The Post-Quantum Physics of Matter, Mind, Consciousness by Jack Sarfatti

I don't think your idea is plausible, but I could be wrong.

What experiments?

Annie Jacobson's new book Phenomenon (advance copy sent to me by the author)

Sarfatti Commentary 1 of a series

Annie's book complements David Kaiser's "How the Hippies Saved Physics." It has lots of interesting details on Puharich's early work on psi for the military and of course a lot interesting history on Uri Geller, Russ Targ, Hal Puthoff, Kit Green, Dale Graf, Edgar Mitchell et-al. The end of the book points out that CIA, DOD et-al lack a scientific understanding of the psi phenomenon. Unfortunately, there is no mention of Dean Radin's important experiments nor of the post-quantum physics that explains it adequately in my opinion.

" ' A large body of reliable experimental evidence points to the inescapable conclusion that extrasensory perception does exist as a real phenomenon." the CIA concluded in 1975 ... 'There exists no satisfactory theoretical understanding of these phenomena ... ' Without a theory, the CIA was left with hypotheses, or conjecture." pp 377-78

Yes, that was the situation back then when CIA and Werner Erhard, Andrija Puharich and others contacted me to work on this problem. See my book Destiny Matrix and Kaiser's book "How the Hippies Saved Physics" for more details. It has taken a long time to solve this problem. I now claim, with Roderick Sutherland's serendipitous mathematical breakthrough

1. arXiv:1509.07380 [pdf]

Interpretation of the Klein-Gordon Probability Density

Roderick Sutherland

Comments: 6 pages

Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

2. arXiv:1509.02442 [pdf]

Lagrangian Description for Particle Interpretations of Quantum Mechanics -- Entangled Many-Particle Case

Roderick Sutherland

Comments: 34 pages

Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

3. arXiv:1509.00001 [pdf]

Energy-momentum tensor for a field and particle in interaction

Roderick Sutherland

Comments: 9 pages

Subjects: Classical Physics (physics.class-ph)

4. arXiv:1502.02058 [pdf]

Naive Quantum Gravity

Roderick I. Sutherland

Subjects: General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology (gr-qc); Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

5. arXiv:1411.3762 [pdf]

Lagrangian Formulation for Particle Interpretations of Quantum Mechanics: Single-Particle Case

Roderick I. Sutherland

Comments: 12 pages

Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

6. arXiv:quant-ph/0601095 [pdf]

Causally Symmetric Bohm Model

Rod Sutherland

Comments: 35 pages, 5 figures, new sections 12 and 13 added

Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

That what CIA, Werner Erhard et-al were looking for has finally now been essentially found - not only an explanation for anomalous ESP, but the explanation for ordinary consciousness and the beginning of a technology for conscious AI and the ability to upload human memories (qualia) to The Cloud in the sense of The Singularity of Kurzweil.

Precognition is an example of post-quantum locally retrocausal entanglement keyless signaling caused by action-reaction between Bohm's quantum information mental pilot waves and the classical level matter beables they interact with.

Dean Radin, today as the Destiny Matrix would have it, said this at the same time an advance copy of Annie's book arrived at my door

On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:47 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

Thanks Dean

Exactly my point! :-)

Do you understand Stan Klein's $70K experiment?

On Mar 22, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dean Radin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:55 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

[JS] Does Dean Radin agree that his work was not done properly?

​Of course not. The relevant experiments have been conducted for decades, by dozens of independent researchers around the world, often under harsh scrutiny. With the current evidence in hand, consider that Jessica Utts, who was President of the American Statistical Association last year, said the following as part of her Presidential address to 6,000 professional statisticians from around the world:

For many years I have worked with researchers doing very careful work in [parapsychology], including a year that I spent full-time working on a classified project for the United States government to see if we could use these abilities for intelligence gathering during the cold war.

At the end of that project I wrote a report for Congress stating what I still think is true. The data in support of precognition and possibly other related phenomena is quite strong statistically and would be widely accepted if it pertained to something more mundane.

Yet, most scientists reject the possible reality of these abilities without ever looking at data. And on the other extreme, there are true believers who base their beliefs solely on anecdotes and personal experience. I have asked the debunkers if there is any amount of data that would convince them, and they generally responded by saying "probably not." I ask them what original research they have read, and they mostly admit that they haven't read any. Now there is a definition of a pseudoscientist: Basing conclusions on belief rather than data.

When I've given talks on this topic to audiences of statisticians I show lots of data. Then I ask the audience, which would be more convincing to you? Lots more data or one strong personal experience? And guess what, almost without fail the response is one strong personal experience.

... I think people are justifiably skeptical because most people think these abilities contradict what we know about science. They don't, but that's the topic of another talk.

I would add to what Jessica said that it's a mistake to think that yet another experiment, however impeccably it's designed and regardless of who publishes it, is going to convince anyone of anything they presently think is impossible.

Jack and others are offering theoretical models that view retrocausal effects not as unexplainable anomalies, but as phenomena that make sense. A viable theory is the only thing that will convince staunch skeptics. Even a money-making application won't work because hardcore skeptics can (and regularly do) explain away anything they don't like as flaws or fraud.

best wishes,

Dean

www.noetic.org

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- Chief Scientist, Institute of Noetic Sciences deanradin.com

​- Distinguished Professor, California Institute of Integral Studies ciis.edu​

- Co-Editor-in-Chief, Explore, an Elsevier journal explorejournal.com

PCTC is a variation on Yakir Aharonov's "weak measurement" connected with Rod Sutherland's locally retrocausal post-Bohmian Lagrangian.

"Closed timelike curves (CTCs) are trajectories in spacetime that effectively travel backwards in

time: a test particle following a CTC can in principle interact with its former self in the past.

CTCs appear in many solutions of Einstein's field equations and any future quantum version of

general relativity will have to reconcile them with the requirements of quantum mechanics and of

quantum field theory. A widely accepted quantum theory of CTCs was proposed by Deutsch. Here

we explore an alternative quantum formulation of CTCs and show that it is physically inequivalent

to Deutsch's. Because it is based on combining quantum teleportation with post-selection, the

predictions/retrodictions of our theory are experimentally testable: we report the results of an

experiment demonstrating our theory's resolution of the well-known 'grandfather paradox.'"

This is for traversable ER wormholes/PQM EPR entanglement signaling in violation of the conditions used by Lenny Susskind et-al.

"Although time travel is usually taken to be the stuff of science fiction, it is not ruled out by scientific fact. Einstein's theory of general relativity admits the possibility of closed timelike curves (CTCs) [1], paths through spacetime which, if followed, allow a time traveller to go back in time and interact with her own past. The logical paradoxes inherent in time travel make it hard to formulate self-consistent physical theories of time travel [2-6]. This paper proposes an empirical self-consistency condition for closed timelike curves: we demand that a generalized measurement made before a quantum system enters a closed timelike curve yield the same statistics - including correlations with other measurements - as would result if the same measurement were made after the system exits from the curve. That is, the closed time- like curve behaves like an ideal, noiseless quantum channel that displaces systems in time without affecting the correlations with external systems. To satisfy this criterion without introducing contradictions, we construct a theory of closed timelike curves via quantum post- selection (P-CTCs). The theory is based on Bennett and Schumacher's suggestion [7] to describe time travel in terms of quantum teleportation, and on the Horowitz-Maldacena model for black hole evaporation [8]. We show that P-CTCs are consistent with path integral approaches [9, 10], but physically inequivalent to the prevailing theory of closed timelike curves due to Deutsch [2]. Moreover, because they are based on post-selection [11], closed timelike curves can be simulated experimentally. We present an experimental realization of the grandfa- ther paradox: the experiment tests what happens when a photon is sent a few billionths of a second back in time to try to 'kill' its former self. ...

Causality is not violated because Bob cannot foresee Alice's measurement result, which is completely random. However, if we could pick out only the proper result with probability one, the resulting 'projective' teleportation would allow information to propagate along spacelike intervals, to escape from black holes [8], or to travel backwards in time along a closed timelike curve. We call this mechanism a projective or post-selected CTC, or P-CTC."

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1005.2219.pdf

to be continued.

On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

The point is that it must be physically possible (on the assumption that the PQM guide wave is the seat of human sentience)

for information to get from the constituent particles to the PQM guide wave in order for there to be awareness of the configurations

of matter.

No back action, no sensory awareness of the material world.

EXACTLY!

PS some details is the distinction between advanced destiny wave for intuition, creativity

& retarded history waves for memories in the weak measurement picture in which retrocausality signaling is essential.

On Mar 24, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Alex Hankey wrote:

Jack, No mechanism of reduction of wave packets has any hope

per se of yielding an understanding of the taste of blue cheese,

or the quality of perception of the colours saffron, emerald or indigo.

I disagree. Any physics of consciousness including Stapp's, Penrose, mine that explains qualia explains all those distinctions as different patterns of the entanglement of qubits in the macro-quantum coherent pilot wave that image the different electromagnetic beable patterns whose reactions cause them.

The articles here measure the classical beable dynamics (independent of Planck's constant h) in the Sutherland PQM Lagrangian whose reactions on their Frohlich coherent advanced destiny and retarded history qubit pilot fields induce the qualia in our streams of consciousness.

Our imaginings of things future are dancing impressions in our destiny fields. Our memories are dancing impressions in our history fields (remembrances of things past)

Reading Thoughts with Brain Imaging - MIT Technology Review

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/412084/reading-thoughts-with-brain-imaging/

Feb 18, 2009 - Functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) looks more and more like a window into the mind. In a study published online today in Nature, ...

Scientists use brain imaging to reveal the movies in our mind ...

news.berkeley.edu/2011/09/22/brain-movies/

Sep 22, 2011 - BERKELEY -- Imagine tapping into the mind of a coma patient, ... Mind-readingthrough brain imaging technology is a common sci-fi theme.

Scientists Can't Read Your Mind With Brain Scans (Yet) | WIRED

https://www.wired.com/2014/04/brain-scan-mind-reading/

Apr 29, 2014 - Scientists Can't Read Your Mind With Brain Scans (Yet) ... to reconstruct pictures of faces that the subjects had been looking at during the scan.

Brain decoding: Reading minds : Nature News & Comment

www.nature.com/news/brain-decoding-reading-minds-1.13989

Oct 23, 2013 - On the left-hand side of the screen is a reel of film clips that Gallant showed to a study participant during a brain scan. And on the right side of ...

Scan a brain, read a mind? - CNN.com

www.cnn.com/2014/04/12/health/brain-mind-reading/

Apr 12, 2014 - Scientists have made significant strides in being able to decode thoughts based on brain activity.

You are simply stuck in primitive thinking.

Indeed, your mode of thinking, your metaphysical brain-washing is the same as Deepak's and many others.

You are like the pre-Copernican Scholastics who thought that Earth was the center of the universe.

You have elevated qualia Q to an ineffable supernatural phenomenon.

BTW PQM does not have reduction in the same sense that Penrose does - but that is a technical difference - the basic ideas are similar only the means are different. The basic idea is that qualia are excitations in the quantum bit mental field directly induced by classical electromagnetic sensory input signals. Penrose invokes tiny changes in the curvature of spacetime for the same tiny mass in a quantum superposition, my adaptation of Sutherland's PQM math relies simply on his new action-reaction Lagrangian prior to taking the PQM --> QM limit.

PQM = Q/ = very complex entanglement pattern of a large number of qubits

PS note that in Bohm picture Penrose's mass m is not in two places at once at all - it is only in one place, but the empty branch of the quantum potential overlaps with the occupied branch and that overlap has the mirage of spooky action-a-distance. See Bohm and Hiley "Undivided Universe" for details on how this works. There is never any literal collapse - empty branches of Q continue to exist and they can be re-awakened (resurrected) i.e. "quantum erasure" in principle if not in practice if the entanglement is to a huge number of environmental systems (environmental decoherence).

Nor the feelings conveyed by the Brandenberg Concertos,

or a good joke. And where do bliss and pain fit in all that.

The endorphin system does not explain what it feels like when

you use a good natural form of stimulation like creative activity.

How can the reduction of wave packets cover such wide possibilities,

and I am not even half way through the whole list!

Do please think about this. It is a problem that is worth a couple of

decades of thought to solve. At the moment most of us don't even

begin to know where to look, though my opinion is that Omega

Structures in Grottendieck's Topos theory may provide a good

starting point.

Does anyone have any thoughts on that one. Or any expertise to share?

All best wishes to everyone,

as ever,

Alex

On 24 March 2017 at 04:15, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

In order for Orch OR to explain qualia Penrose tacitly assumes that the change in the wave function is the quale. This is very similar to PQM.

In Penrose's theory it is the back-reaction of the classical gravity field beable on the electron beables inside the protein dimers etc. that in turn causes a change in the wave function of those electrons et-al that is the quale. Therefore, the wave function is an intrinsic mental field in order for Penrose's scheme to make any sense at all. Same for Henry Stapp's and Wigner's consciousness as collapse - the thing that collapses must be intrinsically thought like.

On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:09 PM, wrote:

It offers a physical mechanism for the von Neumann reduction of the QM wave function by conscious observation.

Presumably any such mechanism, if artificially constructed, would have similar effects.

On 3/23/2017 4:37 PM, Robert Addinall wrote:

Ok, so Hameroff and Penrose's theory is sort of in the middle - proto consciousness is everywhere, but treats the local consciousness of an individual person or animal as happening actively in the brain.

Still, most of these theories differ from "materialist" theories that seek to explain consciousness in the brain from electrical impulses and related well documented phenomena alone.