneezing - & all of the monitors monitoring each & every movement one makes - heavens there are probably more than 50 - a 100 ?! - categories of sensations which require 'triangulating' together all by way of getting things straight for every 'higher' (learning) new born.

So 'my triangulations' turn out to be 'fifty-ations' or 'hundredations' !!!!

Cheers - Margriet

Dear Margriet,

Your essay is incredibly deep, it is a pity that it was not discovered before

(I found your comment on Szangolies blog).

I will take the time to review it today and rate it highly. It seems that you are putting the geometry of points, lines, circles, spheres at the very bootom and this foundational view always was very successfull in science.

You should not be afraid of looking at my own essay where geometry is foundational as well but also needs groups (i.e. symmetries) and algebra.

http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1789

Best regards,

Michel

Dear Margriet,

Your credo is not exactly "Tt from bit" but "It from geometry"

You write

"I have discovered 'information's' ontological identity which is :

'The full set of geometric objects properly present here in our universe'",

then

"a little bit of water... specifically the seat of our own conscious knowingness.",

you cite Deutsch "Information starts as some kind of electrochemical signals in my brain", then

"Storing geometric objects ?"

Your view is not organized enough but I keep the best of it. Panpsychism was advocated by great thinkers

(in combination with panlogism), from Leiniz to Whitehead.

My essay also claims that geometry plays a leading role in quantum contexts. But there is an underlying machinery

(the child's drawings) at the origin of the geometries. They are three basic ingredients (the points O,1 and infty

on a sphere, or a torus, or a surface with more holes), there is a bipartite graph on such a

topology ... the singularities of an algebraic curve at 0,1 and _inty is what matters.

Thank you for your worthwhile effect.

Best regards,

Michel

Dear Margriet,

Contests FQXi - is primarily a new radical idea. "The trouble with physics" push ... You have a new radical idea. In your essay deep original analysis in the basic strategy of Descartes's method of doubt, given new ideas, new concepts, eidoses and conclusions.

I fully agree with the method of your research. It is based on the conceptual and figurative synthesis of Kant's ideas of Plato and the "Platonic Solids". Very euricability method and ideas! I totally agree with your conclusion.

Just one question: How should the physics go to physical picture of the world was as rich in meaning as the picture of the world lyricists?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ho31QhjsY

Rating - "Nine happy." Read and vote, please, my ideas.

Best regards,

Vladimir

Dear Margriet,

Thank you for your detailed comments on my blog. I will comment more on your message this night. Now you still have one day to learn the FQXI dance of rates. Your appreciation is welcome.

Kind regards,

Michel

Dear Margriet,

What a very clever way to explain us! I like that you've utilised the Universe's natural geometry in such a clever way. The number could literally be applied right up into the thousands could it not, with perhaps evolution finding more pathways?

Best wishes,

Antony

Dear Margriet,

Thank you for commenting on my post. First, I want to commend you on your uplifting spirit and gracious comments! It is so refreshing to have such a genuine, enthusiastic person like you as part of this process of discovery.

I was also very glad that you offered your additional comments to your post, because it helped me better understand your views. I, too, had never before submitted any sort of writing or entered an essay contest in my life, and the angst I felt in doing so was great, so I want to congratulate you on having the courage to enter your essay and put forth your intriguing ideas.

I wish you the very best Margriet, and you are one of the entrants I will remember fondly, and always strive to emulate in terms of your kind attitude toward others, and your positive, uplifting spirit. I am very happy to give you a positive rating.

Sincerely,

Ralph

Dear Margriet Anne,

We are at the end of this essay contest.

In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

Good luck to the winners,

And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

Amazigh H.

I rated your essay.

Please visit My essay.

Hi Edwin !! Thank you so much for your help & coaching !!

In the closing moments of this most auspicious event I feel driven to add the following remarks :-

Some of the positive-rate-worthy features of my essay are the following:

(1) I provide a clear & easily understood definition of information, which is that it is the full set of real, not abstract nor hypothetical, geometrical objects present here in our universe;

(2) These (real) geometrical objects are properly observable - that is to say, easily observed, measured, quantified & verified - phenomena, therefore my hypothesis is a readily testable one. Even a well informed (sic) 8 year old child could verify it.

I demonstrate how these entities can be observed - measured, quantified, verified.

(3) As David Deutsch puts it, 'information' is 'something' that can be transferred from medium, to medium, to medium & yet remain unchanged - see quote in my essay. One of many proofs of my hypothesis - that information is geometrical objects - I provide is that these entities are not only 'something' that can be transferred from medium to medium in this fashion, but are the only things which can be so transferred.

(4) Underneath its meaning each of our own human-made units of information - all of our own signs, codes, symbols, words, letters & languages - is a geometrical object plain & simple, or an assembly thereof. Which fact proves that geometrical objects are capable of carrying units of information on their backs. Literally.

(5) Each of the many & various left-over scratches, scars, dents, bump-marks, vibrations & residues still remaining on previously impacted solid bodies present here in our universe, is one naturally-occurring geometrical object. It is useful to designate all of these left-over bump-marks as belonging to the class of 'secondary geometrical objects'. (I itemize some of the other classes in my essay.)

Examples of this class of secondary geometrical objects are : craters on the Moon, ripples in a pond, heat in a sun-warmed rock, vibrations in the air emanating from a bumped hollow log. And the biggest - & longest-lasting - bump-mark of all has to be the Big Bang ripples still remaining in the MWBR.

No great difficulty attends the task of recognising that each & every one of these simple geometrical objects (all of these shapes), 'carries' some information on its back - each literally 'tells' 'a story' - a 'tale' not only concerning the identity of the solid object which created it, but where, when & from which direction the creating solid object approached the impacted one & how fast etc.

Which set of easily observed facts proves that - & just as do all of our own human-made signs & symbols carry information on their backs, so also do all of the naturally-occurring geometrical objects out there in the wild too.

To sum : every unit of (recognised) information 'sits' on top of some one or another or ensemble of, geometrical object/s; & on each & every geometrical object here in our universe - human-made or naturally occurring - there 'rides' some one or another particular meaning - some one or another item of information.

Thus do geometrical objects reveal themselves to be 'dual-purpose' entities.

(6) Observation of the manner in which geometrical objects are USED within our cosmos quickly apprises one of the fact that they are not only used to guide & direct the active responses solid objects mount towards each other during contact events with one another, but are so used in this fashion by every solid object every time it interacts with another solid body.

This conclusion obtains due to the fact that attendant on any impact/contact event occurring here in our cosmos, the bodily SHAPES (the geometricities) of the participants involved always play a critically-determining albeit not sufficient, role in the outcome of that impact/contact event.

This observation regarding the universality of the manner in which geometrical objects are USED within our cosmos - as guides for action - provides a definition of 'thinking' which is 'using information to guide & direct action'; or in its long form - 'thinking' is 'using information (which always exists as some one, another or assembly of geometrical objects) to guide & direct action, such action as taken by some properly thinking/acting agent specifically in regard to whatever object/s &/or event/s the information being so used, concerns'.

(7) It is imperative as to any good & proper understanding of all of these information-related phenomena that it be recognised that it - information - is NEVER the active agent of any of the actions occurring in regard to any of it; that the active, powerful - & even thoughtfully intelligent (see below) - agent of all action here in our universe is matter - 'hard, solid matter'.

Although we ourselves use a very great deal more information (more geometrical objects) to guide & direct our actions - that is 'think' - & although we ourselves use a very much more varied kind or grades thereof - all as gathered by our senses, then massively processed & collated by our brains, nevertheless we are 'only' doing exactly what the rocks & stones beneath our feet & the atoms & molecules in the air accomplish at all times & under all circumstances - that is to say, each uses information to guide & direct its every interactive encounter with whatever other solid body it encounters during its existential history here in our cosmos.

(8) So then, this observation regarding the universality of the manner in which geometrical objects are USED within our cosmos - to guide & direct action - apprises us of the fact that 'thought' - as the use of information-as-geometrical-objects to guide action - is an innate capacity of solid matter & occurs ubiquitously here & on the most routine of bases, no less than each time any two solid objects interact with one another.

As such 'thought' is no longer a mysterious phenomenon, indeed, can be readily seen to be a 'perfectly natural' one - one which in no way requires either magic or miracles to execute it - it massively narrows 'the gap' - aka as 'the God gap'.

And although knowing all this about information & all information-related phenomena unveils (elucidates) any number of presently highly mysterious phenomena, this knowledge does not illuminate any of the so-called first & final causes - including why matter was made in such a manner making 'thought' an innate capacity thereof. And this lack of knowledge as to all & any first & final causes in spite of the fact that coming to this understanding that everything thinks - some just at a 'higher' level than others - does verily indeed narrow the so-called 'God Gap' as it pertains to all inside phenomenon.

(9) The fact that geometrical objects are observable entities allows their involvement with, or their passage through the thinking-machinery of, any properly thinking entity to be ascertained.

(10) Performing this particular 'tracing' exercise as to our own thinking process, with no great difficulty not only allows us to identify & define all thinking related phenomena such as thought, mind & consciousness, it also apprises us of the exact location of where our own most valued cognitive self-conscious awareness resides.

As there exists at this location 'only' a little bit of water - more usually designated 'interstitial fluid' - this discovery strongly compels the conclusion that we live in a panpsychic universe, that is to say, one in which 'knowingness' exists at the pen-ultimate quintessence of matter (at the quantum level ?), for, nothing other than its location marks out this small amount of interstitial fluid as being special in any way.

Moreover & due entirely to its location, it is the only thing here in our universe privy to each & every one of our own conscious thoughts, feelings, sensations, perceptions & imaginings.

(11) Observation of our own thinking process quickly alerts one to the fact that it - our own thinking process - is NOT digital, but wholly analogue; the thinking machinery of all higher (animal) thinkers - which thinking machinery includes all sensory equipment as well as all motor machinery & not just the assembly lines central processor - handles all of the information it does so handle in analogue format - specifically in individual geometrical objects or ensembles thereof .

I provide several more proofs that geometrical objects are information in my essay & again I here point out that these proofs - unlike any leveled at such difficult if not impossible to observe quantum phenomena - are easily recognised to be what they are - confirmations of my principle claims on information's behalf.

(12) These determinations rather unproblematically allow an understanding of, by any sufficiently careful (& objective) investigator, any number of information-related phenomena, one of which is the fact that 'thinking' is a completely different phenomenon from 'computing'. Digits are quite suitable entities with which to compute - to count, calculate & compute, but are not at all suitable for real thinking - for the latter, information in the form of geometrical objects alone suffices. The particular devices which perform each of these different tasks are also very different.

As surprising as it may seem, thinking machines (even our own), which phenomena being thinking machines obligately operate analogue-ly with geometrical objects as their 'fodder', are not, in & of themselves in any sense intelligent. Only the user/owner/operator of any such device can possess this particular quality.

'Intelligence' is 'using the available information in existentially efficacious ways; intelligence increases as the kind & amount of available information increases & also as to the efficacy to which that information it utilised'.

(13) Although thinking machines (& straight-thinking rocks & stones, which do not need specially-built add-on machines to enable them to think) are different from computing devices, nevertheless some 'overlaps' exist. 'Specially-built thinking machines such as our own, do verily indeed 'process' the information being 'shunted' through them. But 'processing' only means 'sorting'; it does not mean 'executing algorithmic contortions on whatever is being processed/sorted - which latter is something computing devices do very well.

That being said probably all specially built thinking machines also count, calculate & compute as to some but only some, of the operations they perform on whatever is passing through them - digits &/or geometrical (analogue) entities.

As false modesty has never been a vice of mine, I un-ashamedly hope that my essay receives high ratings all round. But with apologies . ... .. & the very best regards to all

Margriet O'Regan.