Essay Abstract

This essay emerges from a learned person's critical thinking. Because thought underlies our actions and interactions, understanding and seeking its physical and metaphysical origin, there is a risk, if we are not able to adequately assure our own thoughts and how we act factually to materialize things steered by thoughts, we should incur manipulated by our own thoughts. In worst case directed by some ones' else interest who have already studied, researched the faculty of thoughts, and presumably developed peculiar abilities, technologies for reality manipulation based on thoughts. Whether who are responsible for studying the effects of our thoughts? The author's aim to tug us to understand truly the fundamentals not oversimplifying the pertinent inquiry, but much rather triggering an Eureka effect. Aristotle well before Newton has already recognized the self-thinking thought being the unmoved mover, the hidden one even utmost wise. He also thought about how something can become something else inherited from his predecessors by differentiating between the potentiality and actuality. He surely was thinking meanwhile he inhabited a substance. This essay at best can suggest quirky to see the modern physics and meta-physics and its relations with else scientific fields to describe how the everlasting thinking process is in working, how can express itself via a medium being both non-physical and physical even so simultaneously existing factually timeless but variable. The author encourages a new perspective namely interconnecting philosophy of physics and philosophy of mind, as a physics of thought and boosts a realistic cosmology seeing us as the BIG PICTURE of Universe interwoven a Cosmic MAN during his own thinking and acts.

Author Bio

I'm a quite technical woman with almost 35 years' work experiences on several of IT fields, cross platform web application development, consultancy, and educations. I have a programmer mathematician BSC level degree also middle grade degree in chemistry. Along with my quite average existence and works, I spent parallel many years on behind scenes personal scrutiny. Based on my own consciousness development, learning path, and the collective information which heavily emerged from behind the scenes in the past 25 years I concluded, our timeless knowledge probably converging in the NOW, thus I wrote this essay hoping the right moment.

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Dear Valeria

I really enjoyed your reasonable (i.e.) well-reasoned essay. You tend to steer the reader into a solipsist moebius strip world reflected between parallel mirrors - trying to decided first the nature of reality and what to do about things (if there are things). If one of those delightful creatures you drew in the nested worlds of your illustration should look up to see a pot of geraniums hurtling directly down on his or her or its head, should he or she or it run away fast or conduct a thought experiment about gravity and the possibilities of its being a simulated pot of geraniums? What would The Brain That Wouldn't Die do?

With best wishes from (I think)

Vladimir

    Dear Ms.Gyenge,

    I must congratulate you for you have written a really terrific essay.

    As I have pointed out in my essay, REALITY, ONCE, only unique exists. The computers rely on the existence of seeming identical states existing. Whereas it might appear that the more "intelligent" an artificial "intelligence contraption becomes, the less "intelligent" real human intelligence must decline, this is an aberration. Unique is not measurable.

    I think that a gang of modern super active Luddites will soon start dismantling technology backed by religious governance.

    I do wish you well in the contest,

    Joe

      Dear Joe!

      Thank you for your comment.

      I agree, the existence is unique!

      However as per my understanding the 'reality' can be seen and apprehended severally. I'm lucky, because my language (Hungarian) distinguishes two words concerning 'realitás = should mean things being in actuality' and 'valóság = what should mean ISness'. So the latter most closed to similar meaning in English as existence.

      I think, you are right again today computers rely on mimicking processes how natural beings with higher cognitive functions process information by their thinking about their reality. Nowadays computer technology can be speeded up using silicon instead of carbon so beings seem should be replaceable silicon based too.

      I think, surely there are positive considerations why should be better a silicon based biology than carbon. For example, what a quite sophisticate quantum governor computer that misses all natural human factor presumably won't never do - error! However, all human development based on errors to repair! How to develop forward for an utmost quantum society? How boring should that be eventually.

      Probably, religious aspects also involved :)

      Dear Vladimir (I think :)

      Thank you for your comment.

      Let me apologize, but I won't watch this addressed film. I mentioned in my essay I found uncanny the idea someone's brain could be downloaded to a body either artificial or transplanted to one whose body is somebody else.

      I can agree however the continuity one's thoughts with development.

      What I drew in my illustration is one's thoughts development during several incarnations (the latter is unscientific term yet, albeit the present modern physics e.g string theory, M-theory can quite well describe) of which memories are folded into light bodies which are factually wave-fields.

      The so called actual genetic make-up e.g one's physical, biologically arranged body (see: The Body Electric - Electromagnetism and a foundation of Life by Robert O. Becker M.D, Gary Selden) need to fit to express what his actual (Levels of Energy - An introduction to spectral consciousness by Frederick E. Dodson) can read as one's approachable memories held in those wave-fields e.g. Light bodies.

      I suggest studying too, Gariaev's work about wave genetics.

      I think, one's only brain conserved is not enough to hold him/her alive or at least only a portion of his/her knowledge should be getting back, without conserving his/her full genetic and also etheric memory complex. Even more his/her bodily resurrection requires very careful genetic technology.

      You are welcome Gyenge

      I watched that film when I was a kid and saw it again yesterday it is a crude concept of what life and mind consist of, compared to modern thinking. You test various scenarios about the evolution of humans or computers or an amalgam of both to reach some state of intelligence that can cope efficiently with life on earth. At least you do not advise leaving Earth, as many do to start life on some other planet or star, merely transplanting our possible stupid mistakes somewhere else.

      I will look at the researchers you mentioned, but in my remaining life on Earth I would rather smell some real roses (whether they are a simulation or not) and leave to more specialised researchers like you the larger questions of what is real, how resurrection can be achieved by technology (not just by mothers and other organism continuing the species) and related questions.

      Vladimir (I am almost sure now)

      Dear Vladimir!

      Thank you for your reply.

      Yes, you understand my essay concept well. I'm truly glad! Because, if there may be an only person who understand, it is worth to write down. I truly hope my essay can act at least as a catalyst leading us for bringing optimally balanced decisions sustaining our original human life form on Earth.

      Yes, I think there is 'only Planet', at least we do not understand yet what a planet should mean as a coherent life supporting system at severally structured levels. Buckmister Fuller worked hard and you surely heard about his famous concept 'Spaceship Earth'.

      I deeply sympathize with your thought about smelling some rose either or ... even more I'd like only enjoy and appreciate the ISness :)) However if we suppose there is a kind of life program running yet (we should name pre-destination and incarnations reaching a proper self-identity) I'm afraid of we cannot so simply escape as pushing a button on a computer...

      I will continue this post on your essay site, because I deem it best appropriate for putting that there.

      Thank you for your understanding.

      Valeria

      Dear Ms.Gyenge,

      As I tried to point out in my essay, the biggest hindrance to understanding reality is the English language. Unique reality cannot be tensed, or possibly be durational, or be systematic. Yet the English word reality presupposes that there could be an opposite state of unreality that could exist simultaneously with reality. Worse, arrogant scientists somewhat smugly insist that they can accurately measure, or identify both of these supposed opposite states of reality and unreality.

      Unique reality has no starting point. Any device that attempts to produce a simulated reality identical to real reality is doomed to failure because it has to have a starting point. The brain in the bottle would have to "start" thinking. It would also have to know the supposed difference between rational and irrational thoughts. All human thoughts are unique. Those thoughts are neither rational or irrational. One seems to spend as much of one's brainpower activating the scratching of one's backside when it itches as one does in trying to understand the government's policy on immigration.

      Dear Joe!

      I feel some misunderstanding your mentioned 'UNIQUE reality' interpretation.

      In English the word 'unique' as an adjective has 4 meanings

      1.Radically distinctive and without equal

      2.(followed by 'to') applying exclusively to a given category, condition or locality

      3.The single one of its kind

      4.Highly unusual or rare but not the single instance

      To which meaning of 4 do you refer to?

      As a noun from which unique deriving from is 'uniqueness' what means > The quality of being one of a kind

      What kind of quality of being do you refer to?

      The noun 'reality' also has 4 meanings.

      1.All of your experiences that determine how things appear to you

      2.The state of being actual or real

      3.The state of the world as it really is rather than as you might want it to be

      4.The quality possessed by something that is real

      To which meaning of 4 do you refer to?

      The existence does not come into existence. So it truly has not a starting point. But the meaning of existence really does not equal with reality. So in this manner the existence can be unique(1).

      I think, also there is a misunderstanding in that a thought or the thinking can start. The thinking process continuously and unconditionally inherent thus so unique as the existence itself. The problem is nobody stated yet exactly what the thought is, that can be a kind of energy too. But that is interesting one can control thought voluntary or not. So it seemingly can be started/stopped.

      You may be right, in the rest what you write, I deem to understand what you wish to say..

      Best wishes,

      Valeria

      Dear Ms.Gyenge,

      As I tried to point out in my essay, the biggest hindrance to understanding reality is the English language. Unique reality cannot be tensed, or possibly be durational, or be systematic. Reality does not consist of information.

      On one hand, we have a bunch of experts insisting that it has taken thousands of years for the human brain to naturally develop. And fortuitously for us, we now have a bunch of other experts with naturally developed thousands of years old brains who claim that they can manufacture a brain in next to no time and this man-made brain will be superior in all respects to any human brain ever produced by nature. This fabricated brain will only produce 100% pure reasoning and it will prove its superiority by using some sort of brand new application of the binary code. Heaven forefend if the contraption decides to communicate with us using only some part of the language that was common to the ancient city of Atlantis prior to its becoming submerged,

      Joe

      Dear Joe!

      Just because I'm criticizing your used terms, that doesn't mean I disagree with you. Please reckon with: How much manipulation should come quite resulted from the misinterpretation of meanings!

      I understand your mentioning the hindrance using English..quite because there is a big difference, Hungarian (some ones deem that stem from Sumerian) uses many words with much simpler exact meaning, we have only simple past/present/future even more those can be blended in one complex sentence.

      The UNIQUE REALITY expression however unmeaning for me either on English or Hungarian.

      In my approximate understanding you refer to a UNIQUE REALITY to be an ORIGINAL WORLD WHERE BEINGS LIVE WITHOUT ANY LAW and probably THIS KIND OF REALITY DOESN'T CONTAIN ANY INFORMATION.

      If you means that, I can disagree.

      However, I can agree with that (if you mean so) there may be an ORIGINAL NEVER CREATED WORLD (so called MOTHER NATURE) or 0 WORLD (but that is) FILLED WITH ENERGY (and that should mean ALL kind of INFORMATION involving thought) (containing all knowledge about itself) WHICH CAN BE (systemically) ARRANGED!

      Why do you think this world is the 1 and that is UNIQUE?

      Why do you think the 0 is not so UNIQUE than the 1?

      About brains... (Neanderthal vs. Cro-Magnon: What's the Difference? Homo sapiens, Homo sapiens Sapiens, meta human, trans-human )... that is a huge topic ...(not all bunch of experts are arrogant :) ...

      "...Heaven forefend if the contraption decides to communicate with us using only some part of the language that was common to the ancient city of Atlantis prior to its becoming submerged,..."

      How do you mean this?

      Whom do you addresses to be 'Heaven' who have the power to prevent?

      IF

      What does it mean 'contraption'? Could you substitute with a similar word?

      DECIDES TO COMMUNICATE with us using

      (Do you think every one of us can understand the ancient Atlantean? And if not those won't be worth to live further? Let me remind you there were people before the Atlanteans and there are after them ...)

      What if this can't be happen so?

      I appreciate your answer

      Valeria

      Dear Ms.Gyenge,

      Language is a perfect meaningless abstraction. By using the words "unique" and once, I am stating as clearly as possible what reality am. Reality is neither ascribable nor is it describable. No part of unique reality is measurable for all measurements consist of supposedly identical units.

      Respectfully Ms. Gyenge, it matters not in the least to me whether or not you agree with me or not. I do not consider us to be rivals. I have contacted several textbook publishing companies advising them that all of the mathematics and physics books in the world will now have to be amended to include my theory. I have emailed The White House suggesting that by only teaching perfect abstractions, the education department is doing a huge disservice to all of the students. Nothing will happen, but at least I gave it my best shot.

      Dear Joe!

      I'm not a rival for you truly. Thanks for taking time of reading my essay and for our comments conversation.

      Best for you,

      Valeria

      2 months later

      Dear Anselm!

      Thank you for your comment.

      (I don't understand German unfortunately, but I translated it)

      Kind regards,

      Valeria

      Dear Valeria.

      I read with interest your profound essay. I think it is very important for the development of artificial intelligence. I note especially your conclusion :

      «The man is a complex universal structure of being who has an inherent capability to conceptualize his both non-physical and physical structure and all possible changes of his structure even he can direct his path what to do with his knowledge, thus equipped to create. "

      "Structure" - a key concept. About understanding well said Gregory Gutner "Event held in grasping structure means understanding" (G.Gutner Ontology mathematical discourse)

      Overcoming the «crisis of understanding» is possible only when the would be able to "grab " the fundamental structure of Reality, the fundamental structure of the Universe. Overview for secure management of the Future - Freedom, Faith, Hope, Love.

      I wish you success in the contest and research!

      Sincerely,

      Vladimir

      Dear Vladimir!

      Thank you for reading my essay and your profound admiration.

      I will be looking after and examination of your essay too, and the given links.

      I wish, all of us being in success achieving the real goal behind for which this essay contest invited us taking our mutual effort in sharing our thoughts in this very essential and crucial moment in the NOW!

      Kind regards,

      Valeria

      10 days later

      Valeria,

      I am having difficulty understanding your message, so please let me know if your message is any of the following:

      What I see as real,is reality for me; what you see as being real, is reality for you. Because you and I are different people, we see reality differently from each other and everyone else.

      It is impossible to simulate what to do and who should do it simply because Reality is different for different people.

      Am I understanding your message?

      Thank you,

      - Ajay

        Dear Ajay!

        Thank you fro reading my essay.

        Actually, you truly do not understand my message.

        In a nut shell: I distinguish two states about the 'Reality'. I suppose there is an 'Original reality' as an unconditionally given existence, may be called 'Natural order of things'. This reality contains the stratum of all living being both material (crystals, plants, animals) also non-material kinds may be called energy, information, consciousness, thoughts etc. At the apex of existence, I suppose there is an - original naturally arranged and cosmic Man- theologians label GOD-Man. WHO is composed of all both material and non-material inside and outside of his environment. This Man as the sum total of originally not created Nature can live his life either he knows about how all inside and outside him should work. This state may be called the - non-causality - going on its own course, a non intentionally steered evolution. However, owing to this Man also has an unconditionally given inherent capability for thinking, so he is always propelled to know about his inner and outer environment. That is the phase of his self-recognition. The latter - we should call CREATION - during which one would make simulations separately running from his natural living, somehow both may be synchronized, even one can research himself with real-time. The everlasting questions is - what to do with the knowledge one gains during his self scrutiny I supposed, and suggested a model how one (on solipsistic simulation way) could do researches with very himself, and how else ones might be involved unintentionally. Even, I gave a kind of else simulation technology where a team might be involved. I pointed out those simulation technologies not necessarily based on contemporary computer technology, and of what basics for our present us is not yet completely apprehended, but our recent technologies should exceed the original conception.

        You are right in that, "...we see reality differently from each other and everyone else...". However did you ever think; - You may be seeing a reality by your present focus which is a holographic projection of One who is actually researching about himself in several kind of roles and even information, thoughts, energy configurations, simultaneously being been some sort of material, genetic assortment and assemblage, a very separate real you even so a thread part of same self? I'd liken this watching several movies in a theater where there is only producer and actor in several roles and behind scenes, and his goal to decide - Whether what is worth to steer intentionally and how? Don't you put this question sometimes in your present personal life too?

        Did you see Matrix? Did you see, how Star Trek Holodeck can work?

        In my essay, I did not state anything being a truth! I only, examined a thought experiment, giving a probability question it is worth considering.

        I've not read over yet your essay but reading the abstract it seems me you advocates scientific development. So, I suppose you may be interesting further reading over some links regarding this possible creational technologies.

        The first one can give strong scientific answers to: As how many-worlds of thoughts real(M) alternate and can even so interconnect cyclically giving rebirth and reinterpreting the thoughts regarding to same theme but looking for a different but possible coherent view.

        What is the multiverse, and what is its significance?

        Lord Martin Rees: 'We May Be Living Inside A Computer Simulation' - Wait, What?

        Are You Living In a Computer Simulation?

        Historical Simulations and the Future of the Historical Narrative

        Historical Simulations - Motivational, Ethical and Legal Issues

        All is basically for to understand how the thinking process is working, and how it can express itself through a substantial medium being been both solid, material, physical, genetically coded, stored in a body and simultaneously living non-material, non-physical as the latter attributed to consciousness.

        The real question and MESSAGE however behind being put for my essay - Whether is the unconditional naturally given body implicating consciousness at manifold levels enough for us to grasp our everlasting existence or we need expand it toward for getting or creating a 'better us' resulting which consequences or risk? Which kind of technologies are applied for it or need to be? And who and why implement those with which kind of responsibility? Just that are under question, but not in far future or past, much rather all thoughts and several of manifestations both are realistically living in just right in time and space simultaneously in the now.

        Kind regards,

        Valeria

        5 days later

        Dear Aaron!

        Thank you for your comment. It is not clear for me from your present post put here, whether you have already read my essay, or not. I've not read your essay yet, but this post draws that to my attention, especially because you write your essay "..analyses the logic of the concept of a future-viewing machine, and then applies the insights gained to suggest some of the ways that such a technology could positively impact the future..". I'm really interesting about it. So, I'm about to read your essay.

        I can agree with your given rating scale, albeit it was given in the essay contest rules "..to rate the entries by the degree to which they are relevant and interesting, as more specifically described below, with 1/3 weight given to relevancy and 2/3 weight given to interest).

        Personally, I'm not interested to negotiate for any rating policies and self-motivation getting and giving ratings. I rated so much essay which was a minimum requirement and perhaps some more I kept relevant.

        I keep, much more important to consider those messages and mutually shared thoughts by this possibility (without any regard whether one is a physicist and FQXi member), what the several (each, but impossible to read over all of them) well-formulated essays and conversations express, and which we can read here regarding to a very crucial theme, not less than steering - OUR FATE! My truly only hope is, all of the messages those can convey will gain ground and a hearing at such a board-council level, who truly dispose of the satisfactory decision making without any self-interest! Not for giving financial help for anyone, but for truly resolving the problems. I feel the stake greater than negotiating for ratings at this NOW moment!

        High regards,

        Valeria