the gravitation needs a cause that said, that is why we search this quantum gravitation , this weakest quantum force difficutl to renormalise and quantify , because it is not an emergent electromgamtic force for me, I have reached it in changing just the distances and in respecting the newtonian mechanics, this gravitation seems the main chief orchestra and the others forces are just gravitationally emergent in this line of reasoning, that becomes relevamt so to consider these balances between cold and heat , electromagnetism and gravitation, +, ....and if the senses of rotations of 3D quantum spheres are the answer, we can rank all more easily, the gravitation and the time are very simple generally, the complexity appears in the fractalisations of these tools for our universe

About this quantum gravitation, I have seen a relevant paper with Cristi Stoica , by Stephen D. H. Hsu, he utilise the Hilbert spaces, the MWI and the Planck lenghts more the Born rule, the method is very good to read even if it is quantified.The bloch sphere also is taken into account.

I do admit to being inspired by the idea of a Planck scale (

I don't believe in the many world interpretation. There is no empirical evidence for it, and if you think about it, it's ridiculous.

    Hi, I beleive the same, I have just spoken about this paper because several general tools are interesting, but I don t agree with the MWI ,regards

    .... Well, at the moment of creation, there was this process whereby the value of the Planck toggled in order to make place for more stuff... In other words, when the proto-atom was filled, the Planck slid, under constraint, from a normal distribution to a quantized distribution and to, the next Planck value.

    For the new process/new Planck value, the proto-atom appeared empty.

    It was filled again and so on, x times. So, I believe there are a number of overlapping universes 'above and below" ours with different Planck values (differnt span/aplitude of time rate)... How many ??? This one is pure hunch; around 240 . Some number in Garrett Lisi's E8 and in cristallography...

    Marcel,

      Well like you tell, first of all nobody knows what we have like foundamental objects at this planck scale and what is the nain origin of our universe , secondly the model of Lisi is about the E8 and consider the fields and geometrical alg to create the topologies and geonetries with these fields in oscillating points of strings at this planck scale in 1D , it is an assumption not proved , the vaccuum it is the same nobody knows its origin, all what we have like mine are assumptions that we cannot affirm, thirdly the standard seems not complete and we cannot affirm that we have only photons like primoriudal essence and about the begining of this universe, nobody knows what is theis inflation and a before inflation, even the BB is an assumption , to you dear Marcel

      I know even a person having developped farer the E8 with 2 E8 and he has created the TGD topological geonetrodynamics and he consider the cosmic strings and his maths are relevant but all this is an assumption but respectable , but it is an assumption because we cannot affirm that the fields are the main origin like if we had only photons and strings inside and oscillations to create our reality, the cosmic strings it is the same it is an assumptions like the 1D towards the 11D

      I am in contact on facebook with this team of Klee Irwin working on this E8 , with Lisi and Ray Ascheim and David Chester more others, I have discussed a lot with them, their model is an assumption because we cannot affirm I repeat the foudamental objects and the main primoridal origin of this universe , the other facebook contact of this TGD is the professor Matti Pitkanen he is relevant but his model is an assumption also, but his maths are very interesting,

      I have corresponded with Matti Pitkanen for what, 20 years??? It is still calculations ... I proceed by logic applied to the metaphysical requirements of substance and cause.. Say hi to Matti for me..

      Marcel,

        He is relevant in this E8XE8 he has gone farer than the others for me and I respect him and his works a lot , I will tell him hello from you, he lives here in Finland also like me now I have immigrated and I live with Ulla Mattfolk in the forest in a farm and we produce vegetals, Ulla has very interesting general ideas and is a wonderful person

        Dear Marcel, the main problem seems philosophical about this primordial origin, and these foundamental mathematical and physical objects, we have mainly two roads, the fields and oscillations or the particles coded for the main essence and the points,m strings of 3D spheres for the objects, but unfortunally we cannot prove these deep questions due to a lack of knowledges , we cannot see nor these scales nor the philosophical main origin, so all are assumptions simply. But we can try to see the emergent effects and try with maths in correlating the numbers, the fields, the particles, waves and others in a king of probabilistic partition to try to extrapolate the truth but it is so difficult and so beyond our understanding at my humble opinion, we need to know more and utilise the good mathematical tools

        points, strings or 3D coded sphers, sorry I made an error in writing , not of but or

        ...You are lucky to have a Ulla; take good care of here. My Lucie is just that and still after 42 years. We had a bubble/party yesterday with my 3 sons and 3 grandchildren.. That's what a grandfathers day job is about...

        Marcel,

          Yes indeed I am lucky , I take care of her, I love her a lot, I have immigrated 11 months ago, she is happy also with me, we have the same tastes in life, we are in all humility persons universal and altruist and so we are on the same wave lenght, that helps, we are happy with our animals, sheeps, goats, hens, porcs and all our plants in this forest, we live a happy life, she has 4 children , I wish all the best in your life and a happy life with your familly like grandfather, me unfortunally I have lost all my familly, mother,father, godfather , grandmother are dead, my mother 5 years agon, my godfather a suicide 3 years ago and my grandmother 2 years ago, I am alone with two dogs I was in a kind of depression and so sad, here in finland with Ulla I am a little bit better because my life has been very difficult even when I was a child, I was even adapted and I have known this at the funeral of my mother, my father drunk when I was young and was odd with my mother , he is dead when I was 19 years old, I have been educated in the street also with my friends, more a coma at the age of 21 due to epilepsy when I was at university in second in geology I have stopped it before the third because it was difficult after , it needs one year to be better, I take meds now and it is better, I am sometimes sad due to this past but I am better here with ulla, take care,

          If you read carefully my poster... you know there are no particles.... just waves, linear or circular. This is 50 years lost looking for little balls, point particles etc. Yet, QM says all is made of waves! Where did the maths go wrong? As for the spheres, I believe they are Wheeler's quantum foam. An initiator creates the sphere centered on (our) h/2 Planck; it breaks into eight quadrants, each quadrant acting as initiator of more spheres. A process Spontaneous and generating = explosive. The BB was just the beginning of a process still happening right now which we call time. We live in it and are made of it. The universe does not Exist per se; it happens.

          MM

            We cannot affirm you know, you consider before the hypothetical BB and infinite heat and so after you have considered the photons and their oscillations and so thhat the waves and fields create our reality, it is an assumption, you cannot affirm and for me the particles coded are a better explaination because we can have particles without fields but not the opposite, the problem seems philosophical, I beleive that the main problem is the fashion of strings and a problem of interpretation of the waves particles duality, the fields and waves like main origin futhermore have a big philosophical problem considering the evolution because why we evolve ? and why the oscillations cannot stop the sufferings or others if a thing exists beyond our understanding, my model respects the waves particles duality because these 3D spheres are in motions ortations but oscillate also, but like I told, qwe cannot affirm , nobody can affirm, when we affirm these things it is not a humble compiortment because we need proofs, the waves , fields like origin of all are not proved simply , so maybe you could try to ptove your idea and try also to consider these coded particles and the supermatter that I have explained in this central sphere, it is this the secret for me and the 3 main series of coded 3D spheres

            I insist on the fact that we cannot affirm but we must prove, when we affirm assumptions, it is odd for me, we must dpoubt and try to prove and doubt even about our philosophy , because nobody knows the truth, nor about God or not, nor about the primordial origin of this physicality nor about the foundamental objects, I have remarked that the philosophy of fields, waves like origin come from simply this, the thinkers have considered an infinite heat before this BB and after they oscillate it simply and after so they create the fractalisations with the geom alg of this reality and its topologies, geometries, matters and fields, it is an assumption simply because we don t know if this infinite eternal energy is a heat or a consciousness or others and how this thing that we cannoty define transform and code the E to create this universe, we must be humble and we cannot affirm even if we are all persuaded, we must recognise that we don t know simply, if we affirm, it is a vanitious comportment

            the BB also is an assumption even if we have some interestinmg datas about the CMB and the inflation but we cannot affirm simply still, furthermore there are problems philosophical still about the fact to consider only photons like primoridal essence. We need a deeper logic superimposed to balance all our actual model and its electromagnetism and heat, see well my humble reasoning that I don t affirm about this cold dark matter encoded and permitting to balance