The Castle and elephants; Indescribable, undecidable, un-computable, and unpredictable by Georgina P. Woodward

I'm thinking there may already be an answer to this from the field of Robot vision or from computer film or games animation 'physics'. 3D animation programs such as Unity and Maya have 'physics' that can be applied to creations.I think Blender too. All of them allow different camera views which automatically change how the creation appears. If the answer is not already in those fields, I think it is amenable to experiment. Back to basics rods and clocks

Observation products have to have their own dimensions, which hare not the dimensions of external reality. They have to maintain their orientations and the distribution of their units. That being because they form a mapping (of information obtained by processing of electromagnetic input) and are not, nor are part of, the external, uni-temporal, material reality and so are unaffected by what happens to the content of external material reality.

The orientation of the dimensions of observation products, and distribution of their units must also be independent of the manner in which the signals (that give rise to the sensory information used in generation of the observation product) is received. The mapping given by the dimensions is of the product, after processing, not of the process of potential sensory information receipt.

Peter, thanks for reading the essay and for your comments. Bell's use of the word differentiates those things that are subject to observation or measurement, as opposed to those things that are as they are such as the arrangement of the apparatus, its calibration and settings.

How my usage of "beable" differs: My premise is that all existing things, elements of Object reality, are in their 'wild' condition beables that are as they are, without applied context and perspective. In order to conduct a measurement, what will be measured and how it will be done must be decided. Having established those constraints there is now an observable (something that can be measured) on which the measurement relationship can be established -resulting in a measurement state or value for the particular aspect of the observable selected for investigation. The measured state or value comes into being upon measurement. For example, it is known from relativity that the velocity of an object depends on the relation between observer and observed . Its singular magnitude does not pertain to the object alone, unobserved. In this way there is differentiation between "wild" beables (that are as they are, unobserved), mentally constrained observable, measurable ( particular aspects of the observable that can be measured), and measurements or observations (outcomes of the measurement process). Perhaps it is helpful to think of the observable as a collection of measurables, which may or may not be selected for measurement-rather than a "wild" entity. "Wild "meaning both unconstrained and of many possible values/states, like a wild card or Scrabble blank.

Peter, thank you for contemplating what I wrote.It would have been better if I had stated that measured velocity is not absolute but always relative. It depends upon the sensory input obtained by the observer, which depend upon the where/when of the observer.

You wrote" because the object can be doing a certain propagation speed in a medium," Peter. I'd says it has an un-certain propagation speed, as the speed found depends upon how it is measured. If un-measured the speed attribute has not been acquired. You wrote "two observers approaching it at different speed CAN'T change that velocity "Peter. I agree your two approaching observers do not alter the unmeasured motion of the beable object. But they do obtain different sensory input, processed into different observation products, showing different relative speeds.

...When just a trunk won't do.

Thanks Edwin. I am, though, showing how there can be non-simultaneity from the point of view of different observers of the same event, a happening in material reality -Now. There is -Now, which is the same time everywhere (really real) and the Present now, which is the unique products of processing newly received 'sensory' input.The Object, beable, reality and the observation product Image reality are different but work together without contradiction. As organisms, and observing devices are part of Object reality, their observation p products (image realities) are within Object reality but do not show Object reality as it is. The dimensions of the two kinds of space are different for example.

Georgina Woodward re-uploaded the file Woodward_The_castle_and_ele.pdf for the essay entitled "The Castle and elephants; Indescribable, undecidable, un-computable, and unpredictable" on 2020-04-16 05:27:22 UTC.

Hi Edwin, as you will see from my previous reply I differentiate between the Present now, and Unitemporal -Now. Present, now is the 'what and when' pertaining to products of observation. Experienced if an organism; produced and maybe output by an observing device. Unitemporal-Now is the foundational time, which is temporal expression of the entire configuration of existing things.

I have been busy updating my own essay. I more clearly indicate how it addresses the set topic. I've also added further explanation of my use of 'beable' and the dimensions of observation products.

Please don't be deceived by the elephants. This is a serious essay. I did not want to write a wall of words but something more interesting and attention holding.

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