Dear Dr. Karl Coryat ,

You wrote: "What does fundamental mean? Is it possible to assess the fundamentality of competing theories? Can such an analysis steer us toward a fundamental theory of the world?"

My research has concluded that Nature must have devised the only permanent structure of the Universe obtainable for the real Universe existed for millions of years before man and his finite complex informational systems ever appeared on earth. The real physical Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

A very engaging essay, Karl - thank you

I have liked Edwin Abbot's story since early in my life and always go back to it.

There is a particular issue with the story, when taken as a physical analogy, however.

The assumption (which you also make in your story) is that the beings in Flatland or Oscillatorland actually live in a 2- or 1- dimensional world (respectively). A better conceptualization is that they have always thought they lived in a 2- or 1- dimensional world, without any additional physical dimensions, however they actually live in a 3- or 2- dimensional world and had only developed theories that presumed the lower dimensionality.

In your essay you seem to suggest that GR is the 'best' (in a parsimonious way) theory possible - as you state "A more parsimonious description of the mechanism that produces gravitational (and relativistic) phenomena likely could not be given." However this suggests an end to looking for a better solution. I do not think that is a good suggestion for science. It also does not go well with historical evidence, since just about all theories have been overturned in science (what would make GR different?).

As a hypothetical situation, what if we actually did live in a 4-dimensional world (with 4 physical dimensions, so 'spacetime' would be 5 dimensions)? We have convinced ourselves that we only live in 3-dimensions and so cannot conceive (like Flatlanders) that a 4th physical dimension exists, nor could we believe that our bodies could extend in such a direction (this is what is missing from Edwin Abbot's great story).

Add one more item from your essay - that we have a multitude of different theories that pertain to many different aspects of our world without a unifying relationship or mechanism. These theories might be about particles or proteins or human organs or an entire human body or our environment, like the weather, or our planet or the stars or galaxies. Many of these theories tend to be about specific levels of scale of our world and each level is described as if it takes up the volume of our 3-dimensional world.

If we consider that all these levels might actually be connected along a continuum, then a point at one level can be connected to points at every other level, producing a line perpendicular to all our traditional 3 dimensions - a line in a 4th dimension. This would mean we all would (hypothetically) exist as 4-dimensional beings with a 'scale depth'.

Now we could start considering how all those theories, at each level, might be part of a larger more parsimonious theory and that some mechanism produces actions across these levels. If this direction is relative, then movement up would seem like an object expands and movement down would seem like an object contracts (maybe like Lorenz contraction). Neutrinos could be understood as passing 'under us' in scale rather than 'through us'. The apparent motion of scale would be exponential such that a constant velocity in this direction would seem like a constant acceleration in our current 3-dimensional projective world. A movement only in this 4th dimension (and not our other 3) would then appear as if the object is not moving, yet has a force applied to it.

In many ways science can be considered the breaking out of pre-conceived conventional ideas. So maybe there is a more parsimonious solution to gravity than GR (or maybe we have mis-interpreted that 4th dimension).

I would ask that you allow for other possibilities than those we have currently developed.

Take care,

Don

    Hi Don, thank you for the comment and for reading my essay. You make some excellent points. I didn't intend to imply that GR is the final answer on anything. It may very well be, as you suggested, that spacetime curvature in fact is not an extant mechanism in the world, just as (we now assume) Newtonian gravitational force is not an extant mechanism in the world. However, if spacetime curvature is a real mechanism, then the theory describing it is (probably) a fundamental description of what causes the apparent curvature of geodesics near masses or energies. Of course we'd then need to study the mechanism responsible for this curvature, and so on. KC

    Dear Karl Coryat,

    You do an excellent job justifying your four pillars. You seem to view general relativity as geometry. Do you believe that mass is geometry as well? If I were to contrast GR with another gravitational theory it would be post-Newtonian based or gravito-magnetic fields and gravitational disturbances traveling at the speed of light, as recently shown by the colliding neutron stars, rather than Newton's action-at-a-distance. However the nine page limit bears down hard on us all and your contrast gets your point across nicely.

    As energy-density in Cartesian coordinates corresponds to curvature in GR, do you believe that curvature and density could be inversely related. Once we can map a linear coordinate system over a constant density field, might we distort this geometry to map the non-homogeneous density? What physical difference is implied by the different mappings?

    You mentioned twice above that rather than pushing your own ideas, this time "I wanted to write something that people could apply to their own theories...". This time I've done the same thing. Rather than push forward with my own theory, I've backed up to look at one of our "fundamental" theories.

    I found your 1 1 Oscillatorland example interesting, as my essay focuses on oscillators as clocks, but clocks subject to local conditions. This contrasts with space-time symmetry while retaining relativistic particle physics intact. I would be very interested in your response to this approach.

    My best regards,

    Edwin Eugene Klingman

      6 days later

      Dear Karl Coryat,

      The Four Pillars of Fundamentality as suggested by you " general, parsimonious, relational, and mechanism-suggestive." Are exactly correct my dear Karl Coryat.....

      .......... I request you to explore your nice method to Dynamic Universe Model also.... I highly appreciate your essay and hope for reciprocity.

      I request you please spend some of the valuable time on Dynamic Universe Model also and give your some of the valuable & esteemed guidance

      Some of the Main foundational points of Dynamic Universe Model :

      -No Isotropy

      -No Homogeneity

      -No Space-time continuum

      -Non-uniform density of matter, universe is lumpy

      -No singularities

      -No collisions between bodies

      -No blackholes

      -No warm holes

      -No Bigbang

      -No repulsion between distant Galaxies

      -Non-empty Universe

      -No imaginary or negative time axis

      -No imaginary X, Y, Z axes

      -No differential and Integral Equations mathematically

      -No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to GR on any condition

      -No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models

      -No many mini Bigbangs

      -No Missing Mass / Dark matter

      -No Dark energy

      -No Bigbang generated CMB detected

      -No Multi-verses

      Here:

      -Accelerating Expanding universe with 33% Blue shifted Galaxies

      -Newton's Gravitation law works everywhere in the same way

      -All bodies dynamically moving

      -All bodies move in dynamic Equilibrium

      -Closed universe model no light or bodies will go away from universe

      -Single Universe no baby universes

      -Time is linear as observed on earth, moving forward only

      -Independent x,y,z coordinate axes and Time axis no interdependencies between axes..

      -UGF (Universal Gravitational Force) calculated on every point-mass

      -Tensors (Linear) used for giving UNIQUE solutions for each time step

      -Uses everyday physics as achievable by engineering

      -21000 linear equations are used in an Excel sheet

      -Computerized calculations uses 16 decimal digit accuracy

      -Data mining and data warehousing techniques are used for data extraction from large amounts of data.

      - Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true....Have a look at

      http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/p/blog-page_15.html

      I request you to please have a look at my essay also, and give some of your esteemed criticism for your information........

      Dynamic Universe Model says that the energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation passing grazingly near any gravitating mass changes its in frequency and finally will convert into neutrinos (mass). We all know that there is no experiment or quest in this direction. Energy conversion happens from mass to energy with the famous E=mC2, the other side of this conversion was not thought off. This is a new fundamental prediction by Dynamic Universe Model, a foundational quest in the area of Astrophysics and Cosmology.

      In accordance with Dynamic Universe Model frequency shift happens on both the sides of spectrum when any electromagnetic radiation passes grazingly near gravitating mass. With this new verification, we will open a new frontier that will unlock a way for formation of the basis for continual Nucleosynthesis (continuous formation of elements) in our Universe. Amount of frequency shift will depend on relative velocity difference. All the papers of author can be downloaded from "http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/ "

      I request you to please post your reply in my essay also, so that I can get an intimation that you replied

      Best

      =snp

      6 days later

      Dear Fellow Essayists

      This will be my final plea for fair treatment.,

      Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

      All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

      Only the truth can set you free.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

        Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

        That doesn't logically follow, Joe. Perhaps your ideas would be better understood if you didn't make such bare assertions about logic and what seems obvious to you, and instead helped people see the flow of your ideas. That said, I'm glad that this year you're putting forward more humble comments. They will help you moving forward. Cheers, KC

        Karl,

        Your essay is excellent. It sets criteria for what is fundamental and examines them in detail. The criteria "general, stingy, relational and mechanism-suggestive" appear to sort observations into fundamental and not. I have no argument with it and since that was the essay contest subject please take what I say next as an aside.

        Erwin was also a hero in my view. Please search for "MIT22 Evolution of Function Chapt 6" and look for the various equations that come from his work. The equation labelled Unitary evolution is simply P=exp(iEt/H)*exp(-iEt/H). The coursework reference goes on the write psi(t) and psi(x) as separate equations. I found the E's that belong in this equation. There are several and together they represent the neutron. Here is one of the quarks inside the neutron:

        The values of E that satisfy P=1 are 13.797, 5.076, 101.947 and 0.687 MeV. For example 5.076 MeV comes from the equation E-2.02e-5*exp(12.432).

        Neutron Mass Model

        N for Neutron Energy Interactions Expansion Gravitational

        mass Energy S field Energy Mass Difference KE Weak Stron

        ke MeV G field MeV MeV MeV MeV MeV MeV N MeV N MeV

        Quad 2 13.43 13.80 15.43 101.95 13.80 88.84 101.95

        12.43 5.08 10.43 0.69 -0.69

        There are 4 E's, and P=1=psi*psi*psi*psi=exp(13.797)*exp(5.076)*exp(-101.947)*exp(-0.687). The imaginary numbers multiply and divide out and each Et/H=1. I labelled the E's mass, kinetic energy, strong field, and grav field. They describe what I call a quantum circle. The equation E=e0*exp(N) that gives the E's is easily derived from the Schrodinger equation but I have never found any other use of the equation in physics. [Barbee, Gene H., Schrodinger Fundamentals for Mesons and Baryons, October 2017, vixra:1710.0306v1].

        I understood from your essay that the Schrodinger equation didn't represent a circle. But look at the following analysis of forces for the quark above.

        Gravity

        Unification Table cell ax74 Strong proton

        (Mev) (MeV)

        Field Energy E (MeV) 102.63 2.732

        Particle Mass (mev) 13.797 938.272

        Mass M (kg) 2.46E-29 1.6726E-27

        Kinetic Energy (mev) 88.84 10.112

        Gamma (g)=m/(m+ke) 0.1344 0.9893

        Velocity Ratio v/C=(1-(g)^2)^.5 0.9909 0.1456

        R (meters) =((HC/(2pi)/(E*M/g)^0.5) 1.9226E-15 7.2238E-14

        Force Newtons F=E/R*1.6022e-13 8.55E+03 3.6557E-38

        Inertial F Nt F=M/g*V^2/R 8.40E+03 3.6557E-38

        Force=HC/(2pi)/R^2=3.16e-26/Range^2 (nt) 8.55E+03 6.1

        n n

        time=2pi R/C (sec) 4.03E-23 1.51E-21

        e*t (mev-sec) 4.136E-21 4.136E-21

        e*t/h 1.00000 1.00000

        Coupling constant derived from this work 1.00000 1/exp(90)

        Derived c^2 (E*R) mev m 1.97E-13 1.19E-51

        Derived c^2 joule m 3.16E-26 1.91E-64

        Derived exchange boson (mev) 1.026E+02

        *published c^2 mev m 1.17E-51

        *published c^2 joule m 1.87E-64

        *Range 8.82E+25

        The forces are balanced and mass plus kinetic energy is related to field energy that forms a circle.

        The neutron model gives a gravitational energy that used in the right geometry give the gravitational constant G. The details are in my essay but the column on the right above represents a gravitational orbit. It is long range and weak because gravity interacts with many particles but it is a circle just like the quark circle. I think Einstein might be surprised by this. All the forces including gravity are curved space and time but gamma doesn't produce the curvature, it simply accompanies velocity. I have applied what I describe as the neutron model treasure box to atomic physics, cosmology, high energy physics and even color vision. It has never failed to produce important answers. I would like your opinion of what curves space and time, for example; could it simply be a wave moving through its time cycle?

          Hello Gene -- I want to thank you for your compliment, but I must admit I could not do your question justice by attempting to answer it. Best of luck in the contest! KC

          Hi Edwin, it's good to see you doing well in this year's contest. Thank you for the comment. Mass as geometry...interesting concept. I've often questioned the often-assumed causality of mass on spacetime, wondering instead if spacetime curvature "causes" mass, or there really is no causation involved. I'm behind in my reading but I look forward to reading your essay, and best of luck! KC

          5 days later

          Ok, I understand. Just in case others see my post I will post a corrected equation for P.

          Correction: There are 4 E's, and P=1=psi*psi*psi*psi=exp(13.43)*exp(12.43)*exp(-15.43)*exp(-10.43)=1.

          E1=2.02e-5*exp(13.43)=13.797, E2=2.02e-5*exp(12.43)=5.076,

          E3=2.02*exp(15.43)=101.95, E4=2.02e-5*exp(10.43)=0.69 (all in MEV)

          Dear Karl,

          I really liked your essay. It is intriguing, ingenious, well written. I especially appreciated the invention of Oscillatorland with its Linestein and Rowdinger, a combination of imagination and rigor. Congratulations for the beautiful work,

          Giovanni

            7 days later

            Dear Mr. Coryat,

            thanks for sharing such an enjoyable essay. It is well written and contrarily to some of your commentators, it actualy hits the nail on the head.

            I feel that your four points are reasonable, although they remain on the theoretical, or better, conventional level. Expecially, parsimony can be dengerous to be necessarily enforced.

            Anyway, I liked your essay, I feel it gives a genuine contribution to the contest. I am rating it high.

            My approach is very different from yours, yet I hope you will find the time to look though my essay as well.

            Best wishes,

            Flavio

              Flavio, Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right about parsimony not being enforcable. There needs to be a rigorous theory of parsimony! Something to think about.

              I will look at your essay very soon and look forward to it! Thanks again.

              Karl

              9 days later

              Dear Karl,

              I am so glad I managed to get to your essay! It is simultaneously deeply insightful and a genuine hoot to read!

              I'm still scratching my head a bit on how exactly Oscillatorland relates to your four pillars, but reading about Linestein and company gave me good vibes. And it reminded me that any space with less than three dimensions creates a number of interesting constraints for its inhabitants. I still recall the day I realized that in two-dimensional Flatland having an alimentary canal is a bit of a problem, since it splits you into two halves. That puts a whole new spin on eating!

              Getting back to Oscillatorland, did you hear about the unfortunate intellectual split that developed between Linestein and the early quantum physicists of that linear world? They theorized that at sufficiently small scales of space and time, their line continuum could break apart briefly and then reconnect in ways that would allow a small object to "tunnel" from one side of a larger object to the other side. Linestein was appalled at this proposed violation of the continuity of their world, and famously stated that "God does not play splice with the universe." :)

              Regarding your four pillars:

              #1 Generality: Yes! And you stated the idea with such nice simplicity. Dare I say that the word "generality" covers a lot of things at once?

              #2 Parsimonious: I'm jealous, that would have been so much better of a word for me to use than "binary conciseness," if I had just thought of it early... :)

              #3 Relational: This one was the biggest surprise for me, yet it rings both true and important. I think there is a habitual tendency in most of us (certainly in myself, I just saw it in action!) to equate fundamentalism with reductionism, an thus towards the contemplation of isolated entities and objects with smaller and smaller scopes.

              That is precisely why I found this pillar so exceptionally interesting! You literally flipped some of my thinking upside down, and I suspect (hope!) the change is irreversible.

              That's because I'm a huge advocate of the importance of networking. In one of my post comments (I haven't a clue which one) I suggested that the reason why human intelligence can be so hard to distinguish from that of other clever creatures is because it is the language-mediated networking of human intelligence across space and time that makes it unique, rather than the intelligence of any single individual. Intelligence is relational! And in fact, even without in our own heads it seems to be true, since the rather profound asymmetries in the cognitive abilities of the two hemispheres of our brains seems to enable a sort of two-member "community conversation" whose synthesis is more powerful, more positively synergistic, than would be possible with identical brain halves.

              I would even speculate further that it is heterogeneous relationships that for the heart of your concept of relational fundamentalism. When absolutely identical components participate in a relationship, such as bosons in a condensate, they produce no new complexity and no new innovations. They are like the sterile Creationism, adding no new perspectives or ideas, since they all see the same world.

              But otherwise identical fermions must by definition always differ slightly in location, or velocity, or both. This physics-deep contrariness literally forces diversity and emergent complexity upon the material (fermionic) world. But more importantly, if distant parts of that world interact -- if somehow they form relations with each other through some form of long-distance networking -- then the underlying fermionic drive encourages these more complex fermionic complexes, such as people, to reach still higher and more complex levels of abstraction and innovation. Niches interact with niches to form still more niches at higher levels, until the new niches that are so complex and unexpected that their form could never even have been conceived using only the lower-level levels. Paramecia just do not dream of televisions, even during their most animated chemical-exchange-based discussions.

              (And very likely we are totally missing out in major way on the intelligent-in-other-ways global conversations in which heterogeneous bacterial communities engage. After all, the repeated success of these globally linked communities at defeating the scourge of antibiotics was very unlikely to have been accomplished without some pretty intense and intensely networked conversations.)

              I should note also that unlimited diversity is called chaos, so a careful balancing act is always required for effective relational networking. There must be enough simplicity and commonality to allow distant parts to, well, relate to each other in ways that carry meaning and direction. Or stated using an everyday but accurate example, smartphones need to be similar enough to share software. But to build a vibrant, niche-generating relational community, there must also be enough diversity to enable the emergence of new ideas. And so smart phones differ in the apps they contain, the places to which they travel, and the ways in which their owners use them, resulting after sharing in a much richer overall community.

              But wait! Isn't your relational fundamentalism supposed to apply to physics, too, and not just emergent complexity, which tends towards the future?

              That is, if I may play devil's advocate for a moment, isn't your relational fundamentalism principle nothing more than a belated biological bandage that only comes into play after some deeper set of unchanging principles has big banged itself into existence? Is your principle truly fundamental in general, that is in keeping with your #1 principle, or is it just an incomplete rule that applies only after all the "really hard physics stuff" has already been accomplished?

              I don't think so. In fact, I think you nailed something that pierces the very heart of how our universe works! But how so? What do I mean by that?

              What I mean is this: Space itself, which is if you stop and think about it an amazingly complex package of highly unexpected properties, is the first and in many ways ultimate example and enabler of relations. Space literally defines both what it means for two entities to be "separate" -- without which there would be no entities to relate! -- and "next" to each other, that is, to be in a relationship.

              Thus I would propose that far from being some sort of belated bio-only principle, your concept of relational fundamentalism was the origin of the kind of universe in which we now find ourselves. It is embedded so deeply within space itself (and also time, but that's a somewhat different story) that we simply don't see or notice it, a fish in water, a human in space.

              If space is the fabric of relations, if some vast set of relations spread out literally across the cosmos, defining the cosmos, are the true start of reality instead of the deceptive isolation of objects that these relations then make possible, what are the components of that relation? What are the "bits" of space?

              I don't think we know, but I assure you it's not composed of some almost infinite number of 10-35 meter bubbles of Planck foam. Planck foam is nothing more than an out-of-range, unbelievably extrapolated extremum created by pushing to an energetically impossible limit the rules of observation that have physical meaning only at much lower energies. I suspect that the real components of space are much simpler, calmer, quieter, less energetic, and well, space-like than that terrifying end-of-all-things violence that is so casually called "Planck foam."

              I'll even venture a guess. You heard it here first... :)

              My own guess is that the units of space are nothing more radical than the action (Planck) conjugation complements of the angular momenta of all particles. That is, units of pure direction, which is all that is left after angular momentum scarfs up all of the usual joule-second units of action, leaving only something that at first glance looks like an empty set. On closer examination, though, a given spin must leave something behind to distinguish itself from other particle spins, and that "something" is the orientation of the spin in 3-space, a ghostly orthogonality to the spin plane of the particle. But more importantly, it would have to be cooperatively, relationally shared with every other particle in the vicinity and beyond, so that their differences remain valid. Space would become a consensus fabric of directional relationships, one in which all the particles have agreed to share the same mutually relative coordinate system -- that is, to share the same space[/]. This direction consensus would be a group-level form of entanglement, and because entanglement is unbelievably unforgiving about conservation of conserved quantum numbers such as spin, it would also be extraordinarily rigid, as space should be. Only over extreme ranges would it bend much, to give gravity, which thus would not be an ordinary quantum force like photon-mediated electromagnetism. It would also be loosely akin to the "holographic" concept of space as entanglement, but this version is hugely simpler and much more direct, since neither holography, nor higher dimension, nor Planck-level elaborations are required. The entanglements of the particles just create a simple, easily understood 3-space network linking all nodes (particles).

              But space cannot possibly be compose of such a sparse, incomplete network, right?

              After all, space is also infinitely detailed as well as extremely rigid, so there surely are not enough particles in the universe to define space in sufficient detail! Many would in fact argue that this is precisely why any phenomenon that creates space itself must operate at the Planck scale of 10-35 meters, so that the incredible detail needed for 3-space can be realized.

              Really? Why?

              If only 10 objects existed in the universe, each a meter across, why would you need a level of detail that is, say, 20 orders of magnitude more detailed for them to interact meaningfully and precisely with each other? You would still be able to access much higher levels of relational detail, but only by asking for more detail, specifically by applying a level of energy proportional to the level of detail you desired. Taking things to the absolute limit first is an incredibly wasteful procedure, and incidentally, it is emphatically not what we see in quantum mechanics, where every observation has a cost that depends on the level of detail desired, and even then only at the time of the observation. There are good and deeply fundamental quantum reasons why the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) that found the Higgs boson is 8.6 km in diameter!

              The bottom line is that in terms of as-needed levels of detail, you can build up a very-low-energy universal "directional condensate" space using the spins of nothing more than the set of particles that exist in that space. It does not matter how sparse or dense those particles are, since you only need to make space "real" for the relationships that exist between those particles. If for example your universe has only two particles in it, you only need one line of space (Oscillatorland!) to define their relationship. Defining more space outside of that line is not necessary, for the simple reason that no other objects with which to relate exist outside of that line.

              So regardless of how space comes to be -- my example above mostly shows what is possible and what kinds of relationships are required -- its very existence makes the concept of relations between entities as fundamental as it gets. You don't end with relations, you start with them.

              Um... uh, where was I? I have this odd feeling that I've gotten just a little off track on something important... Oh yes, Pillar #4!

              #4 Mechanism-Suggestive. I love this one! For me it brought to mind Maxwell's early adamant insistence that if he could not come up with a good physical model of every aspect of his emerging electromagnetic model. (This was the same model that later became Maxwell's four equations, after Heaviside massively reworked them). He succeeded, and the mechanical "vortex cell" models that he created provided the insights he needed to translate his models into differential equations.

              So at last, I again say thanks for a great essay! It was fun to read, and for me transformative in the sense that I now interpret "relations" as the foundation of space itself, and thus fundamental to the very existence of our universe. I never would have looked at relational fundamentalism that way had it not been for your bold willingness to assert that something many would consider to be fundamental only to biology as meriting inclusion in a very short list of fundamental attributes. Nice work!

              Cheers,

              Terry

              Fundamental as Fewer Bits by Terry Bollinger (Essay 3099)

              Essayist's Rating Pledge by Terry Bollinger

                Hi Terry, Thanks for the extensive and thought-provoking comment! I didn't tip my hand about what I think might be the ultimate general, parsimonious, relational, and mechanism-suggestive theory of the world (Instead, I wrote & self-published a book about it). But, I think the world is ultimately informational. I believe Wheeler was right with "it from bit," but we just haven't figured out how to apply that to the world, certainly not on a practical level.

                I'm glad that you like the direction of this essay. My hope was to challenge people to scrutinize their own theories with these pillars, and if their top-level picture of the universe is truly relational, then I think they might have something. Wheeler said "no laws," and I think that basically means no absolutes. I have various visualizations: a bucket of water that started out with the surface flat but now has perturbations, or a network of friends who owe each other money, having started out financially neutral. If we could imagine the universe as that bucket of water without the water, or the financial network without the friends, we'd get close to something like how the universe operates, in a completely relational manner.

                Thanks again for the comment, and best of luck in this contest!

                Karl

                Karl,

                What a delightfully entertaining and technically accurate essay! You get right to the heart of Linestein, er, Einstein's quest for simplicity all the way down.

                I am in sync with your reducing least action to 1 dimension on a manifold. Suppose that mechanism is a simple harmonic oscillation -- I think it can be observable as a soliton wave.

                Well earned highest score.

                Best,

                Tom 3124

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