Why Time Might Not Be an Illusion

Dear Harrison Crecraft,

Let us try it one more time.

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before "lots of self-published articles claiming to solve (finite) physics' problem with (finite INVISIBLE) time and (finite INVISIBLE) nonlocality were ever published." Even before you wrote: "Here's another. However, I don't know of any other that questions the foundational assumptions of (finite INVISIBLE) physics and then starts from (finite) clearly-stated postulates."

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

THE REAL UNIVERSE CONSISTS ONLY OF ONE SINGLE UNIFIED VISIBLE INFINITE SURFACE OCCURRING ETERNALLY IN ONE SINGLE INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED MOSTLY BY FINITE NON-SURFACE LIGHT.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Dear Harrison Crecraft,

Let us try it one more time.

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before "lots of self-published articles claiming to solve (finite) physics' problem with (finite INVISIBLE) time and (finite INVISIBLE) nonlocality were ever published." Even before you wrote: "Here's another. However, I don't know of any other that questions the foundational assumptions of (finite INVISIBLE) physics and then starts from (finite) clearly-stated postulates."

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

THE REAL UNIVERSE CONSISTS ONLY OF ONE SINGLE UNIFIED VISIBLE INFINITE SURFACE OCCURRING ETERNALLY IN ONE SINGLE INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED MOSTLY BY FINITE NON-SURFACE LIGHT.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Hi Marcel,

Physics describes a system within an instant of irreversible time, and your question is definitely relevant. I need to ponder a bit.

Joe,

I don't think I disagree with anything here. The article expresses an objective realism without need for observers--if that is what you are trying to say.

Harrison,

My entry is at https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2977 .

Thanks for the update. Will get back to you on this

Thanks,

Marcel,

Dear Harrison Crecraft,

I am not trying to "say" anything. Your misinterpretation that my sublime post was somehow a (finite) "article expresses an (finite)) objective realism without (finite) need for (finite) observers--if that is what you are trying to say.

Let us try it one more time.

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before "lots of self-published articles claiming to solve (finite) physics' problem with (finite INVISIBLE) time and (finite INVISIBLE) nonlocality were ever published." Even before you wrote: "Here's another. However, I don't know of any other that questions the foundational assumptions of (finite INVISIBLE) physics and then starts from (finite) clearly-stated postulates."

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

THE REAL UNIVERSE CONSISTS ONLY OF ONE SINGLE UNIFIED VISIBLE INFINITE SURFACE OCCURRING ETERNALLY IN ONE SINGLE INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED MOSTLY BY FINITE NON-SURFACE LIGHT.

If you agree with me, why are you misconstruing what I actually wrote?

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Dear Harrison Crecraft,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before you wrote that: (finite) Physics describes a (finite) system within an (finite) instant of (finite INVISIBLE) irreversible time

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Dear Marcel-Marie LeBel,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before Harrison Crecraft wrote that: (finite) Physics describes a (finite) system within an (finite) instant of (finite INVISIBLE) irreversible time

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

I'll not defend the Minkowski block universe other than to recognize it as a step in the process of development of Relativistic measurement. It firstly assumes, and that assumption has been trivialized as a matter of expediency, that the scale of a span of length in space is identical to the scale of a span of duration in time. Realistically we must then assume that such a one to one correspondence of scale must exist only as a special case, perhaps for example as localized to a quantum state of equilibrium at the core of a material particle. Globally however, it removes the relationship of time, and that of space, from the Relativity in physical processes.

I think that what causes much perplexion for many in addressing Relativistic discourse is that our human experience preconditions us to think of both time and space as simply 'being there', that processes happen in that background. But what the simple geometry of SR actually reveals is that both time and space interact with physical processes. Not even time acts instantaneously in its effect on a process, there is not only the rate of a span of duration, but also a rate at which the effect of that span interacts with space in the process. jrc

Re. spacetime and the Grandfather paradox: "We still don't know how to deal with that one," T. Short

How to deal with it. Spacetime is generated through observation. It is produced by the amalgamation of information obtained from potential sensory data that has been received together i.e. within a small finite interval. Outside of that amalgamation construct and the observer, is EM radiation and other potential sensory information, that is distributed in uni-temporal (same time everywhere ) space. Neither what is seen in the spacetime construct nor what is encoded in the potential sensory data is material objects. Grandfather, the flesh and blood man, is a material object. That material object itself is not within spacetime, the visual product, but within uni-temporal space. For the material man there is no other time to be at, so he can not travel to the past, even though images that appear to depict the past can be formed using received information.

The above explanation allow unambiguous sequential change of material reality and processes, while still allowing non simultaneity of perceived (or device product) events related to the receipt and processing of signals , and prohibits temporal paradox

Dear John R. Cox,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before any humanly contrived misinformation concerning a finite abstract "Minkowski block universe" was ever published.

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

The only thing that am causing y'all any perplexity am your obstinate refusal to understand that reality am infinite, and your trying to explain reality using finite language information cannot sensibly succeed.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Dear Georgina Woodward,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before any humanly contrived misinformation concerning a finite abstract "spacetime and the Grandfather paradox" was ever published.

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

The only thing that am causing y'all any perplexity am your obstinate refusal to understand that reality am infinite, and your trying to explain reality using finite language information cannot sensibly succeed. I do hope that you understand.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Joe you are a source of perplexity. You seem oblivious to the significance of the solution I have provided. Dispelling the paradoxes of relativity while still allowing there to be non simultaneity of observed events but also allowing unambiguous sequential foundational passage of time. Your own "revelation" does not fit with mainstream physics and does not provide solutions to specific problems in physics.

You use the phrase real visible structure. Yet the 'universe' you describe does not permit the process of vision to occur. There are lots of different things to consider, perception, visual products, sensory stimuli and the potential sensory information received, and material objects and particles, sources of the potential sensory information they reflect or emit allowing transmission from source to observer.

I have recently watched a video called 'Mind the gap' about the difference between perception and external reality. Perception being an interpretation formed from sensory inputs and application of prior learning. We do not experience what 'is there' but a reasonable supposition of the possible causes of the inputs received. That is why we can come up with such different conclusions about how the universe functions, and have different experiences of the same events..

While two equally useful explanations can be ranked so that the simplest is probably more likely correct, two explanations, one of which solves multiple problems and the other does not can not be usefully ranked using their simplicity. They need to be ranked according to usefulness. I am not seeking peace of mind in the certain knowledge of being a part of an infinite surface, and so your explanation is of no use to me, nor, I should think, anyone else concerned about the physics of the universe(s) we (humankind) inhabit physically and mentally.

Dear Georgina Woodward,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before your surface wrote on a surface; "Joe you are a source of perplexity. You seem oblivious to the significance of the solution I have provided." REALITY CANNOT POSSIBLY BE DEPENDANT ON ANY HUMAN BEING'S PRESENTATION OF FINITE MISINFORMATION. REALITY AM NOT A FINITE MYSTERY THAT HAS TO BE SOLVED BY HUMAN BEINGS.

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Joe, my concern has been with understanding, in particular, time. Your explanation does not help explain what time is and how it fits within physics. You say 'infinite surface' existed millions of years ago but do not say whether that ancient surface still exists or has been recycled into the surface that exists now. Does it exist eternally or is it infinite but ever changing? How do you know? How is vision possible if everything is a part of the surface? You do not seem to make any distinction between 'real': independently existing not imagined, and 'real'; visual product. They are categorically not the same. I think since you use the term 'real visible' it might be helpful to you if you gave the meanings of those words alone and as an aggregate term some deeper thought.

My view on Time is this: The present is a reality filter. Only suitable theories can show in the present, that is, in the Here-and-Now of knowledge, whereby giving a DISPOSTION TO ACTION. False theories are filtered out and discarded in the waste bins called past and future. Theories pretending that the present temporally evolves from the past end up in the past-waste-bin; theories that pretend to predict the future end up in the future-waste-bin. They simply can't show (have effect) in the (any) present (reality), because causality in Hume's sense is not how the world works. Then it follows that in the present nothing can ever be met which we are not aquainted with, one way or another. Theories involving Becoming on the other hand are mere appeals to belief or escapists' domains. Whatever doesn't show in the present is FALSE.

This is why classical physics is time-less. It works at any time, it can be used by everyone, and it mustn't be believed! And - it hasn't been falsified within the range of human EXPERIENCE, the totality of the present.

Hi Heinrich, you wrote "Then it follows that in the present nothing can ever be met which we are not aquainted with, one way or another.". That does not strike me as correct. For example I recall my first encounter with a cigarette rolling machine.. A 'what is it ?' thing. I also remember my first encounter with a multiple lens security camera in a flower bed. Having discounted water droplets because of the dryness of the bed and symmetry of the shimmers my next best guess was a giant spider. Having got out of my car for a better look I was met by the house owner who wanted to know what I was doing, and subsequently said it was a camera. As a small child the temporary holding category 'What is it?' was frequently employed but as an adult it is much less often required, I haven't seen everything existing or that will exist in the world so again encountering something with which I am thoroughly unacquainted is quite likely.

Dear Heinrich Luediger,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before you decided that your (abstract finite) view on (invisible) Time was this: The (abstract) present is a(n) (abstract finite) reality (invisible) filter. VISIBLE INFINITE SURFACE AM UNFILTERED.

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

Dear Georgina Woodward,

Irrefutable evidence exists that conclusively proves that the earth had a real VISIBLE surface for millions of regular Gregorian calendar years before Heinrich provided us with some more finite misinformation. REALITY CANNOT POSSIBLY BE DEPENDANT ON ANY HUMAN BEING'S PRESENTATION OF FINITE MISINFORMATION. REALITY AM NOT A FINITE MYSTERY THAT HAS TO BE SOLVED BY HUMAN BEINGS.

It logically follows that Nature must have designed the only REAL VISIBLE structure of the real planet earth, and the real VISIBLE Universe the real VISIBLE earth am contained in, obtainable.

The real Universe consists only of one real single unified VISIBLE infinite surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated