Reconstructing Physics

Steve Dufourny

Hi Olivier, like you know I have read your works and I respect like I said your attempts. Philosophically we need indeed main primary informations and we must define them .We have invented the binary codes and the informations for the computing and with the boolean algebras and algorythms we evolve for this computing. If now we consider how the informations act to create this universe, it becomes complex , but we need informations for the symmetries breakings and the diversity of matters and its evolution , we must have changes in fact.

If we consider now the actual reasonings with the general relativity and photons massless carrying the informations like if we had strings for example inside these photons at this planck scale and that this 1D comsic field of the GR carries informations, so they are inside photons massles , so they cannot have a mas. In my model it is different I consider that the main informations are in this spacxe vacuum massless of the DE , in both cases they have no mass these informations . The mass seems to need a cause , we have a missing mass to explain for our standard model even if the higgs have explained a part with the W and Z bosons and the higgs mechanisms, I beleive that the scalar fields massless and massive of the DE and the DM are these higgs mechanism and permit to give a mass, the same kind of reasoning can be considered for the missing mass and with axions from the DM encoded and with the scalar massless fields of this DE we can explain thje missing mass with these gluons and quarks. That is why the mass baryonic is mainly due to this non baryonic mass in fac and the informations them seem massless. See that if the main informations are massless in this DE and is antigravitation, that permits to balance the gravitational systems of photons and CDM encoded in this vacuum. It is the meaning of my intutitive equation about the mass energy equivalence. We need cause, if there are informations primary they seem to be in this space vacuum of this DE and it seems massless. We need to go farer than this GR and SR at my opinion. That is why the aim seems to unify the lambda CDM model with the3 QM instead to unify the GR and the QM. In all cases that permits to consider a deeper logic and that explains many things . If the universe is mainly made of partiles in this fluidity of spacetimes due to specific spherical volumes and specific series for the photons, the CDM and the DE , the motions rotations oscillations of these 3D spheres in this fluidity become interesting. If the 3 systems merge together to create the ordinary matter under the main codes of this vacuum of the DE antigravitational , that becomes relevant considering the pure motions rotations oscillations of these spheres if the volumes are preserved and the number of series also. That implies a new theory of informations in fact considering this DE possessing the main informations. They seem to have no mass simply, the mass is baryonic or not baryonic, the DM seems quanta of mass and the photons quanta of heat and electromagnetism , the universe seems simple, a kind of fifth force appears also and is antigravitational balancing the whole and seems to be not constant , the relevance is there considering the changes and broken symmetries. that is why the informations of this DE are more than fascinating epistemologically, philosophically, physically speaking.

Steve Dufourny

this dynamical energetical fluid of this DE seems the key for the main informations.....and it is like a fifth force and probably permit the encoding of photons and the CDM for our standard model , it is like an energy of negative pressure permitting to balance the gravitational 2 other systems. It is not that the works of einstein about the GR is not correlct but not complete and that we must simply relativate our observations and foundamentals causing the ordinary matter. It is like I said that newton and einstein were right in their referentials but generally and universally we need to complete this gravitation with this negative pressure of this dynamical energetical antigravitational fluid.

Deleted_USER

""Hi Olivier, like you know I have read your works and I respect like I said your attempts. Philosophically we need indeed main primary informations and we must define them"

in the Superfluid vacuum theory (SVT), sometimes known as the BEC vacuum theory, is an approach in theoretical physics and quantum mechanics where the fundamental physical vacuum (non-removable background) is viewed as superfluid or as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC). a new model for the aether according to which it is a superfluid state of fermion and anti-fermion pairs, describable by a macroscopic wave function. With small fluctuations of superfluid background obey the Lorentz symmetry, even if the superfluid itself is non-relativistic.

The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....and Mass

this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner-Ochsenfeld effect)

Steve Dufourny

Hi Olivier, it is this vacuum the key for these informations I believe. Now the problem is philosophical also considering our choices for these main informations from the universe with a kind of mathematical accident or from a kind of god, an infinite eternal consciousness. After our choices considering this vacuum and the main informations depend of our philosophy also, I have chosen to consider the main informations in this vacuum of the DE , scalar massless fields , others have chosen the vacuum of this GR and after they consider points or strings connected with this vacuum and its main fields and informations. The relevance I believe humbly with this dark energy possessing the main codes is that it can solves many problems in being a fifth force for our standard model and the fact to be antigravitational permits to balance the gravitational photonic and cold dark matter systems .

All this is not easy to affrim because we have philosophical and physical limitations but this DE like a fluid dynamical and energetical of pure informations massless antigravitational is relevant for me.

It is mainly how we consider the informations, the energy , the mass in fact generally and we have the free will to think like we want of course, I believe strongly that this GR alone and the SR have problems and that this gravitation needs to be completed , that is why I have created this intuitive equation about the mass energy equivalence , and Y in my equation considering this DE can be correlated with the theories of informations.

Your attemps is respectable because you try to unify the mass, the energy, the informations , me too in my model, it is just that we see differently the philosophy of origin.In all cases we need to better understanmd all this and the main informations indeed seems a key, regards

Steve Dufourny

That said Olivier the information black hole paradox has been an interesting work. The aim was to link the general relativity and the quantum mechanic mainly. The works of Hwking and Bekenstein have been interesting about the fact that we have these radiations. The BHs have an electric charge, a mass, an angular momentum, and in the process of evaporation they have considered these informations.

So I see your idea for the link betweem quantum gravitation, information and mass and energy. We arrive at the real problem about the gravitation. If you consider the lost of informations or the collapses of the waves functions, it is there that we arrive at these philosophical questions about the origin of the universe and if you consider only the GR like cause of this reality, we have problems not renormalisable and unknowns not explained because it is mainly how we consider this origin and main causes of this QM and so how we consider the informations and the gravitation.

If you consider these radiations and the evaporation and the planck scale with the informations, so we arrive at how is stored and encoded an information but we don t know really and like I said the problem is philosophical about what is a primary information and its origin. Wwe dont even know if the siingularitiesw exist and many confusions appear in these reasonings about the storing of these informations and the link with this time even considering the past and future.

That is why the problem is philosophical and how we interpret this GR and the philosophy of origin, if you take the time evolution and the GR , so you intepretat the causalities and localities in function of the philosophy chosen, and that implies specific chosen referentials and so personal intepretations of this gravitation and these informations.If you extend the co ncepts of Gibbs and von neuman entropy , there still it is a ^philosophical choice about the zero entropy and how you consider the evaporation of the BHs and so the informations.

That implies that the informations paradox is just a paradox if you consider the actual limited reasonings of this GR and if you consider only the gravitation of this GR without thinking beyond the box of this GR.It is mainly how you approach the gravitation and the informations and how you consider even this quantum gravitation which is for me a pure newtonian mechanic between massive particles of this standard model and not from this GR with gravitons being the quanta of gravitational waves.

If the informations are not in this reasoning and are not lost in the reasonings of these evaporations of BHs, so the degree of freedom and the violations of the energy momentum conservations and localities are not the key .

The massless and massive particles so become inmportant philosophically about how we approcach the informations and the philosophy of origin of the universe, if you consider the gravitons and the photons massless for example and that you consider the loss of informations in function of energies, it is just a personal choice about this said philosophy of origin of informations, and the bekenstien bound will not change the fact that we have probably deeper parameters to add to this puzzle about the mass, the energy and the informations primary .

Deleted_USER

Hey @steve

""Hi Olivier, it is this vacuum the key for these informations I believe. ""

"Essentially, entanglement holds space together. It's the glue that makes the different pieces of space hook up with one another" John Preskill

""Quantum entanglement as geometric glue,the geometry entanglement relationship have come from condensed-matter physics and quantum information theory: fields in which entanglement already plays a central part. "" is the essence of Van Raamsdonk's paper

We are on opposite side so !!!

but on that:"In all cases we need to better understanmd all this and the main informations indeed seems a key, regards" we are agree

""Your attemps is respectable because you try to unify the mass, the energy, the informations""

thx, indeed,the black holes entropic Information formula can calculate the entangled Hawking radiation down to the quantum system, describing black hole independently of the area law of the entropy of Bekenstein-Hawking. The black holes entropic information formula is equal to the universal bound originally found by Jacob Bekenstein. Which is equal by Casini's work to the difference between the expectation value of the modular Hamiltonian in the excited state and the vacuum state, itself equal to the Von Neumann entropy. The ultraviolet divergences can be avoided by taking differences between quantities computed in an excited state and the same quantities computed in the vacuum state; this must be put in relation to Ryu and Takayanagi conjecture, a general formula for the fine-grained entropy of quantum systems coupled to gravity

The Entangled Informational Universe.

""DE like a fluid dynamical and energetical of pure informations massless antigravitational is relevant for me.""

Landauer's principle formulated in 1961 states that logical irreversibility implies physical irreversibility and demonstrated that information is physical. Here we formulate a new principle of mass-energy-information equivalence proposing that a bit of information is not just physical, as already demonstrated, but it has a finite and quantifiable mass while it stores information.

IS NOT for me.....

Steve Dufourny

The deep unknowns , the philosophy of origin, the energy, the mass, the informations must be considered in a model at my hum ble opinion, if not it is not really innovative and it is limited. Yours works is from Vopson , and after you have taken the works of Hawking, Bekenstein von neuman mainly and you conclude an equation in taking their works in changing small things, it seems not sufficient generally . Like I said you could develop your model in philosophy and in correlating with the foundamental works of the GR and QFT and QM, for example the minkowski spacetime, the yang mills theory ....and the geometrical algebras also of lie and clifford in trying to consider unifications of the GR and QM if it is your choice to consider only the photons and this GR like primary essence.You must develop in fact . The informations are dynamical indeed and physical and need a cause but withjout a definition of these informations , a cause philosophical and dynamical,that does not act . The problem is there you don t develop the origin philosophical and physical of these informations, I have given you an idea, god or mathematical accident , you need to have a cause, if the dark photon and photons are considered like the binary codes , it could be interesting inj playing twith ntheir fields and oscillations and the mass energy equivalence of einstein but you don t want to develop apparently, we don t know what is your inmformations philosophically and physically, I don t know me, try to correlate with the fields and the waves and the extradiemnsions maybe but link with the QFT, the GR, the philosophy ......make general links for these informations, there it is not sufficient generally

Deleted_USER

hey @steve

""Yours works is from Vopson , and after you have taken the works of Hawking, Bekenstein von neuman mainly and you conclude an equation ""

Indeed, in Entropic inforamation theory, We start from the hidden thermodynamic of Louis De Broglie, where we replace the mass by the mass of bit of information [4]. After we used this mass of bit of information at the Hawking temperature in the framework of the black hole thermodynamics and in the perspective of the Hawking radiation, the process of evaporation of the black hole, we will compare some black hole data from all over the black holes scale to confirm that the black holes entropic information formula equal to the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy, but, also equal to the Bekenstein bound. Results are put in relation to the work of Casini from 2008 about Bekenstein and Von Neumann entropy, about the fine-grained entropy and the coarse grained entropy. After this we will put in relation the black holes entropic information to the Ryu-Takayanagi formula which is a general formula for the fine-grained entropy of gravity-coupled quantum systems.

""Like I said you could develop your model in philosophy and in correlating with the foundamental works of the GR and QFT and QM, for example the minkowski spacetime""

The new entropic information approach take in consideration the Quantum field theory in curved spacetime (QFTCS)

The black holes entropic Information formula can calculate the entangled Hawking radiation down to the quantum system, describing black hole independently of the area law of the entropy of Bekenstein-Hawking. The black holes entropic information formula is equal to the universal bound originally found by Jacob Bekenstein. Which is equal by Casini's work to the difference between the expectation value of the modular Hamiltonian in the excited state and the vacuum state, itself equal to the Von Neumann entropy. The ultraviolet divergences can be avoided by taking differences between quantities computed in an excited state and the same quantities computed in the vacuum state; this must be put in relation to Ryu and Takayanagi conjecture, a general formula for the fine-grained entropy of quantum systems coupled to gravity

The Entangled Informational Universe

Steve Dufourny

I have understood your approach, it is not necessary to repeat, tell us more , be frank, what codes these informations, do you believe in god or do you consider a mathematicaql accident , and for the higgs fields also, explain us how these informations take a mass, is it a field form this GR and how it acts ....

Steve Dufourny

It is important to define how they have a mass these informations and what are the pure essence physically speaking, without this, you have no mechanism . What are also the foundamental objects, if they are not spheres 3D, so they are points or strings, so develop and tell us more generally , don t turn around the pot to evitate my questions, aswer please philosophically and about the foundamental objets, the origin of these informations and the origin of their mass and after how they permit the QFT and QM with the properties, spin, mass,charges.....

Deleted_USER

""explain us how these informations take a mass""

The Meissner effect is one of the defining properties of superconductivity and its discovery established that the appearance of superconductivity is a phase transition.

Magnetic field lines are excluded from a superconductor when it is below its critical temperature.

This exclusion of the magnetic field is a manifestation of the superdiamagnetism that appeared during the phase transition from the conductor to the superconductor, for example by lowering the temperature below the critical temperature.

Meissner's superconductivity effect serves as an important paradigm for the mechanism for generating mass M

λ (M)= h/Mc

In fact, this analogy is an abelian example of the Higgs mechanism, which generates the electroweak masses W ± and Z to gauge particles in high energy physics.

Steve Dufourny

this we know you repeat things known, you have not answered about the foundamental objects and how the informations appear philosophically, from what we exist, do you consider god or a mathe3matical accident and why and do you consider that before this hypothetical BB it was an infinite heat for example and why, and after if it is this, how the photons if you consider only this GT=R have been coded , I need concrete philosophical developments, not things repeted fronm wickipedia, think by yourself, tell us , be frank about the philosophy of origin, for the nhiggs we need to know more about these mechanisms , fruthermore the missing mass is not explained with the higgs alone, so I repeat what are this general philosophy, be frank, what creates these informations

Steve Dufourny

The Meissner is just about phases in magnetic fields at critical temperatures giving a supraconductivity, nothing os special , it is just an effect at precises temperature and precise fields , it is just a transition nof phases, nothing of odd

Deleted_USER

""The Meissner is just about phases in magnetic fields at critical temperatures giving a supraconductivity, nothing os special , it is just an effect at precises temperature and precise fields , it is just a transition nof phases, nothing of odd ""

see better pls....

In fact, this analogy is an abelian example of the Higgs mechanism, which generates the electroweak masses W ± and Z to gauge particles in high energy physics.

The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....Mass this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner-Ochsenfeld effect)

Steve Dufourny

It is like a perfect conductivity, and you copy simply whay you see on internet , I need concrete answers about the philosophy of origin , you have nnot answered , nor about the foundamental objects and the nature of these informations

Deleted_USER

"" you have nnot answered , nor about the foundamental objects and the nature of these informations""

se again pls,.....

information is a quantum state change is due the modification of one degree of freedom from the considered quantum system""

Steve Dufourny

furthermore the higgs mechanism needs to be better understood and these scalar fields massless and massive are for me essential and the supraconductivity abd the mass energy equivalence of einstein are not sufficient to explain the mass , the problem is really philosophical. The higgs bosons found have analogies withy the higgs mechanism and they have concluded in giving a nobel prize, but it was for me given too quickly, the higgs mechanism needs to have deeper logics and these massive scalar fields of this DM permit to solve , the same kind of reasoning can be made with the =axions for the missing mass of our standard model , the gluons are the key and it is not due to specific temperature and magnetic fields that this mass appear but from a non baryonic mass cause , it seems logic , it is there that my equation becomes relevant in considering these scalar massless fields of the DE and massive scalar fields of the DM conpleting the standsrd model and improving our undersatanding of the mass energy equivalence.

Steve Dufourny

you have not answered about the origin of the universe, tell me what we had before this hypothetical BB, what creates these informations and how, god or mathematical accident, strings and binary codes in the GR, but explain

Steve Dufourny

You see I have understood your idea with the temperature, the fields magnetic and the mechanism of mass energy equivalence correlated with the BHs , it is not complicated to encircle how you give a mass to these informations with the BHs and the temperatures critical and the supraconductivity , in fact you consider simply a transformations of the energy with specific gravitational fields and electromagnetic fields under specific relativistic gravitational topologies, and so you create the informations with the BHs, and after you conclude the mass energy information equivalence like a kind of higgs mechanism with the BHs to produce these informations, but all this is a n assumption, but well tries and thought generally

Steve Dufourny

but it lacks causes of these informations, where come form these fields electromagnetic and gravitational in this GR creating the mass of these informations, answer about a kind of god an infinite heat or a kind of infinite eternal consciousness or a mathematical accident from fractalised photons from an infinite heat and after an accident mathematical, but please explain the cause

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