El Naschie Discussion

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I hope this blog could have sufficient tolerance and a minimum of scientific thinking to accept a dissenting voice. You are pretending as if the most important thing is how many papers a scientist publishes. Any reasonable person, let alone a scientist, knows exactly that the number of papers per se is neither here nor there. Since some people for reasons better known to themselves have used the theme as a pretext for launching an attack on Prof. Mohamed El Naschie. Let me give you at least the facts as they are and not as some, for their own end, would like them to be. Mohamed El Naschie is known to be prolific. This has nothing to do with excellence. He published something in the order of 900 papers or even more, simply because he likes to convey his ideas in his own style on all conceivable subjects including art, economy, engineering and physics - something like 250 papers have been published in his own journal in the last 20 years. This is not really much in terms of productivity. It may be even nothing in terms of originality. But these blogs are not the place to discuss it because we cannot write a decent equation understandable to anybody in any of these blogs. When you don't write equations and you don't talk pure science, all what is left are gossip. If you add to gossips envy and vendettas you get the ugly face of internet blogs. You should research the background of the man which some would like to bedevil. Mohamed El Naschie is well known to have been a very wealthy man by the age of 35. He was a full professor of engineering by the age of 34. He has never applied for his research in physics for any funding whatsoever. He never got a penny out of his research in theoretical physics. His ambition is well known to those who live in the Middle East. Some said he wanted to be the Prime Minister of Egypt. That may well be the case. But I doubt very much he could do this job for a single day for reasons I don't want to go into on this blog. El Naschie is a free spirited man and he established CS&F to help scientists in the Third World. The Journal was supposed to be free of charge or at a minimum for a very modest subscription. He came into conflict with Elsevier precisely because of that and he was very upset to see that CS&F turned into a money spinning machine for commercial publishing. The breaking point came many years later with regard to Elsevier translation business enterprise in the People's Republic of China. Some outspoken persons called it a racket. That may be harsh. But El Naschie called it the end of scientific publishing as he knows it. I was privileged to some of the correspondence which he exchanged with top directors in Elsevier. El Naschie used to improve the manuscripts of good Chinese physicists and mathematicians with weak command of the English Language free of charge. You have to know the reasons: El Naschie is an Egyptian nationalist - he is neither a communist, nor a capitalist nor a Muslim fundamentalist or any of these readymade labels. The president of Jia tong University in Shanghai summed it up like that: Egypt was the first country in the world to recognize the People's Republic of China and to withdraw its recognition for Formosa or national China. The People's Republic of China was the first country to stand by Egypt when France and England invaded to recapture the Suez Canal. The President continued by saying it is a pleasure to honor today an Egyptian scientist and friend of China namely Mohamed El Naschie. This might sound to many Europeans as grotesque or comic. However this is what makes Mohamed El Naschie tick. It is typical for him to stand with the underdog, named the Third World where he originally comes from. It is typical for him to be loyal to those who stood with him and his country in its darkest hours. It is as simple as that. I know how hard it is for ordinary physicists to think that there are people who love science for the sake of science. Science is not how Mohamed El Naschie earns his money - that is for sure. CS& F was a costly project for him in terms of time and yes in terms of money. Of course Mohamed is extremely stubborn and he is a formidable opponent when he feels he is right. Those who have charged him wrongly and falsely, I am absolutely confident that they will find out that it is their greatest mistake in life. As with regard to the five papers in the last issue in CS&F written by him, this is really a bad joke. These papers were published on Elsevier science direct site a long time ago. It is the publishing officer in Elsevier who compiled then a hard copy out of the pool of papers. In this particular case, I can tell you an amazing story which I happened to know. The lady in Elsevier compiled this issue with ten papers by Prof. El Naschie and sent it for his approval. He was very busy and said more or less ok ok. I was there and I told him there is a trap and I smell a rat. I said it is ridiculous that Elsevier has put ten papers of yours in one issue although you never approve more than 3 papers at a time per issue if any. El Naschie jumped and said Good gracious, tell them to delete immediately 5 of these papers in order not to delay the production of the issue. I believe someone in Elsevier was trying to frame El Naschie knowingly and on purpose to create a case against him because he opposed the new Elsevier Translation Empire which they set out in China. They charge unreasonable amounts of money for what El Naschie has been doing any case year in and year out free of charge as a service for the young people of a great nation which stood by his country in one of its darkest hours. You have never been so misled about a man as you have been misled about the real motives, quality and character of Mohamed El Naschie. Yes I know him very well but this would never be a reason for me to take his side except that I know that all what has been said about him is more or less a fabrication. In two weeks from now at the most, you will read the truth about this plot in most of the accessible media including Nature. Thank you for being so tolerant to allow somebody to say the truth as he sees it.

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Good Lord! I didn't realize he is from Princeton. Dr. Ben Webster is dragging the good name of Princeton through mud. Is that what he learned from his Professors at Princeton when they have just given him his Ph.D. last year? That explains exactly why I am against all these blogs that are filled with anger and frustration and nothing more. The factual and intellectual content is more often than not zero. Ben, if you start your life this way, you will end up like John Baez or was he your external examiner? Search for other ideals son. I doubt Princeton would take someone from UCR, California to be an external examiner. To be in Princeton is a privilege. Don't turn into a blog maniac. Leave this business to those who have nothing better to do. This is a well meant advice. You have defamed El Naschie enough to eternalize him as a victim of the blogs. From what I read about him he couldn't care less about all what you write. It is you who is harming himself. Remember Princeton is a privilege and to receive a writ for defamatory allegation is not looked kindly upon in Princeton.

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To those responsible for Secret Blogging Seminar Blog, a sub sub sub branch of the n-Category café. You remain faithful to the idea behind your entire net of blogs directed by John Baez. Any dissenting opinion you take off immediately. You are devoted to show process in the style of the Unholy Chinese Cultural Revolution. Your logic is that of the mobs devoted to intimidation. So this is what John Baez calls a one man internet army. At the end you will see that you are no more than Dad's army only without humor or purpose. You have systematically taken off every single dissenting voice defending Mohamed El Naschie. Your behavior is reminiscent of vicious children and has nothing to do with science or even pseudo conference on scientific publishing. You are a bad joke and when you will receive a court order restraining you and forcing you to pay for your evil deeds, you will stop laughing. You are giving a most miserable example to the youth. You have given the word blogs an infamous name. To try to evoke in you a sense of shame is trying the unfeasible.

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Mohamed El Naschie is a fraud, plain and simple. If he isn't, why list numerous high profile affiliations that have publically stated he has never had anything to do with them? And 300 questionable papers published in your own journal...? Come on people, open you eyes!

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I have tried many times to write the truth as I see it on these blogs mentioned by Boem. No way. Anything positive about El Naschie is immediately removed. John Baez describes himself as a one man internet army. Indeed he was able to construct a spider web of interconnected blogs to magnify his pathetic claims to the extent of intimidating almost any commercial publisher. He is a man with an obvious split personality. In the morning he is Dr. John Jekyl pretending to be a professor. At night he is Mr. John Hyde, an internet thug as aptly described in many previous comments. The whole this is just to distract from the basic facts which are truly disgraceful. For the work of Nottale, Ord and El Naschie Reneta Loll received a prize of 1.25 million euros in addition to 3.5 million euros on fractal spacetime. One should ask why should Renate Loll leave the prestigious Max Planx Inst. to work in a small university in Holland? She said she wanted to work with Nobel laureate Gerrard 'tHooft. But 'tHooft does not work with anybody. She answered she just wanted to be near to him. Strangely 'tHooft is very near to El Naschie in more than one sense. El Naschie's, Ord and Nottale's approach is based on indeterministic classical mechanics that is deterministic chaos. Later on 'tHooft started working on what he termed deterministic quantum mechanics. He published a paper or a discussion on the subject in Physics World which I have read. He did not mention Nottale, Ord or El Naschie. Never the less, I saw a whole issue of Chaos, Solitons & Fractals which was dedicated to Gerrard 'tHooft's 60th birthday. In fact the cover of this issue had a very nice picture of 'tHooft on it and in the Editorial, El Naschie praised 'tHooft for indirectly supporting the approach pioneered by Nottale, Ord and himself. These are the sober facts. No allegation and no defamation. If you want to discuss El Naschie's work and why it is right or wrong, there are scientific methods and venues to do so. This character assassination and despicable campaign by the one man internet army, John Baez is what makes me convinced that this is truly a conspiracy. I am equally convinced that at the end, the truth will always prevail.

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To KT If you name is not Said or John Baez and you are plain simple and truly naïve which I doubt very much, then you should know that all the affiliations of Mohamed El Naschie are correct. He is not only the Principal Adviser of KACST he helped build KACST. He is Adviser to King Saud University on Nanotechnology and was one of the main scientists who put King Saud University on the map 35 years ago. He is a Distinguished Fellow of the University of Frankfurt and there is a signed and sealed affidavit by the Director which will be prayed in the High Court in London to which you are courteously invited. He does not have only 300 papers but almost 900. His Ph.D. in 1974 gives in the references three published papers by him as a student. After nearly three years of obtaining his Ph.D. he already had 50 published papers. Before establishing Chaos, Solitons & Fractals he had already published 200 papers and he was an Editor in many journals including ZAMM, the legendary applied mechanics journal established by von Mieses and Prantel if these famous names mean anything to you. El Naschie did not use Chaos, Solitons Fractals, he created it out of nothing and by publishing in it, he made it famous. El Naschie was a full professor and well know nationally and internationally before Chaos, Solitons & Fractals ever existed. He neither needed funding nor promotion and that is what makes you, Baez and Said eat their hearts. El Naschie did not want to publish papers, he was establishing a field and he did, almost single handedly. There is nothing philistines can do or write that will change this and this 'Come on people' is typical for the mad man Said.

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I think that Elsevier is doing dirty jobs in scientific publishing. The CSF journal is owned by Elnaschie and Elsevier is getting money out of this apart from the journal subscription fees. El naschie pays for getting credibility of Elsevier and to have the chance to publish his great scientific ideas in journal hosted by a supposed reputable publishing house like Elsevier. There are other many similar cases in Elsevier.

El naschie keeps publishing junks in CSF for a quite long time and kept unnoticed by mentoring system of Elsevier which seems very odd. While it was so obvious from the far beginning that we have a crackpot.

The same applies to Cambridge university which allowed him to publish his articles for nearly ten years 1993-2001 using its affiliation, while, for sure, he wasn't a staff member there. It is far from reality to imagine that people in Cambridge have been fooled for that long time. According to the following data base

http://www.engineeringvillage2.org

One can find:

17 articles where the affiliation is DAMTP, Cambridge, UK.

72 articles where the affiliation is Dept. of Appl. Math. & Theor. Phys., Cambridge Univ., UK

40 articles where the affiliation is Univ of Cambridge.

No prize for one who guesses at which journal those articles have been published.

It is not enough for Elsevier just to step down Elnaschie , they should explain how these things happened and what their future precautions to prevent such a misusing of editorial power.

On the other side, Cambridge people should explain how it was possible for El naschie to use its affiliation for a quite long time, harming their reputation without charging him and any legal action.

The papers of El naschie would be a permanent black record for both Elsevier and Cambridge for too long time in the future.

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If El naschie is an honest scientist and not a fraud. He should mention the web link to the institute he claimed to have a position or related to it in his website.

I challenge him to put links which shows his claims and to assure his honesty for the others. Please give links to the following claimed position

1-He is the current advisor of the Egyptian Ministry for Science and Technology (High Energy Physics and Nanotechnology)

2- He is Adviser to King Saud University on Nanotechnology, and even more he claimed to be the director of King Abdullah Al Saud Institute for Nano and Advanced Technologies.

One can check the following link where he claimed to be the director

http://agenda.fisica.uniud.it/difa/getFile.py/access?contribId=52&sessionId=32&resId=0&materialId=slides&confId=9

If you check the webpage of of King Abdullah Al Saud Institute for Nano and Advanced Technologies. You find no mention for him at all

One can check the web page for "Committees consultative sciencetisic"

http://www.nano-ksu.com/publish/article_46.shtml

web page for "Supervisory Committee to King Abdullah Institute for Nanotechnology"

http://www.nano-ksu.com/publish/article_63.shtml

In fact it reflects badly on these countries if this was true.

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To Pm What a way to spend your Christmas Eve. Is it devil worshipping? Oh boy, you must be in a true state of cramp and desperation Said Salah El Din Hamad Elnashaie. That is your name my boy and since you are so proud of your deeds for which you have been a fugitive in the US for nine years and returned again to Egypt when your last employer sacked you, then you should say it. Pennsylvania State University sacked you because you were arrested and convicted in Egypt on your return thinking you will get away with it. You are a man who conspired with his wife Shadia Al Shishini from the Dept. of Chemical Eng. University of Cairo from which you were also sacked, I say you conspired to steal from your own late mother and that to finance the films of her daughter Jihan Fadel. Your late mother had to pay for (Sahar Al Lialli). A man with your moral values should find another occupation than trying to destroy everybody who knows the truth about him. You know what, you must have been sacked again. A cowardly rat will always find a place and you have probably found one but then you were sacked again. Whenever there is a flare up, the reason is that you have been sacked. Then you hold everybody except yourself responsible for your own misery. But you are now getting yourself into a spiders web of spies, drug traffickers and criminals. Once upon a time your were respectable. At least that is what we thought of you but now Said you are beyond good and bad. You are truly beyond redemption. I am sure all these words do not mean anything to you. You can spend the rest of what ever is left of your life trying to destroy Mohamed El Naschie because he is a better man than you and he is a better human being than you and he is a better scientist than you. The reason is that he does not spend his time like you and unfortunately also me now, hiding behind a computer and living in a fantasy world of illusions and revenge. You are a pathetic figure Said, not worth a bullet of mercy. Go and find yourself a life. I for one am now going to go out and enjoy the evening in the Big Apple. Your questions will not be answered Said. Not on the net but in the Courts of justice. Take as much rope as you want and you know what you are doing with it. So long.

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The internet fetishist Said Hamad paid John Baez defamation incorporated to establish yet another phony blog entitled L'affaire El Naschie. You can write anything you want against Mohamed El Naschie but they will remove immediately anything for him. That is the extent of scientific thinking of the two men mentioned, Said and John Baez the last. On December 22nd 2008 using the pseudo abbreviation BKG probably a corruption of the KBG, Said's old ideals as a saloon communist, he wrote some entertaining comments and I will pretend they deserve to be answered. Here are the answers:

1) The photo gallery of El Naschie appears indeed in the vol. 25 (2005) but this is an issue dedicated to his 60th birthday. It was not dedicated to his highness, Prof. Mohamed El Naschie but explicitly to the Egyptian engineering scientist and theoretical physicist, Mohamed S. El Naschie. It is completely normal to have photos on such an occasion. Said you try as much as you can, but you cannot mask your deadly jealousy and envy stemming from a rotten soul and aberration of the human gene. In evolutionary terminology, you are a mutation back in time to the missing link. 2) You smell a rat? What is so strange about that Said. It is the natural odor which surrounds you and after all what you have tried with your paid hired hands, your name is mud in Egypt and it will remain so, no matter how hard you try. 3) There is a backlog on the internet of Elsevier's Science Direct of more than three years. Chaos, Solitons & Fractals has the highest impact factor in the history of mathematical science. This is all thanks to Mohamed El Naschie and that is exactly what is killing you Said but remember this is the same Mohamed El Naschie who took you for treatment in London on his own account, who got you a visa and a job together with your wife in Saudi Arabia. Who protected you from persecution from the University of Dhahran in Saudi Arabia and the University of Al Ain in UAE for misappropriating funds and disappearing over night. You appeared later on in the University of Auburn, Alabama but you were dismissed and then you appeared in British Columbia and you were sacked. Then as a distinguished professor for environmental studies, although you are a chemical engineer, you were sacked again. It is the same Mohamed El Naschie who tried to get you a visiting professorship at Cambridge but they did not accept you and that is why you hate Cambridge . It is the same Mohamed El Naschie who tried to get you a journal for Chaos in Chemical Engineering. Prof. Rutherford Aris was one of your supporters but Elsevier turned down the project because of your unstable character, most probably and that is why you hate Elsevier as well. To put succinctly you hate yourself and what you have become and that is what is at the root of all this evil you are living in. You became the tool for the people who have more mundane reasons to defame Mohamed El Naschie, such as Dr. Renate Loll. 4) You can either publish in your own journal or you can't. There is not a single Editor in Chief who does not publish in his own journal. You know that very well and you are not convincing anybody in the know. It remains how many papers can one publish? You are a famous communist, albeit a saloon one, of Egypt Said so probably you are educated enough to know an important maxima from the communist manifesto. Don't they say each according to his needs and each according to his ability? Mohamed is not just an Editor in Chief, he is the Founding Editor in Chief. He created the journal and the discipline. He published about 2-3% of all papers. Prof. Munir Nayfeh and Prof. Ali Nayfeh of the Nayfeh clan publish about 5% of all papers in their journal. Prof. Leon Chua of World Scientific journal Int. Journal of Bifurcation and Chaos publishes about 4% of all papers on an extremely limited subject called the Chua circuit. The Editors of the Elsevier journal Physica D publishes about 50% of all papers. The Editor of Physics Review publishes about 1% of all papers. When you remember how many papers they publish, you are talking about thousands of papers. I am sorry Said but all your reasoning is artificial and blown out of all proportion to fit your real reason which keeps you writing all this trash on Christmas and New Year. Your real reason is revenge and vendetta for what you have caused your self and your family and which you attribute to Mohamed El Naschie. John Baez on the other hand has a more rational reason. He comes from a show biz family and is very proud about his relation to the truly great Joan Baez. She is truly a wonderful woman but he would not qualify to be her used shoes. As a physicist he is not bad but he is surely second if not third class. For this reason he created for himself internet defamation incorporated to feel important and earn some money. In the circumstances when a friend like Dr. Loll is in distress because of plagiarizing some of Mohamed El Naschie's work, then of course he comes to her aid. Noblesse oblige. Finally all of you are deadly jealous from the freedom which Mohamed enjoys. I am afraid he was in Cambridge Said and he refused to be tied to one University, even if it is Cambridge because he did not need to be the slave of anybody, least of all the slave of the lower emotions of hatred and jealousy like you.

I hope this will keep you busy for the rest of the vacation Said. I am sure even John Baez has something better to do, even if it is as a backup for his aunt's band. That would be far more constructive work than nourishing this ridiculous image of a one man internet thug. Oh sorry, I think he calls it army. Bon Noel and happy new year and may God relieve you from your pains.

Amr

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The comment by AB is logical. I know very well that the Chinese Academy of Science wants to control all Chinese Scientists. This is the communist party policy. They got an old Professor, Chuo-Bin Lin and a double agent working for Elsevier Charon Duermeijer to establish a journal called Communications in Nonlinear Science and Numerical Simulation. This is not an Elsevier Journal. It is a very weak and old Chinese Journal and they now want to make it the top journal in nonlinear science. However the real reason is the large money revenue coming from translating Chinese articles into English. Elsevier of course doesn't mind this unethical behavior as long as they make millions of dollars. That is the real story. It is a scandal which will harm all commercial publishing. I know from friends working in China with Professor Mohamed El Naschie that he was against this project. I guess his enemies conspired with Elsevier to get rid of him.

Albert Chen

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All Editors in Chief publish in their own Journals. This is completely normal. How much one publishes is a matter of ability. Therefore what you should discuss is the scientific quality of the publications. Reading the defamation written against Mohamed El Naschie, it is clear that no scientific issue whatsoever was considered. I am sure that those writing on this subject are completely incapable of a rational scientific discussion. Internet blogs are known for sensational news and scandals. They live from media frenzy. This is not the place to discuss science.

Al Cardenas

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The power of the almighty chance brought me to this site. I know both Mohamed and Said. It is truly an incredible irony because Said Salah El Din Hamed Elnashaie is the one who can write papers quicker than he himself could read them. I am a chemical engineer just like Said. I was the Dean of Engineering in a north Canadian University. I arranged for a conference on mathematical modeling and chemical engineering. This was maybe fifteen or more years ago. We received one paper from Prof. Mohamed El Naschie and if I remember correctly, it was on the stability of chemical reactors using Rene Thom's catastrophe theory. We also had a contribution from Prof. Said. Believe it or not, he contributed 24 papers to one conference. He had a whole army of co-authors. Almost the entire department of chemical engineering in King Saud University of Saudi Arabia. What can we understand from that? I think one thing - Egyptians are extremely peculiar creations of the Almighty. I am not drawing this conclusion from the scientific output of Mohamed and Said alone. Look at the pyramids. Who on earth could put so many stones on top of each other to create a wonder of the world? Taking it at its face value, the Egyptian's are marvelous pyramid builders. They could use it as an export article to enhance their collapsing economy once they have solved the transportation problem. Egypt has some of the worst, if not the worst economical problems of whole Africa. I said Africa you notice. You can no longer compare Egypt with its Arab brothers. It is at the bottom. Gone are the days where Egypt could be considered culturally part of the Mediterranean. They are a shadow of their own old self. Amidst all this misery and one of the lowest per capita incomes in the world, you read all these bizarre stories and contrived arguments about who publishes what and how much. If the Egyptians and their friends are evaluating scientific production by numbers of papers, why not go all the way and evaluate it by the number of pages. I have even a better Egyptian idea - why not evaluate the Egyptian scientific output by weighing the papers in the bazaar and may the heaviest win! I think in this case the Egyptians will abandon write on papyrus and type their research on heavy leather of Nile buffalos or crocodiles. I am sure you have all felt my contempt by now to this oriental bazaar which the supporters of Mohamed and Said and John Baez and the rest of you have opened here on a respectable scientific site. People are dying in Gaza, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan and a ravaging economical disaster is looming on the horizon for the entire world and some silly idiots are concerned here mainly with how many papers have been published in this dam Fractals, Solitons & Chaos. Now I am sure you think I am an Israelite. Wrong - I am Egyptian and that is why I find the whole thing ranging from tragic to comedy. I hope God will restore the sanity of the people involved.

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During my years in Cambridge I attended one of those unforgettable lectures by Prof. Sir Arthur Stanly Eddington. In his characteristic prose Eddington gave the following definition for what he nicknamed super mathematics. He said: We need a super mathematics in which the operations are as unknown as the quantities they operate on and a super mathematician who does not know what he is doing when he performs these operations. Such a super mathematics is the theory of groups. Sir Eddington's lecture was reprinted in the fifties but I forget where. I was reminded of all that after what I read about Mohamed El Naschie's work on this and other sites. It seems to me that El Naschie completed what Eddington started but could not bring it to a satisfactory conclusion. El Naschie fused two subjects to a solid unit. First he used causal partially ordered set theory and transfinite groups. Then he joined his sets to the golden mean number system and transfinite dimension theory. The result was a simple computational partially ordered set formalism reminiscent of the original Herman Wyle gauge theory. It would be helpful if we put the polemic and unconstructive rhetoric aside and concentrate upon the mathematical concepts implicit in El Naschie's work with the necessary objectivity and seriousness befitting true scientists.

J.T., Oxbridge

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There is another site connected to the spider web of John Baez and his accomplices. I am sure you remember him. He is the man who proves mathematical theorems using Apache techniques, namely where there is smoke there is fire. The site is called Ars Technica. One particularlz idiotic author is a pompous Chris Lee. He likes you to think of him as a Chinese with a Christian name. In reality you guessed it, he is John Baez, self appointed jack of all sciences, master of none. The amazing this is how these internet holigans got hold of Nature. The method is simple. You create a great deal of noise and smoke on the internet. Second using your students you inform a serious journal like Nature via unscrupulous little journals. Once Nature publishes it, you feed it back to the internet. Subsequently you are paid either by an international publisher or those who obtained prizes in the millions by plagarizing work which they rejected by the main stream journals only to publish it themselves under different labels and appropriate decorations. One day the internet will be accrdited with destoying science and integrity as we used to know them.

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Believe it or not

El naschie had four articles whose titles containing Witten. The articles are

1- A few hints and some theorems about Witten's M theory and T-duality,

Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 25 (2005)545 -548

2- Using Witten's five Brane theory and the holographic principle to derive the value of the electromagnetic structure constant alpha =1/137,

Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 38 (2008)1051 -1053

3- Fuzzy knot theory interpretation of Yang -Mills instantons and Witten's 5-Brane model,

Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 38 (2008)1349 -1354

4- On the Witten -Duff Branes model together with knots theory and E 8 E 8 super strings in a single fractal spacetime theory,

Chaos, Solitons and Fractals xxx (2008)xxx -xxx . The article is still in press, but you can get the pdf. file.

The amazing thing about the references of the first three articles is that they don't contain any research paper for Witten. Finally, the great man realized his mistake and put a reference for Witten in the fourth one (the most recent one). But the man didn't acknowledge who pointed out to him this bug in his program which he used to generate papers (Backreaction blog). Any way this a good step, at least the references are now correctly produced. Unfortunately you still need further improvement in your code that seems has a serious problem with E. Witten. Although you referred to a paper of Witten the program has produced a wrong title for it. In the references list we find

[4 ]Witten E. Searching for a realistic Kaluza-Klein Theory. Nucl Phys B 1981;186:412 -28.

While the correct title turned out to be, as you can check yourself:

Search for a realistic Kaluza-Klein theory

Nuclear Physics B, Volume 186, Issue 3, 10 August 1981, Pages 412-428, Edward Witten

As N. Eisfeld wrote on Mar. 26, 2008 @ 18:32 GMT, in this blog describing El naschie

"This man has never bad-mouthed, ignored or downplayed anyone or any contribution. He also acknowledged every single person who contributed to his work unless he genuinely did not know and then he will immediately apologize of the unintended omission."

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To KK alias Said Elnashaie alias John Brunt alias S. Khalil alias AlArabi alias the Sons of Egypt etc, etc, etc. compliments of the King and I.

It is truly amazing how much triviality people who profess to be scientists can harbor. The above mentioned person has inundated us with dozens of trivial analyses of the literature. It is the same person who hates El Naschie for nothing more than that he hijacked the media for five years. Personal envy and inferiority complexes on the rocks, thick, neither shaken nor stirred. Poor soul. Can't you for once say something important? You are killing yourself searching for anything you can comprehend from the work of El Naschie and all that you can come with is these pathetic statistics of the literature. OK. Let me free you from your illusions, if something of the sort is possible at all.

1. I have seen you and I know Mohamed El Naschie. The reason he hijacked the media is not

connected to his theory nor the width and depth of his knowledge and his intellectuality. It is mainly because of the attractiveness of his personality, stemming from living in harmony with himself. In old age you get the face you deserve and I am afraid a man full of bitterness and hatred like yourself does not and will never have a face appealing to the media. What are you going to do about that? There is no beauty salon or cosmetic surgeon who can change the soul which projects on your face.

2. For a high energy physicist the name Witten as well as his 5-Brane in 11 dimensions is as well known as the name of Isaac Newton. When you write a paper on classical mechanics and mention the name of Newton being synonymous with classical mechanics, you do not give Principia as a reference. There is not a single person who would make such a remark as yours unless he is totally ignorant or blinded by hatred. What El Naschie has forgotten about the literature in high energy physics, a man like you could spend a life time trying to learn and not achieve. Said you have disgraced yourself, disgraced your family and disgraced Egypt. You are becoming a parasite and a fearful virus. We are all afraid of you. But this does not make you respectable. Everybody is afraid of microbes and viruses but that does not make them respectable. I think the best punishment for you is to wish you longevity of life so that you can suffer from your unattractive character as long as possible.

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It seems that the great man (El Naschie) is illiterate in physics, you can look at the spires data base for High energy physics literature you will find 124 articles titled with Witten and all of them contain references for Witten's work except yours that even have strange tiltes. Please look at http://www.slac.stanford.edu/spires/find/hep/www?rawcmd=FIND+T+witten%27s&FORMAT=www&SEQUENCE=

The works of Witten are not standard or so popular as you think. It is not the same status as classical mechanics which we have since three hundred years and is a well established discipline.

I brought you another surprise , here I just quote from the n-category group, which has been Posted by: Denis-Charles Cisinski on November 11, 2008

"After discovering the existence of this ignored genius through this discussion, I couldn't resist and had a look at his work (I am so blessed by providence that my library paid Elsevier enough to give me access on line to all of this wonderful journal: Chaos, Solitons & Fractals...).

I had a look by random at three papers, and I felt really lucky: if you have the opportunity to 'read' the following two articles,

El Naschie, On dimensions of Cantor set related system, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, Vol 3, no. 6 (1993)

and

El naschie, Dimension and Cantor spectra, Chaos Solitons and Fractals, Vol. 4, no. 11 (1994)

you will see that, up to a small bunch of lines, they are exactly the same (I mean word for word). Of course this method of writing is quite efficient to reach the 300's of published papers. Well, 300 is not that much: the guy is lazy! Or maybe repeating the same thing three hundred times is a pedagogic trick to make sure we, dummy people, understand? Apart from kidding, did someone tried to count how much times he did copy himself so faithfully?

And I have been so lucky that the 'results' of these 'two' papers seem to form the corner stone of 'E-infinity theory'.

I am just amazed."

Till here the quotation is ended and just we present a simple explanation. It is well known in producing random numbers by computer codes, the produced numbers are not truly random and are called pseudo random numbers, at the best they satisfy some certain characteristic properties of randomness. If the programs is used for long it could reproduce the same numbers with clearly wrong statistical properties. The same phenomena occurs in producing pseudo science, if you are using a not well tested program for generating papers , the same paper can be produced two times and that was the case for El naschie. Since El naschie is so transparent in everything, he published the same article two times in his own journal, although it was clear that the code he used was broken too early. Who else would dare to publish the same article two times in the same journal. That is exactly what El Naschie did in his 1993 paper On " On dimensions of Cantor set related system, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, Vol 3, no. 6 (1993)" and "Dimension and Cantor spectra, Chaos Solitons and Fractals, Vol. 4, no. 11 (1994)".

In fact, this is just a statistical analysis of the El Naschie's papers that are really chaotic with no contents and superficially seeming complex but trivially could be produced by iterating some few buzz words.

Maybe the great man could provide us with a more interesting explanation.

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Dear Jimmy Hs, You might be even more amazed to know that Elsevier have published my own paper twice. They did that without even asking me. I was happy to see my paper in print then two months later I found the same paper printed again. When I made a fuss and complained they told me this is a frequent mistake because of on line submissions and automisation. When you dig you find this is not true. It is out sourcing. They are searching for cheap and cheaper ways of typesetting their journals. Some of the typesetters do not even speak English. It is really rediculous. None the less Elsevier remains the best among commercial publishers. This does not answer your comment. However I think you are making too much out of numbers of published papers. The number of published papers is in my view neither here nor there and could not be taken as an indication for the quality or lack of it. There are people who tend to be prolific. Other people tend to republish the same work several times, albeit with some modifications. Witten is one of those but there are less important scientists who are exactly the same. El Naschie tends to publish very short papers. It seems to me that he concentrates on ideas which is why he can write so many papers. There are people who cut a work into many small papers in order to get promotion and fulfil the quota required by their respective University Board for promotion. That I find far worse than publishing the same paper many times. Either way, I do not care. What I find important is the content of a paper and this is another story altogether.

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RF - Your comments are wasted on Jimmy. This is just another one of John Baez sock puppets. Actually the language is not even of the level of Baez. I think it is Said Elnashaie, the ignoramous. If you would have the faintest idea about what you are talking Said, you would not have written what you have. You are making an absolute fool of yourself. But what should we expect from a man who was ready to stand behind bars in criminal court so that the daughter of the man who was sleeping with his wife can produce a porno film. Such a person like you Said is beyond good and bad. And yes, for high energy physicists, Witten is far more established than classical mechanics. In fact true high energy physicists have forgotten classical mechanics. They can think only in terms of quantum mechanics. You on the other hand can think only in terms of hatred, jealousy and the inustice given to you on the day of your birth by having such a repulsive personality. Even your girlfriend, Amani who married your friend 35 years ago was quoted as saying 'Thank God she did not end with you'. You are a bundle of inferiority complexes, repulsive, mean, greedy and egotistical. Leave this site before I put your picture behind bars for everyone to see. This is a site for scientific debate. Take your problems to the shrink of your neighborhood. Leave this site or else.

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