Possible Simultaneous Times by Florina Manuela Pirvulescu

Hello Ms. Pirvulescu,

ah, someone has finally brought up Death. yes. it is very challenging to determine the nature of time entirely within time - like a fish trying to discover water. there is not the contrast necessary for perception to occur, only a vague sense that there's something. until one makes the leap at Death.

"Life beckons me. It whispers, it calls me and in the end it screams at me. The scream of crisis or disease is often what will bring me to the rediscovery of who i really am, for it is difficult to abstract suffering."

-Tony Parsons, 'The Open Secret'

suspecting that some here who have abstractly argued that time does not exist eventually have a 'religious conversion experience' awaiting them at some point in their future.

thanks for your paper,

matt kolasinski

That's a beautiful quote, Matt. I'm too guilty of the opinion that the passage of time is an illusion. ah, but time is an illusion only in the material world. the immaterial world - that's where time is everything. it is the backbone of all things information. alas, the physics of today does not concern much with information and its theory.

As Time is still the 'a priori' of parallel dimensions in a Riemannian or Euclidian system, one cannot say anything more about Time by this way.

Take a system made with a circle for Time and a dot 'P' on this circle for Present Time and simultaneity is not possible. But add a second circle that cross the first one and you have simultaneity. This is spheric Algebra (not Geometry) of Riemann for example, useful for geolocalization but useless in the question of the nature of Time.

Thank you for your observations,F. Le Rouge, but I try to develop a theory which operates with subtle concepts which can be found in the obscure world of the unconscious, where time can acquire other values than the ones we physically know. And, anyway I do not like to give straight answers because we cannot say that we know something for certain about anything. That is why it is called „possible" simultaneous times and well....physics was wrong so many times.

hello matt,

I am glad that someone understands my ideas , with no added explanation! Yes, this is exactly what it is about, the possibility of studying time trying to have access to eternity by means of the unconcious. Thank you for your comment and the joy you made me of seeing that my writing can reach to someone!

Dear Prof. Pirvulescu,

It happens to children to dream a magical realm, beyond space and time, and to try to come back bringing something in this world. They wake up holding the fist tight, and opening it slowly, with excitement, only to find nothing in. Some of them conclude that there is no dream world. Yet, other children begin a lifetime pursuit of a way to find again that mythical world, and to bring the gem in the fist. Because that gem is what survives our bodies. A wise thought, a song, an equation, or simply a smile:)

Thank you for your lovely essay!

All the best wishes,

Cristi Stoica

Dear Cristi Stoica,

I see you know what it means to access the world of myths, since you speak about the soul of a child, because you certainly referred to this when you said "a child". And this does not have to be understood as stupid naivety, but as open naivety, that is openness towards the world and everything it offers. Yes, this is what it is about.

Thank you , too for the good thoughts and I wish you good luck in everything you do, because I am sure you do everything with "openness". Congratulations to you too on your essay which is very well structured,argumented and more than this innovative!

This makes me think of a way of entering the dimensions of time by dreaming and continuing dreams. It happened that I continued a dream I had a few nights before and I can only explain this through a new dimension which I entered.

Lovely essay!

Thank you!

Dear Davina,

I am glad that my essay succeeded in awakening your consciousnes so that you realize some connections that normally, following the course of a life which nowadays seems automatic, you couldn't have made. Once again it is proved that we have all the knowledge within ourselves and that we only need an impulse to recognize them, to reveal them and to give them a perceivable form.

Keep on dreaming! :)

Very interesting essay. Your essay proved to be a great opportunity to learn more about increase awareness's philosophy.

Quote: "It is probably the fault of philosophy which asks too many questions if, one night, the little old man had a dream after which he developed the theory that amazed the whole world ... "

For one to get an answer, the correct question must be asked !

Dear Florina,

After downloading i enjoyed reading your essay in one go. That shows the grip you hold on others who care to listen to you. Being a school teacher i admire your human touch as a retired University professor of Physics. Many a times we talk big and tackle difficult topics in sciences. But the reality can not be complicated as the whole creation of the Universe is a logical program of the Creator. It could not grown by chance through pure randomness.

There are a few points i seek clarification from you:-

1. Death has been emphasized as a sort of warning as also the motivation to do something unique in the time available to us. having confined yourself to european philosophers, may i say that plenty of phlosophers have profound things to say about the meaning of life and how it should be lived usefully , with peace of mind. Ancient Indian scriptures of Vedas/Puranas/Upanishads deal with such topics and a sort of the essence has been provided in ' GITA'. Religions of the world have mostly been used for dividing the human race. If one's actions in life are identified with his true religion ( not one by birth or by adoption otherwise),then such anamolies will disappear. World's great men have all been universal in their overall outlook that transcends geographical/cultural boundaries. With today's science/technology, we need such an approach to modern living all over the world. habits/ettiquets/mannerism are superficial for judging human beings, it is the goodness of one deeds in life that should decide his stature in humanity. What are good deeds? If i summarise that reflects the ratio of ones selflessness w.r.t. selfishness in all the objectives and actions in living.

2.Your use of the terms unconscious, conscious and conscience appear a bit tough for me!. I wish if you have talked about the three well-known states of awakefulness, dream and deep sleep instead. To this, i may add another fourth state of meditation. The latter is like fully awake but the mind is restful like in deep sleep. Such a state has been discussed by Patanjali, an ndian Philosopher, who was the originator of Yoga, over 3000 years back. have briefly quoted him in my essay and two other manuscripts posted by me on the essay entitled ' Science Interface with Spirituality ( treat it as humanity rather than in religious term)' and the other is ' Inconstancy of the Physical Constants.....'. This will help you modify your statement ' Physics was wrong so many times' that i personally feel is not appropriate.

3. i am in agreement with you when you state that ' All knowledge within ourselves'. We just have to come to a state of mind that helps us unfold the same. The proof of such a thingb lies in the creation of the Universe itself as per a logical pattern. As we unravel the same we are building our science, both Physics & Cosmology!The knowledge was naturally deposited into the Universe by the Creator and we are the intelligent beings of the universe!

Your essay having come so very late, is a sort of hinderance in a fuller discusion. In fact i noticed your essay first only when i happen to see the huge numbers of public votes it accumulated in such a short time! A tribute to its appeal and quality of presentation i agree with.

Dear Florina

With consciouss entering into unconscious we discover that all is existing NOW.

This NOW in physics we call ATEMPORAL PHYSICAL SPACE.

yours amritAttachment #1: 2_Relation_Between_Time_Mind_and_Consciousness.pdf

Dear Narendra,

I'm happy to find out that you find the „time" to read my essay and even happier to hear that you liked it. Your appreciation not only made me profundly happy but also gave me peace of mind, seeing there are still people concerned about the world in itself. Regarding your clarification, I think the only difference is our way of expressing ourselves, which in turn comes from a certain different cultural background. And still:

1) I agree with you that religions of the world have mostly been used for dividing the human race. Whether it' Vedas, Upanishads, Heidegger, Jung, Castaneda, you or even me, everything that is different is, as I said, the language , our way of expressing things which derives from our culture in every single aspect. Ultimately the spirit expresses itself the same in every one of us and I think it will - at the very moment the world will be awaken - make us understand eachother beyond the language barrier. Or better said to feel eachother because we are essentially a physical manifestation of the spirit. Regarding death, I think it's something we either need to transcend, or to "live with" during our entire life. Such an experience should bring new horizons to us as living beings, not scare us.

2) Regarding the part about "physics was wrong so many times" I was referring to the fact science evolves permanently and things which were unconceivable in the past already tend to look dated. About Patanjali, if I'm permitted to say he's dear to me by his openness and also the simplicity his teachings are expressed to the public. Great people are able to permeate everyone's spirit and reach them in their simple way. Their greatness comes from being able to bring lots of people on the path of enlightenment, just renouncing to their greatness or better said to their ego. As regarding terms like "conscious" or "unconscious", these are overly-employed because they're easier to understand to the larger public, because they've made their way to the social psyche through a certain cultural mechanism. You can use some other words instead, or invent others, but there will be time needed for the world to accept and therefore understand them. You may think it's the other way around, but our bad habit is to only understand what we can accept and only accept what we can find ourselves into.

3) On this matter I think we don't need to discuss any more because I see we've already reached an understanding.

In the end I want to thank you for your appreciation and also for the opportunity to discuss matters really dear and important to me. Good luck to you too with the contest !

Dear Amrit,

Thank you for granting me access to new and interesting information!

Dera Florina,

Nice to go through your response. Nice to see ourselves on the same wavelength. Humanity has identical origin and we are permeated by the same spirit of pure consciousness. In fact, ordinary people the world over, irrespective of their country are simple, helpful to the needy and hospitable and joyful in their basic nature. Cultural differences are peripheral as these include the way we dress, talk and eat the foods available. Peace, love, compassion and sacrifice (for the sake of others) are the governing parameters for living a meanigful life. Death and birth are mere states that close and start our life. What matters are our actions in life, more selfless and less selfish indicate higher level of humanity/spirituality. Warm greetings narendra nath.

PS: There are Romani people in India, mainly in northern region. i understand there have been some interactions between our two countries in the good old days. Perhaps we need people to people revival now. NN

Dear Florina Manuela Pirvulescu,

In an essay The Theory of Time, Space and Gravitation two events simultaneous in one frame of reference are also simultaneous in any other frame of reference. In this essay the time dilation is interpreted a somewhat differently than in the special theory of relativity

Yours faithfully

Robert Sadykov

Florina, in continuation of our exchanges on this forum, i attach herewith a MSS ' Relevance of Cosciousness in Sciences' . i expect that you may desire to go through it and then communicate with me via e-mail < nnath32@ymail.com>, since this competition is over. i don't have your e-mail ID either and hence i am using this way to reach you hopefullyAttachment #1: Relevance_of_Consciousness_in_Sciences.doc