On The Flow of Time by George F R Ellis

[deleted]

CAN THOUGHT REVERSE ITSELF and travel electrically to the ear bones--rattle them around and shoot reverse sound back into the speakers mouth and up into his brain?

Here is the real problem --many physicists are just not good at seeing the entire picture. Part of what makes them so good at focusing on a single math problem is precisely what causes deficiencies in other areas of the brain. Its trees---no forest. This is seen in autism but also occurs in people with tremendous ability in one area of the brain. (I find Ellis to be very well rounded and unlike most in the field). To me this is the only explanation besides Bias--usually these are atheists who must adhere to their world view on freewill, creation, etc

Its takes all of 3 seconds to dismiss the static block universe. You dont take one or 2 pieces of data and equations and favor them over the Real World--over blatantly obvious truth--the flow of our consciousness using freewill, the multitude of evidence that the universe makes casual sense from big bang to now and science would be impossible if without time. You must be smart enough and well rounded enough to see there is a mistake in how you're interpreting your equations. But this is not even about doing that really--as a static block universe is ludicrous The paradox should be investigating how people can come to believe, using no freewill, that they are not even real.

[deleted]

So you're denying things Happen? How did you write your objection?

You say, "What is true, is true at all scales."

Really...is that transcribed on the Atom? Is that where you received that ultimate truth?

Trusting in pen and paper over what is blatantly clear? The world could never come into being in a block universe and a mother crying over her dead child is just a random splatting of paint on the wall that only looks like a mother reacting--when in fact she is just the separated pixels of illusory order?

Just the fact that a Block theorist would look back in TIME for the casual progression of our Universe, which is completely moot in Block, and then touting an opinion with No freewill is a clear demonstration of the pathological reasoning of the current crop of confused speculators.

When a person holds such contradictory ideas and sees no avenue for discussion for alternative positions--what we have here is Cognitive dissonance times the speed of light--which in fact has no speed in the B theory. Time is an illusion-- so lets look back in time to see how the universe developed? What? The illusion is that these people are great *Thinkers and you are now following them. They're number crunchers. My calculator has only data..not ultimate truth. All events are eternal in Block and nothing has ever happened--so why science is looking for what DID happen when nothing has happened is not only ludicrous--its circus clown crazy.

So when saying Ellis doesnt understand "anything at all"---you are really saying you this is not a static block universe because there is simply no way for you to even be a person under such conditions.

Steve Agnew

When I go back and read these old essays, I see the bits and pieces of truth lying all around like time's hand full of sand, but somehow the whole truth of the sand slips through the fingers of that hand of time.

No mention of McTaggart's A, dynamic, and B, static, times here for some reason...instead, there is an evolving block time. All of these ideas of time have the basic pieces correct in that time is both a ticking frequency like a clock of B time with discrete moments and time is also a decay of that frequency as a clock of A time that runs down in a continuum of moments. These are the two dimensions of time and represent the extremes of atomic time, which shows reversibility, as well as universe decay time, which points the arrow of time.

A two dimensional time takes care of Poincare's reversibility and also takes care of entropy. I don't know why this is so hard to see.

« Previous Page