Essay Abstract

The hypothesis of tired light can be cast in terms of an elementary quantum of energy lost from a photon during each cycle. The uncertainty in time associated with the quantum of energy is the Hubble time. Given uncertainty at this cosmological scale, it is argued that complementarity between received photon energy and observed distant time dilation at the source overcomes the primary objection to tired light. Tired light would correspond to a flat pure dark energy model in the big bang. Measured supernova redshift and time dilation support this quantum interpretation of the redshift.

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Much of this essay amounts to obscure history and paths not taken in the pursuit of science. The impetus for my long interest in the cosmological redshift came from deriving the quantum which is the essay's subject some 50 years after Walther Nernst. I received a BMath from the University of Waterloo in 1970.

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Colin,

Quite an interesting essay. I had of course heard of "tired light" (the name almost explains itself) but I knew nothing of the concepts involved. Nor had I run across the quantum Hh before. While I have not argued either side of 'red shift' I have observed that this seems to be an unresolved issue, even now. So thanks for writing up the history, logic, math, and general overview as you have done. I found your essay well-written and fascinating. I invite you to read and comment on my essay.

Best regards,

Edwin Eugene Klingman

    Dear Edwin,

    Thank you for your kind comment. A universal quantum of energy Hh is an interesting and enigmatic possibility whose existence appears to be supported by supernova observations. I hope physicists today will be more inclined to investigate further than their predecessors.

    Best wishes,

    Colin

    5 days later

    Colin,

    Thanks for the interesting read. As you note in Objection 1, the argument against tired light is pretty strong, but that also relies upon having certainty regarding the luminosity of those super-novae since they are considered to be known candles.

    I cannot even imagine a photon with the wavelength equal to the size of the universe, but that way of thinking does let me get the concept. Energy falls to the lowest level and is then recycled.

    Perhaps you can answer a question ... Why is the following thinking not mentioned or discussed (at least that I can find)?

    Let us assume that the universe is a sphere of radius R and that the distance from the center is r. Let us also assume something similar to Hubble's Law as follows:

    (dr/dt) = c(r/R)

    At r = 0, dr/dt = 0. At r = R, dr/dt = c.

    Rearranging slightly gives

    (dr/r) = (c/R)dt

    If I use 13.82 billion light years (4237 Mega Parsec) as R and 299,792.458 km/sec as c, I get (c/R) = 70.75 (km/sec)/MegaParsec. The observed value for the Hubble constant is 67.80 (km/sec)/MegaParsec. So, a simple sphere of finite radius gets within 5% of the measured value. They can be made to match by making R a bit larger. Comments?

    Best Regards and Good Luck,

    Gary Simpson

      Dear Gary,

      Thanks for your comment. I see supernova data as a smoking gun in favour of quantum tired light and consistent with my argument for complementarity to counter Objection 1. The supernova luminosity vs redshift curve lies very close to where it would be expected for quantum tired light. Contrast this with the big bang which had to invent dark energy to explain unexpected observations.

      As to your question, your approach seems similar to some earlier thinking on the redshift being due to recession of distant galaxies.

      Best regards,

      Colin

      5 days later

      Hi Colin:

      You write

      "Black holes and an expanding universe stand out as absurd. Both arise from

      the mathematics of general relativity, and require extrapolations far beyond the

      range of known data."

      I am not sure what you mean by that. Are you referring not to black holes and an expanding universe but to the big bang and black hole singularities? I fail to see what is supposedly absurd about the expansion of the universe and black holes, both of with is extremely well confirmed by existing data.

      -- Sopie

        Hi Sophia,

        Thanks for your comment. In regard to your question, what I meant was that they are each individually absurd. Had I read Robert McEachearn's essay I might have used a softer word. He points out, using the example of "reductio ad absurdum" to which I refer, that mathematical language may be inappropriate when discussing physics.

        Let's just take the idea of an expanding universe which is the antithesis of my essay's theme. One has to follow the historical evolution of the big bang. The horizon and flatness problems of cosmological expansion were overlooked for 50 years until the idea of inflation was conceived to overcome these problems. The theory behind inflation requires access to boundless energy. That is where the theory crosses the line, going beyond what I consider reasonable.

        About eighty five years ago, your Pragmatic Physicist was faced with a choice to model the cosmological redshift: exponential decay of photon energy versus an expanding universe. It has taken the relatively recent advent of supernova observations to be able to make a choice on the basis of reliable data.

        Best regards,

        Colin

        Hi John,

        I see you have arrived at similar conclusions to Walther Nernst via your scalar field theory. Nernst thought of the ether as a heat sink. I find your explanation of the Cosmic Microwave Background very interesting because it is framed in terms of cells as sources and sinks. I will have to study this some more.

        Thanks for the links.

        Best regards,

        Colin

        Dear Joe,

        Your comment is encouraging. I might dispute some part of your quibble (I suspect stars can run into each other - improbable but not impossible) but we share a common viewpoint regarding mathematics and physics. Mathematical abstractions are in your words, "interesting, but completely unrealistic". These abstractions are interesting by virtue of the predictive utility of a given physical model. They are unrealistic because they are simplifications which, furthermore, can only be tested to finite accuracy.

        Having these reservations about the practical role of mathematics in physics does not diminish my interest in a more metaphysical interpretation of the theme of this contest which, in my opinion, comes down to a matter of intuition. Perhaps reality as we experience it is not enough. Perhaps our imagination requires abstract concepts to give us the illusion of understanding reality, as a child might enjoy a toy.

        Warmest regards,

        Colin

        5 days later

        Dear Colin,

        I read your essay with interest, because I too have been trying to find alternative interpretation of the 'cosmological red-shift'.

        I agree with you that the energy h H (The product of Planck-constant and Hubble's constant) has some deep significance.

        What I have found so far is: Energy of the inter galactic photons get branched out into gravitational potential energy part, and electrostatic potential energy part; and gravitational potential energy part gets subtracted from the photon's energy. As derived in a manuscript titled: "Some criteria for short-listing the cosmological red-shift's explanations", placed at:

        http://vixra.org/abs/1501.0193

        We need to find out the exact mechanism for this branching-out of energies.

        With my best regards,

        Hasmukh K. Tank

        N.B. I will start rating the essays after 15th of February, when most of the essays are posted.

        Dear Colin,

        I forgot to add one more interesting point, that: As explained in a paper by me, titled, "Wave-Theoretical-Insight into the Relativistic Length-Contraction and Time-Dilation of Super-Novae Light-Curves" (Advanced Studies in Theoretical Physics Vol-7, 2013) any mechanism, which can cause the cosmological red-shift, will also cause the time-dilation of super-novae light-curves. So, it is not an UN-surmountable difficulty. The paper is available at:

        dx.doi.org/10.12988/astp.2013.39102

        Please express your views.

        One more point comes to my mind, Dear Colin, that: If we want to propose a fresh explanation for the 'cosmological red-shift', then can we talk of 'Hubble-time' ? We should explain 'Hubble-time' first, and then find the UN-certainty in energy during this 'Hubble-time'. Please correct me, if I am making a mistake.

        Yours sincerely,

        Hasmukh K. Tank

          Dear Hasmukh,

          Thank you very much for your comments and the interesting links. We clearly share some skepticism about the big bang, and have investigated similar possibilities.

          I particularly like your illustration of supernova time dilation being related by Fourier transformation to the lowering of frequency in the redshifted photon. That is an intriguing possibility.

          Regarding your last point, the Hubble time has a specific meaning in expansion cosmology as the time since the beginning of the universe (although Hubble radius as used in the essay is not supposed to be the present radius of the universe). For tired light, I suppose you could start with the Hubble time as the time required for photon energy to decay by a factor of 1/e. For tired light, it seems easier to start with the energy lost per photon cycle, Hh, and then deduce the Hubble time from the uncertainty relation.

          Best wishes,

          Colin

          9 days later

          Dear Colin,

          Interesting essay, and to some extent I agree to your arguments about tired light. Also we need to consider the fact that explanations for some physical observations by math can be different, e.g. compare "post-Newtonian gravity and general relativity", also Einstein argued for point coincidences in this regard.

          Furthermore, if we consider general relativity for spacetime curvature around mass (stellar bodies) that causes gravitational lensing, then I would argue for the plasma or dust that exists around luminous stars, and this plasma or dust regardless of its charge would bend the electromagnetic wave as the density of the plasma gets higher when getting closer to the star, which in its turn causes refraction of the light. This was not even touched in general relativity and no corrections are considered either. This means that explaining a physical phenomenon by math doesn't necessarily tells us the whole story. This is also addressed in my article.

          Kind Regards

          Koorosh

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            Dear Koorosh,

            I am hopeful that a mission like LATOR (Laser Astrometric Test Of Relativity) will be able to provide guidance in considering the "truthiness" of competing gravitational theories which satisfy first-order tests. I expect general relativity will fail a second-order test, but as outlined in the Endnotes that does not necessarily mean the end of the theory if it can be suitably modified.

            I think LATOR's very high precision measurement of the deflection of laser light could be affected by the mechanism you suggest. I am not familiar with the technical details involved, but it would be unfortunate if the effect was significant. Good point. Definitely something to consider beforehand.

            Thanks for your interest.

            Colin

            5 days later

            Arranged measured thought-process which circumvents on the subject of quantised red-space light, which is an imposing interest.

            Great job!

            Sincerely,

            Miss. Sujatha Jagannathan

              8 days later

              Dear Sir,

              Though your essays is not exactly on the required topic, you have brought it in at the end. We thoroughly enjoyed your well written essay and like to suggest some extensions.

              Mathematics describes only the quantitative aspect of Nature - how much one quantity, whether scalar or vector; accumulate or reduce linearly or non-linearly in interactions involving similar or partly similar quantities and not what, why, when, where, or with whom about the objects. These are subject matters of physics.

              Time dilation, like length contraction, flow from SR. Relativity is an operational concept, but not an existential concept. The equations apply to data and not to particles. When we approach a mountain from a distance, its volume appears to increase. What this means is that the visual perception of volume (scaling up of the angle of incoming radiation) changes at a particular rate. But locally, there is no such impact on the mountain. It exists as it was. The same principle applies to the perception of objects with high velocities. The changing volume is perceived at different times depending upon our relative velocity. If we move fast, it appears earlier. If we move slowly, it appears later. Our differential perception is related to changing angles of radiation and not the changing states of the object. It does not apply to locality. Thus, length contraction is only apparent. Time dilation (including that noticed in GPS) is caused due to refraction caused by changing density of local medium (what you call tired light). Time dilation, like light, is density variant and not uniform everywhere. This affects red-shift data also.

              Still there is much confusion over the precise value of the Hubble Constant. The expanding universe concept was introduced to explain galactic red-shift. But now blue-shift and galactic mergers have also been confirmed. What if the measurements of the last sixties are also true? Further, it is linked to inflation. It is assumed that it is an open universe that is expanding since big bang 13.7 billion years ago. Ancient Indian astronomers give a much bigger date for it. What if the universe is closed? If you throw a pebble into a circular pond, the waves reach out to the boundary and then reverse. Ancient Indian astronomers described the evolution of the universe like that repeatedly, which can explain the current rate of 'expansion' without inflation. They believed that the universe is rotating on its axis with galaxies like planets around Sun. The orbits are all circular, but appear elliptical because of the moving center. Just like the planets appear to be receding at times to come close at other times, we may be seeing red-shift at some stage and blue-shift at other times. Thus, the galaxy rotation curve needs to be re-looked.

              All the objects in the universe radiate far more energy compared to the cosmic microwave background. The ancient Indians classified bodies into five categories based on albedo. According to that classification, the CMB is without reflectivity (ajyoti called Parameshthi). It is the universal background structure. It is well known that light is a transverse wave, which is background invariant, but which requires one point to be fixed (tied) to be generated. Sound is a longitudinal wave, which cannot travel without a dense medium. Electromagnetic radiation exhibits both characteristics and the intersection point of the electric and magnetic planes with the medium in the direction of motion (they called it agni-somaatmaka) shows up as photon. Since the background structure does not move, it does not radiate light. But the reflected waves from the big bang interact with each other, which leads to not only evolution of forces (15 types), but also all material formation. It should be noted that though proton and neutron both are said to consist of up quarks and down quarks, in reality, each is a pullulating mass of countless quarks, anti-quarks, and gluons. It is so messy that physicists cannot say exactly how it's most basic properties, such as its mass and spin, emerge from the tangle. We have written about these, dark matter and dark energy variously.

              Regards,

              basudeba