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This essay argues that unless the universality of knowledge could be proven, we have no choice other than admitting the contextual validity of knowledge and points out that physics and mathematics of 20th and 21st centuries do not encourage pursuing universal truths and the best we can achieve is knowledge consistent within a given context or paradigm. Therefore as the answer to the question "what is fundamental" this essay proposes that what is fundamental is always context dependent and no universally fundamental things can be found.

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Dear Narada Yasaskantha Wickramage,

FQXi.org is clearly seeking to confirm whether Nature is fundamental.

Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe must consist only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Only the truth can set you free.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Dear Narada Yasaskantha Wickramage,

thank youy for your interesting essay.

I am quite sure you could be interested in my ideas as well in the essay entitled "Demolishing prejudices to get to the foundations", where, we argue that "what is fundamental?" is method-dependant, and in saying this, I think we are addressing one instance of what you call context-dependancy.

Your essay is unfortunately missing the references.

I look forward to discuss our essay in comparison, if you will find time to go through mine.

Best wishes,

Flavio

Dear Narada Wickramage, wonderful says: "There are no infinite number ofpeople in the world and the consent received from a finite number of humans does not make something auniversal truth (other than creating a false sense of objectivity)." However, in the context of the modern development of science, it is necessary to recognize the principle of the identity of space and matter Descartes' as essential. New Cartesian physics, which is based on the identity space and matter of Descartes', wants to be the theory of everything. According to Descartes, space is matter, and matter is space that moves. Thus, space is the foundation for constructing fundamental theories.

Look at my essay, FQXi Fundamental in New Cartesian Physics by Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich Where I showed how radically the physics can change if it follows this principle. Evaluate and leave your comment there. Then I'll give you a rating as the bearer of Descartes' idea. Do not allow New Cartesian Physics go away into nothingness.

Sincerely, Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich.

    I have said the following in my essay:

    "General relativity and quantum mechanics are not compatible because they are based on two different sets of assumptions and it is clear that these assumptions are conflicting. Almost always scientific breakthroughs are made by changing the assumptions and therefore investigating the assumptions is as important as empirical validation and the scientific method must accommodate scrutinizing, challenging and altering the assumptions in addition to verification of hypotheses experimentally. Rebuilding general relativity and quantum mechanics (which are, at the moment, seriously incompatible especially over distances of the order of Plank length) based on a common set of assumptions might help resolving the incompatibilities but even then theory of everything will not be encountered because a universal theory of everything which can explain everything in the universe requires universal set to exist." (page 3)

    There have been many attempts to reconstruct general relativity and quantum mechanics based on varying sets of assumptions and as I have explained above if these two theories can be rebuilt based on a common set of assumptions (which are not conflicting) then the current incompatibilities between the two theories can be resolved. Therefore scientific method should accommodate scrutinizing, challenging and altering the existing assumptions (in addition to experimentally verifying hypotheses.)

    If your attempt to rebuild general theory of relativity and quantum mechanics ensures that the two theories share a common set of assumptions (which are not conflicting), it can be assured that you have a good chance of resolving the incompatibilities between the two theories provided that the new theory is experimentally verifiable and verified. However empirical validation of theory does not make it an objective truth because hypotheses based on completely flawed theories can also get proved empirically (as got demonstrated in 1846 when the Neptune hypothesis got proved). Experimental verification of hypotheses only ensures that the incompatibilities between theories and observations are minimal and theories are successful.

    I thank for the time spent for reading my essay, comment you made and the opportunity given for further explaining my point.

    Narada Wickramage (author)

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    The idea that physics encourages "pursuing universal truths" is an ancient philosophical idea that was abandoned many time ago.

    Yes, the general theory of relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible, but this is not anything special; the history of science is full of cases where two or more incompatible theories co-exist until finally the incompatibility is solved by developing a new theory. Special relativity was born of the incompatibility between Maxwellian electrodynamics and Newtonian mechanics. This is one of the ways that science advances, the other way is when some new phenomena is detected that cannot be explained by existing theories.

    Newtonian theory has not been refuted, simply its field of validity reduced.

    "set the wheels in motion inside the minds of intellectuals who were disturbed by the empirical confirmation of hypotheses based on false theories and one such genius was Kurt Gödel". The only intellectuals disturbed would be those that do not understand science. Theories as Newtonian theory are not false, they continue to work nicely within their margin of validity, because those 'hypotheses' continued being valid empirically today. That is the reason why we continue teaching Newtonian physics in Schools and Universities.

    "Even today, main stream physicists do not believe that what they discover is not universally valid". When a physicist proposes some fundamental principle, she or he does as a tentative hypothesis if there is no reason to doubt on the universality of the principle. If the next century new experimental data is found that disagrees with the principle then the region of validity of the principle is reduced, the new data is analyzed, and some new principle compatible with the new data is developed. Again there is no problem here with the standard scientific method way of work.

    "Scientists, of course, know that chemistry is more fundamental than biology and physics is more fundamental than chemistry. Certain things can be derived from some other things and if something is derived from another, the latter is more fundamental than the former." Maybe for scientists that still believe on the older reductionism vision of science; the rest of scientists know that biology is not applied chemistry and that chemistry is not applied physics.

    "A thing that is defined is defined in terms of things other than that thing. The crux of the matter is how well we can define things. For instance, we can define z in terms of a, b, c, d, etc. Symbolically, z = f(a, b, c, d, ...) if z can be defined in terms of a, b, c, d, etc. the next question is how we are going to define a, b, c, d, etc. It is clear that on the one hand if a, b, c, d, etc. are not well defined, it is not possible to claim that z is well defined. And on the other hand, a, b, c, d, etc. cannot be defined because if they are to be defined then they have to be defined in terms of other things such as a in terms of a1, a2, a3, a4, etc. and b in terms b1, b2, b3, b4, etc. and so on and so forth. This 'infinite alterity' might give rise to religious concepts such as divinity, etc. but what is clear is this unending sequence entailing definitions confirms that there is no thing that is well defined with sufficient rigor and clarity. It is clear that anything that remains undefined becomes latent assumptions and what is left over without being properly defined prevents building universally valid knowledge."

    Any physical theory is constructed in terms of elementary concepts, not defined in terms of anything more fundamental and characterized only by formal properties laid down for them and in terms of derived concepts. The lack of definition for the elementary concepts do not invalidate the rigor with the which we can define the derived concepts.

    You quote Born, but you don't give the whole quote, which is: "I am now convinced that theoretical physics is actually philosophy. It has revolutionized fundamental concepts, e.g., about space and time (relativity), about causality (quantum theory), and about substance and matter (atomistics). It has taught us new methods of thinking (complementarity), which are applicable far beyond physics."

    He really means that modern physics was touching fields of knowledge previously restricted to philosophers. But this is not exclusive to modern physics, but just the history of science. Science has been always increasing its field of applicability and reducing the scope of philosophy.

    Yes, Richard Feynman said that about philosophy of science, scientists, ornithology, and birds. He was absolutely correct. I am a scientist and philosophy of science has been totally useless to me, I would even say reading philosophical works have been totally counterintuitive because as Feynman stated "Philosophers are always on the outside making stupid remarks".

    The idea that physics encourages "pursuing universal truths" is an ancient philosophical idea that was abandoned many time ago.

    Yes, the general theory of relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible, but this is not anything special; the history of science is full of cases where two or more incompatible theories co-exist until finally the incompatibility is solved by developing a new theory. Special relativity was born of the incompatibility between Maxwellian electrodynamics and Newtonian mechanics. This is one of the ways that science advances, the other way is when some new phenomena is detected that cannot be explained by existing theories.

    Newtonian theory has not been refuted, simply its field of validity reduced.

    "set the wheels in motion inside the minds of intellectuals who were

    disturbed by the empirical confirmation of hypotheses based on false theories and one such genius was Kurt Gödel". The only intellectuals disturbed would be those that do not understand science. Theories as Newtonian theory are not false, they continue to work nicely within their margin of validity. because those 'hypotheses' continued being valid empirically. That is the reason why we continue teaching Newtonian physics in Schools and Universities.

    "Even today, main stream physicists do not believe that what they discover is not universally valid". When a physicist proposes some fundamental principle, she or he does as a tentative hypothesis if there is no reason to doubt on the universality of the principle. If the next century new experimental data is found that disagrees with the principle then the region of validity of the principle is reduced, the new data is analyzed, and some new principle compatible with the new data is developed. Again there is no problem here with the standard scientific method way of work.

    "Scientists, of course, know that chemistry is more fundamental than biology and physics is more fundamental than chemistry. Certain things can be derived from some other things and if something is derived from another, the latter is more fundamental than the former." Maybe for scientists that still believe on the older reductionism vision of science; the rest of scientists know that biology is not applied chemistry and that chemistry is not applied physics.

    "A thing that is defined is defined in terms of things other than that thing. The crux of the matter is how well we can define things. For instance, we can define z in terms of a, b, c, d, etc. Symbolically, z = f(a, b, c, d, ...) if z can be defined in terms of a, b, c, d, etc. the next question is how we are going to define a, b, c, d, etc. It is clear that on the one hand if a, b, c, d, etc. are not well defined, it is not possible to claim that z is well defined. And on the other hand, a, b, c, d, etc. cannot be defined because if they are to be defined then they have to be defined in terms of other things such as a in terms of a1, a2, a3, a4, etc. and b in terms b1, b2, b3, b4, etc. and so on and so forth. This 'infinite alterity' might give rise to religious concepts such as divinity, etc. but what is clear is this unending sequence entailing definitions confirms that there is no thing that is well defined with sufficient rigor and clarity. It is clear that anything that remains undefined becomes latent assumptions and what is left over without being properly defined prevents building universally valid knowledge."

    Any physical theory is constructed in terms of elementary concepts, not defined in terms of anything more fundamental and characterized only by formal properties laid down for them and in terms of derived concepts. The lack of definition for the elementary concepts do not invalidate the rigor with the which we can define the derived concepts.

    You quote Born, but you don't give the whole quote, which is: "I am now convinced that theoretical physics is actually philosophy. It has revolutionized fundamental concepts, e.g., about space and time (relativity), about causality (quantum theory), and about substance and matter (atomistics). It has taught us new methods of thinking (complementarity), which are applicable far beyond physics."

    He really means that modern physics was touching fields of knowledge previously restricted to philosophers. But this is not exclusive to modern physics, but just the history of science. Science has been always increasing its field of applicability and reducing the scope of philosophy.

    Yes, Richard Feynman said that about philosophy of science, scientists, ornithology, and birds. He was absolutely correct. I am a scientist and philosophy of science has been totally useless to me, I would even say reading philosophical works have been totally counterintuitive because as Feynman stated "Philosophers are always on the outside making stupid remarks".

    7 days later

    Dear Prof Narada,

    Thank you for a nice essay. You are correct in saying that GR and QM have different fundamental assumptions. Have a look at my essay again with different assumptions...

    I hope you will not mind that I am not following main stream physics...

    By the way...Here in my essay energy to mass conversion is proposed................ yours is very nice essay best wishes .... I highly appreciate hope your essay ....You may please spend some of the valuable time on Dynamic Universe Model also and give your some of the valuable & esteemed guidance

    Some of the Main foundational points of Dynamic Universe Model :

    -No Isotropy

    -No Homogeneity

    -No Space-time continuum

    -Non-uniform density of matter, universe is lumpy

    -No singularities

    -No collisions between bodies

    -No blackholes

    -No warm holes

    -No Bigbang

    -No repulsion between distant Galaxies

    -Non-empty Universe

    -No imaginary or negative time axis

    -No imaginary X, Y, Z axes

    -No differential and Integral Equations mathematically

    -No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to GR on any condition

    -No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models

    -No many mini Bigbangs

    -No Missing Mass / Dark matter

    -No Dark energy

    -No Bigbang generated CMB detected

    -No Multi-verses

    Here:

    -Accelerating Expanding universe with 33% Blue shifted Galaxies

    -Newton's Gravitation law works everywhere in the same way

    -All bodies dynamically moving

    -All bodies move in dynamic Equilibrium

    -Closed universe model no light or bodies will go away from universe

    -Single Universe no baby universes

    -Time is linear as observed on earth, moving forward only

    -Independent x,y,z coordinate axes and Time axis no interdependencies between axes..

    -UGF (Universal Gravitational Force) calculated on every point-mass

    -Tensors (Linear) used for giving UNIQUE solutions for each time step

    -Uses everyday physics as achievable by engineering

    -21000 linear equations are used in an Excel sheet

    -Computerized calculations uses 16 decimal digit accuracy

    -Data mining and data warehousing techniques are used for data extraction from large amounts of data.

    - Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true....Have a look at

    http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/p/blog-page_15.html

    I request you to please have a look at my essay also, and give some of your esteemed criticism for your information........

    Dynamic Universe Model says that the energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation passing grazingly near any gravitating mass changes its in frequency and finally will convert into neutrinos (mass). We all know that there is no experiment or quest in this direction. Energy conversion happens from mass to energy with the famous E=mC2, the other side of this conversion was not thought off. This is a new fundamental prediction by Dynamic Universe Model, a foundational quest in the area of Astrophysics and Cosmology.

    In accordance with Dynamic Universe Model frequency shift happens on both the sides of spectrum when any electromagnetic radiation passes grazingly near gravitating mass. With this new verification, we will open a new frontier that will unlock a way for formation of the basis for continual Nucleosynthesis (continuous formation of elements) in our Universe. Amount of frequency shift will depend on relative velocity difference. All the papers of author can be downloaded from "http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/ "

    I request you to please post your reply in my essay also, so that I can get an intimation that you replied

    Best

    =snp

    8 days later

    Dear Narada

    If you are looking for another essay to read and rate in the final days of the contest, will you consider mine please? I read all essays from those who comment on my page, and if I cant rate an essay highly, then I don't rate them at all. Infact I haven't issued a rating lower that ten. So you have nothing to lose by having me read your essay, and everything to gain.

    Beyond my essay's introduction, I place a microscope on the subjects of universal complexity and natural forces. I do so within context that clock operation is driven by Quantum Mechanical forces (atomic and photonic), while clocks also serve measure of General Relativity's effects (spacetime, time dilation). In this respect clocks can be said to possess a split personality, giving them the distinction that they are simultaneously a study in QM, while GR is a study of clocks. The situation stands whereby we have two fundamental theories of the world, but just one world. And we have a singular device which serves study of both those fundamental theories. Two fundamental theories, but one device? Please join me and my essay in questioning this circumstance?

    My essay goes on to identify natural forces in their universal roles, how they motivate the building of and maintaining complex universal structures and processes. When we look at how star fusion processes sit within a "narrow range of sensitivity" that stars are neither led to explode nor collapse under gravity. We think how lucky we are that the universe is just so. We can also count our lucky stars that the fusion process that marks the birth of a star, also leads to an eruption of photons from its surface. And again, how lucky we are! for if they didn't then gas accumulation wouldn't be halted and the star would again be led to collapse.

    Could a natural organisation principle have been responsible for fine tuning universal systems? Faced with how lucky we appear to have been, shouldn't we consider this possibility?

    For our luck surely didnt run out there, for these photons stream down on earth, liquifying oceans which drive geochemical processes that we "life" are reliant upon. The Earth is made up of elements that possess the chemical potentials that life is entirely dependent upon. Those chemical potentials are not expressed in the absence of water solvency. So again, how amazingly fortunate we are that these chemical potentials exist in the first instance, and additionally within an environment of abundant water solvency such as Earth, able to express these potentials.

    My essay is attempt of something audacious. It questions the fundamental nature of the interaction between space and matter Guv = Tuv, and hypothesizes the equality between space curvature and atomic forces is due to common process. Space gives up a potential in exchange for atomic forces in a conversion process, which drives atomic activity. And furthermore, that Baryons only exist because this energy potential of space exists and is available for exploitation. Baryon characteristics and behaviours, complexity of structure and process might then be explained in terms of being evolved and optimised for this purpose and existence. Removing need for so many layers of extraordinary luck to eventuate our own existence. It attempts an interpretation of the above mentioned stellar processes within these terms, but also extends much further. It shines a light on molecular structure that binds matter together, as potentially being an evolved agency that enhances rigidity and therefor persistence of universal system. We then turn a questioning mind towards Earths unlikely geochemical processes, (for which we living things owe so much) and look at its central theme and propensity for molecular rock forming processes. The existence of chemical potentials and their diverse range of molecular bond formation activities? The abundance of water solvent on Earth, for which many geochemical rock forming processes could not be expressed without? The question of a watery Earth? is then implicated as being part of an evolved system that arose for purpose and reason, alongside the same reason and purpose that molecular bonds and chemistry processes arose.

    By identifying atomic forces as having their origin in space, we have identified how they perpetually act, and deliver work products. Forces drive clocks and clock activity is shown by GR to dilate. My essay details the principle of force dilation and applies it to a universal mystery. My essay raises the possibility, that nature in possession of a natural energy potential, will spontaneously generate a circumstance of Darwinian emergence. It did so on Earth, and perhaps it did so within a wider scope. We learnt how biology generates intricate structure and complexity, and now we learn how it might explain for intricate structure and complexity within universal physical systems.

    To steal a phrase from my essay "A world product of evolved optimization".

    Best of luck for the conclusion of the contest

    Kind regards

    Steven Andresen

    Darwinian Universal Fundamental Origin