Respected Prof Butler

This is in continuation to my above post

Thank you for all your best wishes for my essay, I am giving my highest appreciation to your excellent essay

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2. It looks like your hypothesis is still the same and you still have not seen any experimental evidence for the concept that light photon's frequencies are increased when they approach a large mass and are not decreased again as they later travel away from the large mass. I have not seen any such evidence either. ............................. My reply .....................................

How can I? I don't have finance. I retired from my simple steel plant job in 2014. I don't have any earning except my old savings, prices are going up. Where can I get money??? Can you please support me to do this job????

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It is possible to propel two drops of water of equal mass toward each other with very low velocity, such that when they come together, they will form a single larger drop. If it is done in the earth's gravity field you have to be high enough up in the air that they have time to come together before they hit anything else. At a larger scale, many pieces of rock hit the earth every day. Most of them are very small, but some are large enough to cause wide spread damage. I believe that you are right that there will not be any large collapsed lump of all bodies in the universe. The universe will end long before that could possibly happen. ............................. My reply .....................................

In a Static Universe Model, when all bodies left on gravitation they will collapse into a LUMP. But Dynamic Universe model simulations showed when the masses are not EQUAL even to the extent 0.00000000000000001 % (This is the accuracy of My PC, 16 digits) difference in the masses of the individual bodies, they will start rotating about each other and move Dynamically. They will never collapse into lump even after trillions of years. They will be rotating about each other in a Dynamic Equilibrium.

When the bodies are of unequal masses like earth and man or Jupiter and neutrino , the larger mass will change the path of the smaller body depending on its velocity.

Your case of equal water droplets, when they are directed toward each other exactly, they will form a bigger droplet. When there a difference of in their masses even to the extent 0.00000000000000001 %, they will rotate about each other. They will not collapse.

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I am not sure if you are asking me for my email address or my postal address, but if you give me your email address, I will send it to you.

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My address is

SNP.Gupta

1B, Street 57, Sector 8

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India

WhatsApp / Phone: +918770714799

Mail: snp.gupta@gmail.com

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Respected Prof Martin van Staveren,

The following message was sent to me by Professor Paul N Butler to post as reply, he sent me by mail. This problem happened to me also twice

Best Regards

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"Dear Martin van Staveren I have a return comment to you ready to send, but I can't login to my account because it says that it does not recognize my email address. I will get it to you if FQXI gets the problem fixed. If you or anyone else wishes me to send any answers to any comments you send to me on my paper's page before then, you can put an email address in the comment to me and I will send my comment to you that way. This puts me at a great disadvantage in this contest, since you can't make any comments to anyone without being able to first login to your account."

Sincerely,

Paul

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This is a copy of Paul Butler's comment to Martin van Staveren on Mar. 29, 2020.

Dear Martin,

The good thing about solar energy is that it is available everywhere to one degree or another. It gives the greatest year around total at and near the equator, but where I am in the middle of the U.S.A. I could get adequate levels for my needs year around and some excess in the summer half of the year. It should not be much of a problem making enough extra above immediate electrical grid needs to produce enough hydrogen gas in the U.S., but some of it might need to be transported from the southern states to the northern states. Since there are already existent transport networks for natural gas and propane gas, etc., the technology is already there to build the pipelines and truck and train, etc. transport methods needed for hydrogen gas. If natural gas use was discontinued much of the existent natural gas system could be used with some modifications. Homes that now use natural gas could be heated with hydrogen gas as well as with natural gas and they would already be piped into the network. Only minor changes would be needed. Countries located far to the north or south would have the most problems generating enough electricity and hydrogen gas. Canada would be one example of such countries. They might need to import much of theirs' from the countries near to the equator, but there are already large tanker ships that transport natural gas from places with an excess like the U.S. to other countries around the world that need it, so it would not require any new technologies to do it.

My previous papers in this contest from when the contests began to the present, cover much about the structure of field particles, energy photons, and matter particles and you can refer to them to get a more detailed understanding of things, but when I talk about an atom's field structure I am not talking about everything that happens inside an atom, but just the internal flow of field particles within the matter particles that keeps the internal photons in those particles from directly interacting with each other in the nucleus of the atom and their external field particle flows outside the nucleus of the atom that contain the nucleus matter particles from escaping from the nucleus and provide the structure to capture and control electrons outside of the nucleus of the atom. To give a very basic overview, Field particles are composed of simple linear motions that travel in some 3D composite direction with a motion amplitude (speed) that is at or below the speed of light. They don't contain an angular motion like those in energy photons and matter particles. This means that they have such a small interaction cross section that the probability of an individual field particle interacting with anything is so small as not to happen. The interaction cross section is basically the area around the structural point of a particle in which an interaction can occur. The cross section of a field particle is equal to the size of its structural point, which is extremely small. An energy photon not only contains a structural point that is traveling at the speed of light, it also contains a fourth dimensional motion that interfaces with the lower three dimensions at a ninety-degree angle in the same way that the lower three dimensions interface with each other. This motion at ninety degrees to the direction of travel of the photon creates a much greater interaction cross section for a photon, so they can much more likely interact with each other and with matter particles, which also have large angular motions within them and so also have large interactional cross sections. Field particles can interact with each other and with energy photons and matter particles under certain conditions. It is possible to get them to interact with each other when a very large number of field particles are channeled through a small space and aimed at another very large group of field particles coming in the opposite direction, such as when two magnets with like poles facing each other are held close together. They can interact with an electron in an atom when the electron contains more motion than its stable level so that it rides into a more dense field area at a higher level in the atom instead of in the low density field area between two high density field spheres in the atom like it would if it contained the motion quantity that it would normally have according to its mass and positioning relative to other electrons in the atom. In such an interaction the electron gives up its excess motion to a field particle, which would cause the field particle to travel faster than the speed of light, but the excess motion above the speed of light exceeds the transfer threshold to allow motion to travel into the fourth dimension and is transferred into the particle's fourth dimensional motion. This fourth dimensional motion gives it frequency, wavelength, and dynamic mass effects that turn it into an energy photon, which then travels off in some direction away from the atom. Such an electron probably received its excess motion from an earlier interaction with an energy photon, which gave up its fourth dimensional motion to the electron, which caused the photon to be changed into a field particle. In essence field particles make up what could be called the ether, but only interact under certain circumstances such as those mentioned. Fields exist at all size levels of structure and are responsible for joining most things together.

An energy photon contains two simple linear motions. The first is a field particle that travels in some 3D composite direction at the speed of light. The second is a simple linear motion that travels back and forth in the very small fourth dimension. The motion travels first to one end of the fourth dimension and since the dimensional end barrier cannot receive the motion it is reflected back in the opposite direction and travels to the other end of the fourth dimension where the same thing happens. This cyclical back and forth motion cycle continues as long as the motion exists in the fourth dimension. Only the center part of the fourth dimension that is equal in size to the motion that travels in it is connected to our three-dimensional structure. On either side of that a space that is also equal to the size of the motion exists. As the motion reaches one end of the fourth dimension, it moves completely out of our three-dimensional structure. If the photon has an interaction at this point, none of the fourth dimensional motion can be transferred to the interaction, so the photon behaves just like a field particle and will not usually interact when in this condition. As the motion moves toward the center of the fourth dimension some of its motion can transfer during an interaction and when it is in the center position, all of the fourth dimensional motion can be transferred during an interaction. This is when an interaction is most likely to occur. If all of the fourth dimensional motion is transferred to another entity during an interaction, the energy photon changes into a field particle. After the motion begins to pass the center of the fourth dimension some of it passes out of our three-dimensional structure. This decreases the amount of the motion that can be transferred during an interaction until at the far end of the fourth dimension it passes completely out of our 3D structure and again the photon is like a field particle. The motion then begins to travel back into our 3D structure, but in the opposite direction. All of this action generates the photon's sinewave power structure at ninety degrees to its direction of motion at the speed of light. The greater the fourth dimensional motion is, the quicker it travels through its back and forth cycle, which increases its frequency, the greater its fourth dimensional motion the shorter distance the photon can travel in its direction of motion at the speed of light during one cycle and thus decreases its wavelength. The greater the fourth dimensional motion the more motion it can transfer in an interaction, thus increasing its dynamic mass effect in an interaction. This is why a visible light frequency photon can knock an electron out of an atom in the photoelectric effect, but a lower frequency photon cannot.

A matter particle starts out as an energy photon (which, of course, contains a field particle at its base). When the photon receives enough motion to exceed the transfer threshold to transfer motion into the fifth-dimension and comes into contact with an angular motion such as the high-density field spheres near the nucleus of an atom the excess fourth-dimensional motion can travel into the particle's fifth dimension. The interface between the fifth-dimension and the lower three dimensions is very different. When motion is transferred into the fifth-dimension it begins to drain back down into the lower three dimensions in cyclical rotation from one dimension to the second-dimension and then into the third- dimension. The cycle then repeats. The transfer begins in a dimension at a zero level and then increases to a maximum level and then decreases back to a zero level again and overlaps so that just as the transfer into dimension one reaches the maximum level the transfer into dimension two begins and increases to the maximum level just as the transfer to dimension one reaches the zero level or ends. At that same point motion flow into the third-dimension begins and reaches its maximum level just as the transfer into the second-dimension ends. At the same time motion transfer begins again into the first-dimension and the cycle continues to repeat. It is actually somewhat more complex than this, but I can't go into that now. When this motion is transferred into the lower three dimensions it causes the photon to take a three-dimensional curved enclosed path that cyclically repeats. This closed path is what we call a matter particle. The great angular motion that is introduced by the curved path gives the matter particle its three-dimensionally balanced static mass effect. As the motion is transferred into the lower three dimensions the speed of the photon would be increased to faster than the speed of light. This extra speed is, therefore, transferred into the fourth dimension. If the photon's wavelength fits properly into the particle's enclosed path, the angular motion component needed to allow it to travel back into the fifth dimension is present and it then travels into the fifth dimension, so it can then travel back into the lower three dimensions again and the interdimensional transfer cycle is complete and the matter particle is stable. If the photon's wavelength does not fit into the enclosed path properly the angular motion component is not present and the motion cannot travel back into the fifth dimension. It drains completely back into the fourth dimension and the particle becomes an energy photon once again, once all of the excess motion has transferred back into the fourth- dimension and it travels off in some direction. As the matter particle's photon travels, its enclosed three-dimensional path it entrains field particles to travel through that path from an input on one side of the path to an output on the other side. This field flow through the particle is its internal field. The input and output follow the photon as it travels its path and, therefore, continually change their positions on the path. This causes a spherical flow of field particles around the matter particle. The photon's fourth-dimensional motion cycle servos the flow of field particles through the matter particle from a zero-flow level to a maximum flow level and then back to a zero level in a continuous cyclical pattern. The net effect of this is to produce a series of spherical fields around the matter particle that vary from a zero-field flow level to a maximum level and then back down to the zero level. The innermost spherical high-density field contains or traps the matter particle within it. When two matter particles come together with enough kinetic motion to allow them to overcome each other's external fields by passing through them, but don't have enough kinetic motion to allow them to pass back out again, their external fields join together to form a single external field. The innermost high-density sphere contains the matter particles or keeps them from escaping the atom. The internal fields of the matter particles keep the matter particles' internal photons from interacting with each other. The external field spheres attract electrons. As an electron passes through these spherical fields, it begins to be attracted in the opposite direction by the spheres that it has already passed through. When the attraction in both directions is about equal the electron comes to a stop in its travel toward the atom's center in a low-density field area between two high density field spheres. This is its stable position. Its path around the atom is controlled by the field flow around it.

That gives a very basic understanding of the structure and interactions of field particles, energy photons, and matter particles. I have, of course, left out many details, but have tried to give you an idea of how they are constructed and act internally and interact externally with each other. If you understand things at this level, you can see why I said an atom has a complex field structure" and you know more than most of the people on this planet." This has become a very long comment to just cover this much.

As you can see energy photons do not need a medium for wave transfer because they contain internal motions that produce the wave effects.

Time is not a self-existent entity or dimension. It is merely a relationship between a motion and the distance that it travels, which can vary from one motion to another because they can contain different motion amplitude levels. I gave more on this in my comments above to Shawn Halayka on Mar. 22, 2020 and on Mar. 23, 2020 on my paper's site.

I hope these things help.

Sincerely,

Paul

    14 days later

    Thank you for entering the comment that I sent to you via email onto my paper's page as I requested for you to do. I can now login to my account again, so you can send me any comments on this page again if you wish and I will try to respond to them. If there is anything that you would like to know that you would prefer not to have open for all to see, you can contact me at the email address that I gave to you.

    Sincerely,

    Paul

    Dear Satyavarapu,

    Thank you for giving Martin van Staveren my request for him to give me his email address, so I could email my reply to his comment to him when I could not logon to my account. I can now log on again so you can now send me comments again on this page if you wish to and I will try to respond to them. Of course, if there is anything that you would like to talk to me about that you would not want others to see, you can contact me on the email address that I gave to you. Would you mind if I enter my reply to your last comment to me that I emailed to you on this page for others to see also? I also just checked and don't have the email from you that contains your new paper. You can email it to me at the address that I gave to you in my email to you.

    Sincerely,

    Paul

    7 days later

    This is a copy of my comment to Cristinel Stoica on her paper's page on Apr 19, 2020

    Dear Cristnel,

    I read your paper and find it to be very interesting. It appears that you have the understanding that each thing has an internal structure or nature that gives rise to the types of interactions that it can have with other things and what the possible outcomes from those interactions can be. This internal structure is composed of two parts, which are the basic material(s) or substance(s) that the thing is composed of and the way that the material(s) or substance(s) are put or joined together in the thing to make it, so that it behaves in the way that it does in external interactions with other things.

    From observation, it is easy to see that the structure of the whole creation is composed of many structural levels joined together to form a complex hierarchical overall structure. As an example, at the highest hierarchical structural level of large scale things that we can see and manipulate readily, they are often composed of many smaller structures that we can see to be different from each other, such as a rock with a vein of iron rust in it, etc. all joined together into the single rock. You can define its structure at this level to be all of the different materials that you can observe in the rock. The rock as a whole or the materials that are contained within it can interact with other things at this level to produce various outcome results. With more detailed observation it can be seen that some of the materials in the rock can be broken down chemically into more simple material structures, such as iron rust can be broken down into iron and oxygen, etc., but the iron and oxygen cannot be broken down further chemically. The iron rust is, therefore, composed of two basic materials, which are combined or structured together in such a way as to produce the external interactional results that iron rust generates in interactions with other things. After performing many observational experiments, you can determine all of the basic materials that can't be further broken down chemically into simpler materials and can then make a table of them. At this hierarchical level, you could, if given enough time, determine all of the possible structures that can be made from them and learn all of their possible interactions with each other, etc. You can then call these composite structures (like iron rust) molecules and the smallest part of the most basic materials can be called atoms. Those who were in the science community at that time could easily consider atoms to be small balls of matter. The facts that there were over ninety different atoms and if you then try to break each of these most basic materials down to their smallest part, you find that the mass effect of the smallest part of the material is different for each of them, (they were of more or less of incrementally increasing mass) which implies that they may be made up of some still smaller structure(s) , but that could be easily ignored at that time.

    If you then crash heavy atoms together you find that they can be broken down into two lighter atoms, thus proving that all of the basic atoms are constructed of some more basic substance(s) that are the same in all of them. At this hierarchical level, you can call these more basic materials sub-atomic particles and you can begin to find ways that you can isolate them and see how they interact with each other, etc. As these sub-atomic matter particles were discovered it became apparent that generally all atoms and, thus all matter was basically composed of three sub-atomic particles, the proton, the neutron, and the electron. At this level you can see that these three particles are much fewer than the over ninety atoms at the previous hierarchical level of structure. Scientists still liked to look at these sub-atomic matter particles as very small balls of matter.

    Over time it became apparent that the protons and neutrons were composite particles composed of three more basic particles called quarks while the electron was a basic particle. This meant that all matter is basically composed of four basic particles at this hierarchical structural level. Even though these basic particles exhibit wave behaviors and various outcomes from interactions, etc. that indicate that they have internal structures containing internal motions within them that then affect their external interaction outcomes with each other, these indications have been mostly ignored by the current scientific community, so they can still look at them as little balls of matter.

    If you crash these sub-atomic particles together at very high speeds, you can observe that the interactional outcomes can destroy the particles and, in the process, several new matter particles can be produced that contain more rest mass than the amount contained in the two original sub-atomic particles. Energy photons can also be produced. The greater the linear speed of the particles before the interaction, the greater is the number and total mass of the matter particles and energy photons that are produced by the interaction. Since the only thing that differs is the amount of linear motion of the particles, it becomes apparent that some of the particles that are produced in an interaction are produced by the linear motion of the particles before the interaction. Since energy photons are also produced in these interactions, it is apparent that they are also produced by the linear motions that were contained in the matter particles before the interaction. From this we can observationally determine that at this hierarchical level matter particles and energy photons are composed of the material or substance of basic linear motion. Of course, if they are both composed of the same material or substance, that substance must be put together or structured differently in each of them so as to produce the different interactional output results of both entities. I have gone down one more hierarchical level than man in this world is generally familiar with, but I have done so in order to bring out some points that would not usually be easily understood otherwise.

    First you should see that at each hierarchical level there is a type of structural material that seems to be the acceptable understanding of what a basic structural material is to those who are at that level without any knowledge that material structure can be broken down farther than it is at that level. From this you can see that the concept of the basic structural material of things should include an understanding of what it means at all hierarchical levels. It also becomes apparent that what is considered a basic structural material at one hierarchical structural level can be much different than that of another level. One general pattern that becomes clear is that as you progress down into smaller levels, the total number of basic materials at each level tends to decrease. Notice that at the level of the structural material of matter particles and energy photons there is only one basic structural material, which is linear motion. At this level fields are also composed of simple linear motion field particles. It is, therefore, currently possible from analyzing current observational information to determine the most basic structural substance from which all things are made. The problem is that most people look at things from the current maximum hierarchical level about which information has been currently obtained and understood by them and try to build the next level using the concepts that are currently understood at that level when we live in a world that contains a whole range of levels in which differences exist between the levels. If you can change from just looking at the current level to looking at the whole range of known levels, your mind can be opened to see that the next level may be much different than you would otherwise be able to understand and accept. You can then look at the current experimental observational data in a whole new light, which will allow you to see obvious things that others pass up because they don't know how to fit them into their current theories. As an example, you can see that science is about understanding both the ways that things interact with each other and also understanding the nature of the things that interact with each other. The understanding of the nature of a thing at one hierarchical structural level comes when the next lower level becomes understood. At one hierarchical level atoms are things that can interact with each other, but you don't know the nature of the atom, but at the next lower structural level you know that the nature of the atom is that it contains sub-atomic particles that are located and move around in the atom in certain ways, etc. Things are much more dynamic than we like to think that they are because we like to think of things to be very simple when in reality, they make up a very complicated multilayer structure of motions. Right now, man wants to believe that matter particles are the most basic level of matter structure and don't have any internal working or moving parts, but all of the observational data says otherwise. The good thing is that matter particles, energy photons, and field particles are all explained at the next structural level to be composed of only one basic substance.

    Consciousness is another area where people limit themselves to what they currently understand. The first big assumption is that it is completely contained in the matter structure of the brain. When you understand that our minds are constructed of two parts, which are our spirits and our souls and understand that our spirits generate our intents of what we will do and send those intents to our souls, which translate the intents into the thoughts that our bodies can understand and then our bodies do the work to carry out the intents of our spirits you then have a good basis to build an understanding of what consciousness is and how it works. In the Christian Scriptures it says that "God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." We can easily see that our bodies are composed of the dust of the ground (matter), but the breath of life is mentioned as a separate thing outside of matter. Our spirits are also outside of matter. When our spirits generate intents the part of our souls that are the breath of life can receive and understand those intents and can translate them into the thoughts that our bodies can understand through the part of our souls that are composed of the dust of the ground (our brains) and send them to our body parts through our nervous system. Our bodies then act upon those thoughts to carry out the intents of our spirits. Because of this structure, any attempt to explain all of consciousness as brain functions will ultimately fail.

    The second assumption is that consciousness is limited to what our mind can directly observe and/or control. There are many processes that continually go on in our bodies that require interactions with our spirits and souls. We are aware of some of these things, such as the need to take a breath periodically. Our spirits and souls must be conscious of and work together to control these processes most of which we are not aware of at our higher hierarchical structural level of consciousness. When the spirit leaves the body, the intents needed to continue these processes no longer occur and the body dies. This is why God says "The body without the spirit is dead." At our hierarchical level of consciousness our minds work mainly at the level of our bodys' sense inputs to observe both our internal structure and operation, etc. and also the structure and operation of the world around us. Our minds have the ability to store records of our current sense inputs so that we can later recall them and compare them to the current sense inputs to see what has changed in the world around us since they were recorded. This is what gives us our sense of the past even though the past does not actually exist. After recalling many previous records and comparing them, we can see patterns of change that allow us to predict that some things will continue to change in specific ways. This gives us a sense of the future even though that does not really exist either. We live in a motion continuum. The conditions of all of the motions in the universe that existed, but no longer exist because motions have moved to new locations in space are the past, but the past does not currently exist, because the motions have now moved from those positions into their current positions. The conditions of all motions that will exist, but do not currently exist because the motions have not yet moved to those positions in space are the future, but the future does not currently exist because the motions have not yet moved into those positions. Only the present actually exists, which is the current positions of all of the motions in the universe. The only way that a complete past and future could exist, so that someone could go into any point in the past or future is if a whole complete copy of the universe exists for each movement of any motion in the universe from one point in space to any other point in space. This would mean at least an almost infinite number of complete copies of the universe would have to exist. This would certainly not be according to the Occam's razor principle. There are also a multitude of other problems with the concept of a time dimension, but I will not go into those now because this comment is getting big, so I will end it now.

    Sincerely,

    Paul

      Hi Paul...

      Thank you for another thoughtfully written, and thought provoking essay.

      I agree that a math model as a geometry structure is more precise than any semantics structure, and if the geometry structure verifiably facilitates a process, it can enhance one's understanding of the process, and subsequently application of the process.

      REF: - Topic: "Modeling Universal Intelligence" by Sue Lingo

      or as an .html document "Modeling Universal Intelligence" by Sue Lingo

      Imprecise language embeds dogma in science and religion.

      For linguistic precision, an entity and a process are differentiated herein.

      Many of the weaknesses of man that you elaborate on are a consequence of a lack of a precise definition of "God"... i.e. if one defines "God" as an entity, and "Love" as a process, to say that "God = Love" does not equate.

      In conventional digital programing languages, if a function is called before it is defined (DEF FN), an "UNDEFINED USER FUNCTION" error occurs.

      As a consequence of an undefined function FN"Love", "If you Love me you will do what I want you to do.", has become a standard model of "Love".

      As a consequence of an undefined function FN"God", "We are God's chosen.", became a standard power trip several thousands of years ago.

      One could be more precise in their definition of "God", and say that "God" = "the fundamental process of Energy distribution throughout all Space and Time".

      God defined as a process facilitates "God"= the process of "Love", but requires one to verify the fundamental process of Energy distribution throughout all Space and Time... i.e. the Quantum Theory... in order for one to know "Love" for or from another.

      In a similar manner, many of the holes in the standard model are a consequence of a lack of a precise definition of "Energy", and to say that Energy = accelerated "stuff" equates Energy as an entity, to a phenomena.

      One could be more precise in their definition of Energy and say that E=mc^2, but to defines mass in precise terms requires one to verify the fundamental process of Energy distribution throughout Space and Time... i.e. the Quantum Theory.

      As a consequence of mass as an indeterminate variable, "Multi-verses", "zero point or vacuum energy sources", "quantum foam", are being embedded in media credentialed "standard" interpretations of Space-Time Reality.

      Sue Lingo

      UQS Author/Logician

      www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com

        This is a copy of Cristinel Stoica's comment to me on her paper's page on Apr. 20, 2020

        Dear Paul,

        Thank you very much for providing your interesting views about these important problems. The first 2/3 of your comment, it appears to me, you argue that we can know the nature of things, because things are made of other things. I call this "structure" and I consider it to be relations, not relata. And by nature of things I mean relata, ontology. You seem to mean structure. So you are right, if you mean structure, then maybe we can know it, at least we managed to know a great deal of it so far. But this has nothing to do with what I mean by "nature of things". By the way, when you say "matter particles, energy photons, and field particles are all explained at the next structural level to be composed of only one basic substance", you mean that there is always a next structural level? Then if this never ends, how can we know the nature of things? If it does end, how can the nature of things be known by knowing the next level, when there is no next level?

        Then you talk about "soul" and "spirit", which you don't define, but quote from the Bible. If you'd try to define them rigorously, you would find that you can only talk about their relations and structures, as in what I mean by S. There is a part you can't talk about rigorously, their nature, which is the ontology of S. I tried to be as general as possible, and leave room for various explanations of consciousness, including dualism, which may be what you have in mind. In this case S and P are different. I tried to discuss various possible explanations, dualism included, in my longer essay The negative way to sentience. I tried to leave open all possibilities and see how they can make empirical predictions.

        As for your arguments for presentism, you missed the point again. What I said is that you can't prove it by science, which is only about relations, because there is no relational stuff that highlights the present. This doesn't mean that presentism is wrong. You seem to think though that you can prove by an Occam's razor argument that only present exists. For an Occam's razor argument in the opposite direction, check Theorem 6 in my longer essay The negative way to sentience. You'll see that trying to include it rigorously in a theory to make it presentist complicates it. Also note that people use Occam's razor to "prove" things, when they mean in fact that it would be simpler for their views that things are in a certain way and not another. For example, other people use Occam's razor to deny God, which I think you wouldn't like. Occam's razor is one of the most abused things, since complexity is often relative to one's world view (for example Chaitin-Kolmogorov complexity, but also the lengths of proofs depend on the axiomatic system and there are many other examples). Returning to the problem of time, I see you rely much on Christianity in some aspects, why not when it's about time? You can check the writings of St. Anselm of Canterbury and St. Augustine for this. Also, if you want to know what I mean by negative way, I borrowed this from theology, it's an idea that appears including in Christian writings. I didn't mean my essay to have theological implications, but I think that the method of science itself is a via negativa in a sense similar to that used in these writings. I think this is a nice idea which has implications that we know much little than we think, whether we're talking about God (which is the original place where the idea appeared), but also when we talk about the nature of things, when we judge other people, or in the scientific method.

        Cheers,

        Cristi

        This is a copy of my comment to Cristinel Stoica on her paper's page on Apr. 24, 2020

        Dear Cristinel,

        After I sent my previous comment to you, I noticed that I didn't get the second letter i entered in your name. Sorry about that.

        It appears that we are using different definitions or different parts of the definition for the word nature. When I talk about the nature of something in the immediate primary sense, I am talking about what it is. If it is a thing like a matter particle, for example, I mean what substance(s) it is made of and how is that substance(s) organized, structured, or built up in it to make it to be the way that it is. If it is not static, but contains one or more active functional internal processes going on within it, what are they and how do they work. If it interacts internally with other thing(s) in such a way that it and the other thing(s) act as a unit together in some way, what is that and how does it work. Also, how and in what way(s) does it interact with other external things. There are other parts to the meaning of the word nature that can apply under certain circumstances like the thing's origin or source of its existence, but I don't usually go into that unless I think that the person that I am talking to will likely have the ability to understand and also the desire to understand because it took me over twenty two years of scientific study to come to the conclusion that the creation could not have come about naturally by itself, but had to have been created by a being that exists outside of it, existed before it, and is extremely intelligent to have allowed him to have been able to create it. He would also need to be powerful enough to create it, of course, and possess the resources needed to make it, etc. I came to this conclusion after analyzing such concepts as evolution, the various creation from nothing arguments, the arguments for how the first living creature came into existence, and the possibility that evolution could have created all of the various living creatures that exist now and those that have existed in the past, but have gone extinct, in fourteen billion years, etc. I found that the math just does not add up to allow for natural random creation to occur. Once I came to the conclusion that God had to exist, I looked at various religious documents and found that only the Jewish Old Testament and the Christian New Testament contained the information about the creation that I had found during all of those years of research. I had searched through man's scientific works and did not find that anyone else had found and come to understand such things. For the most part, man still has not understood these things although I have freely given out some of them over the last ten years. Of course, it may be that there are those who work in the secret (black) scientific community who have received the things that I have given out and understood them, because man in that community has come to understand how to make plasma field engines and cloaking devices for high speed air and space vehicles, etc. that indicate that such concepts may be at least somewhat understood by them. Of course, it is possible to make structured field engines without the plasma effect, but as far as I know they have not yet gotten that far. My point is that I did not find this information in any of man's works, or in any of the other religious texts, but it is clearly in the sources mentioned above which were written more than two thousand years ago. As I have continued to search these scriptures, I have found that they also contain much information about many other things. I mentioned a few of them in my previous comment. One of the problems of current science structure is that the concept that the creation was made by a being rather than by some natural cause is automatically considered to be unscientific. This is usually based on the lack of our ability to directly observe God. At the same time man has had no problem believing in the existence of molecules, atoms, and matter particles, etc. long before they became even indirectly observable from the way that things interacted with each other. If we look at the creation from the standpoint of the ways things are made and how they interact with each other it becomes apparent that what we call intelligence had to have been involved in its creation. First it is constructed in a multilevel hierarchical form starting with simple structures and combining them together into sub-assemblies, which are then combined into still more complex assemblies, etc. until the total device performs all of the desired functions. This is exactly the way that man who is considered to be intelligent builds complex structures. Secondly, the design is such that each hierarchical level creates a complete environment of actions and capabilities to operate at that level internally within each object and externally in interactions with other entities. As an example, at the top large scale object level of structure even if you don't know anything about the smaller hierarchical levels of its molecules, atoms, and sub-atomic matter particles, you can use stone to build buildings and other large scale structures because of its compression strength and other properties that it has at the large scale. This was designed to allow man to use large scale objects before he was able to understand anything about the smaller hierarchical levels of structure. This has allowed man to develop at a controlled rate of progress by providing the keys to the next level at the desired time. The discovery of the next level gives man new abilities of use of the materials to allow for controlled advancement. Man uses similar hierarchical structuring in the complex things that he makes. As an example, a computer programmer who understands the C programming language can write useful programs without any understanding that when a C language instruction is executed it likely causes the execution of a large number of machine language instructions in the next lower hierarchical level of structure or that the machine language instructions execute hexadecimal coded words at the next level and those words actually are executed in the binary form by the computer circuitry in the next level or that the binary likely takes the form of an electronic or magnetic circuit that can be in one of two states at the hardware level, etc. The higher C language level will likely produce a larger program than would be necessary and do things less efficiently than if it was written in machine language, so there is an advantage of also knowing how to program at that lower hierarchical level, but it is not necessary to produce a program that will accomplish the task. It is the same with the creation's hierarchical levels. New doors of knowledge of the next lower levels can be given out at the desired time for man to understand them, thus opening up more new abilities for man when appropriate, but from the beginning man was able to live and function adequately just using information provided at the top level of structure. To get the complete understanding of the nature of something you have to understand its complete structure at all hierarchical levels, but when you are operating within only one or a portion of those levels, it is adequate to define the objects being to be the substance(s) and structure(s) and the structure's internal operations, and external interactions included within the level(s) being used at the time. From this and other things it should be apparent that creation was designed to start man out with a very limited understanding of the world around him, but to increase his understanding over time as necessary or as desired by the creator.

        If all things are made of just one thing and that thing is simple linear motion, then you have reached the end of that chain of structure because all you have in existence is simple linear motions and the dimensional system that they move in. From there the only other thing to understand is the structure of the dimensional system that allows the linear motions to move in it in such a way as to construct field particles, energy photons, and matter particles. Once that is accomplished a complete understanding of what we call the universe can be understood. The only thing lacking is that you still could not indirectly observe matter particles, energy photons and field particles. There is a next level of structure, however. Once it is understood that a matter particle is formed by transferring some of an energy photon's motion into its fifth dimensional motion and that this motion then returns down into the lower three dimensions in a sequential manner, such that it causes the photon to take a curved path that encloses back upon itself to form a repetitive cyclical three dimensional enclosed path and that path and the photon traveling in it is what we call a matter particle and that If you then add linear motion to it to accelerate that matter particle toward the speed of light, some of the added motion is transferred into its fourth and fifth dimensional motions, you can then see that the motion added to its fifth dimensional motion causes an increase in the curvature of the matter particle's enclosed path. This causes it to become smaller. The closer you get to the speed of light the larger is the portion of the added motion that is transferred into the particle's fifth dimensional motion and the rate of reduction in its size greatly increases. The next step is to understand how interactions between matter particles work. There is what is called an interaction cross-section. Interactions generally do not occur between field particles because their structural points of their motions are very small making it very unlikely that they will intersect each other and come together to interact. Energy photons on the other hand not only possess a field particle in each of them that travels at the speed of light, they each also possess a fourth dimensional motion that travels at ninety degrees from its direction of travel. This gives a much larger cross-sectional area in which an interaction can occur and thus increases the likelihood that two photons can interact with each other. If one photon possesses a very high fourth dimensional motion amplitude (it generates a very high frequency) and another one has a very low motion amplitude in its fourth dimensional motion (it generates a very low frequency) and they move toward each other, the likelihood that the low frequency photon will be in a place in its cross-section where it will interact with the other photon is greatly reduced. Matter particles work in a similar way except instead of a cross-sectional area there is more of a cross-sectional volume. You can look at a matter particle's path as a small three-dimensional sphere. When the paths of two matter particles begin to intersect an interaction can take place, but the photons within them must be located on their paths, such that they will intersect at a time that their fourth dimensional motions are also in the proper positions within each of them to allow the interaction to take place during the time that their paths still intersect each other. Again, if one particle is very small because it possesses a large fifth dimensional motion amplitude because it is traveling close to the speed of light and the other particle is much slower in that respect, which means that it is much larger, the likelihood of an interaction is greatly reduced. If you visualize the small particle intersecting with the motion path of the much larger particle you will see that the small particle will pass completely through the motion path on one side and then travel through most of the larger particle in the internal volume of the larger particle where it can't interact with the larger particle's photon because it is located on the enclosed path of the larger particle and not internally within it. It will then travel through the other side of the larger particle's enclosed path. This greatly decreases the chance of an interaction between the two particles. The net effect is that our energy photons and matter particles can only interact with each other when they are both within a specific frequency range with respect to each other. This means that we live in a universe that only includes energy photons and matter particles that possess frequencies within this range. There are other universes that exist in lower and higher frequency ranges and it is possible to travel to that nice little world in a very small galaxy near, near away in your desk drawer. Of course, if you accelerate close to the speed of light, you can observe the matter particles of our frequency range to understand their composition and operation, etc. If you learn how to slow down your fifth dimensional motion, you could also be as large as one of our galaxies or travel to a very large world in an extremely large galaxy where our galaxy might be in someone else's desk drawer. As to whether there is a bottomless pit of frequency ranges or just a few, etc. is another story. At that point you could completely understand how our frequency range functions and its internal substances and structuring at all hierarchical levels. If all of the other frequency ranges are constructed the same way you could extrapolate that knowledge to all of them and completely understand them all. There is more to the story, of course, but that is enough of that for now.

        My point is that all observational evidence supports the concept that we are continually living in the present. We don't jump back into the past and become a child again once we are grown up. Neither do we go into the future and observe things from that perspective and then jump back to the current present. We can experience the past only in the form of recordings that were made either in our minds or by other devices when that past was the current present. We can only experience a possible future in the form of extrapolations from observed patterns that we observed from past records and from present observations. We cannot actually observe the real future because it has not yet occurred. There is no observable evidence for a continual existence of the past or the future. The relational stuff that highlights the present is the observations of normal continuations of motions in their paths and the expected results from interactions that show a continuation of motion transfers in the normal expected patterns as have been observed to happen over and over in their linear motion flow patterns, etc. Clocks are only useful to us because of this continual orderly motion flow. If the clock were to suddenly start to run backwards because we started to go backward in time to the past or if it suddenly jumped forward 6 hours because we moved into the future, the clock would be useless to us to help us record the continual passage of time. They don't do that, but just continue to move forward at the rate that the motions contained in them provides. I have found that the scriptures themselves, at least in the King James version that is not copyrighted, are very consistent and accurate. The works of men, however, are not. Even those who are said to be followers of Christ, often mix men's science or other works into their works and since man's works are usually at least partially in error they can't be counted on to be completely valid. An example would be when leaders of the Roman church adopted the then current scientific concepts that considered the earth to be the center of the universe and that the sun and planets, etc., went around the earth. When it was later noticed that the planets sometimes went back and forth they just added the concept of epicycles to try to explain them away, so that they would not be seen to have made an error. Ironically, today I see just the opposite in that atheists now in the same way often make up many obviously false theories to try to continue to support concepts like natural creation of the universe or of living creatures, etc. even though current scientific observational evidence no longer supports such concepts as practical. To get a complete understanding of anything it is necessary to both understand what is in that thing (the positive way) as well as what is not in it (the negative way). Both approaches used simultaneously work best. Yes it is not just limited to science.

        I am not sure what you mean about the relata and ontology that is not about the structure or relations of things. Please give me what you would consider to be the relata and ontology of matter particles that does not include the structure or relations of them. If you can, give it to me in non-mathematical terms.

        Sincerely,

        Paul

        Dear Sue,

        You are welcome. I started to read your paper, but I have limited ability to do so at this point in the motion continuum to finish it due to the intrusion of other motion structures in interaction with me. Just trying to be somewhat precise in semantic structure.

        Even though math in all of its forms is just another part of man's mostly abstract language structure, there was a time when I would have agreed with you that math structure is more precise than other language structures, but I have found that it also has its limitations.

        1. It is still limited to the user's understanding of structure. If there is a lack of understanding of the full depth of a structure in all of its substance(s) the structuring of its substance(s), and all of its processes, etc. the results of a math model of the structure will either be incomplete or at least partially false. As an example, defining God to be an entity and love to be a process is an incomplete understanding of both. Anything that exists is an entity of one form or another, so it is true that God is an entity, but the structure of an entity can include many processes that operate within and are parts of its structure. Thus if God contains the process of love as part of his structure and his structure is the source of that process, then it is proper to say that God is love because all other entities that possess love received it from him as the only initial source of it and thus become subsets of the master set of all things made by God. The word (is) is not limited to the concept of equal to. It can apply to just one or a subset of the sum total of the parts or processes contained in the master set that is represented by the name of the entity. In that sense you can say that the word (is) is less precise than =, but if you mean =, you can just use the word equal which is a semantic form that has the same meaning. The word love represents a process, but it is a process that cannot exist outside of an entity to produce it and it, therefore, requires an entity as a source of the process to bring it into existence, support its operation, and to make it meaningful in the specific intent of accomplishment of its intended use in the specific case to be represented. Moreover, an entity can also be a process. A simple linear motion is an entity and all fields, energy photons, and matter particles in the universe are composed of them, but they are also processes in that they continually change position in space from one position to the next one in some specific composite three-dimensional direction at a specific motion amplitude (speed). This process continues without end. Motions are the only things in the universe that are completely conserved. The things that are composed of those motions such as energy photons and matter particles are not conserved because they can be changed into each other or separated into individual linear motions.

        2. Math expressions are usually more concise in that it is much easier to write E=MC^2 than to write Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared. Both statements are equivalent, however. It is possible to express any mathematical expression in either form and convey the same meaning in both forms. Although the more condensed form of the math expression is an advantage when working with others who are familiar with their intended use in a particular situation, they can be a source of confusion to those who are not initiated into the group who are using them. This is because the letters, other characters, and symbols used in a math expression have different meanings applied to them in other math expressions. (E) could represent energy or Euler's number, etc. In addition a letter in an expression could represent one or a whole series of other expressions, so it is easy to forget to check that a new intended use of an expression fits not only into the meaning of the surface expression that is used, but also is in accordance with all of the other expressions that are a part of the expression, but are hidden in the background behind the letter(s) used to join them into a single expression.

        3. It is possible to express or model anything that can be expressed or modeled in normal word structures in mathematical forms and vice versa because both forms are parts of man's abstract language form. As models of more complex structures are constructed, new math structures such as set theories have been developed to express them. Each of these new math structures comes with a new set of rules or laws of form and use, which further complicates the attainment of the ability to properly understand and use all of them.

        It is true that imprecise language can result in errors in understanding in both religion and science, but errors in math structure or the understanding of variables, etc. can also cause errors. The greatest source of errors, however, comes in the underlying conceptualizations upon which the words or math models are based. As an example, to form a math model around the assumption that God is "the fundamental process of energy distribution throughout all space and time" will only be valid if that assumption is true. Since space and time are parts of this creation and God would have to exist before this creation in order for him to be there to create it, space and time are not him, but are just parts of his creation. It is true that he entered and distributed all of the motions that make up field particles, energy photons, and matter particles into the spatial system of the earth that he had created in the way that he desired them to be, but he is separate from the creation. He did promise to make images of himself in the creation and I have seen that they do exist throughout the various hierarchical levels of the creation. It is interesting that in the scriptures God says that when people begin to leave him, they get to where they worship the creation rather than the creator.

        You are right that using words or concepts that are not properly defined can lead to errors in understanding. As an example, The phrase "If you love me you will do what I want you to do" probably has its basis in the scriptures where Jesus when talking to a disciple said "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:", and "If a man love me, he will keep my words:" In the first statement above someone might believe that loving someone would be to do whatever he asks you to do, but if you refer back to the scriptural source, you find that it is limited to loving Jesus and by keeping his commandments. When looked at from that perspective, one man loving another is accomplished by keeping God's commandments concerning man. This means that you love someone when you don't kill him because God commanded you not to kill or when he has a need and you give him according to his need as God commanded you to do, etc.

        I have found that man's current understanding of what causes mass effects is still very limited and although the expression E=MC^2 shows that mass and energy are the same thing just in different forms, the understanding of what energy is, also is lacking. When it is all said and done, everything in the universe is composed of linear motions. Angular motions generate mass effects. An energy photon contains a motion that operates at ninety degrees to its direction of motion at the speed of light. During an interaction with an electron in an atom, a visible light photon can exhibit a mass effect that knocks the electron out of the atom in the photoelectric effect. It does this by transferring its fourth dimensional motion to the electron, which is received by the electron as linear kinetic motion. In the process the energy photon is converted into a field particle. In a matter particle, its fifth dimensional motion causes the photon in it to take a curved path that encloses back upon itself to create a three-dimensional cyclical enclosed path. This curved path motion operates at a ninety-degree angle to anything that heads toward the center of the matter particle's path. This angular motion is what gives the matter particle its three-dimensionally stable static mass effect or its ability to resist motion that is applied to it from any direction. In the same way that an energy photon does not need to have an external medium to carry its wave effect because it contains within it a motion that generates it locally, a matter particle also contains a motion within it that generates its static mass effect. No external entities are needed to generate it. Time as a dimension, multiverses, zero point or vacuum energy, and quantum foam do not exist.

        Concerning the chosen of God, none of us can make ourselves chosen of God. God made us such that we have laws written in our flesh that are contrary to God's laws, so that without him we will go against his commandments, which is called sin. In that condition we are worthy of death and cannot save ourselves from that penalty. He made a way for us to have our sins forgiven to avoid that penalty and become God's chosen. He sent his Word into the earth in the form of a man to live a life without sin and then die on the cross as a sacrifice to God for us, so that our sins can be forgiven and we can then become God's chosen. Our part in this is that we must receive him and believe what he says, repent or turn away from sinning and turn to God and ask him to forgive our sins. We must then accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and follow him as our Lord. We then become God's chosen and God comes into us and lives in us and through us out into the world. We become members of his body, which is the purpose for which he made this creation, which is to use it to make a body for himself. Another way to put it is that this creation is God's body manufacturing plant. Once he has made all of his body members or parts, he will no longer need it and will come and reclaim all of the motions that he took from himself to originally build it back into himself, which will essentially burn up this creation. His motions are so much greater than any of those in this world that even the stars will be burned up by his presence. Only his body members will survive. A new heaven and earth will then be made and his body members will live in his body on the new earth without end. As you can see, God has made all of us, such that we need him to save us, so even his chosen have no reason to boast or think of ourselves as any thing better than anyone else. Anyone can make the choices that allows him to become one of God's chosen.

        Sincerely,

        Paul

        10 days later

        Hi Paul...

        As is being conveniently encouraged by FQXi essay comment threads, conceptual convergence of diverse disciplines, is crucial to successful open forum discussions, and I thank you for your thoughtful "add to thread" comments of my review of your essay.

        Many FQXi essay participants are multi-discipline and are thus able to resolve conceptual conflicts resulting from discipline specific language ... e.g. Peter Jackson's architectural orientation allowed him to equate his definition of PHYSICAL as "a 'rotation' big enough to 'couple with' EM fluctuations", to my structural geometry definition of PHYSICAL as "spatial occupancy", thus providing us with a common term to concisely differentiate PHYSICAL from META-PHYSICAL.

        We can now discuss the necessity for both a Quantum Model as associated with the PHYSICAL realm... i.e. Space-Time concepts... and an Ontology Model as associated with the META-PHYSICAL realm... i.e. Spaceless-Timeless concepts... both of which must be consistent with each other, and be defined in terms that facilitate experimental verification of one's observations of one's PHYSICAL and META-PHYSICAL Reality.

        A distinction between a Space-Time Logic structure and a Spaceless-Timeless Logic structure does imply an intelligence/logic framework singularity, and the expression "Space-Time Energy as Cause Energy's Spaceless feeling of Timeless now", does NOT reduce to a mathematical equation unless one resolves a unified unit geometry structure encapsulating a point source directionally unbiased emission of minimum units of spatially defined Time-Space Energy (QE) from a Spaceless-Timeless Cause.

        That being the case, Physicist and Mathematicians tend to dismiss Logicians as "poets", but Physicist Edwin Eugene Klingman, in his capacity as Microprocessor Designer, has come to terms with "One must make metaphysical choice commitments to ontology".

        I agree with him, and as a Logician my internal "self awareness" is committed to a META-PHYSICAL Ontology Logic realm that is clearly differentiated from my PHYSICAL Quantum Model Logic realm, and as a geometrist, observations of Space-Time Energy Reality, mandate a logic singularity structure that facilitates single point source conversion of Timeless-Spaceless Cause Energy into Time-Space Reality Energy, as the basis for my PHYSICAL Quantum Model Logic realm.

        REF Graphic Illustration: Cause Energy Pulsed Emergence as Space-Time Energy http://www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com/UQSMarcelMLTD.jpg

        Beliefs as software circuits... i.e. apps... install potential and/or limitation on one's mental processor, and establishment and commitment to a mental model that facilitates both a PHSICAL and META-PHYSICAL, experimentally verifiable logic basis for one's beliefs, eliminates "UNDEFINED FUNCTION" error messages.

        The more precise the model, the greater one's ability to apply its fundamental processes, and although the model may not survive... e.g. "All are of christ" as attributed to Jesus as a statement of his Q-model, has been media morphed as "Jesus the Christ"... it is one's demonstration of successful application of a model, that survives the test of time.

        External media sources always have, and still do, skillfully distort imprecise semantics, amazingly fast... e.g. one can still find 1945-50ish black and white news reels in which Einstein publically commits to a belief in the "existence of an aether", but polarization of Einstein as an "Atomist" and Tesala as an advocate of aether, is currently profitable media.

        REF: Theoria Apophasis... "Tesala on Ether" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FrjKhmlXek

        It is not my intent to polarize my beliefs and another individual's internally formulated beliefs, and I see no contradiction in christ = minimum/indivisible quanta of Energy (QE)... i.e. QE as graphic elements in a CAD geometry environment facilitate a more precise entity definition to convey prior semantic attempts to conceptualize a unified indivisible substance... e.g.. christ, prana, spirit, rigpa, etc.

        A more precise model can also eliminate semantic language translation preferences... e.g. "Believe me." and "Believe in me" are not equivalent statements.

        If one believes what Jesus said ~"These things and greater shall ye do.", one is not limited, nor does one limit others, in their ability to make application of Jesus's Q-model... i.e. if one can install and make application of a belief that allows one to accept responsibility for "Heal thy self."... physically, mentally, and spiritually... one can be "saved" the consequences of physical, mental, and/or spiritual limitations.

        A more precise model may expose one's commitment to externally administered interpretations... e.g. as a statement of his Ontological Model, Jesus is quoted as saying ~"All is the only son of God.", but "Jesus is the only son of God." is the dominate western cultural media interpretation... and one's mental software may need to take a critical update.

        If a person can successfully demonstrate communication with Absolute Intelligence, it would seemingly be better to investigate their model, than to deify their persona and assign responsibility to that persona for "salvation" from undecideability... i.e. by application of the model one may discover the ability to accept responsibility for their personal communication with Absolute Intelligence.

        Paul, I am looking forward to your review of my essay, and if you should choose to multitask your comments as a test of communication with an Absolute Intelligence, as modeled in my essay... i.e. apply the same logic evaluation criteria to your review comments as I demonstrate in my essay... it will facilitate experimental evidence to evaluate functionality of the UQS integrated PHSICAL/META-PHYSICAL belief suite's Cosmic Consciousness Connection, prior to installing the UQS Model on the mental desktop, as a geometry basis for a structural change in consciousness.

        Sue Lingo

        UQS Author/Logician

        www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com

        8 days later

        Dear Sue,

        I work in what was in the past considered to be the accepted way to gain new information, which is to start with what can be currently observed in the world that we live in starting first with what can be directly observed and then using the understanding gained at that level to aid in understanding that which can only be indirectly observed. This works well to understand all of the hierarchical structural levels that man can currently at least indirectly observe. When it comes to the next hierarchical level that cannot yet be observed even indirectly, I look for clues to understanding that level from observations of how that level interacts with the currently lowest level that can be observed. This is the way that scientific understanding has progressed from the beginning of the development of science. Currently the next structural level that cannot be indirectly observed is the level concerning the structural substance that fields, energy photons, and matter particles are composed of and how that substance is structured within each of them to give the specific interaction properties that can be observed in interactions between them. From analysis of this observed interactional information I have determined that they are all composed of simple linear motions, which are structured (built up) differently in each of them so that they each exhibit the specific interactional behavior that is observed during interactions between them. This leaves only the structure of simple linear motions, which is very simple and the structure of the dimensional system that they move in, to be understood within our hierarchical structural level. The current remaining question then is how was the dimensional system created and how were all of the motions that currently exist within it introduced into it.

        Most of the public scientific community has not yet come to understand the structure of fields, energy photons, and matter particles because about fifty to one hundred years ago a different method of attempting to understand the structures of the world came into use. It began from an attempt to understand the interactions between matter particles, between energy photons, and between matter particles and energy photons. It was noticed that two particles could produce several different outcome results and that each result had a certain probability of occurrence compared to the other outcomes. This was good science, but then since no one could at that time see any possibility of observing matter particles and energy photons, such that it could be determined what was causing all the different outcomes and their probabilities, science took a fatalistic outlook that it was impossible to ever understand what was going on in the particles to generate all those different interactional outcomes. Man also went away from the understanding that fields were composed of some existent substance (ether), which left a large empty hole in understanding how an energy photon is produced when an electron in an atom drops down from a higher level to a lower level in the atom, etc. From this point various hypotheses were developed that kept the good science of the interactional outcomes and their probabilities, but imbedded within the hypotheses the concept that it was impossible to ever understand what caused the various different outcome and their probabilities, etc., such as quantum theory, etc. From this, new hypotheses have been developed from those previous hypotheses, etc., with each new layer of such conjectures getting farther and farther from observational reality. At this point, math models are made just on the basis of what the author desires the world to be, with very little concern about actual observed reality.

        When it comes to the initial production of the dimensional system and the motions that exist within it, most people look for some natural production of them. The problem with this approach is that it always comes down to something coming from nothing in one way or another and this is contrary to all of observed reality in which all things come from other things. As an example, if you start with a single dimensional point or singularity, the first question is where did the singularity come from. A singularity is a zero-dimensional point which has a dimensional size of zero. How then can something that contains some dimensional size that is to be used to build the dimensional system, which contains sizes other than zero come through a dimensional point that cannot accommodate anything that has a size other than zero? How could it move into the world through that single zero size dimensional point when motion requires travel from one point to another and only one point is available, so no motion could exist to bring it into the world. Since all energy is really just motion, it could not come in through the singularity because there would be no place for it to move with only one position in the universe. If you consider that the energy motion creates new spatial points to move into and that those points then stay in existence because they continue to contain that motion, the motion would have to travel to other points also to continue to be a motion or energy, but if the motion energy continued to create new points to move into and then move into them, the previous points that it had created would collapse and cease to exist because they would no longer contain the motion that would support their existence. The concept of a static non moving energy is not a reasonable possibility. Sometimes people think it is possible because of the concept of potential energy, like an object sitting on top of a tall building having a large potential energy that would turn into kinetic energy if the object is dropped off of the building, but it is actually just the result of interactions of motions. One motion is the downward flow of the gravity field particles that acts to push the object down toward the center of the earth and the other motion is the field particle flow from the molecules, atoms and matter particles in the building, which is much stronger and, therefore, holds the object up from falling to the center of the earth. If you push the object off the building, you remove the upward support motion and the downward gravity field flow pushes the object downward. Everything is composed of motions and the one thing that all motions do is to continue to change their position in space without end. This is why the concepts of zero point and vacuum energy, etc. are not practical and when you really understand field particles and the structure of fields composed of them, you can see that such things are not needed to explain the things that they were invented to explain. It is all just motion transfers between field particles, energy photons, and matter particles. That is all that is needed to explain everything. Peter Jackson's rotating motion occupying a spatial position to keep it active seems to be more possible, but rotation is a composite motion structure that is basically two dimensional, so it would not maintain a three dimensional spatial position and would also need to define the source of the two continually interacting motions that are required to maintain a rotation. As an example, the earth's rotation around the sun is caused by a linear motion of the earth interacting with the gravity particle field flows of the sun and the earth. If the sun were to suddenly cease to exist, the earth would go off in a straight line in the direction that it was going in at the time that the sun ceased to exist. On the other hand, if the earth's linear motion was suddenly removed it would fall directly down into the sun. The rotation is due to the balance between the two motions. For a rotation to exist and continue around its central point two variable amplitude back and forth motions at ninety degrees to each other that are offset from each other by ninety degrees would be required and would need to be explained.

        There is no space-time dimension as many believe. We live in a motion continuum. The present is the current motion conditions of all motions in the universe. The motion conditions that existed, but no longer exist because motions have moved from those positions to their current positions are the past, but the past does not exist because the motions have moved from those positions to their current positions, therefore, you cannot go back into the past. The conditions that motions will be in, but they have not yet moved into those positions are the future, but you can't go there either since the motions are still in their current positions and have not yet moved into those future positions. Time is just a relationship between motions that is mainly needed because all motions do not contain the same amount of motion (speed). Man has merely chosen a specific cyclical motion like the earth's rotation on its axis to compare other motions to. If all motions contained the same motion amplitude (speed) there would be no need to have separate time measurements. If someone asked you how long it took you to get to your meeting with them, you could just say 5 miles because all trips of five miles distance would be equal to each other. There is no observable evidence for travel backward or forward in time. So, time exists, but only as a way to measure the comparative flow(s) of motions in the motion continuum.

        You are right that if you only consider a natural origin of the universe, you somehow have to explain how the spatial system and all the motions that exist in it basically come from nowhere. You start with the existence of a singularity, but you would need to explain where it came from. Remember, that there could be no fluctuations of zero-point energy or vacuum energy because there would be no vacuum before the existence of spatial positions for the vacuum to exist in and there would not even be a zero point to contain any energy before the zero-point singularity was in existence. To me it looks like the something from nothing problem. If such a singularity did exist and somehow emitted the minimum units of spatially defined time-space energy (QE) from the spaceless timeless cause (the singularity), how could it be directionally unbiased, since a singularity would not possess the property of directions because you would need to have at least one bidirectional dimension in order for the concept of direction to exist and a singularity is a dimensionless structure. It, therefore, could not affect the directions that the QE would travel in when they somehow came through the singularity. This means that the QE units would somehow have to determine how to move out and create a three-dimensional spatial system. Why would they not just create a one-dimensional system, since that would be much simpler? Why create a bidirectional dimensional system instead of a unidimensional system, since that would also be simpler, especially since the unit production would travel out in all directions from the singularity, so there would be no need to provide a way to travel back in the opposite direction in each dimension to propagate the QE dimensional structure? Moreover, the source of the QE units that were coming in through the singularity would also need to be explained. It looks like another something from nothing concept. What observations of Space-Time Energy Reality have you made? I would like to have you give me some examples of them.

        The only place in the Christian Scriptures that contains the phrase, "Jesus the Christ", is at Mathew, 16, 20, where it says, "Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ." To replace (Jesus the Christ) with (All are of christ) in that place would not make sense because (Jesus the Christ) refers to his identity of who he is, while (All are of christ) refers to a relationship with christ, which since christ is not capitalized implies that it is not the true Christ. The phrase "All are of Christ" is not in the scriptures. Where do you find that the two phrases are considered equal to each other?

        The (phrase All are of Christ) with a capital C, could be considered true in a limited way, but would be false in the most important way. To explain this requires an understanding of who Christ is and his part in the creation. God tells us much about himself and the creation that he made and its purpose in the scriptures. In 1 John, 5, 7, God tells us "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." This tells us that God is composed of three parts that all work together to make him as he is. In John, 4, 23 and 24 God says, "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." So, God the Father is his Spirit. God's Word is the part of him that he prepared (the only begotten Son of God) and used to create the creation and uses to communicate to and from the creation. In Ephesians, 3, 9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ." It is evident that God the Father created all things through his Son, the Word. To understand that better it is important to understand things about names. Your first name identifies you to others and your last name tells others where you came from or through, or your source. To understand the meaning of the word Jesus, we can go to Mathew, 1, 21 through 23, "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." So you can see that Jesus is equated with Emanuel, which in turn equals, God (the Father) with us. Concerning who Christ is, Mathew, 16, 15 and 16 says "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God". So Christ equals the Son of the living God (God the Father), which is God's Word as confirmed in John, 1, 14, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." When you see Jesus Christ, you can then understand that God the Father is being presented to you through or by his Word. When you see Christ Jesus, the Word is being presented to you by God the Father.

        To get a better understanding about the relationship between God the Father and the Word it is good to look at an image of God that he made in the creation. God tells us that he has made several images of him in the things that he made. In Romans, 1, 18 through 20 it says, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:". First God says that the things that can be known about him are manifest or clearly seen in many ways in us because we are one of the images of God that he made in the creation. In Genesis, 1, 26 and 27, God tells us, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." So, man is also made of three parts, which are the spirit, the soul, and the body. We are generally familiar with our bodies because we can easily observe them directly. Our soul and spirit are harder to separate from each other to understand what each does. God's word helps us again there because in Hebrews, 4, 12 it says, "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." In this, soul is presented first and thus connected to joints and thoughts. The spirit is connected to the marrow and intents. Both are joined together in the heart or mind. The marrow is the center of the bone that produces and maintains the bone. The joints connect the bone to other parts of the body. In a similar way the intents are the center initiators of all of our actions and the thoughts are the connectors of the intents to our bodies. Our bodies cannot understand the intents of our spirit and our spirit will not directly receive information from our bodies. This is because our bodies work on a lower level language of thoughts. Our souls are part spirit and part flesh of our bodies, so they can receive and understand the intents of our spirit and translate the intents into thoughts that our bodies can understand. Our bodies then act in accordance with the thoughts from our souls to carry out the intents of our spirits in the flesh. Of course, when our bodies have needs, such as a need for food, they can generate thoughts that are sent to our souls and our souls, then translate the thoughts into intents that our spirits understand. Our spirits then generate intents that are sent to our bodies through the translation in our souls that changes them into thoughts that our bodies can understand that causes the bodies to go and get food and eat it, etc. God describes the construction of our souls in Genesis, 2, 7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." So, the soul is composed of two parts, which are the dust of the ground or matter (our brain, etc.) and the breath of life that is a spirit part that connects to our spirit and like our spirit is not composed of matter. Together they work as a communication mediator between the spirit and the body.

        The third part of God, the Holy Ghost is God's body. The reason that God created this creation was to make a body for himself to dwell or live in and to work through to do his will in the world. This creation is a temporary structure and can be looked at as God's body manufacturing plant. God made man to become the members or parts of his body. Jesus tells us the relationship that God has with him and desires to have with us though him as the mediator between God the Father and us in John, 5, 19 and 20 and 30, "Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." This is the same kind of relationship that is between our spirits and our bodies through our souls. This is why in John, 14, 6, Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh to the Father, but by me." Because he is the only one that God has given to be able to be the mediator between God and man as is written in 1 Timothy, 2, 5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus;". Remember the source is Jesus, God with us, God the Father, who is coming to us through Christ, God's only begotten Son, the Word of God. God the Father is the one who decides which ones will come to him through his Son, the Word. In John 6, 44 through 47, and 65 Jesus said, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." From this you can see that the phrase, "All are of Christ" is true in the sense that All were made by him and therefore are his because he created them, but it is not true in the sense of those who become God's body members because only a small number will be drawn to him by God the Father to become God's body members or parts through him. In the same way it would not be wrong to give the name christ (with a small c) to the minimum/indivisible quanta of energy as graphic elements in a CAD geometry environment if you only mean it to be just a generic name like george, etc., but it would be wrong if you were implying that the minimum/indivisible quanta of energy is actually God's Word because it would actually only be a small part of the creation and not part of the creator. I don't think that it could be said that Christ is a unified indivisible substance because by all indications that I have seen so far, it looks like God is composed of a very great number of very fast motions. Each of those motions may be indivisible, but I am not sure about that. Since God made man in his image and he took a rib out of Adam to make the woman, Eve, that could be an image that he took a part of his motions that he is made of that was about an equivalent part of his total motions to what a rib in a man would be of the total man and used those motions to make the creation. What we consider to be the universe is only part of the earth structure. The creation also includes the three heavens controlled by the powers, principalities, and angels and the place high above the highest heaven that is reserved only for God, etc. Since God is eternal, the motions of which he is made would also be eternal, which may be why motions are the only things that are always conserved in all interactions. Of course, God would need to have been in existence before the beginning of the creation in order for him to be there to create it. This means that he exists outside of the creation and would not be a part of the creation, so we would not be able to see or observe him in any way unless he provided a way for us to do so. This is where many are greatly in error because they look at some part of the creation, such as fields, etc. as the creator when they are just a part of the creation.

        You are right that Believe me is not equivalent to Believe in me.

        What Jesus said was, John, 14, 12 through 20, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son." Notice that this does not apply to everyone, but only one who believes on Jesus. The implication is that the person is positioned on Jesus or otherwise has Jesus in him and believes Jesus. Such a person does not actually do the works himself, but asks in Jesus's name and Jesus does the works, so that the Father may be glorified in Jesus, the Son. The reason that the works are greater is because Jesus goes to the Father. Jesus goes on, "If ye ask anything in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you , and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." The implication here is that such a person will love Jesus and keep his commandments and that this is a prerequisite to getting Jesus to pray to the Father to give that person the Spirit of truth to be his comforter and that the Spirit of truth will be in him. Jesus then makes it clear that he (Jesus) is the Spirit of truth who will come into him. Jesus then says, "Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." At this point it is clear that the Father is in Jesus and works through him and Jesus is in the person and communicates both ways with him. When a man reaches this point, God says in Romans, 8, 10, "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness." In this condition the man's spirit is made right by Christ in him, but there is another law written in his flesh that is stronger in the flesh than God's law which is spiritual. This means that he knows and desires to do that which is good and to not do that which is bad in his mind, but the law in his flesh causes him to do what is bad and to not do that which is good. This is covered in Romans, 7. Back in John, 14, 21 and 23 Jesus goes on, "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." At this point the man not only has Christ (the Word) in him, but also has God the Father in him. This is covered in romans, 8, 11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." When God the Father dwells or lives in a person, he is stronger and overcomes the law of the flesh in the person, so the person actually does what is good and doesn't do what is bad. This is when a person is filled with the Holy Ghost and does always that which is pleasing to God. He is then a full and complete member or part of God's body. Romans, 8, 14 goes on "For as many as are led by the spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, ABBA, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:" In this condition, The Spirit of God (the Father) in the person shows the Word in the person what he is doing ( his intents) and the Word translates the intents into thoughts that we can understand, gives them to the person, and the person then does the work in the flesh to fulfill the intents of The Spirit of God. When God has completed making all of the needed body members for his body in this way, he will no longer need this creation and will destroy this creation by coming into it to reclaim all of the motions that he used to make it, which will effectively burn it up and he will then create a new much better creation for him to live in through his body members.

        Those who do not want to be God's body members would like to believe that they can live their own lives the way that they desire to and somehow save themselves and be as gods, but God has purposely made that impossible.

        Both of those statements are false. Jesus is not the only son of God. He is the only begotten Son of God because he was directly made by God the Father. The rest of us are made by Jesus Christ. All is not the only son of God, but as many as come to God and become his body members become his adopted sons.

        The absolute intelligence is God the Father or the Spirit of God and he has purposely made us to be inadequate to be able to communicate with him directly because he does not want independent people who want to rule their own lives and make God to be their servant. He wants those who see that it is much better to have the absolute intelligence to rule and are willing to work with him to make a better life for all, but he allows people to make the other choice, so everybody can see just how much that way destroys the world instead of making it better. The current implementation of Man's COVID-19/ 5G plans are a good example of that.

        Sincerely,

        Paul

        Dear Paul,

        I greatly appreciated your work and discussion. I am very glad that you are not thinking in abstract patterns.

        While the discussion lasted, I wrote an article: "Practical guidance on calculating resonant frequencies at four levels of diagnosis and inactivation of COVID-19 coronavirus", due to the high relevance of this topic. The work is based on the practical solution of problems in quantum mechanics, presented in the essay FQXi 2019-2020 "Universal quantum laws of the universe to solve the problems of unsolvability, computability and unpredictability".

        I hope that my modest results of work will provide you with information for thought.

        Warm Regards, `

        Vladimir

          Dear Vladimir,

          I looked at you contest paper and I find that you do have a different approach than many that is positive. The main problems that I find is the attempt to fit concepts into the currently accepted quantum physics models that consider the vacuum of space to be either composed of or at least contain some undefined material that generates either vacuum energy or zero-point energy, etc. This is all unnecessary once you come to understand that matter particles, energy photons, and field particles are all composed of simple linear motions. All interactions then become motion transfers between these entities and the vacuum is just a vacuum, which contains these motion entities and provides the positions for them to move in. Motion transfers between them can transform any one of them into any other one of them. This can all be seen in the observational evidence generated by particle accelerators, etc. The total motion content and the total number of motions is always conserved. Man in this world does not yet have the ability to observe individual field particles, however. This means that man cannot currently observe that when an energy photon gives energy to an electron in an atom to raise it to the next level in the atom, it only gives it its fourth dimensional motion that gives it its frequency, wavelength, and dynamic mass effects and then it becomes a field particle. When that electron later interacts with a field particle, it gives it the motion that it had received from the energy photon, which gives it enough motion that it would go faster than the speed of light. The speed of light is the threshold level of motion that allows motion to travel into the particle's fourth dimensional motion, so all of the motion that is greater than that speed is transferred to the particle's fourth dimensional motion, which generates its frequency, wavelength, and dynamic mass effects and the field particle becomes an energy photon. No mysterious vacuum energy or zero-point energy is needed.

          You seem to understand that the static mass of a matter particle is generated by its angular motion, but vortexes, solitons, and pilot waves, etc. are generally two-dimensional structures. As an example, you can visualize the rotation of the earth on its axis as each particle in the earth traveling in a circular two dimensional plane around the axis. The problem with using such a structure as a matter particle is that it would not create a static mass effect that is three dimensionally stable (the same in all directions). As an example if you were to apply motion to the earth at its north axis and push it straight down on its axis so that the axis direction was not changed, you would experience less mass resistance than if you applied the motion to a place on the earth that would cause its axis direction to be changed. You can check this out experimentally by mounting a bicycle wheel on a shaft so it can rotate around the shaft and then rotating the wheel while you hold onto each end of the shaft. You will notice that you can move the shaft and wheel up, down, to either side, or forward or backward with very little resistance to the motion that you apply to move it as long as the shaft ends remain pointing in the same direction, but if you apply motion in a direction that would change the axis direction, you will notice a very great resistance or mass effect. To generate a three dimensionally stable mass effect that is the same in all directions, you need a three-dimensional motion structure. I provide how this can be possible in my papers in the contests on this site. Moreover, a rotation requires at least the continual interaction between two simple linear motions to generate and maintain it. It is fairly easy to see that at large scales, something like the rotation of the earth around the sun requires the simple linear motion contained in the earth, which is modified by the motion of the field flow of field particles in the gravity fields of both the earth and the sun, etc. Even when you look at a supercooled fluid, there are still several motions that continue to go on in and through it. The electrons continue to move around in the molecules and atoms of the fluid. The nuclear particles still move around in the nucleuses of the atoms. The Flows of field particles that contain the nuclear particles within the nucleuses and contain the electrons within the external fields of atoms and those that hold the atoms together in the molecules and that hold the molecules together in larger scale objects are all still moving around in the supercooled fluid. This all happens even at absolute zero. In addition to this, there are generally many other fields from other external sources that intersect and interact with the fluid, etc. These can provide the needed motion to generate and maintain a soliton in such a supercooled fluid since it does not contain the larger scale random motions that would normally be present in the fluid at higher temperatures that would disperse the soliton, etc. They are not really self-organizing (self-generating) or self-sustaining entities. Matter particles require an energy photon that contains enough fourth-dimensional motion to at least make one and usually two matter particles and the photon must experience an angular motion input such as when it comes into contact with an inner high-density field sphere in the external field of an atom or matter particle. This is necessary to pass the threshold of entrance of motion into the fifth dimension. Normally half of the motion that is transferred into the fifth-dimension travels in one direction in the fifth-dimension and the other half travels in the opposite direction. This generates a matter particle and also generates its antimatter particle. The fifth dimensional motion drains back down into the lower three dimensions in a sequential pattern that varies from a zero-transfer level to a maximum level and then back down to the zero level. When the motion into one dimension reaches its maximum level the motion transfer into the next dimension begins and reaches its maximum level just as the transfer into the first dimension reaches the zero level. At that time, motion transfer into the third dimension begins and reaches its maximum level just as transfer into the second dimension reaches zero. At this point transfer back into the first dimension begins again and the cycle continues indefinitely. This is only an example and it does not work exactly that way, but you should get an idea of the requirements to make it work from the example given. The motion added to the lower three dimensions would cause the photon to travel faster than the speed of light, so the excess motion is transferred into the photon's fourth dimensional motion, so the only thing that remains is the angular motion component that causes the photon to take a curved path that encloses back upon itself to form a cyclical enclosed motion path that continues indefinitely. This path is what we call a matter particle. If the photon's fourth-dimensional motion is fast enough, so that its wavelength fits properly into the enclosed path of the matter particle, the proper angular motion component exists to allow transfer of motion back into the fifth-dimension and the interdimensional motion cycle is complete and the matter particle is stable. That cycle also continues indefinitely. If the photon's wavelength does not fit properly into the enclosed path, the angular component is not present and, therefore, the motion stays in the fourth dimension and after all of the fifth-dimensional motion has drained into the lower three dimensions and then has been transferred into the photon's fourth dimensional motion, the curved path ends and the photon goes off into space in some direction at the speed of light again. This gives a general idea of how a photon can be changed into a matter particle and visa versa. The antimatter particle is the same except that its curved path is in the opposite direction. If a matter particle and an antimatter particle interact, their angular motion components cancel out causing them both to become energy photons. It is possible to just make a matter particle or an antimatter particle without creating the other one, but that is too advanced for this level of discussion.

          It is possible to break molecular bonds, etc. with high frequency energy, but you would also need to be able to identify every COVID-19 virus particle in someone's body and be able to just target the virus particles without harming the person's body structures. Would you be able to do that? Unless you have some other way around that.

          One of the interesting things about the COVID-19 outbreak is that both 5G technology implementation and the outbreak of COVID-19 occurred in the November to December time frame in Wuhan China and the outbreak in Wuhan was very bad. It has also been bad in other places where 5G has been implemented to a great degree, such as in Iran, Italy, and New York in the U.S. It has been said by some that the 30 to 300gigahz frequency range of 5G can cause many problems in man. One of the problems mentioned is inhibition of the immune system. It looks like that part at least is true. Some of the other problems such as mental fog, difficulty in concentration, short term memory problems, dizziness, and balance problems, etc. are now being said to be symptoms of COVID-19. One other big problem that I have seen is that because many meat processing plants have been closed due to COVID-19 infection of their employees, many animals have been killed and buried. This will likely result in food shortages. This could have been and still can to some degree be avoided by having the National Guard buy the animals from farmers and transport them to processing plants. Some National Guard personnel should be quickly trained to do the processing and after the processing is done the meat can be sent out into the normal food chain. The last that I heard about it, many chickens and hogs had already been destroyed, but the cattle had not yet been killed. It would be greatly negligent of the government to allow the problems of the COVID-19 infections to be followed by famine. It has also been mentioned that other food crops are being left to rot in the fields. This should not be allowed.

          Sincerely,

          Paul

          Hi Paul...

          The inability to close the gap between one's understanding of "what can currently be observed" and "that which can only be indirectly observed" is driving the necessity for a more precise model of "fundamental", but if one's observational "understanding" is invalid in terms of the underlying structure, it is highly unlikely that the underlying structure can be resolved by numerological refinements of one's observational "understanding".

          Fortunately, Gödel's thermos do not apply to the geometry by which numerologies are derived.

          REF: - Topic :"The Misalignment Problem" by Jack James

          Can your "simple linear motions" be defined as occupants of discrete spatial units... i.e. QE?... and if so, how do you define a discrete spatial unit??

          Without resolve of Causal Intelligence... i.e. "aether" as a spatial mapped geometry... to dictate spatial structure required for emission of discrete minimum/indivisible quanta of Energy (QE,) and all subsequent QE occupancy distribution within addressable discrete spatial minimum/indivisible units (QI), I agree that it is impossible to understand observable particle behavior.

          If "something from nothing" is, as per your assessment, "contrary to all of observed reality"... from what cometh "God?

          A logic singularity is the boundary between two logic frameworks... e.g. a Spaceless-Timeless logic framework and a Space-Time logic framework.

          A spatial singularity is not necessarily "a zero-dimensional point"... e.g. the UQS spatial singularity is the 3D spherical quantization geometry that encapsulates the point boundary between a Causal Spaceless-Timeless logic framework and a Reality Space-Time logic framework, and provides 24 planar addresses (QI) for occupancy of initial QE emission.

          Points in a 3D spatial quantization geometry are dimensionless... i.e. can not contain spatially defined Energy (QE)... and thus motions, as point to point transitions, are Phenomenal Energy (PHE)... i.e. not motion of spatially defined QE.

          If "simple linear motions" are to be defined as occupants of discrete spatial units... i.e. QE... quantization of Space as discrete units is required for QE to accumulate, and motion from point to point is merely a consequence of QE/QI accumulation dictates that emerge as Available System Intelligence (ASI), from prior resolve of spontaneous harmonious QE distribution within the spatial singularity geometry mapped intelligent network.

          UQS is a 3D spatial singularity, that algorithmically expands as unified volumetric units to map the static, Causal 2D planar QI address quantization of Space... i.e. a valid unified field root geometry of the Causal Intelligent Network.

          If, as per your assessment, "we live in a motion continuum", a continuous pulsed QE emission is required to reconfigure the QE/QI configuration, and that configuration must be spontaneously, harmoniously resolved on each Q-tick for the entire field... i.e. all QE/QI occupancy is determinate on each pulse... on the basis of internal system logic circuit monitoring... e.g. Human-kind.

          The UQS model assumes a continuous constant 24 QE emission on each Q-tick, and the knowledge of prior configurations is reiterated to resolve the configuration of next.

          Scale independent recursive 3D closure, is an inherent property of UQS geometry... i.e. QE spin/rotation is fundamental to the Causal Intelligent Network.

          Your assessment that "If all motions contained the same motion amplitude (speed) there would be no need to have separate time measurements. If someone asked you how long it took you to get to your meeting with them, you could just say 5 miles because all trips of five miles distance would be equal to each other" is misleading... i.e. "If all motions contained the same motion amplitude (speed)" one could not move in relation to one's initial location.

          In the UQS model, QE/QI accumulation... i.e. QE transition potential,.. is unlimited, and is released as dictated by current Available System Intelligence (ASI), which is derived from all prior pulsed QE/QI system configuration resolve... i.e. QE "speed" is theoretically unlimited The "something from nothing" issue is not resolved by evasion, and attempting to work from manifestation back to principle can make one highly "intellectual", but intellectual knowledge is always subject to revision, for it does not prove itself.

          A "something from nothing" creation model that starts with an imprecisely defined entity... i.e. "God"... and then postulates a logic singularity between God-kind and Human-kind, with no precise Reality mechanism to differentiate the two logic frameworks, is conducive to highly subjective inference.

          The UQS creation model does not start with Cause as a singularity, as you imply.

          The UQS creation model starts with Cause Energy, which as Spaceless-Timeless Energy eliminates the question of "before"... i.e. time as a logic parameter is not supported within the Spaceless-Timeless logic frame.

          The UQS geometry singularity is then utilized as the logic mechanism which differentiates Spaceless-Timeless Cause Energy from Space-Time Energy, and provides the emergent intelligence... i.e. spatial map... for QE distribution equal in all directions...i.e. as observed 3D spatial Reality... over a pulsed emission... i.e. Q-Tick as the temporal element of observed Reality.

          In regard to your query as to "What observations of Space-Time Energy Reality have you made?", it should be noted that observation of Phenomenal Energy (PHE) events, by two or more observers, may be consistent, but interpretations of observation are mental model dependent.

          My observations of gravity are text book consistent, but my interpretation of my observations of gravity... i.e. objects fall down instead of up, because there is locally more QE entanglement potential below, than above the object... is facilitated by the UQS model.

          I consider utilization of an undefined term... i.e. "stuff"... in the text book scholarly interpretation of gravity as an observable property of all Phenomenal Energy (PHE) events that demonstrate spatial motion of "stuff" over time, an evasion of gravity as evidence of an unobservable spatially defined substance... i.e. Energy Quanta (QE)... and gravity associated mechanisms of "that which can only be indirectly observed" that invalidate one's understanding of "what can currently be observed", which were discovered in 1911, have only recently been given academic credentialed world media exposure.

          REF: Ted Talks: Dr. Boaz Almog Univ. of Tel Aviv... "Superconductor Levitation/Quantum Locking" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXHczjOg06w

          My reference to "dominate western media" is inclusive but not limited to scholarly interpretations of "Christian Scriptures", and utilization of undefined terminology by scholars of single cultural, temporally constrained scriptures, has thwarted man's knowledge of his ability to utilize mechanisms of "that which can only be indirectly observed" to communicate with Absolute Intelligence ... i.e. man's denial of Absolute Intelligence may be a matter of indoctrination, rather than as you infer, a matter of choice.

          An inability to "heal thy self", may be due to man's inability to access procedural insights required to achieve obedience, rather than man's willfulness, and although direct commands seemingly do not necessitate scholarly interpretation, the lack of scholarly procedural analysis of direct commandments, may be due to the scholar's inability to obey.

          Selectivity of, and inconsistency in, scholarly interpretations of, Space-Time Energy Reality observations, and "Christian Scriptures", have been motivational in my investigation into personal communications with Absolute Intelligence.

          Whether scholarly verifiable as "Christian Scripture", or not, I make application of the wisdom in ~"no man can know the things of God, except that which the spirit within him, reveals unto him".

          UQS is not a theory... i.e. it is procedural geometry to facilitate CAD/SIM of single source QE emission... and Utilizing the UQS Space-Time Energy Reality model, I have made application of the concept of an emergent logic structure, and have verified procedurals for my personal communication with an Absolute Intelligence.

          REF: - Topic: "Modeling Universal Intelligence" by Sue Lingo

          What has been revealed to me, is that a more precise geometry model does not necessarily negate prior attempts to verbalize fundamental processes, and I see no contradiction between your interpretation of God as "composed of three parts that all work together" and a UQS facilitated model of Absolute Intelligence as composed of 3 parts... i.e. Cause as intent, Space as discrete form, and QE as sprit.

          Nor do I find the concept of Space-Timer as Cause's Spaceless feeling of a Timeless now, inconsistent with your assessment that "God the Father created all things through his Son", but a more precise geometry model does necessarily constrain interpretive analysis, and thus eliminates subsequent dogma.

          If as you postulate, God "has purposely made us to be inadequate to be able to communicate with him directly", by what mechanism was the "word of God" revealed, as recorded in numerous, diverse, multicultural historical records, to Human-kind prior to Jesus?... and why would that mechanism of revelation not be available to multicultural Human-kind subsequent to Jesus??

          In that you conclude, "absolute intelligence" facilitates "a better life for all", I feel justified in my commitment to a more precise model that facilities procedurals for verifiable communication with an Absolute Intelligence.

          Please note that I am in an application development phase of the UQs Virtual Quantum Lab Game, and although I have made exception for the duration of the FQXi essay contest, I can not continue to justify a private communication channel unless one's communication demonstrate an in depth familiarity with the open source online UQS publications, and one is willing to filter their logic edit criteria as procedurally specified in my essay, which the commentary herein is an example.

          REF: - Topic: "Modeling Universal Intelligence" by Sue Lingo

          Sue Lingo

          UQS Author/Logician

          UQS Matrix Mechanix www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com

          This is a copy of my comment to Gerry Leslie Klein on his paper's page on May 23, 2020

          Dear Gerry,

          I read your paper and I see that you have found that motion is an important thing to understand when considering the difference between something and nothing. When one looks at the observational information from particle accelerator interactions, it becomes clear that all things that we observe in the universe (field particles, energy photons, and matter particles and all combinations of them are completely composed of simple linear motions that are structured within them in such a way as to give them their observed output results from interactions with other such entities. This means that motion is not something that exists in both something and nothing, but that motion is the something and the lack of motion is the nothing. If you were to somehow stop all motion you would cause all of something to cease to exist and all would be nothing. There, of course, would still be the possibility that the spatial system that contains motions by providing positions for them to exist in and to move in from one position to the next one, etc. would still exist, but we cannot directly observe that except in the form of observing distances between the entities that are composed of motions. With no motions in the spatial system, we could not observe space except as a blackness all around us. Of course, since we are also composed of motions, we would not be here to make any observations. We would also go out of existence and be nothing.

          The real basic questions then are:

          1. Where did the spatial system come from?

          2. Where Did all of the motions come from?

          Since the motions are the opposite of the nothing, they could not come from the nothing that does not contain them. They had to have been introduced from some other source. The same thing would apply to the spatial system because the spatial positions that can contain motions have to be something in order for the motions to have their existence in those places and to be able to travel from one space position to the next, which enables motions to function as they do. So, you can see that there are two basic somethings that exist, which are space and motion. Notice that time is not one of them. In your formula, V=S/T, it can be solved for T or time. It then becomes T=S/V. Time is, therefore, only a relationship between S or space (distance) and V or motion, velocity when a certain direction is important or speed when the direction is not needed. In reality each motion contains a certain motion amplitude level or a certain amount of motion. This is why one motion can travel a certain distance while another motion would only travel half that distance. If all motions contained the same quantity of motion, the concept of time would not be necessary because all trips of any given distance would be the same. If someone asked you how long your trip to him was, you could just say ten miles and he would know what you meant because all trips of ten miles would be the same. If space or distance is measured in miles, you could use the amount of motion contained in all motions as the standard velocity or speed of motion. The formula would then become T=S/1 (because there would only be one level of motion and that would be the standard level) or T=S. This would mean that time would equal the distance traveled. Since motion comes in a continuous range of motion amplitudes from zero to at least the speed of light V=S/T formula could be used to compare two motions that have different motion amplitudes with each other. The time parameter is used to compare the motion with another standard motion such as the motion of one revolution or 1/24th of a revolution of the earth on its axis or a specific number of waves of the frequency of oscillation of a specific kind of atom under specific environmental circumstances, etc. Time is not an existent entity such as a separate dimension as many believe, but is just a relationship between motions. We live in a motion continuum. The specific conditions of all the motions in the universe that existed, but no longer exist because some motion(s) have moved to new current position(s) is the past. It no longer exists because at least one or more motions have now moved to different positions in space. You can't go back into the past since those previous motion conditions no longer exist. They have been replaced by the current positions of all motions in the universe. The conditions that all motions in the universe will be in, but have not yet moved into all of those positions is the future, but you can't go into the future because they have not yet moved into those positions. We exist always only in the present. Because that is all that is really there to be in.

          Motion does describe the motion of objects, but those objects are all just composed of motions themselves. Motions are the only somethings in existence in the spatial system. Nothing is just the absence of motions.

          I used to believe in evolution, but as science advanced it has now gotten to the point that I see that the concept could not adequately explain the existence of all of the species of living creatures let alone the creation and progression of the universe, etc. as some would like to believe. The math just doesn't support it. As an example, we are told that the earth is about four and one half billion years old and that the reason we do not see major evolutionary changes occurring is that they take a long time to occur, so none have occurred in man's short recorded history time. If you set the time per major change to be ten thousand years to make it so that none would have occurred in recorded history and divide the four and a half billion years by ten thousand, you get a total of only four hundred and fifty thousand major changes possible during that time. That is nowhere near the amount of needed major changes that would have needed to occur to start from one single cell living creature and create all of the creatures that exist now and all of those that did exist, but are now extinct. Even the fourteen and one half billion years from the beginning of the universe would only produce one million four hundred fifty thousand changes. That sounds like a lot of changes on the surface, but when you begin to consider the great complexity of living creatures and all of the variables in them in their structures, it still is not nearly enough to produce all living creatures, especially when you consider that at the beginning of the universe and for a long period of time thereafter the environment would not support life. Once conditions were such in some place that would allow life to exist, it would still take a very long time for the first living creature to come in to existence. This means that the time to develop all of the existent and extinct creatures would be much less than the fourteen billion years. If you figured ten billion years for all evolution to occur up to the present, you only get one million major changes that could occur.

          The production of the first living creature by chance occurrences is even less likely to work. In every living single cell creature there are protein machines that do various types of work to maintain the cell. It has been estimated that a minimum of two hundred such machines would be necessary for a single cell living creature of any kind. These protein machines are made of chains of amino acids. In living creatures these chains vary from sixty-six to over fourteen hundred amino acids in their chains. To look at how such protein machines could evolve, I looked at a machine with one hundred amino acids in its chain. It turns out that one times ten to the two hundred and twentieth possible different protein machines could be made with a chain length of one hundred amino acids. Any natural random method of production of such protein machines would have to produce at least half of the number of machines possible in order to have any reasonable chance of producing the one that will work in the living cell. This would mean five tenths times ten to the two hundred twentieth machines would need to be produced. It has been estimated that there are only about one times ten to the eightieth matter particles in the universe. Even if each protein machine contained only one matter particle, you could not randomly make enough protein machines to have any real chance to make the one needed to produce the living cell. Of course, each protein machine contains a very large number of matter particles. This is only to get one of the needed two hundred protein machines and near the low end of the chain size range of from sixty-six to fourteen hundred amino acids per machine. It is obvious from this simple calculation that natural random production of the machines would not possibly work. There would need to be an intelligence working by choosing the right amino acid for each position in the chain and to build them into it to make the protein machines.

          For these reasons and many others, such as the very complex multilevel hierarchical structure of the universe, starting with very simple structures (linear motions) and combining them together to make more and more complex layers of structures in a similar way to the methods that man uses to build complex structures, which show an intelligence behind its structure, etc.

          It took me over twenty-two years of analyzing scientific observational evidence to come to the conclusion, but I finally decided that the universe had to have been created by a very intelligent living being. The math just does not support the natural creation concept.

          Concerning the inability to sense an absolute frame of reference, it is necessary to understand that in order to detect such an absolute frame of reference it would be necessary to be able to detect absolute spatial positions. Since all spatial positions except those that contain motions contain nothing and we, therefore, cannot discern such positions from one another when they are adjacent to each other, the only way for us to observe spatial positions is to observe them as the places that contain motions or something. The problem is that all motions continue to change the spatial positions that they are located in. The enclosed path that the energy photon in a matter particle travels in is much larger than a single spatial position and all of the motion flows within a matter particle make it impossible to use it to isolate an absolute spatial position. The same thing applies to an energy photon to a lesser degree due to its angular motion content that effectively makes it larger than a single spatial position. An individual field particle may follow a path through single spatial positions, but man cannot observe a single field particle at this time. The result is that in the absence of a way to identify an individual absolute spatial position in the spatial system, the only thing that can be done is to compare the flow of change of positions that motion entities create as they continue to change their positions in space. This leaves us with working with relative motions instead of absolute motions. In reality all motions move in actual absolute spatial positions, but man's observations can't look at those positions in fine enough detail to discern their absolute positions and there is no nonmoving static object that could be put into an absolute spatial position to mark it if one is determined because everything that exists is composed of motions and is, therefore, moving. If man had the ability to identify an individual spatial position it might be possible to mark it with three circular cyclical motions at ninety degrees to each other that would intersect at that point, but you could not know about absolute spatial directions of alignment of spatial positions without marking several such absolute positions and then there would be many difficulties in attaining that ability. It is not surprising, therefore, that man has not been able to measure absolute motions. This in no way implies that only relative motions exist. It just means that man has not been able to determine a way to connect motions to the absolute background spatial positions that would allow all motions to be compared to each other absolutely.

          Sincerely,

          Paul

          6 days later

          Dear Sue,

          I completely agree that it is best to stay as much as possible in agreement with direct observations. When it is not possible to directly observe something, it is best to at least use indirect observation results. There is, of course, always a level of structure that can't be observed either directly or indirectly. This is the case with the smallest structural level that has been discovered from results of observations, but no means have yet been discovered to even indirectly observe it internally. At present this is the structural level of matter, energy photon, and field particles. Analyzing observations made from the level above this level can give us hints as to the compositions and structuring of these things, however. As an example, man cannot currently observe matter particles internally even indirectly, but man can attract and accelerate them to near the speed of light and aim groups of them at each other to cause them to interact with each other. The outputs of the interactions can then be indirectly observed and analyzed. As a result of this it has been determined that the original matter particles may be destroyed, but many new matter particles and energy photons can be created as a result of an interaction between two particles, such as protons. The rest mass of all of the new particles created during an interaction can be greater than the rest mass of the two original input particles. This means that rest mass is not conserved, since the amount of rest mass in the world is increased by the interaction. A matter particle and its antimatter particle can interact resulting in the conversion of them into photons with no rest mass, so it can vary in either direction. If you use E=MC^2 to convert the rest mass into energy, it is obvious that some of the linear kinetic motion of the two original matter particles and their rest masses has been converted into the rest masses of the particles that are produced by the interaction. If you add to this the output kinetic motions of the new matter particles and the energy contained in the energy photons that are produced by the interaction, etc., it becomes apparent that total energy (rest mass energy and kinetic motion energy) of the output entities is equal to the total energy of the two input particles that interacted with each other. From this it can be observed indirectly that the great amount of kinetic linear motion that was contained in the two input matter particles has been converted into matter particles and energy photons. The total amount of motion is conserved in these interactions. Since new matter particles and energy photons have been created by the interaction, it is clearly seen that the number of matter particles and energy photons is also not conserved. This means that only linear motion in all of its forms is clearly conserved. The things that are constructed of linear motion, such as matter, energy photon, and field particles are not conserved because they can be converted into each other and can also be converted back into linear motions. These things can be observed indirectly in the output results of collisions between two matter particles that contain a great amount of kinetic linear motion near the speed of light. Once it is understood that fields, energy photons and matter particles are all composed of linear motions, the next step is to get an understanding of how linear motions can be structured or built up together in each of them give each of them their observed output results during interactions with other particles, etc. I am showing how that can work, in a way that is in accordance with observations both direct and indirect. Since man in this world, for the most part, has not yet come to understand these things, there is still much knowledge that must be obtained in seeking to fully understand this structural level of field, energy photon, and matter particle structure and operation. To attempt to skip over this level and go to the next level of simple motions and the dimensional system that they exist and move in and that supports them, would be very unwise because of man's current lack of understanding of the details of the structural layer of field, energy photon, and matter particle structure and operation that exists above that layer of simple motions and the dimensional system and the current lack of observational information from experiments designed to become able to indirectly observe the internal structuring and operation of field, energy photon, and matter particles. This leaves one in the realm of using just his imagination without adequate connection to observed reality to guide in development of a proper understanding of that structural level. Man, always wants to understand what is at the end of the line, but true understanding only comes by traveling down the line to the end while accumulating needed new information along the way, so that at the end you can totally understand the complete system. Man's current lack of information concerning this structural level has led to belief in many imaginary concepts like zero-point energy and vacuum energy, etc. that don't really exist. It looks like you are basing your structural concepts to some degree on such things with the idea that energy can be static and not moving to mark spatial positions, etc. The universe is completely composed of empty space except where it contains the motions that move within it. Nothing else is needed to make all of its reality.

          What does Godel's thermos apply to. Does it apply to how Godel always had a supply of good hot coffee to keep him alert to allow him to get more work done? I'm just kidding. Instead of trying to work only in a more and more restricted language form to attempt to work with more precision, which restricts one's ability to communicate effectively with most other people who do not operate within those restrictions, I have chosen to learn and understand man's general language form, so I can as much as possible, both understand what someone else is trying to convey to me and also to give me the ability to communicate to others the information that I need to transfer to man in a way that can as much as possible be understood by as many as possible. As a part of this, I have found that we all fail to be completely accurate in our communications with others no matter how much of a perfectionist we are. I also used to try to do things perfectly and with precision and thought that math would allow me to express things in more that way, but over time I found that the more precise you make your language structure, the greater is the amount of detail that gets left out. Math could be designed to include those details, but then it becomes less precise also. We live in a world of many things that are connected to each other in a complex interactive web. Language is an attempt to model that complex web and is, therefore, complex and can be imprecise because it may not always be clear which of the many meanings that can be expressed by a given word or phrase, etc. is the one that is intended by the speaker. It takes a long time of using the language to learn how to be able to gain understanding of this intent from the overall context of what is being presented by the speaker, but it is well worth the time spent because it not only helps you to understand what others are trying to say to you, but also helps you to frame your communications with others in such a way as to promote their understanding of you, which is important if you have something important to convey to them. By applying these principles my guess is that you were actually talking about Godel's theorems. You may have entered theroms in your word processor and it automatically converted it to thermos. Is that right? Man's word processors are still not good at determining the intended word from overall context of the full text.

          A simple linear motion uses a few stored information entities to allow it to operate as it does.

          1. Its current spatial position

          2. Its current composite three-dimensional direction of travel

          3. Its current motion amplitude (its motion amount or speed)

          Its only operation in the lack of an interaction with another motion is to continually change its current spatial position in accordance with its stored direction and motion amplitude information. It cannot change its direction or motion amplitude information. These can only be changed as a result of an interaction with one or more other motions. They are read only to the simple linear motion. It can only write into or change its current spatial position information to allow it to continually change its spatial position. Since it continues to change its position in space it could only occupy a given discrete spatial unit transitionally because it would then continue on to the next position. It, therefore, could not remain in a given position to mark that position as a physical existent minimum spatial position in a spatial network of any kind. No motion can do that because if it did that it would not be a motion because it would be stationary or not moving. All forms of energy come down to being simple linear motions, so no energy could be present and just remain in a single spatial position to mark it as a real existent spatial position either. In reality the spatial positions don't need to be marked to exist. They exist even when they are empty.

          The closest thing to an aether that really exists is that most of space is permeated by simple linear motions that travel at the speed of light or less. These are field particles. It is actually relatively easy to understand observable particle behavior when you understand the simple linear motions that they are constructed of and how those motions are structured within them to cause them to behave as they do in external interactions with other particles. The details of the structure of the spatial system are not generally needed to explain most of the particle hierarchical level of structure in the same way that atomic level structure can be understood without knowing all of the details of the particle level of structure.

          When I was younger, man's accepted theory of the structure of the universe was called the steady state theory and it was presumed by that theory that the universe had always existed. It was thought that stars would burn out and explode into clouds of dust that would then condense into new stars, etc. Scientists did not seem to think that it would be a problem for the universe to always have existed with no beginning. Later scientific knowledge increased and it began to be apparent that it did not always exist, but had to have been created. This has led to the current situation. Most scientists currently don't want to consider that God could have always existed and could have created the universe. They therefore, try to think of some way that the universe could have created itself from nothing, which is actually much less likely, especially when you consider that as scientific knowledge has increased it has become vary apparent that the universe is extremely complex in structure, such that even in fourteen billion years it would not be possible for it to have all come about naturally by random processes. Since man was not against the concept that the universe always existed, but when that has been proven to be wrong, has now rejected the concept that God could have always existed, which has not been proven to be wrong, it can only be that those who are currently in control of the scientific structure desire to not believe in God's existence. The result has been the introduction of many theories that don't even conform to scientific observations and understandings that have been proven to be right in conformance to reality. One observable evidence that we have that God could have always existed is that the Christian scriptures say that God put motion into the creation to make things. If God always existed his motions that he is constructed of would be eternal and would be conserved and that is what we observe in the motions in the universe.

          I am not sure how you are using the phrase (Spaceless-Timeless logic framework). A framework would normally be the base structure upon which the system as a whole is built. Logic implies a set of intelligent rules or operations that enable the production and/or operation of a system as opposed to random occurrences. From this it can be understood that you mean that there is a set of rules and/ or operations that together build and/or operate a Spaceless-Timeless system. The word logic also implies that the set of rules and/or operations will construct a working system that will produce some desired output results. This generally can only be the result of a thought process of a mind that designs the system rules and/or operations with the intent of using it to produce those intended results. Do you believe in the existence of such a mind and if yes what is the nature of that mind? Generally, any functioning system that produces some real output product, such as a real Space-Time structural system that contains real things like space, matter, and energy photons in that space would have to start with some real system structure. You say that the 3D spherical quantization geometry encapsulates the point boundary between the Causal Spaceless-Timeless logic framework and a Reality Space- Time logic framework. The implication here is that the Causal Spaceless-Timeless logic framework system somehow causes or generates the 3D spherical quantization geometry around a point. Is that point a spatial point and if not, what is its consistency? How does it operate in its spaceless-timeless environment to make that encapsulation and does it also create the point and if so, how does it do that? If it does not create the point where does it come from. It would seem that by normal geometry concepts that more than one point cannot exist in a geometric system without space between them to differentiate one point from another. A three-dimensional spatial system would by normal definition contain 3 dimensions, each of which would need to contain at least two points in order for them to be dimensions. This would mean at least a total of eight points in the composite 3-dimensional system. Given my present level of understanding of your concepts, it looks like in the beginning some spaceless-timeless system would have to be made according to a set of logic rules by some intelligent being who could make such rules with the purpose of creating a space-time logic system according to logic rules that would then allow it to create an actual real 3 dimensional system structure containing space and the entities that are in that space. In the beginning spaceless-timeless environment how would the point be constructed and how would the 3D spherical quantization that encapsulates it be constructed and what would they be constructed of? It is good that you see that the minimum size that an expansion of the universe began at is not necessarily a zero-dimensional point. Keep that in your mind. It is an important understanding.

          As I mentioned earlier, motions move from spatial point to spatial point, so true motions could not be you QE.

          A rotation or spin is a two-dimensional structure. If a QE remains on a single spatial point it could not spin. It would have access only to the point that it was on and would, therefore, have a point to spin around, but would not have an extension beyond that point that it could spin around that point. Moreover, a spin or rotation requires a continual interaction of at least two simple motions operating on points in the extension of an object that are beyond the center point of the spin. The center point does not rotate around the center axis because it is the center axis that everything else rotates around.

          You would be right that no one could move in relation to anyone else if all motions were of the same motion amplitude and they also all traveled in the same direction, but it is not true if they can travel in different directions.

          Working from manifestation or observation is the only way that concepts can be checked for validity or conformance to observed reality. It is also the way that new conceptualizations can be guided as they are formed and developed to most likely be accurate and true to reality. You are right that it does not prove itself, but the proof is in whether concepts can generate and operate reality as it is. A person can conceptualize concepts of how the world works in his own mind according to how he would like the world to work with no reference to observed reality, but the results will most likely be wrong in many areas. That is what I see going on more and more over time. It is setting scientific development back greatly.

          It is true that we could not know much about God if he did not desire for us to know things about him, but he has provided much information about himself and the creation that he made and what his purpose for making it was and even what our part is in his creation in the Christian Old and New Testaments and in images or likenesses of him and of invisible things that he has built into the creation as I explained in my previous comment to you. This is why we can get an idea of how atoms work even though we cannot see them, from looking at similarities between them and large-scale things that he made. God has given much information about himself. Because of this we can know God with more precision than we can know about many things in the earth. As an example, we are all of man, but we don't know a lot about our own structure concerning our body, soul, and spirit. As I mentioned in my previous comment, God gives us information about our soul and spirit that is still not widely known by man even though it has been in the scriptures for over two thousand years. The information that I am currently giving to man about field, energy photon, and matter particle structure from simple linear motions is new to this planet, but I recently found that in the scriptures, God gives this information and shows that it is another image of him. In Genesis 1, 1, it says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." God first tells us that he created the heaven and the earth. More information about the heaven, that it is divided into three heavens, etc. is given in other places in the scriptures, but here he tells us things about the earth structure. First, he says that it is meant to contain things that have shapes or forms, but it is empty of them or void. This tells us that he first constructed the empty spatial system. Part of that system is called the deep and it has a face or surface that is dark at that time (light had not yet been created). He then calls it waters and again mentions its face or surface. Then God's Spirit moves upon the face or surface of the waters. This is the introduction of all of the individual motions that would ever be in the earth system. They would be the simple linear motions that make up the field particles. Here God's Spirit is telling us that the field particles that he introduced into the earth are an image of him. Like God the father the field particles are invisible, but hold the matter particles together in the atoms, the atoms together in the molecules, and the molecules together in the large-scale structures, etc. They are also the source from which the energy photons and matter particles are made. Next God says, let there be light. The part of God that would say something is his Word, so the light is an image of the Word who made that image of himself. The light is the mediator between us and the world around us. It gives us information about things that exist outside of us in the world. God's Word is the mediator between man and the Spirit of God and gives us information about God's Spirit and what he is doing and what he wants us to do. This would be accomplished by adding more motion to some of the field particles to change them into energy photons. The next step is that God divided the light from the darkness. This would be the addition of more motion to some of the energy photons to turn them into matter particles, which would make them dark, since the energy photon within them is trapped within its enclosed motion path of the matter particle. Here it says that God did this, which would mean that the matter particles represent an image of God's body with God's Spirit and his Word in it, all working together to do God's will, which represents an image of the Holy Ghost, which is God's body. Notice that when the motions were added to the earth it caused time to begin as measured by the night and day. It is interesting that was the case before the sun and other stars or even the earth's firmament or heaven, etc. were made. Next it says "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Notice that God is still talking about the waters that are part of the earth's dimensional system. He makes three divisions in that system. The waters above the firmament, which he doesn't tell us what it is used for here, the firmament which is located in the middle and he later says that he added the sun the moon and stars, etc. to it, so we can see that this represents what we see as the universe and is the earth's Heaven. The third division is the waters under the firmament, which he gathers together and forms the liquid and solid forms of matter. This would be the making of the planets with seas and dry land. He then begins to make the living creatures, first in the seas and then on the dry land which he calls the earth. The final thing that he makes is man in God's image. All of this means that all that we see as the universe is just a part of the earth. If there are creatures on other planets that are made in God's image (that have a spirit, a soul, and a body) they are also earthlings and could also become members of God's body. As you can see a very great amount of information about the creation is given at the beginning of the scriptures and much more is given in other parts of the scriptures. Notice that the motions were added to the surface of the waters or deep of the earth and this generated the forms or shapes in the dimensional system. The waters are a part of a machine with four giant Wheels that see or sense the motions in the waters and translate those motions into output motions in our dimensional system. The machine is located in a four-dimensional structure. It is a part of a five- dimensional structure, which is the first heaven and is controlled by beings called the powers. The fifth- dimensional world is a part of a six-dimensional world called the second heaven that is controlled by the principalities. The sixth-dimensional world is part of a seven-dimensional world called the third heaven, which is controlled by the angels. The seven-dimensional world is part of an eight-dimensional world, which is reserved for God only. If you had a two-dimensional world on a wall in your house that had living beings on it, they could build little square houses for them to live in made out of lines with a small line on one side that could swing open and shut to make a door, so that they could go into their houses and shut their doors and feel safe from anyone watching them, but you could look down from the third- dimension above them and see all that they do. They could not see you because they would not have access to the third-dimension. In the same way those in control of each dimensional level could observe and even act in the lower dimensional worlds. Of course, God is at the top level and has ultimate control over all others. God is also the only one who exists outside of the creation. It appears that before he made the creation, God filled everywhere. It looks like he moved part of himself out of a place big enough in which to build the creation with some extra space outside of the creation, so that his very great amount of motion would not burn it up. I get this from places like Acts, 17,27-28, "That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being;". Concerning the Word, God says in John 1, 18 "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." If we put these two together, we see that God the Father has the Word in his bosom and he is the mediator between the Father and us and he says that we are in him also. Since we are in the creation, it must also be in him. Notice that a rib in a man is in his bosom, so if the reference in the scriptures about God taking a rib out of Adam to make eve is an image of God taking some of his motion out of that equivalent part of himself to make the creation it all fits together. A great amount of detailed information about God and his creation can be found in the scriptures. You may not believe the things about the heavens, etc. because you cannot observe them, but you seem to be willing to believe the concepts that you made up in your mind about how the creation happened when there is no observational evidence of that either. The three heavens are also an image of God. God says that the angels in the third heaven are ministering spirits, so they are an image of the Spirit of God. The Principalities in the second heaven would be the image of the Word and the Powers in the third heaven are an image of the Holy Ghost because they directly control the things in the earth.

          Because of the information that God has provided in the scriptures and in the images of himself in the creation, God is as precisely defined as most of the concepts behind science and it is not a something from nothing creation model because God has always existed and is the something who has created the something of the creation.

          The problem with the spaceless timeless cause energy is that it cannot be observed and is also not well defined as to what substance it is made of and how that substance is structured in it to cause it to work in the way that it is supposed to work and how it came into being. Moreover, the spaceless timeless world that it is in and comes from is also not defined as to what it is made of and how it functions. For the spaceless and timeless world to exist it must have some positive structure and things that exist in it. How do things work in that world?

          The three parts of God does not include cause as intent. Intents are what the Spirit of God generates as the initiators of all actions. God Does have a Spirit, but unless you are considering the QE to be an intelligent being capable of generating intents to plan, make, and do many varied things with an overall purpose for making the creation including making everything in it and including making us to become parts of himself (his body parts) and has plans to replace this limited temporary creation with a new eternal creation for him to live in inside of his body parts through his mediator ( the Word) without end, the QE would not be equal to God's Spirit. I am guessing that by "space as discrete form" you are equating the form of space as equal to God's body because it has a form, but if that is the case there is one big difference. Although space may come in some particular geometric form or shape and God's body will also have a form or shape, space is a form of emptiness while God's body is a form of a substance that is in existence that fills empty space making it no longer empty. In that sense it is the opposite of space. The form of space is passive in that it cannot act to make or do anything by itself while God uses his body to do things in the new creation, God's Body is active).

          I would say that there is a great difference between the act of creation of all things and a spaceless feeling of a timeless now. We could not have any feelings about anything if we had not been created. God likely could have had a feeling of a timeless now by just not adding motion to the creation, since time started when he added motion to it. Of course, without the motion it would have just remained to be an empty spatial system, which wasn't his intent. God is also much more than a simple Space-Timer.

          Before the Word of God took on the form of flesh of a man, God communicated to people by him in different ways. In the beginning, he communicated to Adam directly by speaking to him. Later after man's fall from God by sin, he communicated to man by words or visions, etc. given to those who were following God. As time went on God gave man commandments to do good things and to not do bad things as a guide to those who came later. The Old Testament is a compilation of these communications that God made with many people over time and contain much information that God has given to man about himself and the creation that he made. The Old testament time was a time for man to learn that he could not save himself, but needed God to save him. The commandments that God gave to man were good for man to do for his own benefit and God said that if a man would keep them (not sin) he could save himself because it was sin (breaking the commandments) that carried the penalty of death. God knew that man could not keep them because he had written laws into man's flesh that would cause man to sin. These laws, such as the individual survival imperative, the desire to have sexual pleasures, and the desire to think of one's self as better than others, etc. were good for individual survival and producing offspring to carry on after one's death, etc., but were not very good in man's relations with other men to work together. They were also not very good at promoting a relationship with God as their Lord or ruler over them because the law in them told them that they should be the preeminent one over all others. The end result was that all men sin and are, therefore, worthy of the penalty of death, but God planned at the beginning of the creation to provide a way for them to still be saved by having his word take on the body of flesh of a man and live a life without sin because he would have God's Spirit in him to overcome the laws of the flesh in him. Then he would be a worthy sacrifice to offer himself up and die as a payment to God for our sins, so that through him we could have our sins forgiven and be saved. God told about his future coming in the Old Testament times and those who believed him and trusted in God to save them through his coming and offering for their sins to be forgiven were saved through their belief at that time. Once Jesus came and preached the good news of salvation through him, all who believe in him and accept him as their Lord and Savior are saved. We now have both the Old testament to let us see that we need to be saved and can't live without sin by ourselves and save ourselves, but need to be saved through Jesus working in us as our Lord and Savior and can now believe in and receive him into us and be saved and become his body members, which is God's desire for us to be. God still does do works at times through those who are his body members. There are gifts of the Spirit that are given to people according to God's grace (favor). Since they are given by God as it favors him, you cannot pick and chose the one(s) that you want or when you can use them, etc. Part of the reason that those works are not seen very much in modern society is that most have been indoctrinated to not believe in God and one condition of receiving a gift such as a healing is that those receiving the gift must believe that God can and will heal them. There is even a record in the scriptures where Jesus was in a place and could not do many works there because of their unbelief. Because of this it is most likely that such works will be seen in out of the way places where the people have not been indoctrinated to not believe in God. One of the gifts is prophecy where God gives someone a message to give to one or more others. As an example, after Jesus died and was resurrected and ascended up to heaven, a prophet told Paul that when he went to Rome he would be put in chains (imprisoned) and that happened.

          The problem here is that God has made the only way to communicate with him to be through the Word in a way that is acceptable to him. You can make as many models as you want as precisely as you want, but they won't work unless you communicate with him in the way that is acceptable to him. You cannot force him to submit to you and serve you as you desire him to do, but instead if you want to truly communicate with him you have to come to him as a servant to him and learn from him the way that is acceptable to him, which you can find in the scriptures. Then you can come to him and he will listen to you. It is then up to him to decide if and how he will respond to you. The thing that you have to remember and accept is that God is rightfully the one in control as your creator, so you must come to him first as his willing servant. If you continue with him and seek him through the scriptures, he will tell you who he is, what he has done, what he is doing now, and what he will do in the future. Once he has shown you the things of him and you have received and believed them, he will then change your relationship to him to be an adopted son of God instead of being his servant.

          I can understand what it is like to be very busy because I also had times in my life where I was very busy at work. I am now retired from all of that, but I still keep busy with this contest and other things at times. Maybe we can continue to communicate during this contest if that is according to your desire and if I live and can still enter next year's contest we could continue again then. I won't likely study your other publications because I believe that you will do much better by widening your perspective of things rather than to continue to narrow it. I found that to work much better for me. Is someone paying you to produce the UQs Virtual Quantum Lab Game or is it just something that you desire to do?

          Sincerely,

          Paul

          12 days later

          This is a copy of my comment to James R. Arnold on his paper's page on June 10, 2020.

          Dear James,

          The things that makeup the various quantum weirdness concepts in physics today have come about due to a lack of information about the structure and internal operations of things at the smallest level, such as field, energy photon, and matter particles. Man has always desired to believe that all matter should behave like the solid billiard balls that you mention in your paper. As more has been understood about the internal workings of molecules and atoms, it has become apparent that those billiard balls are not really solid objects at all, but are mostly composed of empty space in which smaller and smaller objects (molecules, atoms, and matter particles) exist and move. With each new lower level of structural understanding, still smaller objects moving in what was previously considered to be the smallest billiard balls are observed. Today the matter particles are the objects considered to be the billiard balls, but like at the other levels of structure above it they don't completely conform to that behavior. The matter particles are somewhat different because they don't even come close to that behavior because their internal structures do not contain smaller objects that can behave that way. Fields have been treated in a similar way by man. The need for field particles was mainly considered as a way to provide a medium for the waves of energy photons to travel in, but they are not needed for that because the energy photon carries a motion within it that produces its frequency, wavelength, and dynamic mass wave effects. Because of this it was considered that they would also be like little billiard balls with large mass effects, etc. They were considered to not exist when it was found that they did not produce the expected wind effects. They are needed to properly explain magnetic fields and the chain of motion transfers that occurs when an energy photon gives up motion to an electron and then seems to completely disappear and when the electron later drops back down to its normal stable position in its atom and an energy photon is generated to carry away the electron's extra motion, etc. Matter particles, energy photon particles, and field particles are all composed of simple linear motions that are structured or put together in each of them in such a way as to produce their individual interactional behaviors. Except for the fixation on the billiard ball interaction concept, it should have been apparent long ago to man that this is the case from observation of high-speed particle interactions. If you cause two protons with low amounts of kinetic motion to interact with each other, you get an approximation of the billiard ball actions when all things are taken into consideration. When you give them kinetic motions at close to the speed of light, however, the particles may be completely destroyed. The output results of the interaction will likely contain several new matter particles with combined total rest masses that are far greater than the rest masses of the two input particles. Energy photons can also be created as outputs of the interaction. If you use E=MC^2, etc. to convert all of the mass and other motions of the output particles and energy photons, etc. into kinetic linear motion and then also do the same with the input particle's masses and their kinetic linear motions, you find that they are equal, so total motion content is conserved. It should be obvious to anyone that the new matter particles and energy photons were created and constructed out of the simple linear kinetic motions of the two input matter particles and those input matter particle's masses. This tells us that both matter particles and energy photons are composed of simple linear motions and that since energy photons and matter particles do not behave the same in interactions, the simple motions must be structured or built up in them differently in some way to generate this difference in interactional behavior.

          To get an understanding of how this structuring can be accomplished, it is best to start with an understanding of what a simple linear motion is and how it operates. In the absence of external interactions, simple linear motions operate under control of three simple operation information constructs, which are:

          1. Current location within the spatial system.

          2. Current three-dimensional composite direction of travel.

          3. Current motion amplitude (speed).

          A simple linear motion can only do one operation by itself, which is to continually change its spatial position from its current position to the next position in its current direction of travel in accordance with its current motion amplitude. It can only change (write into) its current position information. Its direction of travel and motion amplitude information structures are read only information structures to it and can only be changed as a result of an interaction between it and another motion.

          A field particle is just a simple linear motion that travels at the speed of light or less (for the most part). This is why a magnetic field operates only in line with its direction of travel. It does not contain any angular motions, such as those in energy photons and matter particles. Because field particles are very small and can only interact in line with their motion, they do not interact much except under certain circumstances, such as when a large number of them are compressed together in a small area and traveling in the same direction, such as in the field flow of a magnet. Atoms, molecules, and large-scale objects are held together by fields composed of field particles, but that needs to be introduced later at the proper time.

          An energy photon starts as a field particle and is changed into an energy photon by the acquisition of enough extra motion that would cause it to go faster than the speed of light. The speed of light is the threshold speed to allow motion to travel into the fourth-dimension. The excess speed over the speed of light is transferred into the particle's fourth-dimensional motion. The fourth dimension interacts with the other three dimensions at a ninety-degree angle in the same way that they interact with each other. It is a very small dimension, however, and only contains three dimensional positions. The center position intersects our three-dimensional structure and the two outside positions are outside of our dimensional structure. When a motion is introduced into the fourth dimension, it travels to one end of it and then it bounces off of the end and travels in the opposite direction until it gets to the other end then bounces off of that end in the same way and travels back again to the other end. In the absence of an interaction, this cycle continues to repeat. The greater its motion amplitude is, the faster it travels, so it completes its cycle faster, which increases its cycle frequency. Since it completes its cycles faster, it can not travel as far in its direction of travel at the speed of light during each cycle, so its wavelength becomes shorter. Since its fourth dimensional motion can be transferred to another entity during an interaction, the greater fourth-dimensional motion allows for the transfer of a greater amount of motion during an interaction, thus increasing its dynamic mass effect. This is why a visible light photon can knock an electron out of an atom in the photoelectric effect, but a lower frequency microwave photon can't. The fourth-dimensional motion can only be transferred to another entity during an interaction to the degree that it is present in our three-dimensional structure. If an interaction occurs when it is at one end or the other of the fourth dimension, no fourth dimensional motion can be transferred in the interaction and the photon behaves like a field particle and will likely not interact at all. As the motion begins to move into our three-dimensional structure the amount of motion that can be transferred during an interaction increases and reaches a maximum when it is completely in our three-dimensional structure. It then begins to decrease until it reaches zero at the other end of the fourth-dimension. It then begins to increase again except it is in the opposite direction. This cycle continues in the absence of an interaction. This generates the observed positive and negative sinewave pattern.

          A matter particle starts as an energy photon. If an energy photon acquires a great enough fourth dimensional motion to allow for the production of a matter particle, (it usually needs enough to make a matter particle and its antimatter particle) it exceeds the threshold for travel of motion into the fifth dimension. If the photon then comes into contact with the proper angular motion, such as a high-density field sphere near the nucleus of an atom, it can then transfer that excess fourth-dimensional motion to the particle's fifth-dimensional motion. The fifth-dimensional motion begins to transfer back down into the lower three dimensions sequentially and offset by ninety degrees. This means that it starts at the zero-transfer level and increases to a maximum level. When it reaches the maximum level in dimension one, it begins to transfer motion into the second-dimension. Transfer of motion into the first-dimension then begins to decrease and reaches the zero level just as transfer into the second-dimension reaches its maximum level. Transfer into the third-dimension then begins and reaches its maximum level just as transfer into the second-dimension reaches the zero level. At that point transfer begins again into the first-dimension and reaches its maximum level just as the transfer into the third-dimension reaches the zero level. This motion in the lower three dimensions causes the photon to take a curved three-dimensional path that encloses back upon itself to create a continual cyclical three-dimensional motion path, which is what we call a matter particle. The extra motion added to the lower three dimensions would cause the photon to travel faster than the speed of light, so the excess motion is transferred back into the fourth-dimension. If the photon's fourth-dimensional wavelength fits properly into the enclosed path, the proper angular motion component is present to allow transfer of the motion back into the particle's fifth-dimensional motion and the interdimensional motion transfer cycle is complete and the matter particle is stable. If the wavelength does not fit properly, the angular motion component is not present causing the motion to remain in the particle's fourth-dimensional motion and when all of the fifth-dimensional motion has been transferred into the lower three dimensions and then into the fourth-dimension, the curved path ceases to exist and the particle becomes an energy photon again and travels off in some direction at the speed of light. The great angular motion of the photon as it travels in its enclosed three-dimensional path creates the matter particle's rest mass effect. As the energy photon travels in its enclosed path it entrains field particles to travel through it from an input on one side to an output on the other side of the path. This field flow follows the photon as it travels around the path, so the input and output also travel around the path. This causes a spherical field flow around the path from the output to the input that flows at ninety degrees to anything that travels directly toward the path in any direction. The energy photon's fourth-dimensional motion controls the field flow volume through the path to vary from a zero level of flow to a maximum level of flow and then back to a zero-flow level in a continuous cycle. The net effect is that instead of a single field flow sphere around the path, many spheres that vary from a zero field particle density level to a maximum particle density level and then back down to a zero level exist around the matter particle's path. The field flow through the matter particle's path is its internal field. It keeps the energy photons in the matter particles in the nucleus of an atom from interacting directly with each other, which could destroy the matter particles. The concentric field spheres around the matter particle are its external field structure. The innermost high-density sphere contains the matter particles within the nucleus of an atom and the other spheres capture and hold electrons around the atom. When an electron comes close to an atom that does not contain its full complement of electrons, it is attracted to its field. As it passes through the field spheres it begins to be attracted in the opposite direction by the spheres that it has already passed through. At some point the attraction in both directions is equal and the electron becomes centered in a low field density area between two high density spheres. Its path between the two high density field spheres is controlled by the field flow in those two adjacent high-density field spheres. When two matter particles come together with enough kinetic motion to pass through all of the other particle's external field spheres, but not great enough to allow them to escape from their spheres, they become an atom and their external energy spheres join together to form a single external field structure that contains both of them.

          To see how some of the quantum mystery stuff actually works in real life with no need for zero-point energy, vacuum energy, or other mysterious chance happenings lets look at a couple of things. When an energy photon interacts with an electron in an atom and receives enough kinetic motion from the photon to go to a higher field sphere in the atom it receives the photon's fourth-dimensional motion, which causes the photon to become a field particle. Since the electron's kinetic motion around the high- density sphere's field flow path does not match the field motion flow rate around that enclosed path the likelihood of an interaction with a field particle in the sphere is increased enough that an interaction eventually occurs. This interaction causes the transfer of the excess motion that the electron had previously received from the other photon to be transferred to the field particle, which would cause it to travel faster than the speed of light. This excess motion is then transferred to the field particle's fourth-dimensional motion causing it to become an energy photon and travel off in some direction at the speed of light. Only simple motion transfers are required to explain such things. There is no need for anything to spontaneously emerge from nothing or to disappear into nothing.

          Many of the quantum problems come from a lack of understanding of the structure of things at the very small size scale and man's current preconceived beliefs about such things that results in misinterpretations of how things work. The fact that there can be many different outcomes of interactions at this size scale and each outcome has a specific probability of occurrence is not that difficult to understand when you understand that matter particles are not small solid billiard balls, but instead are composed of motions that are moving through various cyclical patterns in space and that much of a matter particle is mostly empty space containing just field particles in various densities, etc. Most interactions occur between angular motions of entities. When two entities interact, each has a specific interactional cross-section in the case of energy photons or interactional volume for matter particles. If you visualize two matter particles' enclosed paths beginning to intersect each other, what will happen is dependent on the positions of their internal photons and the changes in their positions during the interaction. They could completely miss each other, so no interaction would occur, as an example. It also depends on the points that their fourth-dimensional motions are at during the interaction, etc. The end result of the conditions of these variables will determine which of the possible outcomes actually occurs in a given interaction. The reason that there are different probabilities of each outcome's occurrence is that there are specific ranges of motions that will result in a given specific outcome in comparison to the ranges of motions that give the other outcomes. Understanding that the various outcomes and their probabilities of occurrence are explainable in terms of these interactional ranges still does not allow the ability to actually observe the motions in a given interaction, so that you could actually predict which outcome will occur in a given interaction, but it does give information that can allow for such an ability to be developed in the future and that is about all that you can expect an early workable model of a currently unobservable system to accomplish. In the end it all becomes deterministic again when all of the details are completely understood. I have purposely given a generalized structure with many details left out, both to emphasize the most important concepts without making things so complex that they cannot be easily understood and also because it is up to man to work out many of the details for himself. I am not here to give a complete fourth and fifth vector structuring technology transfer to man. In this and in my other papers and comments on this site I have given very broad basic information of how things work and as of now, I still have not seen anyone both able and willing to understand that information and add any new valid understandings to it. I have seen some attempts at making alternative constructs, but so far, they all propose such things as the use of two-dimensional motions like spins, etc. to make matter particles, which would not create a three-dimensionally stable static mass effect in them, etc. It, therefore, does not make any sense for me to increase the complexity of the information given at this time.

          Concerning man's consciousness and freedom of action, etc., it might be of help to consider that man is composed of three parts, which are his body, his soul, and his spirit. The body is composed of matter and a part of the soul is also composed of matter (brain, etc.), but the spirit, which is the part that generates all intents to do something and is, therefore, the initiator of all of a man's actions is not made of matter or energy photons, so man cannot detect the spirit and it operates outside of the matter structure. The part of the soul that interfaces with the spirit is also structured like the spirit. The spirit generates an intent for the body to fulfill some action and sends that intent to the spirit part of the soul, which can understand it. It is then translated into thoughts that the body can understand by the soul and the thoughts are then sent to the body, which carries them out in the flesh of the body to fulfill the intents of the spirit. We are, however, made in such a way that we only have a limited freedom of choice.

          I hope this can be of some help to you in your endeavor to understand how things actually work.

          Sincerely,

          Paul

          Dear Prof Paul

          Hope you are doing well in this COVID 19 era.....

          I want ask a general question....

          Will there be gravitational attraction force between two molecules? Is it the same as van der Waals force? These Interatomic potentials are due to Gravitation, aren't they?

          Be Safe

          =snp