Georgina,

In 2013, the National Science Foundation provided researchers at the Physics Department of the University of California and the Kavi Institute with a grant of $1.32 million to examine the accuracy of Einstein's Theory of (invisible) Relativity: General and Special. The researchers reported that Einstein was correct. I have a valid ORCID. Einstein was utterly wrong. I should not be "resting" for being right. You ought to be supporting me in at least asking Professor Max Tegmark why he will not answer me. You have had no problem answering me, why is he so ignorant?

Joe Fisher, Realist

The Lisa Pathfinder at 145 days mission has returned its first paper after 55 days of science and it shows very low noise...except an unexplained bump at low frequency.

It is very nice to see some real data from the L1 saddlepoint for the two 2 kg Pt/Au cubes. FQXI should really do an article on this paper and more data is coming. The spacecraft is 475 kg and follows one 2 kg cube and then measures the noise for the other cube as it dephases from the followed cube.

They measure 5e-15 m/s2/sqrt(hz) until about 0.6 mHz, which is something happening about every 27 minutes or so. The noise jumps to 1e-14 and then they do not yet report anything longer than about 3 hours or so.

Unless they can get to at least six months or so, they will not see aethertime decoherence, which also shows up at about 1e-14 or so, but with the frequency of a year. There is a dc offset that they throw out but already in the paper, they mention the possibility of a very small variation in G...which of course should not be. No experiment has ever been able to measure G with such precision over time.

    Hello Mr Agnew,

    I post here your answer ,thanks for these developments, it is interesting about the recycling of informations.There is a beauty to aethertime gravity where it is the periods of quantum orbits that scale all force.

    Steve Dufourny replied on Jun. 3, 2016 @ 16:31 GMT as "I forgot this thread, thanks for your answer Mr Agnew.It is a beautiful appraoch towards this gravity,we search it after all."

    Instead of force being body-centered and 1/r^2 with a singularity at r=0, aethertime force is action-centered with a quantum period as 1/tau^2. Since a quantum orbit always has a finite period, the singularities of space and time do not actually exist. Spacetime singularities are the result of the limitations of the notions of continuous space and time. Aethertime changes the meaning of a black hole since it is the black hole finite quantum period that is what defines an event horizon.

    There is a decoherence time for all quantum phase including that of a black hole spin down. Unlike atomic time, decoherence time does not stop at an event horizon. The decoherence of the boson matter of a black hole spin down simply represents the destiny of all matter in the universe.

    In effect, the spin down of black holes encodes all of the information of the fermion matter and there is no information lost in a black hole. Black holes are a sink for the entropy and all of the information of accreted fermion matter, Therefore it is the spin downs of black holes that point the arrow of time and it is the spin downs of black holes that provide the order that characterizes the universe.

    These BH are fascinating.We know so few about them.We know how our electromagnetism and informations act near them.The works of Hawking about the event horizons are relevant.We see their compostments at these walls.I beleive strongly that these BH have rules, properties....and that their mechanics are different.They probably,for the supermassive BH central to galaxies,recycle the bosonic informations and fermionics.This matter that said seems not baryonic like dark matter.The relevance is to link with the serie of supermega BH towards thecentral BH of our universe.If the primordial informations come from this center.So the others are like adaptators, transfromators.They are essential for a galaxy these BH.I beleive really that dark matter is correlated.They produce this matter in logic but we cannot see it still due to our technological limits.If we don't analyse differently these BH, we shall not find the good method it seems to me humbly.The aether time of the photonic sphere and the aether time of gravitation seems different.Mr Agnew I am asking me really if the real age of our universe is correct.It seems that no considering this gravitation, BH and dark matter.The destiny of all informations is to be encoded, recycled, produced,imrpoved....But the puzzle is so complex.Informations are never lost in this line of reasoning.But how to find the good road to analyse this other universal newtonian mechanic.You can do it with the team at MIT ,Harvard....The correct mathematical method exists showing us this mechanic not relativistic.But frankly I search this method and I don't find it.I am limited in my Tools.It seems really that this gravitation is the main chiel orchestra connected with the agravitational primordial aether coming from this central BH of the universe.So bosonic informations and fermions ,stndard model,special and general relativity,heat and thermo are just a system Inside in y opinion.The stars and photons ....all these créations were necessary for this infinite entropy to create matters in evolution by encodings of particles produced by cosmological sphères.Heat ,thermo and photons are a tool for the créations and dynamics of evolutive minerals, animals and vegetals,but it is not all, these systems seems encircled really by BH and dark matter.Even our mass must be rethought like our universal age it seems to me.If my equation is correct E=mc²+ml² it could be interesting to develop it .Best Regards

    I AM WORKING ON A META-THEORY THAT TIES IN ALL MY WEED ACTIVATED SUPER-GENIUS LEVEL INSIGHTS FROM SINCE 2008-2016:

    Penny Kandial

    03/07/2008

    To: nickhosein@msn.com, oli_3_3@hotmail.com

    Hey Guys,

    How are you guys doing? What the fuck man...I came back to the ward with sour keys for ya'll and no one was there. Ya'll made a breakaway cause you knew I was coming back or what? lol

    Anyways, I got released last night so I wanted to touch base and say what's up to you guys.

    Holla back yo!

    P

    Nick Hosein 03/07/2008 ("High Brain")

    NOT BECAUSE YOU WERE COMING BACK.

    We must give up free will. It is a creation out of an illusion. A delusion.

    Every human physical specimen is an animate object. The paths of the physical body directly affects the paths of others.

    Free will is also disproven by mind altering drugs as what you put inside your body directly interferes with the thoughts and concepts and beliefs and decisions of the brain/body.

    You are never in control.

    Your control over yourself is an illusion. As you read "my"(note the quotes around the word "my" because I don't exist outside of observation) words. As you read you assume that I exist or still exist.

    If I assume I exist, it would be contradicting the purely deterministic physical universe because all (interacting or not) physical objects/including human bodies and minds are assumed to exist outside of observation. If my mind's "I" is an illusion, then "I" do not exist. You as well do not exist.

    THE EXISTENCE OF THE PHYSICAL BODY IS ASSUMED BY THE ILLUSION OF BEING SOMEONE.

    META-THEORY INGREDIENTS:

    1. WE KNOW THAT REALITY IS DETERMINISTIC ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE. AND THAT REALITY CAN BE REDUCED TO AXIOMS DUE TO REALITY BEING A PERCEPTION OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE IMPERCEPTIBLE IF IT WERE NON-AXIOMATIC/ NON-AXIOMATIZABLE. FOR EXAMPLE, PERCEPTION SAYS THAT AN APPLE FALLS FROM A TREE AT 9.8 M/S/S. NON-AXIOMATIZABLE UN-REALITIES ARE CONTRADICTORY. THUS FREE WILL IS AN ILLUSION.

    2. EVERYTHING IN REALITY INCLUDING REALITY ITSELF IS INTERACTING WITH ANOTHER THING OR ITSELF. AND SINCE REALITY IS LOGIC, LOGIC IS INDEED REAL. WHERE UNIVERSAL ALGEBRA PROVIDES THE SEMANTICS OF A FORMAL LANGUAGE, LOGIC PROVIDES THE SYNTAX. THIS MEANS THAT DETERMINISM AND CAUSALITY ARE AXIOMATICALLY AND SYNTACTICALLY REAL(ITY). WHERE SYNTACTIC EMBEDDING OR CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP DETERMINES THE BEHAVIOR AND COMPOSITION OF EVERYTHING PHYSICAL. IT IS THEREFORE AXIOMATIC TO SAY THAT REALITY IS REAL.

    3. INFINITY, WHICH MEANS "WHICH MEANS NOTHING ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING", IS EQUIVALENT TO TIMELESS, SPACELESS EXISTENCE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL IS ONE AND ONE IS ALL SINCE REALITY IS ONE AND ALL. IT THEN FOLLOWS THAT THE SYNTACTIC EMBEDDING OF REALITY'S ALL IN ONE EQUIVALENCE GOES ON INFINITELY AND FINITELY. REALITY IS INFINITE WHILE WE ARE FINITE. THEREFORE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND THE VAST, OPEN UNIVERSE USING ANYTHING BUT OPEN SETS AND OPEN INTERVALS WHICH ARE ISOMORPHIC TO INFINITE STRUCTURES IN MATHEMATICS. A FINITE STRUCTURE ON THE OTHER HAND CAN BE DESCRIBED AS A CLOSED SET. THEREFORE WE MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE UNIVERSE IS A FINITE SPACETIME STRUCTURE USING OUR LIMITED IMAGINATIONS IN WHICH WE ARE SPECIAL AND LOVED BY IT. BUT THE JOURNEY THROUGH SPACETIME CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT ENDLESS BECAUSE A BOUNDARY CANNOT BE MADE UP OF ANYTHING BUT MATTER AND ENERGY AND IS THEREFORE ANYTHING BUT VIRTUAL AND IMAGINARY.

    THEREFORE THE ACTUAL FREEDOM WEBSITE IS CORRECT IN STATING THAT THE HUMAN PSYCHE OR EXIST-ER IS BUT A ROMANTIC DREAM AND THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL WORLD THAT EXISTS EXTERNALLY AND THAT WHAT WE SEE WITH OUR SENSES COMES FROM SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE SEEN FROM WITHIN AND IS THEREFORE NOT OBJECTIVE, CREATING AND ILLUSORY "REALITY". HENCE EVIL, THOUGH IT MAY BE WRONG, IS SIMPLY MALICE. AND THE RECEIVING END OF THAT, VICTIMIZATION AND ITS RESULTING SORROW, IS ALL PART OF THIS DREAM. HENCE, WE CAN NOW CONCLUDE THAT WHAT WE DEFINE AS SPECIAL, IS NOT REALLY SPECIAL, BUT WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL, IS THE PARADISE OF THE ACTUAL. THEREFORE WE CAN IGNORE THE UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE AND EVERYTHING WITHIN THE HUMAN PSYCHE UNTIL IT IS RENDERED INSIGNIFICANT AND IRRELEVANT BY FOLLOWING THE PSYCHIC MAZE UNTIL WE OURSELVES BECOME NOTHING BUT PHYSICALLY ANIMATE BODIES CARRYING OUT THE BUSINESS OF BEING ALIVE AND FREE TO GREET LIFE WITH A SMILE AND THUS A GRANDEUR, DEFEATING MASS DELUSION WITHIN OURSELVES. COMMON SENSE REIGNS SUPREME FINALLY.

    (please delete previous post, this is an edit...)

    3. INFINITY, WHICH MEANS "NOTHING ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING", IS EQUIVALENT TO TIMELESS, SPACELESS EXISTENCE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL IS ONE AND ONE IS ALL SINCE REALITY IS ONE AND ALL. IT THEN FOLLOWS THAT THE SYNTACTIC EMBEDDING OF REALITY'S ALL IN ONE EQUIVALENCE GOES ON INFINITELY AND FINITELY. REALITY IS INFINITE WHILE WE ARE FINITE. THEREFORE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND THE VAST, OPEN UNIVERSE USING ANYTHING BUT OPEN SETS AND OPEN INTERVALS WHICH ARE ISOMORPHIC TO INFINITE STRUCTURES IN MATHEMATICS. A FINITE STRUCTURE ON THE OTHER HAND CAN BE DESCRIBED AS A CLOSED SET. THEREFORE WE MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE UNIVERSE IS A FINITE SPACETIME STRUCTURE USING OUR LIMITED IMAGINATIONS IN WHICH WE ARE SPECIAL AND LOVED BY IT. BUT THE JOURNEY THROUGH SPACETIME CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT ENDLESS BECAUSE A BOUNDARY CANNOT BE MADE UP OF ANYTHING BUT MATTER AND ENERGY AND IS THEREFORE ANYTHING BUT REAL.

    THEREFORE THE ACTUAL FREEDOM WEBSITE IS CORRECT IN STATING THAT THE HUMAN PSYCHE OR EXIST-ER IS BUT A ROMANTIC DREAM AND THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL WORLD THAT EXISTS EXTERNALLY AND THAT WHAT WE SEE WITH OUR SENSES COMES FROM SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE SEEN FROM WITHIN AND IS THEREFORE NOT OBJECTIVE, CREATING AN ILLUSORY "REALITY". HENCE EVIL, THOUGH IT MAY BE WRONG, IS SIMPLY MALICE. AND THE RECEIVING END OF THAT, VICTIMIZATION, AND ITS RESULTING SORROW, IS ALL PART AND PARCEL OF THIS DREAM. HENCE, WE CAN NOW CONCLUDE THAT WHAT WE DEFINE AS SPECIAL, IS NOT REALLY SPECIAL, BUT WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL, IS THE PARADISE OF THE ACTUAL. THEREFORE WE CAN IGNORE THE UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE AND EVERYTHING WITHIN THE HUMAN PSYCHE UNTIL IT IS RENDERED INSIGNIFICANT AND IRRELEVANT BY FOLLOWING THE PSYCHIC MAZE UNTIL WE OURSELVES BECOME NOTHING BUT PHYSICALLY ANIMATE BODIES CARRYING OUT THE BUSINESS OF BEING ALIVE AND FREE TO GREET LIFE WITH A SMILE AND THUS A GRANDEUR, DEFEATING MASS DELUSION WITHIN OURSELVES. COMMON SENSE REIGNS SUPREME FINALLY.

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    REALITY CHANGES WITH TIME (topic from sciforums)

    John Archibald Wheeler sought a more fundamental reformulation of General Relativity than the Arnowitt, Deser, and Misner formalism that posits a dynamic geometry whose curvature changes with time. This has come to be known as Wheeler's Geometrodynamics.

    This assumes that spacetime is not immaterial, but subject to warps, curves and twists. This makes perfect sense to me. Because if space in reality were actually an immaterial vacuum then massive objects would be unable to be subject to the laws of gravitation, since nothing would be held in place nor influence another thing other from afar (action-at-a-distance). Which would make the laws of nature incredibly nonsensical. Therefore, spacetime is not nothingness, but subject to causation and interaction. Gravitation is not a long-range mysterious, unseen force.

    The elementary building blocks of matter are the same as they were at the beginning of the Big Bang as they will be at the end. Where if the universe were to have a boundary or an edge to it, it would be anything but matter and energy, duh, and hence not something that was artificially constructed. I read somewhere that the boundary does not consist of anything material, and that if one were to reach the edge, it would lead back to the other side as though it went on infinitely. A strange loop.

    Language and grammars change with time as well. Look up production rules. Where symbol (syntactic variable) substitution can be recursively performed to generate new grammars, u-->v.

    As we evolve or devolve, depending on conditions, both within and without, phenomenal objects appearing to perception are received by noumenal consciousness which then creates the interpretation of those objects, but not before they are perceived. Hence what you believe you perceive and what you perceive you believe. All of these things change in time.

    If all things are subject to erosion and entropy (except for Bohm's wholeness and the implicate order and/or nothingness) then nothing is timeless and eternal, hence the universe would have a finite existence and death would not be illusory. This brings in to question Quantum Mechanics, retrocausation and the Many Interacting Worlds Theory. Does anyone have an expert opinion on this?

    Also, if God is real then He too is subject to change in time. But this leads to a paradox, since if God were real He could not interfere with space, time and object. So God must assume both itself and not-itself. Both existence and non-existence in order to intervene. A true paradox of inconceivable proportions.

      Once you have a universal quantum force like aethertime, it is a lot easier to deal with the event horizon of a black hole. In fact, with quantum gravity there are incipient black holes at the center of any matter body larger than about six Jupiters. So all stars have a boson matter center that is a black hole.

      Black holes are not really the voracious singularities of spacetime but rather just the inevitable boson matter destiny for all fermion matter in the shrinking aethertime universe. With a quantum gravity like aethertime, the mechanics of relativity in spacetime are just a convenient representation for the simpler underlying reality of matter and action. For black hole event horizons and at the Planck limit, you need quantum gravity to predict action.

      So black holes do not really need a supernova to form...black holes just need lots of mass. That is why the mass of a galaxy stabilizes a supermassive black hole. The spin of a black hole does have a very important role in quantum gravity since black hole spin stores all of the information of accretion.

      Dark matter and dark energy are simply manifestations of exchange of quantum gravity. Since stars emit large amounts of mass as light and neutrinos, that star matter decay couples the motions of inner and outer stars of a galaxy. Inner stars slow down while outer stars speed up and a galaxy therefore rotates at a constant velocity without the need to invoke a cold dark matter halo to keep outer stars bound.

      It would appear that just about any kind of quantum gravity would show this kind of quantum exchange, but there would need to be decoherence for quantum gravity. Dark energy has a similar explanation but at a much greater scale of galaxy clusters and superclusters. The only event horizon is that that defines the limits of the universe and of what we can know.

      Thus in billions more years, people will still look up in the sky and see the same CMB light that represents our common creation. Of course, the universe will be a very different place in a few billion years from what it is today. The Andromeda galaxy will likely have merged and that will be quite a spectacle that humanity will miss.

      Steve,

      The real observable Universe consists ONLY of unified visible infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. There have never been any invisible finite atoms swirling around in invisible finite space in the real Universe. There have never been invisible finite black holes. Infinite visible surface is not powered by invisible finite quantum force.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

      Nicholas,

      Albert Einstein's equation e=mc² was incorrect. Einstein was essentially stating that a finite amount of invisible energy was exactly equal to a finite amount of invisible mass multiplied by the constant speed of a finite amount of invisible light passing through a finite invisible vacuum tube multiplied by its finite invisible light self.

      The real observable Universe consists only of unified visible infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. There have never been any invisible finite atoms swirling around in invisible finite space in the real Universe.

      Please note that there are no invisible finite "building blocks of nature" There is only visible infinite surface. Infinite surface was not created by an invisible God.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

      The real observable universe consists of matter and action and both are finite and bounded from above and below and quantum. There are no infinite visible surfaces and there is no infinite non-surface light.

      In fact, there are neither infinities nor singularities in the finite universe except where they belong at the boundary beyond the CMB. However, people conjure up infinities, infinitesimals, and singularities all of the time. Sometimes singularities are useful for predicting the action of matter objects and sometimes singularities are blind alleys where people spend their entire careers.

      Sometimes singularities and infinities are just loose notions that people have that seem to make sense to them but to no one else in the universe...such is life...

      Hi ,

      I don't understand why people wants to rest in our standard model.I can understand that allmust eat at the same table and that the works of thinkers are important.But we must evolve and imrpove their works in adding the good solutions.The problem Mr Agnew is that we must find relevances .The aim is not to repeat course of universities or pappers.The aim is to go more far in finding new roads.I beleive that you make a big error in insisting on bosons Mr Agnew.You cannot found the gravitation and the dark matter and the real nature of BH with bosons.It is not a supermega star you know these supermassive BH central to galaxies.That has no sense.The works of Hawking are releva,t because they analyse just at this bridge.A BH is not a singularity, its quantum code yes.It is totally different Mr Agnew, hope you see the subtil difference respecting the gravitational stable codes which are not baryonic furthermore.The events horizons can permit to analyse the comportments of bosons indeed at this bridge.Their comportments can help to see what are these BH really.But we cannot be sure still, my theory is hypothetical like many reasonings and these BH needs an explaination.It iw what ? a whormhole behind ?a door ? a SUPERSTAR absorbing all due to its mass ? A Spatiotemporal door? Let's be serious there.These BH need a shape, I see only one solution, the sphere.Now these BH central togalaxies are in all galaxies and they have several properties and rules it seems tome.We can say what we want,these BH are a reality and they must be explained.You know Mr Agnew if God exists , this infinite entropy above our physicality in imrpovement.You think really that stars and standard model and electromagnetism are the only one Tools to imrpove our universe?That has no sense in fact.We are travellers from Stars, we are catalysers of matters and energy.We are gardeners of This universal sphere Mr Agnew.c is important for bosons photons it permits to see and have our actual standard model but it is just a step.You think really that God has created only photons ? And so we cannot travel Inside this sphere between stars?It isjust that we are youngs simply and it is wll like that Mr Agnew, already that we have difficulties toharmonise thisplanet earth ? so why travel at this moment?God has well made the things,we are not ready still to utilise this energy.If these BH exist there are reasons, if darkmatter exist there are reasons, if we search still this gravitation, there are reasons.God does not play at dices and the codes are gravitational from this cosmological singularity.It is the only one singularity for our cosmological scales and this central sphere BH is connected gravitationally by its gravit aether with all central quantum BH ,they are singularities coded by this cosm singularity.It is important to see the difference in this reasoning.If we analyse the CMB it is still a bosonic reasoning.We must go more far Mr Agnew at all scales, qyant or cosmol.The infinity is just by add and is above this physicality,the systems are finite Inside this physicality, logic due to singularities cited above.Finite but in evolution on an irreversible entropical gravitational Arrow of time.The Universe is deterministic and possesses intrinsic laws more than our simple actual analyses.Best Regards

      Steve,

      All matter has a unified observable infinite surface. You have a complete surface including your eyes. No matter in which direction you look, you will only ever see a plethora of seamlessly enmeshed flattish shaped varied colored surface. Imagine if you will a cannonball and an inflated toy balloon lying side by side on your front lawn. You have measured the seeming finite physical dimensions of the cannonball and the balloon, yet, as you approach them, you will see that their surface appears to grow greater at the same rate of growth. If you retreat from the two surface spheres, both surfaces shrink. Your surface can only retreat along a physical surface, so all surface must be unified and INFINITE. Real light cannot have a finite surface.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

        Hello Mr Fisher,

        I try really to encircle your line of reasoning.All surface you say must be unified and infinite.I have really difficulties to accept this.The finite series are essential.I beleive strongly that it is due to an infinite aether luminerous in your reasoning where the infinite is connected with all finite systems.If the luminerous aether is not really infinite but the real infinite aether is the gravitational aether from the central singularity in my line of reasoning.The photonic sphere aged of 13;7 billions years is not infinite because the main codes are not from a super mega star , central to our universe.The infinite surface is gravitational Mr Fisher at this wall separating our universe and the physicality, the universal sphere in my model.The universal sphere is not a photonic sphere, this phot sphere is Inside.That is why we must even restudy really our universal age because we cannot consider only photons for our universal laws.The photons are just a tool,they are not the foundamental bricks of evolution but gravitation yes.Real light has so a finite sphere in increasing but the gravitational sphere is different because we tends towards infinity at these singularities.One cosmologic and the quantum singularities.All islinked but with relativity.Take care Jedi ofthe sphere........We are finite but our entropy is infinite.:)

        Hi Steve, I think it is good that you differentiate the photons in the environment from the matter of the universe and identify a problem in only considering the photons. It is important, as I see it, because photons when received can be used to form an image of the universe. Giving two kinds of universe -the observed image and the unobserved material universe.

        I think it is good that you have given Joe's ideas consideration but I have found that they are not founded on reasoning that can be debated but his own 'indisputable 'belief.

        When talking about the cannon ball and balloon he is talking about outputs of the human visual system and yet his 'model' does not permit functioning of that system as it does not permit the movement of photons that are the inputs to the system.

        Steve,

        One real observable Universe only has one observable infinite surface.

        Georgina,

        Real observable infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light does not have to be differentiated from invisible finite photons wafting about in an invisible finite environment. Please concentrate on utterly simple visible infinite surface and stop trying to make sense of invisible codswallop.

        Joe Fisher, Realist

        Hi to both of you?

        The photons are for coded by gravitation.They are like a fuel in fact.They decrease their velocities in beeing encoded in our nuclei respecting the evolution of matter energy.The photons are not all the same indeed because they are coded.But the problem witha lot of scientists is to consider the photons like primordial codes form God.I see differently because photons are not only one particles of evolution.W must explain dark matter, grvitationa and BH.Insisting on photons is not the solution to encircle the obserrvable universe and the entire universe.I prefer to speak about a known universe and an unknown universe.We know the effects of photons and it is a tool.But it is not sufficient to understand our gravitation.The gravitation is an universal equilibrium correlated for me with the natural rotations of sphères,quant and cosm.This force is not electromagnetic,the sphères turn not due to thermo and speciaal relativity.That has no sense in fact.It is a big problem to insist on photons instead of particles of gravitation.Because it is like resting in a prison simply.God does not play at dices and evolution permits to see the steps towards our singuarities coded gravitationally.It is there Mr Fisher that you have made an error considering God like an infinite light.It is more than that, so the real infinite surface are gravitational and not luminerous.The physicality is a specific system with intrinsic universal laws and domains respecting the finite series.Gravitation tends to infinity .....Not light in fact .Regards

        Dear Joe, your description of how the surface is seen to change with relative motion of the observer tells me that you re talking about a manifestation produced by the visual system of that observer. Whether you recognize it as such or not. You are using sight in your argument and therefore that process of vision has to be allowed. I am not trying to make sense of invisible 'codswallop', it is not codswallop to me but makes sense as it explains the phenomena investigated by physics experiments and biological processes. Your proposal lacks the equivalent explanatory power and can not be supported by logical arguments. So I humbly suggest you go back to the drawing board.