Orenda,

An original approach, and I recognised some key aspects of my own version of 'black sky thinking' which involves escaping our Earth centric 'blue sky is up' bounds. There is no 'up' in space so the 'black sky' is also beyond our feet.

Having negotiated a rather directionless stream of words (shortening 'black sky thinking' to BST would have helped!) things improved when we got to the practical and organisational applications. Personally I'd have liked more solid action and directions, but I do take an unusually direct pro-active view. For example I like the following but will tell you how I extend them;

"...strive to implement ..innovative strategies that will revolutionize the effectiveness and accuracy of technology."

"provide assertive, viable and self-explained solutions in an appropriate timing accessible to different levels of human kind understanding."

"The expansion of human knowledge, intervention and activities in the universe" ... "decoding the different expressions of reality."

I point out in my essay that we're going 'NOWHERE FAST' all the time we keep our divided understandings of nature (Quantum v Classical) which are incompatible. All the above means we must let go and study other models for a better one. I then, shockingly, present one that WORKS! giving logical and comprehensible QM via a classical mechanism. You don't need to understand the present spooky nonsense to see how it's removed. The WHOLE of science gets a quantum leap.

"Re-engineering educational models to shortage the time-space- waste of human capital to obtain maximized results, orientated to have an efficient use of the universe. Reduce the time-space investment of human capital in waste, irrelevant and negative information. "

Absolutely right. And also WRONG information! We need to EDUCATE for BSF to escape doctrine and parochial belief based thinking. I send Bob and Alice off into a black sky environment to show what it can do to free thinking.

Some don't seem to see the point or value of BST, or the results in my essay. I suspect you will, but do let me know (and do score it - it needs the points!) Well done for yours. It's an interesting project with good potential. If you agree it needs to be more tangible I could perhaps help if you wish.

Best of luck.

Peter

4 days later

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Dear Peter,

It is fascinating that as Human beings we eager to provide fields of development for all Human Kind instead of an ego centered solution. The Black Sky Thinking I developed is not trying to escape from Earth but to transform it into a an intelligent spiral of continuous communication with cosmos based on this: http://www.social-consciousness.com/2013/01/physicists-find-evidence-that-universe-is-conscious.html?m=1in The key point to make this feasible is to do it through Human Kind that in terms of Theosophy are capble of the "Verb" or in term of physics we are the source of autodirected "action". Black Sky Thinking will provide blue prints that will modify the way how the humanity actions will transform the cosmos (because that is already happening).

There is no directionless but the inclusion of expanded terms, our society is used to reduce the thinking to specific terms and we were taught to consider them as reliable but cosmos is a consecutive stream of happenings. I am seriously considering your suggestion of shortening the terms, I appreciate your kind suggestion.

The actions and directions of BST are definitely based in innovative technologies but based in the Immanent nature of cosmos. The basis of BST are laws based on genetic evolution, holographic world, wereable computing, big data, etc... All this will provide basis to determine the real timing of human kind evolution and based on this the systems that can provide a realistic, on time and intelligent solution of Human Kind Evolution. BST is knowledge, philosophy and intelligence taking assertive, on time and effective ACTION.

The puzzle that you point of nature fields that you consider incompatible (Quantum vs Classical) are correlated because is necessary the Quantum in order to get to the Classical. In this case I find that applies the explanation of the Cerejidos:

"Each hierarchical level was new once and emerged as the product of the interaction between the levels already existing and the environment, which also includes other individuals and other species. The new levels are less restrictive than the lower and therefore have greater scope for error and creativity. At this stage, the upper and newer seems to be intellectual one. The thought is threaded by the notion of time; why we include a description of the most fashionable models, those with whom psychoanalysis is to understand the structure and mode of operation of the psychic apparatus. " (book: El tiempo, la vida y la muerte).

If the universe can successfully, functional and effectively sheathe so diverse fields or dimensions, we may have an inherent capability to comprehend and use this through the higher levels of evolvement in cosmos: intellectual and spiritual. So in this case we share a vision in this and you developed the know how in your project.

I am intrigued to read how Bob and Alice will show how to free thinking. I think that is an inner work and most of all an inner desire tattooed in the DNA, but as you say that can also be inspired in people. I will for sure score your work and I am always interested in people with revolutionary and EFFECTIVE, ASSERTIVE and HUMANISTICAL THINKING. The BST I have developed it is focused on transforming into tangible through technology the intangible world.

Wish you good luck in the achievement of turning into reality your solutions and helping Human Kind to experience the happiness of being assertive, effective and useful in this reality.

Best wishes,

Orenda Urbano Hernández

    I read your essay with great interest and wish to read it again and give you a more detailed feedback. I admire that your solution is a new way of thinking and understanding of the Universe. Your find quote "The land will be as the men are" can be easily link with the more general principle of Hermes Trismegistus "That which is up is that which is down. That which is down is that which is up". I success of humanity involves great changes in our perception upon the Universe. I also admire the practical point in the Black Sky Thinking project meaning the list of needed specialists for economics, science and so on. To summarize your essay has a philosophical and a practical aspect both clear in its meaning.

    Best of luck on the competition and I hope to continue our correspondence

    Regards,

    Petio

    5 days later

    Mr. Hoover,

    The universe is at least in me because my body is made of atoms and follows different systems that are reality of the universe: chemistry, phisics, mathematical, biological, etc... and poetical that is one of the highest levels of expression of cosmos.

    Kindly,

    Orenda

    Orenda,

    I'm glad we agree on so many basics. Most importantly that nature is really 'one' and the inconsistencies between our classical and quantum descriptions and interpretations are purely due to our poor understanding.

    Thank you also for the post on my essay blog, I'm glad you agree the ten axioms. Nobody has challenged them though they challenge current assumptions, but few others have commented. I'm pleased I've now rated your essay and improved your score. I hope you'll remember to do mine if you haven't yet. Very best wishes for the future of BST, of course I do see the BB problem with black and blue!

    Peter

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    Dear Petio,

    I will answer you in your forum so you can see the answer.

    Thank you.

    Orenda

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