Ulla presented a list that said to end poverty. But I just want to know how you will deal with people who just don't want to work.

No Jason, in my no poverty model you do not have an unconditional right to a base income. Although the base income is used as a benchmark as a mathematical function of half the GNP of a country / or say a US state. You find the base income via a formula taking that 100% of the population play along.

If you chose to be poor you are not poor, or maybe mentally ill. Those are exceptions, so let's first focus on the main rules.

My model of the brain shows that there are four speeds of brain that can in an easy exact scientific way be discerned and validated on a video as proof. Anyone can learn to spot this and thus trust this but only a few actually need to be good at that. These are the minority with clear resounding voices. The 10% fastest thinkers only get the highest grant when they become voluntary civil servants and as long as they behave themselves.

The same goes for the 10% slowest thinkers. Yet they get an even so many quanta less that the fastest thinkers, under the same conditions.

You only behave yourself when you get your diploma and keep in training on the jobs where the block model also shows your talents lie. As long as everything stays within a normal distributed exceptions there will be no need to find out what's wrong and intervene. It is in everybody's interest that say a neurologist comes from the 10% fastest thinkers and you buy the guy via this grant to go study and keep in training the rest of his working life. After 72 you slow down yet keep active.

Half the grant has a claw back in the form of insurances and the like that is democratically in the 50% 1 vote system decided. Say you most buy in on press of your choosing minimum say $ 100,- and maximum $ 400,- of the given grant. You thus buy a free independent press of your choosing. Etc.

Say that 25% of the press is indeed a voluntary civil servant, yet the community believes that we have too many press. Well then they can be asked via volunteers who wants to become teachers instead.

Say a voluntary civil servant works for Trump inc. They will only do so when offered more than the grant via a normal contract. Yet it is easy hire and fire and easy quit as long as you serve your contract. For Trump inc. the cost of labor is then for the greater part gone also as a risk. Now having these civil servants does pose the risk that the community doesn't want Trump inc. supported in this way. Well then if Trump doesn't want interference simply pay enough so the employees stay as non-civil servants. In my model an entrepreneur is a money fisher in the pond of money. With this system there is a guaranteed money stream into the pond. You thus will get more millionaires. I.e. a normal distribution of income and wealth. As of natural human physics / robotics.

Taxing success never hurts. Say Trump has billions of profit. It is in his own egoistic interest that it is pumped back into the pond. Furthermore the trick there is to make a division in private income and capital (to start it off you can of course deal with Donald how much he personally really needs? Does he indeed need a new larger nuclear aircraft carrier with a swimming pool on the flight deck every

year in order to have the biggest? With the problem of his helicopter landing in the whirlpool? Anyway not money drives Trump per se, yet he kicks on esteem, the glorifying bit. Anyway the block model shows that there is no money gene in our DNA. So limiting the personal wealth will be simple for it provides low esteem via naming and shaming. Even Donald will comply.

The other part of the trick is that Donald remains the boss over Trump inc. Yet the taxing is done via over profits of more than say 10% return on investment. Yet independent participation firms without say yet total control of books and goings on can insure that Donald behaves himself with in effect then taxpayers money over which he within the firm has the say. This trick in order not to slaughter the hen with the golden eggs as long as it provides sufficient dividend. Free country.

And it provides Donald with extra financial security. Say his private wealth is at a maximum of $ 24 million per 4 years. And his $ 24 million aircraft carrier sinks. He may if it indeed is an accident and Trump inc. can financially take it, withdraw $ 48 million and pay half of that as taxes and buy a new carrier. Ergo more millionaires, no poor, no war.

It will require the senate to change into a different sort of representation. That can be done via a test and if that succeeds the current senators will have become senators for life. You add on senators via the same system as we choose judges in the Netherlands. It will become an advisory and no longer law making body of 50% male and 50% female. All according to the block model. It will be in constant senate hearing as R&D. All part timers. That can give advice to anyone yet the senate is indivisible. One senator is no senator. It is a consensus model. The great limited power of advice.

Then also the legal system in dealing with evidence and proof in law will change. No more plea bargaining and always the choice of trial by judge or jury. Yet even when the jury is chosen the jury needs to be formed in concordance with the block model as do the team of judges. You always have the right to a well-motivated decision even by a jury instead of a simple guilty / not guilty. And always a double fully renewed proceeding ergo twice a jury. And appeal and retrial possibility when errors have been made in concordance with the formula of Bayes. The later a fundamental Law of Everything. Because jury takes longer and you will notice that there will be hardly any difference in the outcome no one will choose the jury.

Content people don't go to court. Content people don't flee their country. Content people don't make conflicts. At least justly content people don't.

In this model if you actually indeed do what Jesus would advise you to do, and not do what he advises you not to do, then you will have heaven on earth in your life time. Jesus would advise you to study the block model and Bayes in order to attempt to reach a valid falsification of that.

The only way that ca succeed is by doing the proposed tests. For it has already been slightly tested and it works. In the most part it is old school and this already tested by humanity many times over.

Gerhard,

How much of this plan can be implemented without doing away with the Bill of Rights? Or in other words, it just sounds like Marxism dressed up like Miss Piggy, with lipstick.

And when you say "Jesus says to do what I tell you to do", then I'm out.

You could make this easier by doing what they do in America. Give people a Bill of Rights & Freedoms. Give your citizens gun rights so that the people can share in the power and also have protection from both the government and bands of ruffians. Then, let people pursue prosperity in the form of Capitalism.

If you want to actually help people feel content, tell them that they are doing good! Not this "Fake Racism" balderdash! Learn to celebrate people's differences! Don't divide people by race, gender and affluence.

Don't BE GOD! Everyone knows that's fake. Let God be God!

If you want to really help a civilization develop, figure out how gravitational propulsion works. There are already UFO's flying around. When you scoff at those things, the public already knows you're lying to them. How about actually trying to figure out how they do it.

I like president Trump's idea of opportunity zones for the poor and black communities. It also helps if law enforcement is well paid and well trained so that citizens can rely upon their safety and the legal system to protect them from the insanity of terrorist groups like ANTIFA and BLM. Citizens who feel safe, will open businesses and hire employees.

If you want to help the world, let people thrive! Let people use fair elections to decide the best direction for their country, state, country or city. Let the people control their fate!

Jason, you want to be a kind of problem for this group but you don t find a solution, we are here to improve the globality with determinisn and universalism, the best direction that you tell is not sufficient, the elections are not a solution, we know all that we need to improve this globality with concrete sciences and innovative ideas for the well of all. I speak about concrete solutions where all wins, what you tell is not relevant with the elections and the thrive , and the fact to tell let people control their fate is not sufficient, we need to help them with concrete solutions, that will permit to decrease the sufferings, the differences, they shall be reasured. If we let people thrive , that will not be harmonised and that can be the chaos in a near future

No, it is not Marxism for then you do not have the great many differences and millionaires. Millionaires and free enterprises don't mix with Marxism. You should know that. This is fully consistent with the Bill of Rights and all world religions yet only taken as metaphors and as long as all are interpreted in a consistent way with the block model and the formula of Bayes. Inconsistency with Bayes is pseudoscience. And if you don't want to test that then we don't have to discuss anything further. I'm not god nor do I pretend to be. Let us agree to disagree, for it is now clear that you are of extremely strong religious beliefs, that you may have, yet it is not anyway forward in any discussion. You may try to go on further but I only give you the latitude of three buttons to press: the data button of physics. Or the logic button of all mathematics that is drawn from the first button. Or the last actually most important button the all things considered proven best practice button. On the latter the USA has failed miserably financially, moraly for having mass incarceration of neigh 1% of the total population, a 1% being (what was it?) having > 90% or so of the wealth and rising. A health care system that can be ranked for the greater part of the population as a third world country, most people have to work as slaves for slave wages just to get by. I've been to the states in 1976 and was shocked by the poverty even then and it has become worse. You are all on the verge of a new civil war and it doesn't even compute, as I've tested with republicans like you or Democrats. Warning you like Sherman dis before the Civil War is of no avail. These facts in itself disprove your position under the third button. My system has yet to be tested further. You wish to dispute these facts on the USA today? Most other countries in the east outperform the USA that will have to ever more struggle in order to try to keep up. It is a pyramid Ponzi style game you play, yet don't comprehend that it absolutely can't work.

Dear Jason, That's it then no further discussion. We agree to disagree.

I assume that your solution requires that I give up my guns and buy into this "vision" of evolution into universalism or whatever. The problem is that your solutions require that you impose your will upon others. You can't actually win elections with your vision of the future. That's how we know your solutions don't work.

don t worry Gerhard, he is just angry and want to discriminate this project, he is not tolerant simply, I delete this thread and all discussions trying to discriminate our project shall be deleted, he is free but not free to tell lies simply because we think differently than him

we dont want these kind of discussions simply, we are here to discuss about concrete global universal solutions, not ironical things and judgements

You delete my thread because you can't win the argument based on merit.

no I respect the rules of FQXi and this group, you try to just discriminate us by vanity and anger, and you have no concrete solutions, so I delete becuse it is just not relevant, you tell us stupidities, so we delete , you have no merit Jason, you just want to impose your ideologies and you are not tolerant and now it is ahate and a vanity wich govern you simply so all will be deleted because it is simply not relevant for this group

Indeed, Jason or anyone else should behave in an academic discussion. You have academic freedom that provides some leeway for freedom of expression and opinions yet it needs to be vested in facts and logic and brought in a well mannered way. Jason loses out on all counts. And he is proven irredeemable.

No , still false and your anger continues due to your vanity , I have explained that I find sad that we live ion a planet where we have borders, unconsciousness and stupid inventions and I hope these things shall dispappear in the future because we can live without guns, and borders,and I understand that sometimes we must actually utilise them because we must fight the evil, the bad, but you confound all and your anger eats you now,

The only reason I am thwarting your efforts is because you are against freedom. You think that humanity can be controlled in a deterministic way, that is, if you can convince them to give up their guns.

Guns = freedom

You will NEVER have your deterministic solution because people don't act that way unless you use violence to suppress them. Are you THAT kind of a person? I have no idea if you are? So I'm asking.

I repect the rules of FQXi and the group, we must stay on topics, no religions, no politics, no personal attacks, we can critic but rationally and respectfully,

Don t continue Jason, I will delete always if it is off topic and odd, and I stop also to answer now, regards

The UN-link left out. Here is the link for 'no poverty'. A quote:

More than 700 million people, or 10 per cent of the world population, still live in extreme poverty today, struggling to fulfil the most basic needs like health, education, and access to water and sanitation, to name a few. The majority of people living on less than $1.90 a day live in sub-Saharan Africa. Worldwide, the poverty rate in rural areas is 17.2 per cent--more than three times higher than in urban areas.

If you don't want to work it must be seen as an expression of your will? Also 1,90 is not much...

https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/poverty/