The Quantum Universe is weird, but our world is not

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GRIT-X 2022: Sebastian Deffner

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Georgina Woodward

Well said.
What is measured and subsequently found to be is not just random. It depends both on ‘how you look’ and what is there. I.e. the relation between observed and observer or measuring apparatus that is established, and the existing absolute condition of the observed or measured entity. Prior to measurement or observation it is not limited by being relative to an observer or few observers. It is the source of all relative perceptions or measurements of it .

Georgina Woodward

The outcome is always correlated with the test particle in particle experiments. The singular relative outcome state is generated as the experiment is conducted it does not exist alone before measurement. The observer is not generating an (absolute) element of Object reality but is generating a relative (to this way of measuring) measurement product. The object is not coming into being in the measured state, but the singular measured state is being identified out of the possibilities enabled by the already existing absolute external reality.

Georgina Woodward

Usually the limited relative state of the observation product will not be statistically independent of the condition of the absolute unseen material source of the stimuli i.e. its relations to the rest of material existence. How it seems to be depends on how it is prior to observation. Object permanence applies. Being unseen does not mean the object has no absolute orientation, location, state of motion or energy. It does mean the observer has not yet generated a relative observation product with a singular relative measured state.
Sequential Uni-temporal, unitary and unidirectional passage of time due the change happening within the entire pattern of existence is posited. There is as a result clear unambiguous causality. Generation of the measurement product or observation happens after input of sensory stimuli from the environment to the observer (or particle response outcome, following particle input to apparatus).
The product is limited, and relative. It relates to the relation between the material object source and observer.
An experimenter is free to choose the orientation of apparatus used to investigate a particle. Investigated a particular way it gives a singular measurement product. There can be no testing of a different experimental test of the particle because it is disturbed by the first test and no longer in the same condition.
Taking into account the absolute nature of observer independent Object reality does not itself curtail the freedom of the experimenter to select the experiment that is conducted. Avoiding an objection that is used against superdeterminism; if everything is predetermined so must be the choices of experimenters, negating the possibility of free will.
This addresses the measurement problem. Superposition postulated by quantum mechanics is representation-ally standing in for an absolute condition. At measurement there is transition of thought from the unknown condition of the absolute material source to the known limited relative state product. There can be violation of Bell’s inequalities without having to accept that true ‘entanglement’ is a feature of external, environmental reality or that retro-causality happens or that faster than light communication happens or having to relinquish local realism.

Georgina Woodward

The difference between fact and personal opinion, feeling or judgment based on them is objective proof.
Light meters, being devices, do not have opinion or feeling. It can be demonstrated that most material existing things are sources of ‘light’ quanta, stimuli, either being emitters such as light bulbs or reflectors. The exception being objects coated in highly absorbent paint.
Human-kind knows how eyes and camera like devices function, being receivers of ‘light’ quanta, stimuli input.
To be sources of stimuli the objects must exist. They can not themselves be products of observation.
If objects are existing, not as observation products, but material things the particles from which they are composed and particles they emit or reflect must also be existing.
Not being relative observation products, they can not be occupying the same sensory or device generated space as them.
When testing a particle, the existing particle, the apparatus and experimenter (bodily) are not relative to ‘this way of testing’. They exist independently of the test. unlike the relative measurement product.

Dom

I think our world is pretty weird sometimes too. One time I was recording a video on my phone the phone was in my hand facing forwards camera facing away from me. No mirrors in the room or windows no reflections at all.
In the video you can see my hand pass by the screen . My hand was holding the phone that I was recording the video with. The phone caught itself on camera that should be impossible. I still have the video.