Summary:

The strand conjecture starts with deducing Dirac's equation from Dirac's trick for tangles. Then, tangle classification yields the particle spectrum. The Reidemeister moves yield the particle interactions. Working out the details gives particle physics - and the standard model Lagrangisn - with no additions, no modifications, and no omissions.

Testable predictions:

There is no E8 nor any other grand unified gauge group. There is no supersymmetry. There are no additional dimensions. There is no non-commutative space. There are no new elementary particles. There are no new energy scales. There is no effect and no physics beyond the standard model.

Status:

So far, full agreement with experiment. All results are deduced from a single fundamental principle.

    Hi Mr Schiller, we cannot affrim assumptions , it is important. The E8 even if I don t agree about the fields and strings or points like origin is a wonderful mathematical tool utilised by many scientists, the non commutativity of Connes is an important work permitting to better understand our standard model.

    Please develop a little bit your general ideas, what is for you a particle and its philosophical origin ? I will see clearer about your ideas.

    If I can also, what are for you the unknowns , the quantum gravitation, the hard problem of consciousness, the dark matter, the dark energy, the gluons problem mainly ? how do you consider these things ?

    I have look at your website , and I respect your general researchs, you search these general answers and it is the most important. The general philosophy for me is essential, that is why I d like to have your points of vue about these foundamental objects and the origin of the universe. We must recognise that we have many limitations of scales and in knowledges about the truths of our topologies, geometries, fields, matters. We just analyse at this moment the emergent effects, but the main cause are unknown still unfortunally.

    On predictions: In the tangle model, all predictions on the lack of physics beyond the standard model are *deduced* from one single fundamental principle about strands fluctuating at the Planck scale. The predictions are *not* assumptions. Only the fundamental principle is an assumption. The fundamental principle is general and abstract. And of course, exploring all other ideas on the origin of the standard model remains an important task.

    On the particle model: particles are made of tangles that fluctuate. Strands are not observable, but their crossing switches are. For this reason particles are effectively point-like (more precisely, of Planck scale size). The tangle model for particles implies the full standard model. All physical observables, all particles and all fields are emergent from strands. As mentioned, the details are described in paper at the free link rdcu.be/cdwSI provided by SpringerNature. The paper should help understanding of the general ideas and of the the way that quantum theory, quantum field theory and the Lagrangian of the standard model arise. The tangle model also proposes a model for the gluons, described in the paper.

    On tests: The strand conjecture proposes many ways to falsify it. There is a specific page collecting all experimental tests and predictions (formulated as bets): www.motionmountain.net/bet.

    On the general ideas: A simple introduction is in the self-contained talk slides that can be read by themselves, found at the top of www.motionmountain.net/research.

    On gravitation: The other questions asked (except the one on consciousness) are addressed on the research page. For example, the lack of particles beyond the standard model restricts the options on dark matter. The research page also proposes a way that gravity, general relativity and a (limited) number of quantum gravity effects results from strands. Testable predictions on these topics are also deduced and listed.

      I repeat , all this a respectable general work, but there are many assumptions, the planck and points particles in fluctuations, an assumption, the GR like the only one piece of puzzle, an assumption.

      The fluctuations me I want well, but from what and what origin philosophical ?

      You tell the predications rae not assumptions, yes they are because you utilise assumptions in your predictions like basis, so the predictions are assumptions.

      Me I want well, but you cannot affirm

      4 days later

      The paper about the testing of the strand conjecture in the domain of particle physics mentioned above is the follow up of the paper that presented the strand conjecture in the first place:

      C. Schiller, A conjecture on deducing general relativity and the standard model with its fundamental constants from rational tangles of strands, Physics of Particles and Nuclei 50 (2019) 259-299. dx.doi.org/10.1134/S1063779619030055. The paper can be read for free online at rdcu.be/cdCK7, a link provided by SpringerNature.

      This paper deduces quantum theory, quantum field theory and gravitation from Dirac's trick - including the Hilbert Lagrangian and the standard model Lagrangian. In particular, the paper argues that both the standard model and general relativity can be derived from a single fundamental principle involving strands. It follows that there should be no new physics in both fields - except for the calculation of the fundamental constants.

        Hi , I have asked you simple general questions, why are you sure that the 1D points like foundamental objects exist ? secondly why do you consider just the GR like the only one piece of puzzle and the fluctuations to explain all our forces ? and thirdly you see well that the quantum gravitation is nor renormalised nor quantified in this reasoning. It is because your foundamental objects are not the truth, and that the GR and the photons only cannot answer. And Dirac works are not the problem nor the constants. Furthermore the BHs are not really knowns, we just know the even horizons at their surfaces and due to hawking works, but we don t know really what they are . And the 1D at this planck scale is just an assumption. Are you conscious of this ? the general philosophy and the foundamental objects are just assumptions ? If you want a relevant conjecture , try with the poincare conjecture to create the conjecture between the strings Mtheory superstrings Branes and the 3D spheres like foundamental objects, there it will be very relevant if you can prove it, you can utilise the symplectomorphisms preserving the volumes and the ricci flow for the deformations for example and play with the geometrical algebras of Lie like the E8 exceptional group. You can also utilise the works of Perelman proving this conjecture. Regards

        What I try to explain is that our standard model is probably emergant due to a deeper logic and this logic is not from the points oscillating or fluctuations of this luminiferous spacetime, the einstein fields equations of our photonic spacetime giving this general relativity and explaining at high velocities the gravitation like a curvature of the spacetime when we observe it is of course real, what I try to explain is that this GR and the photons like prinmordial essence is not probably the answer. Even with the Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Kibble theory and tools mathenmatical trying to reach this quantum gravitation. The main problem for me is that the thinkers consider the fields like origin of our reality , and with points or strings at this planck scales and oscillations, fluctuations, vibrations they explain the geometries , topologies from this 1D and after extrapolate the extradimensions like in the strings with 10, 11, 26D , but in fact all this are assumptions, if our universe is a pure 3D ns that the foundamental objects are 3D spheres and that the philosophical origin of this universe is made of particles, so the fields are just emergent and the points and strings don t really exist like main cause.

        I beleive that many thinkers have not really understood the GR and the photons, Einstein also thought what I tell, he said himself that the photons are just a part of the problem, he has just permitted to observe better the spacetime. The electromagnetism and the forces of our standard model are probably due to particles encoded , they don t come from external cosmic fields , they emerge due to photons and particles of DM probaböly encoded in a kind of space vacuum where the main codes are , the photons are just a fuel.

        In fact the standard model that we know and the QM and QFT emerge due to photons encoded and the forces increase due to number of photons , so the densities become relevant of 3D spheres, because the number of series primoridal finite don t change and the volumes also, just the densities , that is why the nuclear forces are just due to fact that there is more photons encoded than for the electromagnetism, they are encoded in the space vacuum wich is also a finite serie of 3D spheres .

        13 days later

        The strand conjecture, in the papers mentioned above, deduces, step by step, a number of testable statements that are usually thought to be impossible.

        (1) The standard model can be deduced from a simple principle - based on strands.

        (2) General relativity can be deduced from a simple principle - based on strands.

        (3) The standard model and general relativity do not contradict each other.

        (4) There is no physics beyond the standard model and beyond general relativity.

        (5) The lack of new effects is testable in several hundred specific experiments.

        (6) There is no unknown dark matter particle.

        (7) The fundamental constants can be calculated.

        (8) There is no unanswered question in fundamental physics.

          I am sorry but you affirm things like facts , I repeat first of all the generaql relativity is not the only one pience of puzzle, secondly the points at this planck scale connected with the GR in 1D is an assumption, thirdly the daek matter is necessary to balance probably with the cold at all scales and explain also the evolution, and finally we have many unknowns to discover still , so we have many questions to answer still,

          3 months later

          There is a way to summarize the paper below in a single statement:

          The Dirac trick at the Planck scale allows to deduce all of particle physics.

          From this simple foundation it is possible to deduce the full Lagrangian of the standard model, the quark model, the gauge symmetries, the particle spectrum etc. The foundation also allows to deduce many predictions that can be tested in the coming years.

          All experimental predictions are listed on www.motionmountain.net/bet .

          C. Schiller, Testing a conjecture on the origin of the standard model, European Physical Journal Plus 136 (2021) 79. doi.org/10.1140/epjp/s13360-020-01046-8. Read for free at rdcu.be/cdwSI.

            Like I said even if you don t want to discuss, probably due to fact that we are all persuaded inside the sciences community ,it is that you affirm too much assumptions like facts. You tell many things wich are not proved and accepted by the sciences community. You tell

            (1) The standard model can be deduced from a simple principle - based on strands.

            (2) General relativity can be deduced from a simple principle - based on strands.

            (3) The standard model and general relativity do not contradict each other.

            (4) There is no physics beyond the standard model and beyond general relativity.

            (5) The lack of new effects is testable in several hundred specific experiments.

            (6) There is no unknown dark matter particle.

            (7) The fundamental constants can be calculated.

            (8) There is no unanswered question in fundamental physics.

            Are you conscious that all what you tell is just affirmations in your head. The standard model and the General relativity have many problems when we consider them together. That proves probably that the GR is not the cause of the AMsimply, that is why even we cannot renormalise this quantum gravitation, because simply like I said the photons and the GR like primridial essence and the points of geometrodynamics or strings in this photonic spacetime and the fields are not probably the cause of bosonic fields.

            In telling there is no unanswered question in foundamental physics, it is total non sense in fact. Are you conscious that we know so few geberally speaking and that it is not you who shall change this reality.

            You tell also the GR and the SM can be deduced from a simple principle , lol yes but you don t know it and it lacks many things to superimpose. In fact you consider like many a big bang, after photons , after athe GR and after points and hop you conclude all is explained from this and give our reality, what is the cause of these oscillating vibrating points in the GR giving the SM? develop philosophically speaking also.

            You tell also there is no physics beyond the SM and the GR , wowww ? you speak to god you lol Develop philosophically, ontologically, physically, mathematically and prove the assumptions.

            ps, you know when we share ideas on a platform of sciences, you must accept the critics and you must defend your ideas in developping. If you cannot defend your ideas , so it is probably that you are not sure of your own ideas I suppose. The problem for me like I said is the affirmation of too much assumptions . If you utilised for example the geometrical algebras of Lie, hopf, Clifford and that you try to develop and unify the QM, the QFT, the SM, the GR , there it could be interesting with new ideas and maths, but you don t do it, you just affirm .I just tell this for you me to be taken seriously. I am obliged to make the same you know, I never affirm my assumptions and I work for the publications with mathematical tools and I try to be rigourous about my theory and my assumptions. It is like this that the theoretical sciences community is you know.

            Steve,

            unfortunately, I have difficulties understanding your English. Feel free to write me in French, if you prefer. I can answer in French. I do not understand much of what you write in English. You can find my email at www.motionmountain.net .

            The statement "The Dirac trick at the Planck scale allows to deduce all of particle physics" is explained and shown in the cited paper, in detail. In fact, the statement is the summary of that paper. I can only encourage you to read the paper. This summary statement also contains *all* assumptions: "Dirac trick at the Planck scale". This is short, complete and clear. Surely it not "too much assumptions", as you write.

            The questions about fundamental particle physics for which the answers are not known have been listed by many authors. The full list takes one single page. The questions on that single page ask, among others, about the origin of the gauge groups, of the particle spectrum, of the masses and coupling constants, the nature of dark matter, or of the three spatial dimensions. It just happens that the strand conjecture seems to answer all those questions.

            The paper makes many experimental predictions, over a hundred, that follow from the Dirac trick at the Planck scale. Testable predictions are required from any proposed conjecture, in order to check it. Future will show whether the proposed conjecture is right. So far, all predictions agree with experiment. If the predictions are falsified, the conjecture is wrong. Feel free to tell everybody which statement in that paper is in contrast with experiments. That is the reason it was published: in this way people can check the predictions and falsify the conjecture. But in your rants, there is not a single falsification. You just list your personal beliefs.

            Feel free to falsify the conjecture: just find an effect beyond the standard model, or find an error in the paper. Many more ways to show that the predictions or ideas are wrong are listed in the paper itself, and on www.motionmountain.net/bet .

            The results about general relativity are found in an earlier paper: C. Schiller, A conjecture on deducing general relativity and the standard model with its fundamental constants from rational tangles of strands, Physics of Particles and Nuclei 50 (2019) 259-299, dx.doi.org/10.1134/S1063779619030055.

            And I agree with you that many predictions seem incredible and even absurd, given the tiny assumptions.

            Hello Mr Schiller, yes indeed I am french speaking, and my english is not perfect I know, I make several errors of grammar. Sorry for this but it is understandable I believe, I will write you in french on your mail. Here on FQXi, it is an english platform, so it is always in english bt respect for the readers and FQXi, so I cannot write in french here . I confound the languages like I speak french, dutch,I am from belgium, I have learnt also spanish, latin,and here I am in finland and learn swedish lol, so the confusions exist .

            Hey,

            It is a bit rude to now say you don't understand, and no point what you don't understand... don't you think?

            I don't know strand conjecture, but if it is just a conjecture, is it not odd to base a 'proof' on that? Obviously it does not work so well when you arrive at odd conclusions? I read https://www.motionmountain.net/research.html to get some ideas.... Diracs trick I would need a link to also.

            The problem with SM is that it has no G, gravitation or GR. When you use c^4/g^4 you arrive at tachyons? Also problems with the G=C=hbar etc?

            When you say Planck scale has no problems due to this dimensional analysis it is maybe not true, also to put SR etc there as a GUT scenariom, still say there are no GUT gauges.... it is confusing.

            Regards, Ulla Mattfolk.

            You say: The Planck scale is defined as that scale at which general relativity, special relativity and quantum theory have to be taken into account, all three, together.

            The Planck energy, Planck momentum, Planck length and Planck time are clearly defined quantities.

            The statement "we cannot affirm that the Planck scale really exists" therefore is not correct.

            But it is an assumption still, an odd such... QM, SR and Newton can be seen as the similar constructs, but GR is clearly otherwise. What are your op.about QM = GR of Susskind and others?

            Ulla,cont.

            Sorry but I cannot edit here? I have a typo - c*4/4G it should be, but it makes it even worse?