Thanks Peter.

No, I did not read your essay last year, must do it now.

It was an awful lots of job behind this, sometimes I am a bit ?

I would have wanted to explore more on the term 'complexity as fundamental principle' giving emergent properties...maybe even behind gauge symmetries - it must be Another time.

Deformed symmetries are interesting. They form new 'stable' ones, protected, until again broken in an endless chain.

I have also made a study of quantum interactions and measurements, but I became unsure what to Think about it, such a mess. I will read it, yes. Thanks

Ulla Mattfolk.

Dear Ulla Marianne Mattfolk

Wonderful discussion on Life.... Life is indeed made of atoms, but are atoms the fundamental process of life? No, of course not...... What differ "living" atoms from ordinary ones? The answer is not in the matter itself, but what is the "tensions", "drive" or "life force". What may be the drive? We can see it as a process of limited "energy", expressed as number mitoses, quality of Life. We can see it as "negentropy" with entropy as opposite pole. Synergy maybe? We can see it as "work for free", differentiation through error correction, which we call "adaptation" of a stressed system................. Keep it up sir, continue your thinking.... by the way...

Here in my essay energy to mass conversion is proposed................ yours is very nice essay best wishes .... I highly appreciate hope your essay and hope for reciprocity ....You may please spend some of the valuable time on Dynamic Universe Model also and give your some of the valuable & esteemed guidance

Some of the Main foundational points of Dynamic Universe Model :

-No Isotropy

-No Homogeneity

-No Space-time continuum

-Non-uniform density of matter, universe is lumpy

-No singularities

-No collisions between bodies

-No blackholes

-No warm holes

-No Bigbang

-No repulsion between distant Galaxies

-Non-empty Universe

-No imaginary or negative time axis

-No imaginary X, Y, Z axes

-No differential and Integral Equations mathematically

-No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to GR on any condition

-No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models

-No many mini Bigbangs

-No Missing Mass / Dark matter

-No Dark energy

-No Bigbang generated CMB detected

-No Multi-verses

Here:

-Accelerating Expanding universe with 33% Blue shifted Galaxies

-Newton's Gravitation law works everywhere in the same way

-All bodies dynamically moving

-All bodies move in dynamic Equilibrium

-Closed universe model no light or bodies will go away from universe

-Single Universe no baby universes

-Time is linear as observed on earth, moving forward only

-Independent x,y,z coordinate axes and Time axis no interdependencies between axes..

-UGF (Universal Gravitational Force) calculated on every point-mass

-Tensors (Linear) used for giving UNIQUE solutions for each time step

-Uses everyday physics as achievable by engineering

-21000 linear equations are used in an Excel sheet

-Computerized calculations uses 16 decimal digit accuracy

-Data mining and data warehousing techniques are used for data extraction from large amounts of data.

- Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true....Have a look at

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/p/blog-page_15.html

I request you to please have a look at my essay also, and give some of your esteemed criticism for your information........

Dynamic Universe Model says that the energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation passing grazingly near any gravitating mass changes its in frequency and finally will convert into neutrinos (mass). We all know that there is no experiment or quest in this direction. Energy conversion happens from mass to energy with the famous E=mC2, the other side of this conversion was not thought off. This is a new fundamental prediction by Dynamic Universe Model, a foundational quest in the area of Astrophysics and Cosmology.

In accordance with Dynamic Universe Model frequency shift happens on both the sides of spectrum when any electromagnetic radiation passes grazingly near gravitating mass. With this new verification, we will open a new frontier that will unlock a way for formation of the basis for continual Nucleosynthesis (continuous formation of elements) in our Universe. Amount of frequency shift will depend on relative velocity difference. All the papers of author can be downloaded from "http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/ "

I request you to please post your reply in my essay also, so that I can get an intimation that you replied

Best

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    Ulla, What were the simulations by Joseph (Kover?)? I like doing computer simulations myself and am always interested to hear what other people have tried.

    Ulla, Hi, its good to see you here.

    I think when Schrodinger wrote his book about life, many physicists thought he had gone mad, but now his ideas about information in biology are a hot topic. Very few people have the originality of thought to be able to jump so far ahead of the crowd. These ideas can only get more important as technology begins to impact on them.

    Thanks for a wondereful essay.

      Peter, I Think your vote did not arrive :)

      I try to find time to read your essay now. I do a work where stackings are important.

      Thanks Phil.

      I have some years ago looked at Schrödingers view on negentropy and it did not make sense. Negentropy in biology is something much more fantastic than just seen as opposite to entropy. I will certainly come back to this later.

      But now his aperiodic Crystals seems very up to date, but we shall not limit them to chromosomes. There are so much in biology that is asymmetric and chiral so it must be some bigger thought behind. It is like molecules in biology are skewed with new properties, so left and right forms have very different properties. In biology we talk of niches, it looks like a way to avoid competition...very much like information, or maybe raw 'consciousness'.

      Also the low energy limits are interesting. Like the symmetries were emergent, and here I Think biology can be a template for physicists. But this must be much more explored Before I can say much.

      Thanks. Don't forget to vote :) I need them...

      No good situation for me, maybe too much offending heading? I thought it was a good one...

      Ulla.

      I must add Susskinds new paper, he should read my eassy...

      He talks of - a fundamental law of quantum mechanics---the tendency for complexity to grow. - https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.01198v1

      To understand GR we must understand QM, I have said some time now...

      There are a number of correspondences between quantum mechanics and gravity that are suggestive of a much deeper connection than we might have imagined several years ago [1]. ER=EPR is one [2], and the relation between the generic growth of quantum complexity and the expansion of space behind the horizons of black holes is another [3]. There are more that I will publish in a series of short notes. In this rst note I will point out a relation between ordinary gravitational attraction and the general properties of quantum chaos.

      Ye, stay alert on Susskind...

      I must add Susskinds new paper, he should read my eassy...

      He talks of - a fundamental law of quantum mechanics---the tendency for complexity to grow. - https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.01198v1

      To understand GR we must understand QM, I have said some time now...

      There are a number of correspondences between quantum mechanics and gravity that are suggestive of a much deeper connection than we might have imagined several years ago [1]. ER=EPR is one [2], and the relation between the generic growth of quantum complexity and the expansion of space behind the horizons of black holes is another [3]. There are more that I will publish in a series of short notes. In this rst note I will point out a relation between ordinary gravitational attraction and the general properties of quantum chaos.

      Ye, stay alert on Susskind...

      5 days later

      Hello Ulla,

      Happy to see your essay,congratulations for your essay relavant about the life.

      Best Regards

        One add more.

        http://members.cbio.mines-paristech.fr/~jvert/svn/bibli/local/Bhalla1999Emergent.pdf

        it has become increasingly clear that signaling pathways interact with one another and the final biological response is shaped by interaction between pathways....

        In biological systems, signal transmission occurs mostly by two mechanisms:

        (i) protein-protein interactions and enzymatic reactions such as protein phosphorylation and dephosphorylation

        (ii) or protein degradation or production of intracellular messengers.

        Enzymes as 'almost living' substartes interest, also learning and memory functions.... I start thinking of AI... and 'lifting mechanisms'.

        The bifurcation point T is important because it defines threshold stimulation. Also type of feedback, 'learning' and 'memory', properties that emerge in the reactions etc.

        Science 283, 381 (1999);

        Upinder S. Bhalla and Ravi Iyengar

        Emergent Properties of Networks of Biological Signaling Pathways

        Thanks.

        What is 'negentropy' has been a headache of mine.

        Now I Think negentropy must be referred to quantum states and their information content as 'possibilities'. As instance in the ER=EPR analogy it is used, but not the Word negentropy, because it is a controversy yet.

        There pure states are defined by no difference in entropy, but it also contains the 'codes' for 'reality' and it gives a 'compactification' through the error correction, or state function reduction, as

        "the Ryu-Takayanagi formula and the negativity of tripartite information... p 19.

        For a general (mixed) tripartite quantum state, I_3 can take any real value. It is zero, though, for any tripartite pure state of ABC, since in that case SABC = 0 and e.g. regions A and BC, being complementary, have the same entropy and therefore make cancelling contributions to I_3."

        This means we have a pure quantum state. No thermodynamics? Or no difference between entropy - negentropy? We have a state with all possibilities, no state function reduction.

        Or said another way, no error correction yet. What cause the error correction here? It is the 3-surface of mixed states...

        Preskill et co.: "Thus, for a holographic state and for any partition of the boundary into four regions A;B;C;D; nonzero contributions to I_3(A;B;C) can arise only from the distilled multipartite states trapped in residual regions."

        Distilled = condensed, I think. What enters the eq.? Time? (that is also speed?)They think QG?

        Negativity is from the RT-formula, they say.

        "For holographic states and codes, the non-positivity of I_3 is not ensured in general, because of the potential (small) violations of the RT formula. In some special cases, though, RT holds exactly, and the non-positivity of I_3 then follows."

        the potential (small) violations of the RT formula - is the state function reduction, I Think.

        https://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.06237.pdf

        http://tgdtheory.fi/public_html/articles/tensornet.pdf

        P. Hayden, M. Headrick, and A. Maloney, Holographic mutual information is

        monogamous, Phys. Rev. D 87 (2013) 046003.

        L. Susskind and E. Witten, The Holographic bound in anti-de Sitter space,

        hep-th/9805114.

        Ulla,

        Thanks for your post. I confirm I hadn't yet rated it, I've been reading & modulating, but no need to modulate your prov score so should help you.

        Shame you didn't understand parts of mine; Lets try a simple basis;

        If Alice and Bob get sent polar opposites but have a dial which can switch them independently, we don't need spooky action at a distance! (I'm sure you got the rest ok, just rotations on all 3 spherical axes, and Maxwell's TWO pairs of inverse Cos momentum distributions on a sphere surface - at any rad). Any better?

        Hang on tight, if Chandra Roychoudhuri can mass produce his coffins it seems we may be in for a major paradigm change in physics in just 3 or 4 eons!

        Very best.

        Peter

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          Thanks :)

          I have had your file open the whole day...as also some other Days...

          The sub-quantum' or root function is beginning to see light. It is the monopole as instance, as a bending loop, rotated. The most surprising (or not surprising at all?) is it is an solitonic expansive state. What cause the expansion? Maybe just the vanishing complexity? It must go into i-World, as I don't understand the 'annihilation' aspect at all...

          "the Higgs process or fermion pair production 'popping up' from nowhere' implies a smaller perhaps more fundamental 'sub quantum' scale of rotations as a 'sub-ether'. but we principally constrain ourselves to the testable realm and scale of condensed matter. This domain limit is also the lower end of electromagnetic (EM) coupling."

          This is what I talk of too. But the scenario you ask for is beyond this, and reversed actually, see the finnish scientist as instance the links here https://people.aalto.fi/index.html?profilepage=isfor#!vladimir.eltsov

          There is btw. very Little discussion about a non-Higgsian material emergence today.

          About motion I would suggest harmonic oscillation as one good candidate to explore in GR.

          https://www.google.fi/search?q=orbital+angular+momentum+Bloch+sphere&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw4Z7usLDZAhVJsKQKHQUTBSsQBQgkKAA&biw=1280&bih=855#

          On the vector model of angular momentum, Peter Saari, 2016 fig 2. you see if you have it on a Bloch sphere, you get Three rotations.... hope you can open it.

          The problem with Bob and Alice is the assupmption the entanglement is broken by gravity, but at the same time gravity cannot break it otherwise.... maybe an informational theoretic approach would be fine? The head/tail approach is like coin flipping and has Little information, you need something more complex, and I have thought a bit about the Three-states. Can they be entangled? They should?

          Also amplitude is an important factor, at least in the semiconductors. It can maybe give some flip-flopping?

          I see you have the same problem as me, too Little space, but we do as well as we can. Your text reminds me of someone, Mr S.

          Thanks, it would be interesting to talk more with you.

          Ulla Mattfolk.

          I put this also on your wall.

          Ulla,

          Thanks -(copied from mine)

          Not found Sari yet, but others, and also the 'Poincare Sphere' "complex superposition of two orthogonal polarisation states". So there all along!

          https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1107006341

          Did you see my last years finalist essay? The two figs explain it simply.

          (PLUS the cognative dissonance most accredited physicis can't seem to overcome so halting any advancement!, and do look at & comment on my feedback loop/ quantum switch cognition derivation.)

          http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2755

          very best

          Peter

          ps RNA mutation also seems to emerge - in that 2017 essay.

          Ulla has presented a large topic in a small space, showing that conventional science is incomplete concerning life and conscious thought, while giving some possibilities about what the missing parts might contain. The essay shows originality and a the results of a long study on the leading edge of small scale physics and biology as they interact together.

            In terminology non-commuting characters usually means there is no way to measure or specify all of the properties at the same time.

              Thanks Jerry.

              It was truly a mare to get it compressed so much, every possible extra Word is removed.

              I wanted to show on a possible way out of the 'conciousness-dilemma', and now I also have began to understand the state function reduction in a new way, which is good. The measurement problem and uncertainty is a mess today.

              Once I used to be a very mainstream biologist. I am also very Visual, need Concrete frames, to stand on Earth.

              Thanks Jerry for all discussions.

              Ulla.

              Thanks again.

              Ye, the non-commuting charachters are very important. Gödel is often referred to in this relation. It also shows on the problems we have with math.

              If we Think of Life it is maybe one reason why it has been thought to be an 'epiphenomena'. It is so hard to define, and the common criterias are far from enough. What is mind? How can we interact? How can we make progressive thoughts, meditate, get 'enlighted'? Maybe we have strings into universe as the schamans thought, and we are their endpoints? We cannot know. But the thought is there, as we have so hard to make conscious Machines, emotional Machines. What is consciousness really? It is evident it is not only an information processing, but it need 'jumps' in different frames, and recognition of the frames.

              As instance now I research the triqubit state, the entanglement into a tripartite frame. It must contain so much more information than a simple dual entanglement. Also the question about complexity as a quantum charachter is intesresting, as a 'negentropic' frame.

              Ulla.