I'm saying for us counter of things within the flow of time there ARE certainly "events" e.g. we can say things like "the Melbourne Cup" race starts on the first Tuesday in November at 3pm in Melbourne and ends some "duration" later. All these concepts are human counting objects within a cycle called a year. But realise you and me are just "human" events within the model since we can actually do the experiment if we chose to - at the start of the paper. The experiment is "the event of actually being able to count within a "flow" with a "march of event" with a direction,...., to get a heap of sand". Clearly the paper answers the question "Can we determine where (and when) the Melbourne Cap ends exactly? The answer is NO with mathematical precision. It means how we measure duration, seems to make the end exact enough to declare a winner and a placement of the other horses." for us. And by the model presented seems to make the "start" an actual thing in the past "A", when the race ends "within duration". YES I know it sounds all the wrong way around to how we think "things work". "Within duration" means duration without "labels like start and end", duration isn't what we call "time".

    I like articles that make me think in ways that are not standard to my way of thinking. Your article does that very well. I thank you for submitting it.

    But, (and you probably knew this was coming) you are thinking along the lines of all QM people, that is in the small. In your paper you mention bananas and electrons. And to quote, "There is yellowness going on" or "There is "charge +1"-ness going on". Then you argue there are no real electrons just the process of charge-ness. At least you admit there is something. So what in your frame of mind do you consider stars are, or galaxies? Are they real or just manifestations of gravity-ness?

      Thank you for the question and nice to know you found the essay novel.

      That is, what I thought stars and galaxies where anyway, "just the results of gravity" and these the actual stars and galaxies you speak of are by the essay model the actual "events" we see because of the PA (the Principle Assumption) which establishes "within the process of MI" our Kantian view of duration since (by hypothesis: the actual experiment) we are just counters of "things" (e.g. stars, galaxies, grains of star dust) within the flow of time. It is just the way we are cognitively "set-up" (the Critical Correspondence ├а la Kant) to understand the H logic structure (which looks like what we call an hourglass) which is how we define "duration" that is "the difference between the start and the end" for a "human" event that is declaring a heap.

      The equation [т--П , т--Л] = iт--' and the density matrix are where we can see "superposition" itself distributed over all (A,S,U)- tuples" i.e. all durations which are "events". Obviously these "events" are not the same things as what we call "events". These "events' are the actual "things-in-superposition" in QM. Our common-day events are us trying to make a specific density matrix for each interaction "i.e. experiment" instead of doing one overall "distributed" cardinality collection as we have above. For us the "density matrix" are the "objects" we are trying to count. That is "being" counted or the diagonal of т--' in the matrix. We have misunderstand our relationship to the flow of time, the now, and how events are related to duration. The "now" are " actual elements" (the actual diagonal of т--' within the distributed matrix) of the (A,S,U)- tuples. Human minds only count in the "now".

      Clearly since we have Sorites Paradox embedded within the model we can have a solution to the question? "How many grains of sand make a heap?" Or why is it that QM objects collectively act as classical objects for us humans. Modern QM physics says that a tree for example is just a vast collection of indeterminate atoms acting quantum mechanically yet nobody understands how we can go from one quantum thing-in-itself, two quantum thing-in-itself, three quantum thing-in-itself, ... and so on,... until we obtain a classical tree. A tree that has duration that behaves classically which can be counted by humans within a flow of time with a "now" with a direction of time for the past, the present and etc ... so in the model ultimately it is the embedded logic of Sorites Paradox that explains why we don't see trees superposition or do quantum behaviour within the process of Mathematical Induction MI the Principle Assumption. Since its logic answers "What is a collection?" And since we have an actual "one" tree, hence we can count two trees, three trees, ... , even a vast collection called a "forest" which has persistence (or duration) which can act differently from a single tree for us counters of things (eg trees) within a flow of time.

      Why don't human events follow the same temporal logic as "stars, galaxies, ..." is because of the mismatch between cardinality classes N and the actual collections of "n" objects being counted within a flow of time. The cardinality class N of nature is QM (i.e. all QM objects in superposition) while the actual collections of "n" objects or the "n-events" is classic physics (one block for all events that distributes the past the past the future with a direction and a now). It is The Principle Assumption PA working with The Critical Correspondence CC (that is we have actual counting of "things" with persistence) within the process of Mathematical Induction MI using Sorites Paradox as the logic for "what is a collection". You see what the (A,S,U)- tuples (or the columns of the distributed matrix) give us is what we call persistence for objects within the flow of time. The A,S,U-tuples are cardinality classes not the "concepts" we call the past, the present, the future. It is hard to imagine "the present" without "the now" yet we have elements within the matrix that have that behaviour. The off diagonal elements (the black and white balls) don't have "the now". That is very hard to understand in any common-day sense.

      So are there any real events --- yes only qm events in superposition ----- yet grains of star dust within a flow of time with a now and direction for time can form persistent galaxies within the processes of nature. Literally real events are made (of the actual quanta=graininess) of H the hourglass logic structure! What we call events are how indeterminate "heaps" and "non-heaps" (that is how the off diagonal elements in the matrix behave as a whole) can be an "object" that can be used to form a cardinally class for QM objects in the first place!. Simply Nature's cardinality is QM, while it's quanta is classical physics. Or in other terms "the persistence of Nature" is due to the dissipation of the Cardinality Classes of QM. It depends on your Point Of View POV from the POV of the whole (A,S,U) matrix it is describing how "collections" with cardinality N behave (and these collection classes are decided by Sorties Paradox) yet the actual elements that form the classes are real QM objects in superposition that obey [т--П , т--Л] while the actual grains for us counters of thing-in-itself within duration (or things with persistence) are iт--' and the equation [т--П , т--Л] = iт--' is the human POV since it is the declaration of a heap.

      Dear Jouko Harri Tiainen,

      Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

      I merely wish to point out that "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

      Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

      The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

      A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

      Dear Tiainen,

      Nice essay with pictographs,

      Your way of presentation of ideas is very good. Your words... 'Hence a Quineian philosophy for how events and processes work together. That is we only can have correlations (just as we do in QM) for how objects within the flow of time match up to a measurement result, of a heap, using pure mathematical counting.' are good....

      For fixing goals for Galaxies in the universe, have a look at my essay and

      For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general relativity, space and time are convertible in to each other.

      Many papers and books on Dynamic Universe Model were published by the author on unsolved problems of present day Physics, for example 'Absolute Rest frame of reference is not necessary' (1994) , 'Multiple bending of light ray can create many images for one Galaxy: in our dynamic universe', About "SITA" simulations, 'Missing mass in Galaxy is NOT required', "New mathematics tensors without Differential and Integral equations", "Information, Reality and Relics of Cosmic Microwave Background", "Dynamic Universe Model explains the Discrepancies of Very-Long-Baseline Interferometry Observations.", in 2015 'Explaining Formation of Astronomical Jets Using Dynamic Universe Model, 'Explaining Pioneer anomaly', 'Explaining Near luminal velocities in Astronomical jets', 'Observation of super luminal neutrinos', 'Process of quenching in Galaxies due to formation of hole at the center of Galaxy, as its central densemass dries up', "Dynamic Universe Model Predicts the Trajectory of New Horizons Satellite Going to Pluto" etc., are some more papers from the Dynamic Universe model. Four Books also were published. Book1 shows Dynamic Universe Model is singularity free and body to collision free, Book 2, and Book 3 are explanation of equations of Dynamic Universe model. Book 4 deals about prediction and finding of Blue shifted Galaxies in the universe.

      With axioms like... No Isotropy; No Homogeneity; No Space-time continuum; Non-uniform density of matter(Universe is lumpy); No singularities; No collisions between bodies; No Blackholes; No warm holes; No Bigbang; No repulsion between distant Galaxies; Non-empty Universe; No imaginary or negative time axis; No imaginary X, Y, Z axes; No differential and Integral Equations mathematically; No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to General Relativity on any condition; No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models; No many mini Bigbangs; No Missing Mass; No Dark matter; No Dark energy; No Bigbang generated CMB detected; No Multi-verses etc.

      Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true, like Blue shifted Galaxies and no dark matter. Dynamic Universe Model gave many results otherwise difficult to explain

      Have a look at my essay on Dynamic Universe Model and its blog also where all my books and papers are available for free downloading...

      http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/

      Best wishes to your essay.

      For your blessings please................

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      An example from chemistry about the cardinality class of molecules. The cardinality of the stuff we commonly count things like "rocks, trees, blades of grass, bees,...." which are made of atoms and molecules is called Avorgado's number about 6x1023 (6 followed by 23 zeros). In chemistry we know that "Avorgado's number of atoms or molecules each acting classically makes a mole (or a heap) of substance. Nature counts the substance of common-day events using moles, while we see ordinary stuff such as 5 cats, 2 oranges, etc, Chemistry says what we actually have is so many moles of substance interacting which doesn't match how we see what "numbers" are attached to which "objects". For example, when a tree burns to the ground, the identity of the tree within the flow of time is lost (recall trees are human "objects" so can "end"), but when viewed as so many moles of substance interacting, the actual number of moles always stays the same or in other terms the number of moles (or the n-event) is conserved over any duration. So when in chemistry we say 1,2,3,4,5,.... we mean 1 mole, 2 moles, 3 moles, ..... and using this as the Mathematical Induction MI series we can justify the conservation of the number of moles over duration. As we know that one mole consists of 6x1023 objects by observation.

      An example from chemistry about the cardinality class of molecules. The cardinality of the stuff we commonly count things like "rocks, trees, blades of grass, bees,...." which are made of atoms and molecules is called Avorgado's number about 6x1023 (6 followed by 23 zeros). In chemistry we know that "Avorgado's number of atoms or molecules each acting classically makes a mole (or a heap) of substance. Nature counts the substance of common-day events using moles, while we see ordinary stuff such as 5 cats, 2 oranges, etc, Chemistry says what we actually have is so many moles of substance interacting which doesn't match how we see what "numbers" are attached to which "objects". For example, when a tree burns to the ground, the identity of the tree within the flow of time is lost (recall trees are human "objects" so can "end"), but when viewed as so many moles of substance interacting, the actual number of moles always stays the same or in other terms the number of moles (or the n-event) is conserved over any duration. So when in chemistry we say 1,2,3,4,5,.... we mean 1 mole, 2 moles, 3 moles, ..... and using this as the Mathematical Induction MI series we can justify the conservation of the number of moles over duration. As we know that one mole consists of 6x1023 objects by observation.

        Dear Jouko Harri Tiainen,

        Visible rocks, trees, bees, or any visible objects are not made of invisible atoms. All real objects have a visible surface.

        I merely wish to point out that "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

        Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

        The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

        A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

        Joe Fisher, Realist

        17 days later

        Jouko,

        That was a great essay, and just what science needs, giving some logical coherence (and to logic as well as physics!). Sure I had to read slow, and re-read parts, but that's how it SHOULD be for content of true value. However, and I've suffered from the same, just the mention of 'quantum' turns most away as QM's weirdness is both irrational and poorly understood. That may be why you're placed so low, but my score should help correct that.

        I agree your analysis of Sorites Paradox, and discuss logic myself, this year, last year and previously, introducing a law the replace the other and related problematic Law of the Excluded Middle. This year I show a ClassicQM production of QM's Cos2 curves representing the "Law of the Reducing Middle" i.e. bineries and integers are unreal digitisations to simplify mathematics, whereas nature is 'smooth' distribution at reducing scales.

        We do seem to think somewhat alike, outside the box the big boxes that held the small boxes came in, and I think you may be one of the few with enough imagination and logical understanding to follow the complex ontological (and dynamic geometrical) construction in mine. I hope you get a chance to read, score and comment on it.

        Well done and thanks. Very best

        Peter

        8 days later

        Hello Jouko,

        I do wish you could have made your essay more like "determinism for dummies". However I did muddle through. I even started laughing when I realized that the child in the backseat of the car screaming "are we there yet" is actually giving the driver a quantum mechanical problem :)

        I believe your conclusion to the question: How can mindless mathematical laws give rise to aims and intention? is that there cannot be a determinate mathematical path to the goal. However, there can be a probabilistic mathematical result.

        For something not quite as logical as your essay, please visit my essay and say hello. You may also enjoy my website www.digitalwavetheory.com where I try to avoid the logic problem by making motion on the quantum level discontinuous.

        Thanks for your essay,

        Don Limuti

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