Does Quantum Weirdness Arise When Parallel Classical Worlds Repel?

Steve,

Well... yeh, but we aren't going to change human nature. Myself, I was one among what is called 'the bluejean revolution' that Ronald Reagan and my Dad hated so much, but so did all the big shots east of the Iron Curtain. And our generation produced some great tunes, and it changed the world. One of those songs goes; "Take it easy/ take it easy/ don't let the sound of your own wheels/ drive you crazy"

On occasion, there are competent people whom have studied enough to understand the questions posed here, and whom do not mistake posting as a validation or endorsement, nor are they posting out of a need for attention. Rather they actually have some significant thing to share, from which others can benefit in acquiring knowledge and a better understanding. I think we do ourselves more good to refrain from indulging those with personal agendas, and reserve comments for those made in earnest by individuals who have made the real effort to study, research, and condense complex subjects into concise statements of modest scope. 'Grand Designs' are the imaginings of spectators. It's a beautiful afternoon where I'm at, think I'll go out and not waste it. jrc

And if we made a global transparent project here on FQXI for the harmonisation of our main global problems.The solutions exist by adapted sciences,methods and universalism.We have the potential and the capacity to harmonise and catalyse , imrpove even our environments and the matters.The solutions are really possible.In ecology and substrates and composting and vegetal multiplication,I have already thought a lot about the global solutions for now and the future.Soon 10billions and we have so many problems.The energy, the water, the food, the jobs, the criminality, the corruption,the wars, the economy,the global social psychology,the religions,the governances and altruism ..........we could find the roads of harmonisation.What are the scientists ? just a job? ,what is the real meaning of a thinker, a searcher, a scientist? sciences community have a big responsability for this planet.Politicians and business men have shown us that it is not the solution.Perhaps it is time to give the power to universalists and scientists having concrete global solutions simply before the chaotical exponentials.It is not possible if we continue like now.We must change our global system and the governements must take their responsabilities.If not...............SHAOS INSTEAD OF HARMONY.Regards Jedis :)

I have seen John the future of life institute,it is relevant,they have also a responsability.Technology,inventions, évolutions,....all this is very intresting but if we don't solve our global problems, never thefuture humans shall can live correctly.It exists so many things possible considering our global human potential.We must even already think about our adaptation on Mars and in space with a enormous Wheel implying gravitation.compost and vegetalmultiplication are essentials for soils, vegetals and anaimals.We can increase the compost and the vegetal mass and so animal mass.Without these foundamentals, never we could live in space or on Mars.In all case we are obliged because soon the earth will be too small and even perhaps too much polluted or even too much chaotic considering the climate.We must find solutions now in fact John.Regards

I think that I understand what science is about quite well: both my school and university education being mainly maths, physics and chemistry (and most of my school and university education was funded by scholarships). Perhaps I understand the downstream implications of physics theories in a way that the adoring uncritical followers of physics don't.

Physics has been struggling for a hundred years to explain quantum mechanics. Only people who have never had science training could ever mistake the MIW or MWI theories for science: they are belief systems. Perhaps those who are uncritical of theoretical physics never noticed the hefty dose of explanatory narrative in these theories of reality, narrative that is NOT provable because it is not represented by equations or algorithms.

Going by the numbers, it seems that there is something about the male character that has a certain naïve fundamentalist/purist view of reality: e.g. the MIW and MWI adherents. I'm saying that seemingly, men can't face ACTUAL reality: subjectivity of information; experience of information; creativity of information. Seemingly due to problems with the male character, physics is currently NOT able to face up to the fact that reality is NOT 100% deterministic.

I think that ordinary people (unconsciously) understand science all too well: that's why they keep away in droves. They see the ivory-tower theorists, e.g. the MIW theorists, entranced and inspired by the beauty of human-created mathematical equations, instead of being entranced and inspired by the beauty of actual physical reality.

Of course all must eat at the same table, that said, if we continue we shall not have food to eat John !

All the problems Inside the sciences community have been enumerated.It is there that the point ofequilibrium, universal must be reached.The rest is vain it seemsto me humbly.Sciences have a responsability, and the monney, the notoriety and the pressions of team are sometimes a problem.It is simply an evidence.Competition sometimes is well, sometimes no.

One real observable Universe could only have one real physical observable aspect. The only real aspect you can verify by observation is SURFACE. You have a complete SURFACE including the SURFACE that covers your eyes. Everywhere you look with your SURFACE covered eyes, you will only ever see a plethora of seamlessly enmeshed varied colored flat SURFACE. The laws that govern the real Universe must be consistent. Only infinite SURFACE exists everywhere in the real observable Universe. There is no space. The only reason you can only see SURFACE is because it is always illuminated by an infinite non-SURFACE light. All of Science is utterly mistaken human conjecture concerning the invisible.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Joe,

In the thread above, I asked you a couple of relatively straight forward questions to which you gave a non-answer. I must therefore conclude that your ideas do not allow you to make any predictions and your ideas do not allow you to perform any calculations. Therefore, you are not presently doing science.

If it is any consolation, few scientists today are doing science either since the major ideas today are not testable. Given their poor example, it is little wonder that things are as they are.

Good luck developing your ideas to a point where they are science.

Regards,

Gary Simpson

Prince is dead. But all too alive are the MIW and MWI theoretical physicists (mainly men) telling us that everything that Prince did, every note he played, was 100% determined by nothing but laws-of-nature interacting with the environment (where the environment is itself 100% determined by laws-of-nature). These naïve physicists are telling us that all of reality is identical: they are saying that the murderer, the musician, the Nobel prize winner are all identically 100% victims of circumstances and 100% ruled by law-of-nature rules.

For 100 years now, reality has clearly been telling physicists that this is not the case. Reality has clearly demonstrated that it is NOT 100% deterministic. But the male dominated physics world is too frightened to accept the implications of a non-deterministic reality.

Gary,

Do you, or do you not have a complete skin surface? Does every piece of observable matter, be it natural like a tree, or be it fabricated like a chest of drawers made from a tree not have a complete visible surface? Is the law of reality not consistent throughout the real Universe. Then obviously, the real observable Universe consists of SURFACE. Surface is not put together mathematically, so why would I be stupid enough to show you useless calculations. The real Universe is not scientific. It is utterly simple. So why are you persisting to believe in complicated scientific codswallop.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Mr Fisher, please.Develop your ideas and reasonings.We don't understand nothing with your surface ,really.You know if you have things to say.Please develop.That has no sense Mr Fisher to always repeat these things.You confoundfor me ,the subjectivity and the objectivity spiritually speaking.

Steve,

Reality is not MY IDEA. Please understand that you have a complete surface that includes your eyes. Everywhere you look with your real surface covered eyes; you will only ever see a plethora of seamlessly enmeshed partial flat varied colored surface. Only observable infinite surface exists. There is no space. Nature provided that infinite surface. Hawking's silly contention that invisible nothing exploded 13 and three quarters of a finite billion invisible light year's ago in the big bang singularity may be scientifically acceptable, but it is utterly unrealistic. It is now up to you. Do you want to continue to believe in the fabulous errors of science, or will you please join me in the promulgation of revolutionary reality.

Joe Fisher, Realist

You see when you want that you can develop a little :) a phenomenon.

Can I ask you several questions?

1 how do you interpret the begining of the physicality? There is the hypothetical BB ,personally I prefer a gravitational spherical expansion.But You you think how about this begining?

For the space ,I agree space does not really exist,matter and energy only exist.

2 for me a surface is a 2D,and we live in a 3D, of course we have 4D models(Minkowski,Lagrangian.....) for the metics and others calculations of evolution,but our 3D is essential even to see the things,you speak about our eyes like a surface,but in fact it is not really a surface.So my question is simple ,why you insist on this surface like if it was a scientific revolution?Convince me Mr Fisher ?Regards

Steve,

Surface is infinite. It had no commencement. Surface is unified; therefore, it has no finite dimension or finite duration, or finite predictability.

Joe Fisher Realist

I beleive that you interpret spiritually the luminerous aether.That said the finite systems are essential for the calculations of our universal proportions.All finite system is coded in its uniquenss serie.We can calculate the mass of an aton of hydrogen considering the mendeleev table.An atom is a finite system with its properties.You are a finite systems encoding furthermore Mr Fisher.You are coded in your singularity.You have youe own fréquences and own finite serie of particles and codes ofevolution,gravitational.A Star, an adn, a planet,a particle,....All mass is a finite system with its intrinsic coded.Let's take the evolution.......H ......CNO......H20 HCH H2C2 CH4 NH3 primordial soap......+Energy time by encodings......proteins,amino acids .....ADN..........UNICELLS ........PLURICELLS........fishs.....Reptilians....Lemurians....Mammalians.........Primates.....Hominids.....All these créations are finite systems encoding and evolving.Universe is also a finite system.The infinity has many meanings.It appears with our adds or other mathematical exrapolations.The infinity is also this infinite entropy above our physicality.The infinity can be also in the pure imagination.But our physicality utilises finite systems with coded and properties.The problem it seems to me is that you confound simply this infinite entropyabove our physicality in inserting it in this physicality.I see an interesting spiritualanalyse, that said the lunminerous aether has several problem due to c and the distances.So the instantaneity with this entropical God if I can say cannot appear with this luminerous aether.The gravitational aether is more rational considering particles of gravitation speeder than photons.We can indeed so subjectivelly speaking that all is infinite because we are created by this infinity above our physical universe.But we cannot insert this infinity in our calculations for the proportions.The energy is infinite indeed but relativelly speaking.What do you think ?Regars

Steve,

Visible surface am infinite and unified. Surface has never contained any finite invisible atoms. Visible infinite surface was never created by an invisible God.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Is anybody minding the store? I haven't been able to pull up an edit tab for a month, there are several posts listed in the sidebar of recent posts that don't appear in the body of comments, and I forget how long its been since there has been an addition of a topic to the list in the dropdown window from the fqxi icon on my taskbar. Has attrition set in and nobody wanting to take over the thankless unpaid time consuming task of entertaining delinquents on the fqxi blogosphere?

I know who are these persons hacking my net and pc.They play, I play also.The most impressing for them is that they didn't know my realpersonality.Irritating for tham, becuse their strategy of discriminations is not really a success.So now for their notoriety, they don't want that I am recognized,logic for their poor international credibility.Just a poor team of frustrated thinking that they are more skillings than others,a big vanity, that is all and poor mathematical copies.Well thei are very bad Fallen because they must kill me.But they aren't thinkers after all,just business man frsutrated wanting what they want.I play with them on LinkedIn,My sciences eat yours at the belgian breakfast.You are against me, but I have also people with me.Ironical no? and what your hate increases ?Logic.....Kill me ;it is better.

dear Fqxi and the future of lifes institute and MIT.These persons hacking my net and linkedin are irritating.Pay attention around you, sometimes persons aren't really general scientists but business men with an enormous vanity.This problem is a big problem.I beleive that it exists several scientists or a team from holland which implies problems.I will not stop, so I tell thzm that I will not stop my transparent publications and reasonings.FqxI please check well the international sciences system.Long life FQXi ,I am with you me and you shallnot be deceived, I don't search the money or others, I just want tolearn more, I have learnt a lot here on thiswonderful fqxi Platform.I have had in the past paranoiac comportments due to these hackers but I am better now:) Regards from Belgium.