Sherman,

I opened your opus and I seen there are written: //Author Bio// and such a text under that chapter:

//Question geometry, numbers "dark and light." How to ask and answer. "How does sun light make shadows?" Seeing our home and garage at (36.933804, -93.055313) one can imagine what this question was for me ....//!!!

Then it become for my very difficult to imagine anything! Thus, I have seen that it will too difficult to continue ....

I just would to understand - Sorry, to what purpose you are here?

Maybe it will more right directed this question to FQXi administration?

Hi,

Thank you for looking at my paper and commenting.

I like your paper. To me, there are valid criticisms of the way that science is happening now. Perhaps it belongs in a sociology of science journal. I agree with you about math being man-made. My paper pushes this also.

All the best,

Noson

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    Thank you dear professor, for answering my post and favorable words on my work. This important for me as a opinion of one deeply thinker specialist. Unfortunately our approach on the role and significance of math are some different from opinions of many important bosses in present science. However, we can thinking as we see it correct.

    Maybe I have not enough level to say this, but I think your clear approchement to a relation between facts with math may induce a lot of perspectives .. and I am going now to rate your work!

    Best regards

    Dear George,

    Your essay is very interesting and has given me much food for thought. I must admit that I must do some more research to understand some of problems in the way modern science is done, that you have pointed out. I will say that I agree that the role of the observer is of utmost importance and we need to have extremely clear definitions of such an observer's capacities and capabilities. I thank you for your discussions on that. Your work has been a good read. Good luck on the contest.

    Cheers

    Natesh

    Dear George,

    Your essay has been for me a very informative and useful reading, because it raises many questions about the current state of scientific research and offers insight on the uneasy relations between the "official" science and the independent research. I am not a physicist or a mathematician and I certainly cannot evaluate to what extent the situation of the current paradigms of these two sciences is lacking. However, I share with you the view that the nature of fundamental particles has not yet been clarified (and the frequent discovery of new more and more evanescent particles does not improve the situation) and that the relationship between mathematics and reality should be reconsidered. But I must admit that the way in which you criticize the mainstream of current research seems to me somewhat too polemical (but maybe it's a matter of taste). I don't think that the boundaries between truth and error in human knowledge (apart from logic and pure mathematics) are so clear and I don't even know if there is a specific plan by the prevailing scientific community to support at any cost some particular theoretical framework. As for the quantum representation of reality (QR), that you think has favored a distorted view of things, it seems clear that quantum mechanics actually works, but no one knows yet why it works. It is likely that the interpretations proposed so far, including that of Copenhagen, are not correct or are incomplete, but we have still to find the right way to replace them. It is not an easy task and I think, but perhaps I'm deceiving myself, that philosophy has something to say about it.

    My very kind regards for you,

    Giovanni

    Dear Giovanni

    Thank you very much for your favorable words and valuable remarks. These are good support to me, a morally only, but it is also the support. I see mainly we are like-minded people, and let me be just tell some small remarks only:

    1. You says //the nature of fundamental particles (and QR) has not yet been clarified// - but you already know one crazy guy who says "I know this" and he points on the large works and on the concretely results (see Refs)

    2. Then you says //I am not a mathematician and nor the physicist ...etc.//

    My dear, the philosophy was a father of all sciences, then the philosophers must have more priority to instruct and evaluate of mathematicians and physicists (as their non-thankful sons!) than the opposite!

    However, I think everything is in the usual rule of things!

    Be well and many successes to you!

    Dear George Kirakosyan,

    Thank you for pointing me to your essay. You have covered a lot of ground and I sometimes wonder if key insights you share are lost in translation. Having said that there is a nugget you mentioned that deserves more attention. In reference to the original question, you state "This may happen, if ... aims and intentions can be mindless!" I think many authors have not considered this as a case study and you have inspired me to think more about it.

    In any event I wanted to let you know I have also rated your essay in the meantime.

    Regards,

    Robert

    Dear George,

    You have written a very good essay and I agree to most of the facts that you brought up. Sometimes I feel some that kind of mentality that existed during Galileo still remains in some area, therefore like other people in this forum I believe the modern physics needs change course in some of its areas.

    I wish you very good luck in your essay.

    Warm regards

    Koorosh

      Hi dear Eckard,

      I have read your essay (in known meaning) and I feel that you are one person who are inclined to bitterly criticism. My dear, there is small quantity people who like such persons. (I think for this your position in the rating list looks not so happy!) In my opinion however, any valuable thing impossible to created without serious criticism. But this is the reality. For example, we well understanding what will happen if the critic-wolf will be absent in the forest, - and we continue kill them. So I can be fully with you and even good supporting to you (because me also are somewhat critic!) let me give you one technological advice only - It will better to take one concrete nail and to bit it to end! You can try, for example, to cut whole physics by Occam's razor - to see what remain there after? (I am trying do this in my works) I do not know how will useful my support to you but I am going to do it.

      Good wishes to you, in your hard work.

      Dear Sir,

      You are absolutely right about the central role of the Observer, because, without observation, nothing exists for the system. By this, we imply the triplet of the Observer, the Observed and the Mechanism of Observation. The last two make sense only if the Observer observes. For this reason, "his own ability and rightness of actions" cannot be questioned or even discussed, as it is the be all and end all of all perceptions. We cannot even imagine anything beyond or contrary to what is observed, though we can compare between what is observed. Since there is no equation for observer, it is beyond mathematics also.

      You are also right about the indignity piled upon us by the superstitious lot, who blindly believed LHC to such an extent that when in July 2012 it declared the discovery of the so-called God particle, they were euphoric, but ignored it when LHC declared in December the same year that they have not yet discovered the Higg's boson, but what they found was Higg-like. They also did not protest when it was reported that it gave mass to all particles, though in reality, if the theory is ultimately proved correct, it provided mass only via weak interaction, which is less than 1% of the total mass. We pity them because they do not even know what they are talking about. Look at the large number of different approaches or formulations to the foundations of QM - many contradicting each other. Then there are various interpretations. Can we call it a coherent theory?

      The physics community blindly accepts rigid, linear ideas about the nature of space, time, dimension, etc. These theories provide conceptual convenience and attractive simplicity for pattern analysis, but at the cost of ignoring equally-plausible alternative interpretations of observed phenomena that could possibly have explained the universe better. Modern theories do not give a precise definition of the technical terms used, but give an operational definition that can be manipulated according to convenience. Wigner defined mathematics as the science of skillful operations with concepts and rules invented just for this purpose. This is too open-ended. What is skillful operation? What are the concepts and Rules? Who invented them? What is the purpose? Do all concepts and rules have to be mathematical? Wigner says: The great mathematician fully, almost ruthlessly, exploits the domain of permissible reasoning and skirts the impermissible, but leaves out what is permissible and what is not; leaving scope for manipulation.

      Wigner admits not only the incompleteness of mathematics but also its manipulation according to the aesthetic sense of the operator. He gives the example of complex numbers and burrowing from Hilbert, admits: Certainly, nothing in our experience suggests the introduction of these quantities. Indeed, if a mathematician is asked to justify his interest in complex numbers, he will point, with some indignation, to the many beautiful theorems in the theory of equations, of power series, and of analytic functions in general, which owe their origin to the introduction of complex numbers. The mathematician is not willing to give up his interest in these most beautiful accomplishments of his genius. A reverse self-fulfilling effect!

      Mathematics is the ordered accumulation and reduction in numbers of the same class (linear or vector) or partially similar class (non-linear or set) of objects. Coding or information is related to some physical objects. We cannot detach the physical objects from codes and say that the code or information has an independent existence - pi is in the sky! We believe in understanding the physical world through mathematics, but not creating the physical world through mathematics.

      We thoroughly enjoyed your essay.

      Regards,

      basudeba

      Many thanks dear basudeba, for your kindly words and mostly, for your meaningful remarks on the relation of reality, math and physics. I can add only one remark - many of us have thinking that the God had special intention - to hid from us the secrets of his creation. I am thinking (and I see that you also!) that the problem of cognition are linked with us, but not with the Creator!

      I wish you all the best!

      Hello George,

      I really enjoyed your essay. I loved quote about Bruno- "Do you think the fuel will be enough?', but more seriously found myself nodding in agreement to observations such as this:

      "I think it may be enough to remember that mathematics has been our valuable language - tool, created and developed by us to make our job easier. As we see now, it has become some omnipotent - cabalistic knowledge, with hurried hands of advanced theorists, who have long believed that it may guide them to incredible new successes!"

      I am not sure if he's right, but see you like a prophet crying in the wilderness who should be paid attention to.

      It struck me that perhaps the change physics seems to need to escape its current dead end will come from a prophet/outsider from beyond the geographical or institutional centers of physics.

      I wish you Godspeed in that,

      Rick Searle

      Dear Rick

      Your favorable words are over of any my expectations! It's very encouraging for me to meet with people who preferring thinking by own head. We know the bosses always are right in life. I think, however in the science every thinker must be free to feel himself an small prophet. Then we can cry in our deserts, hoping somebody will passed nearest! Now I'm thinking it may really happen.

      Thank you, and my best wishes to you!

      Dear George,

      I am responding to the note that you left on my essay. But then you chose not to mention anything about the essay.

      I perused your essay first time on 22nd March. While reading, I got the impression that your central theme is to bring to the fore the problems in modern scientific thinking and what plagues science today in general. I agreed with several of those observations. So I also wrote a note of response about that. But as I read further, I noticed that you have a scientific proposal of your own for the contest.

      I do agree with the conclusion though: Thus, it will be a simple lexical mistake to say - "math defines or manages things", since natural laws do this. Thus, mathematics is our tool that cannot work by itself, rule something, or give us useful results.

      But, I could not follow the entire logic leading to that. So, I decided not to rate the essay.

      Rajiv

      Dear George,

      I would ask you something, reading your amazing essay. The matter is I have read somewhere that famous Wolfgang Pauli had bitterly joking before he died, by saying: "when I die the first thing for me it will be to ask of devil - where from arises the alpha (1/137)?" Moreover, brilliant Feynman has written: "this mysterious number is a punishment of God to all physicists, as till now we have not even serious idea where from it appears!" So, I has come into shock when I has find in your papers that this mystery is solved! Moreover, I seen there that 2-3 professors have confirmed correctness your solution of this unimaginable problem. But I still would like asking you - Is it really this like that? I see your essay as high - valuable!

      Yours faithfully,

      Vladimir

        Dear George,

        You raise interesting criticism of contemporary science in your essay, with well justified arguments but also some that maybe are less justified. It seems that you have an alternative explanation for some of the phenomena, and I wish you good luck exploring your ideas.

        Best regards,

        Cristi

          Dear Cristi

          Many thanks for your attention and kindly words.

          You are right - I have some alternative approach and own explanations to many of basic problems hoping somebody can show interest to this.

          Many thanks again and good wishes to you!

          Dear Vladimir

          I will answer simply as your question is - yes, my dear! I have solved this problem. The matter is however, that the market management does not need to see this; they have preferred to see how people beating by their heads on the wall... Regarding on this I can suggest you rereading the "Gulliver's Travels" of amazing English classic's Jonathan Swift, - namely, the chapter devoted to "Grand Academy of Lagado." I think our present situation somewhat close to this.

          Thanks for attention and Best wishes to you!

          6 days later

          George Kirokasyan,

          I completely agree with you on the following points: 'the significance of math apparatus was elevated to some unexplainable - mystical level'; 'All kinds of particles are formed from the same primordial substance. The huge numbers of different unstable particles cannot represent any interest and perceptivity for study'.

          However, I disagree with the tone of the statement 'mathematics is our tool that cannot work by itself'. Mathematics is an 'available tool', but not 'our tool' in the sense that even without us the tool exists. No body can defy mathematical laws, not even an omnipotent creator. Anything that goes against mathematical laws is a 'miracle'. It is said that God reveals himself through miracles, not that he defies mathematical laws, but makes it appear as if mathematical laws are defied.

          Coming to Newton, he explained the terms 'mass, motion, acceleration, energy, force and work', and identified the mathematical relation between these. The equation for kinetic energy E=mv2/2, perfectly agrees with the equation for force F=ma. Here, he considered 'mass' as a property of matter, and 'the rest' as something imposed on matter.

          However when he explained gravity, he considered gravity as force, and linked it to matter, thereby inadvertently linking force (or at least a part of it) to matter. Thinking in retrospect, he could have easily linked motion also to matter as a property.

          Excuse me, here I mention something about my theory, 'Finiteness theory'. My theory is based on Newtonian physics with two modifications: (i). Motion at speed 'c' is a property of matter (ii). Force is reaction to that motion. I think these modifications are enough to make Newtonian physics explain everything in the physical world. I have nearly completed my alternate model.

          Our views coincide regarding the 'present state of physics' and also regarding 'how it should have been'. As you mentioned in another post, you also have some alternate approach. I would like to know how far you have reached, whether it is just in the 'basic-level' or 'nearly-complete level'.

          Jose P Koshy

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