El Naschie Discussion

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I have found an amazing article due Amr El naschie (brother of M. S. Elnaschie) celebrating his brother.s 60th birthday.

The article is published in Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 25 (2005)767 -768 under the title Recollections.

Here are some short bits from the article

" ..But my brother believes that I suffer

from total lack of imagination and technological fatness because I do not change disciplines every 10 years. .."

".. I would

love to lock up the said colleague with Professor El Naschie,or ...,and reveal to the former that the latter was trained as a structural engineer,and is now a pinnacle of nuclear and particle physics,amongst other things."

" He,Mohamed,is indeed brilliant,but all those who will read my article know that already.He is versatile and is a

visionary,but these are characteristics that all those who meet him conclude that he enjoys."

"I continued though to say that

although I do not see Mohamed much,I admire him from a distance;whilst I could not afford the same admiration to

our middle brother Saiid,who really looked after me and helped me grow up. .."

"....When I was 17,I visited Mohamed in London,and followed this by a visit to Saiid in Edinburgh.There was a hot

competition between them regarding who would be able to convince me to leave the Medical School at Cairo University

and go into engineering;civil,like Mohamed,or chemical,like Saiid. "

"This was in 1973,the year my name appeared on a paper,with Mohamed,published in the Journal of the

American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. "

"..Being Mohamed El Naschie's brother is a major responsibility!You are expected to be somewhat of a genius,which I certainly am not.OK,I still hold the dubious distinction of being the youngest full professor in Civil Engineering at Imperial College,London,and certainly the first,and hitherto the only,Middle Eastern full professor and Head of Section,but how high this stacks up next to the series of professor positions that Mohamed has piled up in four continents?.."

"I am inspired along the route

of publish or perish by Mohamed's publication record (journal papers in the hundreds)and the story of Thomas

Harriot..."

I have some doubts that Amr El naschie wrote this article.

This article is mentioned no where on his website https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/aelnash/www/index.htm.

The man should be proud to celebrate birthday of his brother who is considered as the most influential scientist in the history of man kind. One can even send e-mail to aelnash@uiuc.edu to get confirmation about his article.Reply | Report Abuse

An at 05:10 AM on 04/19/09

Comments on the article of Amr El naschie

Of course M. S. El naschie is interested in every things and he can change his field every 10 years and may be every day. But how Amr Elnashie did know that his brother is a pinnacle of nuclear and particle physics,amongst other things.

Does he know what his brother has published in particle physics is non sense. It didn't happen to him to read by chance any of his brother's article to discover easily it is non sense. Did he discovered that in most of his brother's papers equations are not numbered. How he was sure that his brother is a really brilliant one, is that impression got by reading his trivial papers.

According to Amr El naschie

" I continued though to say that

although I do not see Mohamed much,I admire him from a distance; whilst I could not a ?ord the same admiration to

our middle brother Saiid,who really looked after me and helped me grow up."

---Why this prejudice against Saiid, can he give us more explanation.

Telling about professor's positions piled by El naschie in four continents? It is a favor to tell us where he got professor title.

you were admiring M. S. Elnaschie publishing record, do you know that he published few hundreds of non sense papers in CS&F where he was the editor in Chief abusing his editorial power.

The fraudulence of M. S. El naschie is evident even for non specialist.

Of course one should check if Amr El naschie has really written that article or not. Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 25 (2005)767 -768

The e-mail of Amr Elnaschie is aelnash@uiuc.edu

Amr S. Elnashai, Ph.D.

Bill and Elaine Hall Endowed Professor of Civil Engineering

Director Mid-America Earthquake Center

Director NEES-MUSTSIM Facility

Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering

University of Illinois

2129e Newmark Civil Engineering Laboratory, MC-250

205 North Mathews Avenue

Urbana, Illinois 61801

Phone: (217) 265-5497

Fax: (217) 265-8040

Email: aelnash@uiuc.edu

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/aelnash/www/

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Comments on the article of Amr El naschie

Of course M. S. El naschie is interested in every things and he can change his field every 10 years and may be every day. But how Amr Elnashie did know that his brother a pinnacle of nuclear and particle physics,amongst other things.

Does he know what he has published in particle physics is non sense. It didn't happen to him to read by chance any of his brother's article to discover easily it is non sense. Did he discovered that in most his brother's papers equations are not numbered. How he was sure that his brother is a really brilliant one, is that impression got by reading his trivial papers.

According to Amr El naschie

" I continued though to say that

although I do not see Mohamed much,I admire him from a distance;whilst I could not a ?ord the same admiration to

our middle brother Saiid,who really looked after me and helped me grow up."

Why this prejudice against Saiid, can he give us more explanation.

Telling about professor's positions piled by El naschie in four continents? It is a favor to tell us where he got professor title.

you were admiring M. S. Elnaschie publishing record, do you know that he published few hundreds of non sense papers in CS&F where he is the editor in Chief abusing his editorial power.

The fraudulence of M. S. El naschie is evident even for non specialist.

Of course one should check if Amr El naschie has really written that article or not. Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 25 (2005)767 -768

The e-mail of Amr Elnaschie is aelnash@uiuc.edu

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I didn't claim that El naschie has no Ph.D. , but I just wonder

why one can't find his thesis on the online catalouge of university of London. The thesis of the great man El naschie should be written in gold and to be available to every one. It is the thesis that led its author to golden physics, golden quantum field theory and golden differential geometry. In fact this is something at the level of Newton's principia even may be more important. El naschie's thesis offers gold while principia doesn't. I urge the great man just to put a coy of his valuable precious thesis on his website. Soon and for sure, it comes the day where you can find his thesis on museums.

I urge the great man to give his views and plans for the next millennium as Hilbert did this for the twentieth century at its beginning, where Hilbert gave 23 open problems in mathematics. Man like El naschie is is more influential and smarter than Hilbert and can easily plan for the next coming thousand years - third millennium. El naschie could give one thousand and one open problems in mathematics and physics, nearly a problem for each year.

I urge the great man before publishing a new breakthrough paper shocking the establishment by his tremendous genius brain, just to number the equations in your papers. I have looked at many of your papers and I found in all of them equations are not numbered. You can just fix the program producing papers to number equations. Please acknowledge this site when you fix bugs in the program generating papers. Alternatively, you can learn latex program which automatically numerate equations. You can find many stuff about latex on http://www.tug.org/ (tex user group).

If you have any paper in CS&F at which you numbered equations please tell me.

P. S. Awaiting the reply of the great man El naschie Reply

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To the Web Master

Do you consider it correct and fair to take out any positive comments about El Naschie and his work and leaving defamatory stuff against El Naschie and encouraging it? Is that a sign of the chivalry and honor characterizing this site? Mr. E.W. is Mr. An and is identical to Sh. This is the same person who is paid to do the dirty job of defamation. Maybe you would like to have his profile (http://thecaseofsaidelnashaie.blogspot.com/2009/01/case-of-

said-elnashaie.html#comments).

P.S. Sh is now H.S. and this site and its Master as well as the good man Garrett Lisi have been made a mockery of by internet hooligans and vandals, notably Said Salah El Deen Hamad

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All these comments describing El naschie as a hero for muslem countries in this site or other sites are just lies. Even more these comments are due to El naschie himself as is clear to every one. El naschie is an extremely bad muslem example, if he is really a true good muslem then he should be adhered to the Islamic morality like honesty. But the great man lies in telling about his affiliations and expertise. Abusing his power as an editor in chief publishing hundreds of non sense papers.

All of these are not good deeds according to Islamic mesure and deserve a punishment or at least this guy should be declared to all people for being dishonest and cheating innocent people and warning people to deal with him.

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Other criteria of crackpottishness are exactly fitting El naschie case can be found in

http://www.cognitionandculture.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=435:how-i-found-glaring-errors-in-einsteins-calculations&catid=57:pascals-blog&Itemid=34

1 All crackpottery is foundational. Crackpots do not go for the small problems, for what Kuhn called the puzzle-solving of normal science, they invariably shake the foundations of modern physics. They provide a new structure for the atom, a new unified theory of field and energy, a complete alternative to general relativity, an entirely novel cosmology, etc.

2 Most physics crackpots are engineers. More than 95% of my sample boast engineering degrees, or combine an undergraduate maths/physics degree followed by an engineering PhD or equivalent. This is not too surprising, as this may be the only kind of cursus that provides one with enough math background to understand the equations and formulae in the textbooks without actually studying maths and physics - which would show the crackpot why he's misguided.

3 All crackpots are male. There used to be the one lady valiantly posting 'quantum physics disproved' webpages but she recently died. Perhaps this extraordinary sex-ratio is explained by point [2] above.

4 Crackpots ignore other crackpots. For a long time, physicists pursued by cranks used the time-honored strategy of forwarding those messages to other ones, in the hope that the cooks would exhaust their energies in reciprocal refutations. In fact, practically none of the websites in my collection makes any mention of any other one. In the crackpot's worldview, there is ego (with an enormously important discovery) vs. the monolithic community of "establishment physics", and that's it.

5 The crackpot theory is invariably more intuitive than the standard one. The alternatives to special relativity (which is a favourite crackpot target - about 4/5 of my sample are about that) are invariably "better", at least in the eyes of the authors, in that they do not result in deeply non-intuituive notions, eg time-dilation. Similarly, alternatives to general relativity eschew the notion of time-space distortion as an account of gravitation. Alternative to the standard model of elementary particles are generally fonded on material particles with known or knowable position and velocity, rather than the standard uncertainty picture.

6 In the same way, the crackpot alternative is, almost universally, less mathematically challenging than the standard account. For instance, tensors and other complicated tools of SR are replaced with college-level calculus, and in many cases with high-school algebra.

7 The crackpot theory is based on textbooks. Most of my cranks cite virtually no recent publications in physics. Almost all of them rely, for their understanding of modern physics, on what is in the textbooks. This explains some quaint, often comical aspects of their prose. For instance, the sites I observed contain extensive and meticulous analyses of the famous Michelson-Morley experiment, demonstrating identical speed of light in all directions, often cited as the princeps refutation of the notion of ether and vindication of relativistic models. The cranks go on and on about possible aspects of that particular study that standard physics may have neglected. Or they fill pages with the 1919 eclipse and the demonstration of Einsteinian "light-bending" by gravity, trying to show that the observation was not so conclusive, etc. The reason for this obsession with particular studies is that those are invariably cited by textbooks - and that is where the cranks get their scientific training.

An at 08:46 AM on 04/12/09

Congratulation for being a champ for the third time dear El Naschie...you have passed all testes with excellent scores the tests of:

-1- T'Hooft criteria for being a bad theoretical physicist.

2- Jhon Baez index of crackpots.

3- Finally Pascal Boyer measure.

http://www.cognitionandculture.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=435:how-i-found-glaring-errors-in-einsteins-calculations&catid=57:pascals-blog&Itemid=34

You are unbelievable..you are so universal that you fit with all bad criteria. You deserve to be mentioned in the next edition of Guinness World Records.

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A plan to rescue CS&F. I think it would work, but pride will prevent it from being implemented.

My idea is very simple.

1. Keep El Naschie as Editor in Chief.

2. Add to the cover the small-print tagline "for papers that have no chance of being published anywhere else".

3. Rather than making a pretense of individual peer-review, require all submissions to have appeared on the arxiv for two months prior to submission.

4. Reduce the price from $4520 per year to $45.20. That should cover publication costs if authors are required to follow a strict template that avoids the expense of typesetting.

5. Unbundle it from Elsevier's higher-quality journals. Require it to be purchased separately, or demonstrate good humor and lack of bitterness by working out a deal to bundle it with The Journal of Irreproducible Results. http://www.jir.com/

That's the whole plan! There's a refreshing honesty and logic to it. In every area of commerce there are better and worse quality products, and they are distinguished by price. Why should science journals pretend to be different?

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What prevents El naschie to publish in scientific leading journals like nature, science, nuclear physics (that journal belongs to Elseiver), and physical review etc...

For what reason he is insisting to publish 350 articles in CS&F, and when the journal was closed he couldn't publish in any good journal. Is it a sign for his incompetence ??!!

El naschie is a very rich man then he can establish his own company, and let me suggest the name El naschiveir publishing house, world unlimited corruption. That is much better that stealing people's taxes for his vanity journal. He should publish his great ideas at his own expense not at people's taxes.

I think that El naschie and Elseiver should be sued for wasting people's taxes in doing junk science. I think El naschie should be punished for his scientific guilty and for claiming false positions and affiliations.

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To the Web Master

said-elnashaie.html#comments).

P.S. Sh is now H.S. and this site and its Master as well as the good man Garrett Lisi have been made a mockery of by internet hooligans and vandals, notably Said Salah El Deen Hamad

P.P.S. Have you got the point now dear Web Master. John Baez who is Said who is E.W. and An and Sh and H.S. and is a totally perverted lunatic is now calling himself Rank One. Wow, he has an inflated appreciation of his unworthy self. Could you please block this guy or we will deal with it. We have given the warning.

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To EInfinity Club at 08:05 AM on 04/05/09

Of course El naschie has a peculiar sense of humor which is evident in his numerous papers displaying his extraordinary mathematical skills. The great man showed in a single stroke

that 5= 2 x 2 1 and 686 = 5 x 137 1, his mathematical talent is Gods gift to foolish people.

The nice Einfinity club didn't mention Germany which was also involved in that conspiracy against El naschie. By the way, is there any news about the new court order against Drosser (Die Zeit article). I would like to remember Einfinity club with El naschie's humorous interpretation of quantum mechanics (Many jokes interpretation).

Finally comment from http://www.scienceblogs.de/mathlog/2008/11/chaos-bei-elsevier.php

rank zero? 27.03.09 ? 12:41 Uhr

Imho, a couple of authors publishing in CSF can be blamed. They simply took advantage of the lousy peer-reviewing process and managed to publish papers that no serious mathematical journal would have accepted. They managed to prolongate their publication lists in an easy way and did harm to colleagues who worked seriously and with much effort, and at least the authors who have almost no publications except in CSF and "friendly" journals whose articles where obviously turned down elsewhere should have been very much aware of this situation.

In addition, it appears that the citation abuse was very much in common not only for El N. himself, but a whole group of CSF authors. When such manipulationa are frequently done, one shouldn't claim to be innocent.

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The astonishing thing about El naschie is that he

could survive for a quit long time in Europe and remained as a Cheif editor of CS&F for almost nearly twenty years.

Also, I think he managed to damage the reputation of Cambridge to some extent by publishing numerous non sense papers using its affiliation.

Furthermore, he damaged the reputation of Nobel laureate G. Thooft when he dedicated some of his non sense papers to G. Thooft - (On quarks confinement and asymptotic freedom Chaos,Solitons and Fractals 37 (2008)1289-1291)-

, surprisingly enough Thooft kept silent about this. I think even a third class physicist wouldn't be happy if El naschie dedicated one of his non sense paper to him, and for sure he would complain and sue El naschie.

It is a tempting suggestion to invoke the issue to sue Elsevier and El naschie for damaging the reputation of scientific publishing. I think that the respectable institutes, universities and research centers that paid for that junk CS&F must sue Elsevier and El naschie and asking for penalties.

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The Great man (El naschie) is puplishing backward in time. The man was used to puplish forward in time, but here the instance for puplishing backward. The great man is not concerned with time arrow, for hime time can go forward and backward even vibrates. The ritle of this amazing paper is

On John Nash's crumpled surface

M. S. El Naschie

Department of Mathematics,The School of Electronics and Computer Science,University of Surrey,Guildford,UK

Solvay Institute of Physics and Chemistry,University of Brussels,Belgium

Faculty of Science,Department of Astrophysics,University of Cairo,Egypt

Chaos,Solitons and Fractals xxx (2003)xxx -xxx

www.elsevier.com/locate/chaos

ARTICLE IN PRESS

Since 2003 and it is still in press. The great man wrote many nonsense things about string theory, cosmology and particle physics.

I'm interested in the pargraph where the great man telling about him self that he became a professor in a civil engineering department.

"Few years later after becoming a professor in a civil engineering department,I again had a ?are up of my interest in

economics due to coming in touch with the person and work of John Kenneth Galbraith.I was taken,like everybody

else who read his books and knew the man by his wit,eloquence and humanity and I found his book the ''Age of

Uncertainty '',thoroughly and wholly delightful [5 ].I did not know at this time that I will be working in the years to

come within the framework of the principle of uncertainty in the form enshrined in quantum physics by Heisenberg and

in classical mechanics by chaotic dynamic and fractal geometry."

Can the great man mention at which university he got the title Prof. Dr. and also explain why the article is still in press.

I'm afraid, that he might have aricles still in press from the ancient Greek time. Who knows.

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El naschie deserves the name of the great corrupter.

A lone single handed and with his own money.

He has managed to corrupt Elsevier for almost twenty

years, 1992-2009. He has published few hundered (347)

non sense articles in CSF. Up till now, Elsevier can not

get rid of him. There is no article for El naschie in

the recent article of 2009 in CSF, which is a good sign.

But most of the articles trumpeting the E-infinity theory

and citing El naschie works.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/

science?_ob=PublicationURL&_tockey=%23TOC%235300%239999

%23999999999%2399999%23FLA%23&_cdi=5300&_pubType=J&_auth

=y&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&

md5=faf5d2a06ff9be6c0d0126fdc479017c

Not only that but the great man (El naschie) has also

managed to corrupt Cambridge for ten years.

According to the following data base

http://www.engineeringvillage2.org

One can find:

17 articles where the affiliation is DAMTP, Cambridge,

UK.

72 articles where the affiliation is Dept. of Appl.

Math. & Theor. Phys., Cambridge Univ., UK

40 articles where the affiliation is Univ of Cambridge.

No prize for one who guesses at which journal those

articles have been published.

All of these indicates the power of money not of self

publications or citations.

It is sad, that we lost the joke papers and now one can

not find any new paper for him. His papers are source of

infinite jokes.

The great man can establish his own publishing company

and calling it Elnaschievier to compete Elsevier in

publishing science fronteir.

We hope the great man not to waste a lot of time with

his socckpuppets and return producing lovely, joke

papers in Elnaschievier publishing house.

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I think El naschie can use even a small pocket calculator to do his research. Maybe he can use just counting on his fingers.

One just give a look at his review article published in CS&F, the article is 28 pages. For your surprise equations were not numbered. I think he never refer to an equation used before.

The article on his website

http://www.el-naschie.net/bilder/file/8.%20A%20review%20of%20E-infinity%20theory%20and%20the%20mass.pdf

A review of E in ﬁnity theory and the mass spectrum of high energy particle physics

It is really a scandal, and El naschie is too foolish to put this article on his website.

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Yes Rank One. It is a good idea. Add to that the Editor in Chiefs advisor should be Said whose criminal record is in Google http://thecaseofsaidelnashaie.blogspot.com/2009/01/case-of-said-elnashaie.htmlhashcomments . In addition the Editorial Board should comprise the well known one man internet army John Baez who will make sure that any dissenting voice will be punished by an appropriate campaign of defamation owned by Jason. Finally the journal should have two more comperes namely Mr. Christoph Drosser of Die Ziet and the great scientist the one and only hero of Croatia Zoran Skoda. That is enough.

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Finally the Great Huan was removed from the editorial board of CS&F.

He is one of the greatest suporter of El naschie E-infinity theory

His typical abstract paper

Hierarchy of wool fibers and its interpretation using E-infinity theory

Chaos, Solitons & Fractals,

In Press, Corrected Proof, Available online 9 August 2008

Ji-Huan He, Zhong-Fu Ren, Jie Fan, Lan Xu

Abstract

Why do wool fibers show excellent advantages in warmth-retaining and many other practical properties? The paper concludes that their hierarchical structure is the key. Using E-infinity theory, its Hausdorff dimension is estimated to be about 4.2325, very close to El Naschie's E-infinity dimension, 4.2360, revealing an optimal structure for wool fibers.

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Just see the attached pdf file for the new board of CS&FAttachment #1: new_borad.pdf

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Another associate editor of CS&F who is still there and not removed yet.

M. A. Helal in his one of his funny papers which was comminucated by J. Huan

Chaos, Solitons & Fractals

Volume 36, Issue 4, May 2008, Pages 787-796

Tsunamis from nature to physics

M.A. Helal and M.S. Mehanna

Communicated by Prof. Ji-Huan He. Available online 24 October 2007

Abstract

Tsunamis are gravity waves that propagate near the ocean surface. They belong to the same family as common sea waves that we enjoy at the beach; however, tsunamis are distinct in their mode of generation and in their characteristic period, wavelength, and velocity. The type of tsunamis that induce widespread damage number about one or two per decade. Thus "killer tsunamis" although fearful, are a relatively rare phenomenon.

4. Conclusion

Not all major earthquakes cause tsunami, however many of them do. If the quake is located near or directly under the ocean, the probability of a tsunami increases.

Tsunami can occur at any time, day or night. They can travel up rivers and streams connected to oceans. A small tsunami at one beach can be a giant one few miles away.

Never go down to the beach to watch a tsunami because when you can see the wave you are too close to escape. Tsunami can move much faster than a person can run!

No comments, but I'm sure you will enjoy reading that paper so I attached it.Attachment #1: sumami.pdf

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From

http://groups.google.com.kw/group/sci.physics.research/msg/e0f80e7f01da5b75

Last year there was some discussion in this group about the number of

publications that the Chief Editor of the journal Chaos, Solitons and

Fractals had self-published - see

http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.physics.research/browse_thread/...

This editor, el Naschie, had 155 papers published in this journal from

2005 to 2008 (74 of them in 2008), another 178 publications in the

journal from before that, and approximately 2 publications anywhere

else.

Elsevier actually did what one could describe as the most minimal

reaction that was possible.

They only fired El Naschie, and seemingly also one of his supporters, J.

J. He, from the editorial board.

However, Elsevier found that the Journal Chaos Solitons and Fractals

had a huge backlog of around 900 articles, which were already accepted

under El Naschie.

Elsevier has decided to print these articles without further peer-review.

For this reason, one still finds some articles about El Naschie's

crackpot theories in the 2009 volumes that have already appeared.

Also, there are El Naschie supporters remaining in the international

editorial board.

The behavior of Elsevier is certainly not what one could call

scientifically appropriate.

Elsevier should immediately fire Editors who collaborated with El

Naschie in the sense that they co-authored or referenced to El Naschie's

crackpot stuff.

Elsevier should not publish the backlog of the Journal without any

additional peer review. They should at least search for articles which

cite El Naschie's work and send them back to a honest peer review

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Another article about the great man El naschie written by Marc Abrahams

on the Guardian, Tuesday 30 June 2009.

Short bits

Scientists who struggle to get their reports published, or to get anyone to pay attention to them, might consider the path blazed by Dr Mohamed El Naschie. El Naschie found an appreciative science journal editor. The editor subsequently published hundreds of El Naschie's studies, and also made El Naschie a glamorous figure - featuring him in lavish photo-spreads in the company of famous scientists and powerful world leaders. ........

One can follow the full article on

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/jun/30/improbable-research

The great man El naschie should sue guardian.

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