Collapsing Physics: Q&A with Catalina Oana Curceanu

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3. INFINITY, WHICH MEANS "NOTHING ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING", IS EQUIVALENT TO TIMELESS, SPACELESS EXISTENCE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL IS ONE AND ONE IS ALL SINCE REALITY IS ONE AND ALL. IT THEN FOLLOWS THAT THE SYNTACTIC EMBEDDING OF REALITY'S ALL IN ONE EQUIVALENCE GOES ON INFINITELY AND FINITELY. REALITY IS INFINITE WHILE WE ARE FINITE. THEREFORE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND THE VAST, OPEN UNIVERSE USING ANYTHING BUT OPEN SETS AND OPEN INTERVALS WHICH ARE ISOMORPHIC TO INFINITE STRUCTURES IN MATHEMATICS. A FINITE STRUCTURE ON THE OTHER HAND CAN BE DESCRIBED AS A CLOSED SET. THEREFORE WE MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE UNIVERSE IS A FINITE SPACETIME STRUCTURE USING OUR LIMITED IMAGINATIONS IN WHICH WE ARE SPECIAL AND LOVED BY IT. BUT THE JOURNEY THROUGH SPACETIME CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT ENDLESS BECAUSE A BOUNDARY CANNOT BE MADE UP OF ANYTHING BUT MATTER AND ENERGY AND IS THEREFORE ANYTHING BUT REAL.

THEREFORE THE ACTUAL FREEDOM WEBSITE IS CORRECT IN STATING THAT THE HUMAN PSYCHE OR EXIST-ER IS BUT A ROMANTIC DREAM AND THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL WORLD THAT EXISTS EXTERNALLY AND THAT WHAT WE SEE WITH OUR SENSES COMES FROM SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE SEEN FROM WITHIN AND IS THEREFORE NOT OBJECTIVE, CREATING AN ILLUSORY "REALITY". HENCE EVIL, THOUGH IT MAY BE WRONG, IS SIMPLY MALICE. AND THE RECEIVING END OF THAT, VICTIMIZATION, AND ITS RESULTING SORROW, IS ALL PART AND PARCEL OF THIS DREAM. HENCE, WE CAN NOW CONCLUDE THAT WHAT WE DEFINE AS SPECIAL, IS NOT REALLY SPECIAL, BUT WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL, IS THE PARADISE OF THE ACTUAL. THEREFORE WE CAN IGNORE THE UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE AND EVERYTHING WITHIN THE HUMAN PSYCHE UNTIL IT IS RENDERED INSIGNIFICANT AND IRRELEVANT BY FOLLOWING THE PSYCHIC MAZE UNTIL WE OURSELVES BECOME NOTHING BUT PHYSICALLY ANIMATE BODIES CARRYING OUT THE BUSINESS OF BEING ALIVE AND FREE TO GREET LIFE WITH A SMILE AND THUS A GRANDEUR, DEFEATING MASS DELUSION WITHIN OURSELVES. COMMON SENSE REIGNS SUPREME FINALLY.

REALITY CHANGES WITH TIME (topic from sciforums)

John Archibald Wheeler sought a more fundamental reformulation of General Relativity than the Arnowitt, Deser, and Misner formalism that posits a dynamic geometry whose curvature changes with time. This has come to be known as Wheeler's Geometrodynamics.

This assumes that spacetime is not immaterial, but subject to warps, curves and twists. This makes perfect sense to me. Because if space in reality were actually an immaterial vacuum then massive objects would be unable to be subject to the laws of gravitation, since nothing would be held in place nor influence another thing other from afar (action-at-a-distance). Which would make the laws of nature incredibly nonsensical. Therefore, spacetime is not nothingness, but subject to causation and interaction. Gravitation is not a long-range mysterious, unseen force.

The elementary building blocks of matter are the same as they were at the beginning of the Big Bang as they will be at the end. Where if the universe were to have a boundary or an edge to it, it would be anything but matter and energy, duh, and hence not something that was artificially constructed. I read somewhere that the boundary does not consist of anything material, and that if one were to reach the edge, it would lead back to the other side as though it went on infinitely. A strange loop.

Language and grammars change with time as well. Look up production rules. Where symbol (syntactic variable) substitution can be recursively performed to generate new grammars, u-->v.

As we evolve or devolve, depending on conditions, both within and without, phenomenal objects appearing to perception are received by noumenal consciousness which then creates the interpretation of those objects, but not before they are perceived. Hence what you believe you perceive and what you perceive you believe. All of these things change in time.

If all things are subject to erosion and entropy (except for Bohm's wholeness and the implicate order and/or nothingness) then nothing is timeless and eternal, hence the universe would have a finite existence and death would not be illusory. This brings in to question Quantum Mechanics, retrocausation and the Many Interacting Worlds Theory. Does anyone have an expert opinion on this?

Also, if God is real then He too is subject to change in time. But this leads to a paradox, since if God were real He could not interfere with space, time and object. So God must assume both itself and not-itself. Both existence and non-existence in order to intervene. A true paradox of inconceivable proportions.

Once you have a universal quantum force like aethertime, it is a lot easier to deal with the event horizon of a black hole. In fact, with quantum gravity there are incipient black holes at the center of any matter body larger than about six Jupiters. So all stars have a boson matter center that is a black hole.

Black holes are not really the voracious singularities of spacetime but rather just the inevitable boson matter destiny for all fermion matter in the shrinking aethertime universe. With a quantum gravity like aethertime, the mechanics of relativity in spacetime are just a convenient representation for the simpler underlying reality of matter and action. For black hole event horizons and at the Planck limit, you need quantum gravity to predict action.

So black holes do not really need a supernova to form...black holes just need lots of mass. That is why the mass of a galaxy stabilizes a supermassive black hole. The spin of a black hole does have a very important role in quantum gravity since black hole spin stores all of the information of accretion.

Dark matter and dark energy are simply manifestations of exchange of quantum gravity. Since stars emit large amounts of mass as light and neutrinos, that star matter decay couples the motions of inner and outer stars of a galaxy. Inner stars slow down while outer stars speed up and a galaxy therefore rotates at a constant velocity without the need to invoke a cold dark matter halo to keep outer stars bound.

It would appear that just about any kind of quantum gravity would show this kind of quantum exchange, but there would need to be decoherence for quantum gravity. Dark energy has a similar explanation but at a much greater scale of galaxy clusters and superclusters. The only event horizon is that that defines the limits of the universe and of what we can know.

Thus in billions more years, people will still look up in the sky and see the same CMB light that represents our common creation. Of course, the universe will be a very different place in a few billion years from what it is today. The Andromeda galaxy will likely have merged and that will be quite a spectacle that humanity will miss.

Steve,

The real observable Universe consists ONLY of unified visible infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. There have never been any invisible finite atoms swirling around in invisible finite space in the real Universe. There have never been invisible finite black holes. Infinite visible surface is not powered by invisible finite quantum force.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Nicholas,

Albert Einstein's equation e=mc² was incorrect. Einstein was essentially stating that a finite amount of invisible energy was exactly equal to a finite amount of invisible mass multiplied by the constant speed of a finite amount of invisible light passing through a finite invisible vacuum tube multiplied by its finite invisible light self.

The real observable Universe consists only of unified visible infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. There have never been any invisible finite atoms swirling around in invisible finite space in the real Universe.

Please note that there are no invisible finite "building blocks of nature" There is only visible infinite surface. Infinite surface was not created by an invisible God.

Joe Fisher, Realist

The real observable universe consists of matter and action and both are finite and bounded from above and below and quantum. There are no infinite visible surfaces and there is no infinite non-surface light.

In fact, there are neither infinities nor singularities in the finite universe except where they belong at the boundary beyond the CMB. However, people conjure up infinities, infinitesimals, and singularities all of the time. Sometimes singularities are useful for predicting the action of matter objects and sometimes singularities are blind alleys where people spend their entire careers.

Sometimes singularities and infinities are just loose notions that people have that seem to make sense to them but to no one else in the universe...such is life...

Hi ,

I don't understand why people wants to rest in our standard model.I can understand that allmust eat at the same table and that the works of thinkers are important.But we must evolve and imrpove their works in adding the good solutions.The problem Mr Agnew is that we must find relevances .The aim is not to repeat course of universities or pappers.The aim is to go more far in finding new roads.I beleive that you make a big error in insisting on bosons Mr Agnew.You cannot found the gravitation and the dark matter and the real nature of BH with bosons.It is not a supermega star you know these supermassive BH central to galaxies.That has no sense.The works of Hawking are releva,t because they analyse just at this bridge.A BH is not a singularity, its quantum code yes.It is totally different Mr Agnew, hope you see the subtil difference respecting the gravitational stable codes which are not baryonic furthermore.The events horizons can permit to analyse the comportments of bosons indeed at this bridge.Their comportments can help to see what are these BH really.But we cannot be sure still, my theory is hypothetical like many reasonings and these BH needs an explaination.It iw what ? a whormhole behind ?a door ? a SUPERSTAR absorbing all due to its mass ? A Spatiotemporal door? Let's be serious there.These BH need a shape, I see only one solution, the sphere.Now these BH central togalaxies are in all galaxies and they have several properties and rules it seems tome.We can say what we want,these BH are a reality and they must be explained.You know Mr Agnew if God exists , this infinite entropy above our physicality in imrpovement.You think really that stars and standard model and electromagnetism are the only one Tools to imrpove our universe?That has no sense in fact.We are travellers from Stars, we are catalysers of matters and energy.We are gardeners of This universal sphere Mr Agnew.c is important for bosons photons it permits to see and have our actual standard model but it is just a step.You think really that God has created only photons ? And so we cannot travel Inside this sphere between stars?It isjust that we are youngs simply and it is wll like that Mr Agnew, already that we have difficulties toharmonise thisplanet earth ? so why travel at this moment?God has well made the things,we are not ready still to utilise this energy.If these BH exist there are reasons, if darkmatter exist there are reasons, if we search still this gravitation, there are reasons.God does not play at dices and the codes are gravitational from this cosmological singularity.It is the only one singularity for our cosmological scales and this central sphere BH is connected gravitationally by its gravit aether with all central quantum BH ,they are singularities coded by this cosm singularity.It is important to see the difference in this reasoning.If we analyse the CMB it is still a bosonic reasoning.We must go more far Mr Agnew at all scales, qyant or cosmol.The infinity is just by add and is above this physicality,the systems are finite Inside this physicality, logic due to singularities cited above.Finite but in evolution on an irreversible entropical gravitational Arrow of time.The Universe is deterministic and possesses intrinsic laws more than our simple actual analyses.Best Regards

Steve,

All matter has a unified observable infinite surface. You have a complete surface including your eyes. No matter in which direction you look, you will only ever see a plethora of seamlessly enmeshed flattish shaped varied colored surface. Imagine if you will a cannonball and an inflated toy balloon lying side by side on your front lawn. You have measured the seeming finite physical dimensions of the cannonball and the balloon, yet, as you approach them, you will see that their surface appears to grow greater at the same rate of growth. If you retreat from the two surface spheres, both surfaces shrink. Your surface can only retreat along a physical surface, so all surface must be unified and INFINITE. Real light cannot have a finite surface.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Hello Mr Fisher,

I try really to encircle your line of reasoning.All surface you say must be unified and infinite.I have really difficulties to accept this.The finite series are essential.I beleive strongly that it is due to an infinite aether luminerous in your reasoning where the infinite is connected with all finite systems.If the luminerous aether is not really infinite but the real infinite aether is the gravitational aether from the central singularity in my line of reasoning.The photonic sphere aged of 13;7 billions years is not infinite because the main codes are not from a super mega star , central to our universe.The infinite surface is gravitational Mr Fisher at this wall separating our universe and the physicality, the universal sphere in my model.The universal sphere is not a photonic sphere, this phot sphere is Inside.That is why we must even restudy really our universal age because we cannot consider only photons for our universal laws.The photons are just a tool,they are not the foundamental bricks of evolution but gravitation yes.Real light has so a finite sphere in increasing but the gravitational sphere is different because we tends towards infinity at these singularities.One cosmologic and the quantum singularities.All islinked but with relativity.Take care Jedi ofthe sphere........We are finite but our entropy is infinite.:)

Hi Steve, I think it is good that you differentiate the photons in the environment from the matter of the universe and identify a problem in only considering the photons. It is important, as I see it, because photons when received can be used to form an image of the universe. Giving two kinds of universe -the observed image and the unobserved material universe.

I think it is good that you have given Joe's ideas consideration but I have found that they are not founded on reasoning that can be debated but his own 'indisputable 'belief.

When talking about the cannon ball and balloon he is talking about outputs of the human visual system and yet his 'model' does not permit functioning of that system as it does not permit the movement of photons that are the inputs to the system.

Hi to both of you?

The photons are for coded by gravitation.They are like a fuel in fact.They decrease their velocities in beeing encoded in our nuclei respecting the evolution of matter energy.The photons are not all the same indeed because they are coded.But the problem witha lot of scientists is to consider the photons like primordial codes form God.I see differently because photons are not only one particles of evolution.W must explain dark matter, grvitationa and BH.Insisting on photons is not the solution to encircle the obserrvable universe and the entire universe.I prefer to speak about a known universe and an unknown universe.We know the effects of photons and it is a tool.But it is not sufficient to understand our gravitation.The gravitation is an universal equilibrium correlated for me with the natural rotations of sphères,quant and cosm.This force is not electromagnetic,the sphères turn not due to thermo and speciaal relativity.That has no sense in fact.It is a big problem to insist on photons instead of particles of gravitation.Because it is like resting in a prison simply.God does not play at dices and evolution permits to see the steps towards our singuarities coded gravitationally.It is there Mr Fisher that you have made an error considering God like an infinite light.It is more than that, so the real infinite surface are gravitational and not luminerous.The physicality is a specific system with intrinsic universal laws and domains respecting the finite series.Gravitation tends to infinity .....Not light in fact .Regards

Dear Joe, your description of how the surface is seen to change with relative motion of the observer tells me that you re talking about a manifestation produced by the visual system of that observer. Whether you recognize it as such or not. You are using sight in your argument and therefore that process of vision has to be allowed. I am not trying to make sense of invisible 'codswallop', it is not codswallop to me but makes sense as it explains the phenomena investigated by physics experiments and biological processes. Your proposal lacks the equivalent explanatory power and can not be supported by logical arguments. So I humbly suggest you go back to the drawing board.

Finite matter and finite action are what define the universe and it is just from a large number of finite particles that a surface or a line or a volume appear infinitely divisible.

Infinite divisibility and infinite extent are very useful approximations that allow us to predict many actions of reality quite well. However, the universe is not made up of infinitely continuous matter.

Discrete photon exchange is the way charge works and photon emission is how we see objects. We measure objects with the matter spectrometer of consciousness and use that information to predict object action. However, our spectrometer does not record instantaneously but rather takes data over a moment of thought.

During that moment of thought, we entangle with the object's future and that entanglement means that we cannot ever precisely know the future since we become a part of the object and therefore a part of its possible futures. This also means that any choice we make is neither absolutely certain nor predictable. This is the essence of free will...

Hi Steve, you do not seem to be differentiating object in external reality ( as you say seen by photon emission ) and the information received from that, processed by the CNS ( you say we become a part of the object ). The information in the brain and the external object made of atoms seem categorically different to me although you are referring to both as 'the object'. I agree that the manifestation produced and experienced is affected by the biological processes by which it comes into being. However the object in external reality is unaffected by what is going on inside the observer. Its future is independent of the processes of observation.

Georgina,

One real observable Universe only has one observable infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light Observable infinite surface is whole. No part of it can seem to change due to the invisible relative finite motion of an invisible observer. It is not my idea. It is real and you can prove it to yourself by looking. Please stop repeating nonsense about the finite logic of the invisible. Newton and Einstein failed to notice that the surface of all objects travels at the same speed whether they are at rest or whether they are in motion. The quantum quacks that claim that two invisible particles scooting through invisible space can occupy the same invisible position are incorrect.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Steve,

There is no such a thing as "finite matter." All observable matter, whether it is solid, liquid, or vaporous is part of one unified infinite surface.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Joe,

can you try to address the conundrum that you say "It is real and you can prove it to yourself by looking." and yet you do not have a belief that permits seeing to occur. Joe, with respect, I do not repeat nonsense but use concepts and ideas that are useful to me because of their explanatory power. What I am proposing works with the biggest areas of classical and quantum physics but addresses those parts that have paradoxes,indicating something is not quite right in the understanding of the the theory and experimental results.

Object external reality is what we can agree about. Our spectrometers Ias consciousness) measure the light of objects and with similar spectrometers of others, we measure similar matter spectra. We can objectively agree about those matter spectra.

However, the correlation length of photons can be quite long and a single photon can connect us with an object in a two-way recursion. If we are 6 ft away from an object that is 6 ns time delay and many photon emissions are longer than 6 ns and a photon emission longer than 6 ns means that photon actually connects us with the object and vice versa.

In this case, for a short time we are connected with the reality of that object and so what is going on inside of us affects the object as well as what is going on inside of the object. That is just the way that the universe works and sort of at the root of uncertainty and entanglement.

Although many people like to think of space and time as infinite continuums, all of the universe is actually made up of discrete particles and discrete action. There are no singularities and there are no infinities.

And when we are entangled with a object, there are probable futures but not absolutely determinate futures.

Steve, I don't understand the connection you posit with the object once you start talking about thought. The sensory cells are stimulated by whole photons not part photons. So a photon in flight between object and observer is not information within the observer. Not yet a part of thought.I can accept that there are visible light photons emitted from the observer too that can affect a near object and if very close and thermal radiation emitted by an observer might affect the very near object. I don't have reason to believe that internal thought processes are directly producing an effect on the external object. You say that "That is just the way that the universe works and sort of at the root of uncertainty and entanglement." What actual evidence do you have of that 'magical' proposition?