THE PURPOSE OF LIFE by Wilhelmus de de WILDE

Stefan Weckbach

And yes, i fully agree to "Every human being (even atheists) is looking for GOD (their TEO). This search gives us a calm that has nothing to do with survival (in this earth) and procreation, but with our HOPE that after death there will be something better."!

Yes, humans can sacrifice their life to something and many people do it day by day (in war, in terrorism). How can one explain this with the in-built Darwinian programs of survival? This is an example where human choices are independent of biological necessities.

Thanks for your sentence which inspired me to think about it this way and to find a counterexample to the survival-credo!

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Alexey:

Sorry for my later rection but I had work to do.

Your last question was

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As you may know, the fundamental laws of physics are very special (see Discoverability Principle in our essay). I think this fact is too important to be disregarded by ontology. Why do you think the laws are what they are? How can this fact be understood within your worldview?

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In my worldview the "LAWS" of Physics are rules that were discovered in the past of our emergent reality. The "flow" of the emergent reality we are experiencing right now is based on the social memory of this (emergent)specific time/life-line. (We experience each NOW moment as a flow from the past to the NOW).

The past with ALL his available data (history, scientific laws etc) is just ONE time/life-line. We think that we are flowing into a future that is a logical continuation of this past.

However it is also possible that when changing time/life-lines we also can enter a NEW past with different data and "Laws", this is possible at any Eternal Now Moment. So the word FACT is highly uncertain, see also the remark from banks : "PAST PERFORMANCE IS NO GUARANTEE FOR FUTURE RESULTS" that I used on page one of the essay.

I hope I cleared this question, and hope that you will be rating my essay soon.

best regards and happy future

Wilhelmus

Alexey/Lev Burov

Dear Wilhelmus,

Thank you for your answers. Your essay is much deeper than many other. I think its main drawback is its insensitivity to Wigner's 'unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics', which is one of the most fundamental facts about the universe. That is why I score your essay high, but not ultimately high :)

All the best,

Alexey.

Patrick Tonin

Dear Wilhelmus,

Thank you for your post on my page.

I have read your essay with great interest and we seem to agree on a lot of points.

Your multiple emergent realities approach is similar to mine but in your case they don't seem to be connected in any meaningful way and once lived, each moment is back into oblivion. In my approach, past/present/future exist simultaneously and we are just going through each moment at the speed of light. This means that there is a limited number of "you" living your life at any one time (equal to the number of moments in your life). Each moment in your life forms your "lifeline" and is linked with the adjacent moments but each moment can change (in a limited way) at every new moment. So effectively, your past and your future can change but as far as you are concerned you can't see it because you can only "see" your present "now". I hope you get the idea.

As requested, I will rate your essay.

All the best,

Patrick

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Patrick

What you are describing in your essay is just in other words what i am thinking.

Every NOW moment the FLOW can change, which means also the past, so the memory.

Once lived means for me, the emergent phenomenon of that specific life line still is an availability in TS, exploring thsi idea further and trying to remember that also the ME is an emergent phenomenon it can mean that The life you are seeming to live now is an eternal sequence in the time and space restricted emergent reality.

I very much agree with your thoughts.

best regards

thank you for the rating

Wilhelmus

Patrick Tonin

Hi Wilhelmus,

It is always nice to hear that your ideas are shared by others.

Please rate my essay when you can, I just got a "1", not cool !

Cheers,

Patrick

Christian Corda

Dear Wilhelmus,

I am happy to re-meet you here in FQXi Essay Contest.

I have just read your interesting Essay. Despite it is a bit speculative, I consider it being a remarkable work which gave me fun. Thus, you deserves the highest score that I am going to give you. Good luck in the Contest!

Here is our Essay

Cheers, Ch.

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Christian,

Thanks a lot for your comment on my essay.

I have read with great interest the work of yourself and the co-authors.

The gravitational waves trembled through the text.

The goal of any wave is insecure, it goes on and on.

You also deserve a high rating.

best regards

Wilhelmus

Klee Irwin

I enjoyed reading your essay Wilhelmus...it has been a bit busy around Quantum Gravity Research with our new movie 'What Is Reality' that just came out explaining a bit about our work, so forgive the limited input here. Your essay was VERY interesting!

I gave you the highest score and I wish you luck in this essay contest and continued success in your research work.

Cheers!

Klee

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Thanks a lot Klee

Pls keep me informed about your movie "What is Reality"

Maybe my articles may be of assistance with your search.

This afternoon I am gonne read your participation.

best regards

Wilhelmus

Georgina Woodward

Hi Wilhelmus, I just wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed reading read your well written essay. You have clearly explained your model and I have a better understanding now of the ways in which your and my own model of reality diverge. Good to read all of the positive reviews and replies. It is clearly attracting attention and interest. Kind regards Georgina

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Georgina,

Thank you for your attention for my participation.

I am gonna dive into your emergent reality this afternoon.

best regards

Wilhelmus

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Georgina,

Thanks for reading my contribution to the contest.

I have read your essay with great interest.

Your "emerging" comes from complexity, my thinking is also complexity is an emerging phenomenon, our whole experience of reality is an emerging phenomenon.

Causality is (in my latest perception) the effect that EVERYTHING we are consciousness experiencing ihas happened in the PAST (because we are "living" in a time and space-restricted reality). We only are aware of events that were "caused" by earlier events in our memories. This PAST has its origin in what I call Total Simultaneity. There the several moments (ENM's) forming our life-lines are timeless so eternal. The NOW moment we seem to experience is immediately becoming past and no longer "available" in our emergent memory experience. However it is still an eternal ENM in TS. You could then imagine that the NOW moment we seem to experience "contains" ALL the Information of a specific life-line in TS, so it seems a FLOW experience. When going further it could mean that the life we are living is only an emergent NOW moment with all its specific life-line info in our emergent memory. In this way causality and flow of time could be understood. I amaware that this is not yet a complete perception but in this contest all the other opinions are contributing to the basic idea.

I rated your essay and hope that you will rate mine also.

best regards and good luck in the next Eternal Now Moment

Wilhelmus

Tejinder Singh

Dear Wilhelmus,

I am quite amazed at your intuitive grasp of notions such as Eternal Now Moment and Total Simultaneity. This is awesome I think. It tallies very well with what I have mathematically defined as Trace Time in my essay.

I do not know how to deal with consciousness - so I tried to steer clear of it. That is not to say that I disagree with the importance you attach to it with regard to understanding the physical world.

In the later part of your essay, are you suggesting that you believe in the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics?

Best wishes,

Tejinder

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Tejinder,

Thank you for your positive comment on my essay.

In my "emergent phenomenon" called reality "time" is a restriction (like space).

We are experiencing a "flow" of time through the limited consciousness that is creating (emerging) memory at each Eternal Now Moment.

Looking at a Wave collapse we see that it is "happening" always in the past. The emerging particle after the "collapse" is also a past emergent phenomenon. The moment we are aware of the "particle like distribution" in the Young experiment, we are experiencing an image from the past, representing a past ENM (that is timeless (eternal) in Total Simultaneity).

So you could say that the Flow that we experience as TIME is an emergent effect of the memory data we are aware of. Actually I am 71 yeras old,(and remeber the I have the memories of that age, I cannot reach out to the past (nor to the future). The NOW moment includes the whole FLOW of my past life, so the emergent effect of "living". The whole emergent life as also reality is compressed in an ENM.

I do believe that any way of thinking can be the base of an emergent reality.The MWI is a splitting up of realities. In my perception this split up is not a "material" one only the "move" to another "availability" that can become reality in another emergent phenomenon.

I am untill now unable to substantiate this view mathematically, but I am searching.

best regards

Wilhelmus

Vladimir Rogozhin

Dear Wilhelmus,

I read with great interest your depth analytical essay, ideas and conclusions, that will help us overcome the crisis of understanding in fundamental science through the creation of a new comprehensive picture of the world, uniform for physicists and lyrics filled with meanings of the "LifeWorld" (E.Husserl). I believe that the modern "crisis of understanding" (K.V.Kopeykin "Souls "of atoms and "atoms"of the soul: Wolfgang Ernst Pauli, Carl Gustav Jung and the "three great problems of physics"), "trouble with physics" (Lee Smolin,"The Trouble with Physics: The Rise of String Theory, the Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next")is a deep crisis of ontology and dialectics. Your essay gives hope that we will still be able to unravel the "thought of the Creator before the Creation Act" and build a model of the "self-aware Universe" (Vasily Nalimov) .

That is especially important of your ideas and actualization of concepts: "structure", "process", "memory", "The Subjective Simultaneity Sphere", "life-line", "timeless memory". I am particularly grateful to you for actualization of the "dialectical line" in knowledge since Heraclitus. I give my highest rating.

I believe, that only extremely constructive metaphysics, and the global "brain storm" will help us to overcome the crisis of understanding, crisis of interpretation and representation: "An educated people without a metaphysics is like a richly decorated temple without a holy of holies." (G.W.F.Hegel)

Best regards,

Vladimir

Robert Groess

Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,

Thank you for your fascinating essay, with strong emphasis on the nature of time on intent and consciousness. I would like to ask if you consider widening what you call the "collective NOW memory" to include all information that has ever been directed at our physical point in space-time over the age of the universe? (I say point because anything that happens within a few thousand years around the "collective NOW" as well as a few thousand light-years in all directions is essentially a single point from our vantage on a light-cone diagram). It just struck me when you specified the collective history we have accumulated as an information infrastructure from human efforts, we could also include what astronomers and cosmologists are still accumulating through observations today.

I wanted to let you know I enjoyed reading your essay and have also rated it in the meantime.

Regards,

Robert.

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Robert,

Indeed what I had to refer as "The collective NOW memory" is wht is available as information on our Subjective Simultaneity Sphere. It also means that it is available for ALL other SSS spheres of any form of consciousness. The center of an SSS is indeed an emerging physical point in our emerging reality with its restrictions of space and time.

If we are expanding the radius of an SSS this new sphere can involve the whole "known" universe with all its known and also unknown (meaning the not yet interpreted and discovered data) information.

This could mean that we are receiving at any NOW moment ALL information (on our SSS) about our specific emerging reality, in the middele ages the "interpretation" of that collective NOW moment was another one as the one we are receiving right NOW, becuse of lack of knowledge.

When looking around in our emerging reality we become aware that only a little part of our consciouss companions are sharing the "knowledge" of the specific NOW we are experiencing.

The accumulated "knowledge" (awareness) of ALL branches of science is available for ALL s data on their SSS. This also counts for the collective "history" of a specific NOW moment that includes the infinity of time before this NOW, only a little part of thsi is available as "knowledge" that we become consciouss of.

You asked me the right question that I am still working on , thank you for that.That is why I like so much the FQXi contest , you are directly confronted with essential questions.

I am going to read comment and rate your essay NOW.

best regards

Wilhelmus

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Dear Robert

I like to mention some remarks on your very well written essay:

* "The second LAW of Thermodynamics" is a "collective memory" of a past analysis in this specific NOW moment. In the next NOW moment it may be totally different. It may just be another interpretation of Maxwells Demon...

* Consciousness may be the counterforce of entropy...

* Any "limit" of minimal information (Landauer) is restricted in TIME. Time is an emergent phenomenon, so is information so are the receiving agents... Each NOW moment includes ALL information of its past.

* AI is crated by emergent consciousness, so maybe it is a GOAL that is not only occupied by progeneration...but can be a means to overcome the restrictions of time and space and come closer to Total Simultaneity...

* It sis no use I think to look for the announcer in the radio. Both the announcer and the radio are emergent phenomenae.

I liked your essay very much, the above remarks are only thoughts that came up during reading, I wish you good luck in the contest, be prepared to receive negative ratings without any comment (I got 6 ones!!!)...

best regards

Wilhelmus

Robert Groess

Dear Wilhelmus,

Thank you for your reply, as well as the time you took to read my essay. I have replied to your comments on my forum page. As regards the SSS, I wonder if, in a very real sense, we could "travel" back in time by returning all information on a SSS to the microphysical point that is at the center? In your example of an announcer and a radio being emergent phenomena, so is the SSS generated by the isotropically radiating radio wave. In any event, this is a far more speculative musing that came to mind and I am not sure how deeply it is rooted in fundamental physics. As a counter argument, the subjectivity of the simultaneity sphere is what leads you to your contention that time is an emergent construct. (Something I delve into a little deeper in my comment to you on my forum.) Thank you for your stimulating discussion!

Regards

Robert

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Dear Wilhelmus,

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my essay. I appreciate it. I enjoyed your thoughts and extra perspective that you have provided. You say "Time is an emergent phenomenon, so is information so are the receiving agents". This is a fascinating discussion since I agree with you on the information and receiving agents. What I would love to understand better is the concept of time being a realization of another, deeper process. For example, neutron decay really happens at the scale where quantum effects are substantial, and yet we can treat the elapsed time for such an event classically. I wonder if you have more thoughts on that? In any event, thank you again for your comments and I will reply to your post regarding your essay on your forum.

Regards,

Robert

PS: From the rules of the contest, I understand there is a good probability that excessively low ratings without basis will be cancelled and removed from scores before the final decisions are made.

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