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Animal Panorama Fails That Are So Bad They're Good

YouTube video https://youtu.be/7JyslWXH7zQ

Camera observer is moved ,rotated horizontally. Information obtained from EMR input, obtained at different times and observer locations, is "stitched' slice-wise together.

Demonstrates-

The 'animal' product has not and does not materially exist as an animal.

The 'animal" product is a manifestation generated by the camera observer.

If the source of EMR input moves during collection it affects the product generated (using this technique). Product generated by camera observer using information obtained from EMR input.

    The 'stitching' together of different times and locations makes me think about images of massive tilted galaxies. These structures can be very many light years in diameter. The EMR from the furthest away portion will have taken many light years of travel prior to emission of the EMR from the nearest to observer part of the galaxy, if they are to be received together. In which case does the product deserve to be called [image of] an object. When it has never existed at one time as seen. It is often said that looking 'out into' space is like looking back in time. But what is seen is an amalgamation of received information from EMR emitted at different times. A material 4D object will be/is, or ought to be, all that it is at each time rather than partially at many different times as the manifestation produced by the observing equipment. That's the relevance of the panoramic animals. Thoughts?

    If I think of myself as I'd be as a four dimensional object; spanning my growth, development and aging: At any place along the time dimension I am a whole 3D object. Part of the 4D object. I am not a slice of a 3D object. The tilted galaxy image is not the galaxy as it was at any time but a 2d image of a composite 3D appearance. The image formed from received signals is a new product.

    A better premise than the existence of the material Object universe,-Now, would be that material existence does not have a time dimension. From which comes the proposition of the Object universe. Rather than the binary choice of presentism or eternalism, there can be material existence without time dimension and observation products with a time dimension, due to differences in signal transmission time, from material source to observer..

    Hi Amrit,

    I agree that "Time as duration is the result of measurement."

    Your link doesn`t seem to work for me.

    Our conscious minds experience duration elapsing as time passing. We use the conceptual frameworks of past and future as conscious reference points.

    We don`t have time. We have motion.

    Hi Amrit,

    You can find my views expressed under the article, "The Quantum Clock-Maker Investigating Covid-19, Causality, and the trouble with AI."

    I want to say YES! It's not Time, it's Motion.

    A 3 dimensional cube is stationary, motion is the next necessary step for describing the universe. Motion is visible as the 4th dimension (if we want to call it a dimension) not time.

    From this, as I see it, space-time would actually be space-motion.

    But motion is usually the motion of mass and so we come to the possibility that motion-space-mass are a single cohesive unit.

    And from this a surprisingly simple, new theory that brings together the expanding universe, gravity, quantum, Newtonian physics and relativity.

    For more, see article in Medium. Medium link

    Hi S. David Coleman,

    We seem to agree that we don`t have time, we do have motion.

    It`s my view, that the Earth`s rotational motion is the fundamental physical mechanism causing our confusion about the nature of time.

    Hi, we can tell indeed that the motions permit this duration but we must recognise that we have changes and that the evolution seesm essential, yesterday is different than today and different that tomorrow, the time is just a parameter that we have invencted to better understand the interactions and the durations. It is not a force or a particle indeed but we can utilise it in fact in our sciences. The carbon 14 for example proves that this time that we have invented is real in function of course of observations relativelly speaking.If this time didn t exist with the motions, we could not even speak here on face book and we had not a life with a past, a present and a future, we born, we live , we die....

    Hi S. David Coleman,

    It`s my contention that time does not exist as a real thing, but only as a measurement system.

    The Earth`s rotational motion creates a continuously changing environment that repeats the cycle every 24 hours. We use the motion to inform our clocks.

    Our world provides every indication that time is passing.

    Hi Jim, David, Amrit,

    I agree in the sense that this time is a kind of dimension correlated with the motions. Now it becomes very philosophical too about the origin of our universe and how we can consider this time correlated with the multiple dimensions due to our motions and observations but also due to this eternity maybe too ontologically speaking. If e take our newtonian mechanics, or the GR or the minkowski spacetime or the strings or my 3D spheres and the 3 spacetimes, or others we have different intepretations in function of measurements and observations. Max Tegmark has developped some ideas about this in explaining the effects if we consider several dimensions of time with the partial differential equations,I agree with him in the sense that if we had several dimensions, the unstability d be a reality at all scales.That implies even deep problems thermodynamical and entropical. All this imply that the philosophy and the physics , sciences and maths can converge in respecting one dimension of time correlated with the motions and rotations oscillations for me of 3D quantum and cosmological spheres, where the main parameter is a duration , an evolution for the changes and variables. All this imply an important link considering the informations, and main codes , we need so a chief orchestra giving these variables and achanges due to this evolution and the space vacuum seems the key.

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    Hi Steve,

    I don`t speculate that time is "a kind of dimension correlated with the motions."

    If I am to be philosophical about the nature of time, I would say there is no such thing, there is only motion.

    I think it is thus far impossible to show that time exists or that it does not exist (as something other than our own construct). To me, everything leans toward time not existing, except for our own internal sense of it.

    Yes the motion of the earth, also everything else that is in motion which continuously effects everything else. The most interesting thing I've bumped into recently is quantum motion, which is extreme as far as I can tell.

    As I see it quantum motion (the compellation of many tiny motions) is AS INVISIBLE, AS UBIQUTOUS AND AS STEADY AS OUR SENSE OF TIME IS.

    For more see article in Medium

      Hi Jim, yes I understand what you mean, in fact it is just what a clock reads , it is a measurement. In physics we consider it like a scalar foundamental quantity . And this parameter permits simply to understand the motions and so the energies , the fields, the particvles. You know in all the concepts considered in physics like the galilei works or newton or einstein, or in thermodynamics, in quantum mechanics, in electromagnetism dynamics,in cosmology....this time is taken into account.

      If for example you take the quantum mechanics and the quaternions , this time is relevant with this tool of Hamilton because it permits to have a better understanding of rotations. In fact without time we have no rotation nor motion. It is a quantity utilised in physics, a scalar.

      Regards

      Hi Steve,

      Why think in terms of dimensions? In my perspective, there are no such things as dimensions, time wise, or whatever?

      Hi S. David Coleman,

      We can however, imagine what would happen if the Earth did not rotate? A lifetime of looking at glacially paced stars crossing an inky black sky would not equip us for appreciating the luxury of wearing a watch.

      Living on the bright side and not knowing what the Moon or Stars looked like? Would we yearn to own a watch? Would it be hip to own a watch when the Sun didn`t move forever?

      Hello Jim, no dimension , no time ? so lol we don t exist in fact ? the dimensions are for me reals , we live I believe in a pure 3D at all scales and we have invented tools in maths like the other dimensions, but only the 3D exists at my opinion and the motions rotations and this emergent time correlated with these motions simply.