We argue that a science that is fundamentally different from ours must be based on domains of knowledge other than physics. The reason is that any physics-based science would be for all purposes identical to ours. This leaves us with two alternatives: a science that is grounded on biology and a science that is grounded on a theory of mind. The first case contradicts our current knowledge, but the second one does not. Hence, a science built upon a theory of mind, that is not reducible to physics, is our best bet for an advanced science that is radically different from ours.
Could Science be Different?
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Charis Anastopoulos
A very interesting, in-depth essay with ideas aimed at overcoming the modern conceptual - paradigmatic crisis in the metaphysical / ontological basis of fundamental science, which manifests itself as a "crisis of understanding" ("J. Horgan "The End of Science", Kopeikin K.V. "Souls" of atoms and "atoms" of the soul : Wolfgang Ernst Pauli, Carl Gustav Jung and "three great problems of physics"), "crisis of interpretation and representation" (Romanovskaya T.B. "Modern physics and contemporary art - parallels of style" ), "loss of certainty" (Kline M. "Mathematics: Loss of Certainty"), "trouble with physics" (Lee Smolin "Trouble with Physics"). Fundamental science "rested" in the understanding of space and matter ( ontological structure), the nature of the "laws of nature", the nature of "fundamental constants", the nature of the phenomena of time, information, consciousness.
Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences Yu.S.Vladimirov notes in the article "PRINCIPLES OF METAPHYSICS AND QUANTUM MECHANICS" (No. 1, 2017, p 10):
<<At present, the main goal of theoretical physicists is to build a holistic (monistic) physical picture of the world based on a single generalized category. At this point in time, it is "seen" (interpreted) differently from the standpoint of the three named paradigms: a single vacuum in the field theory approach, a single geometry in the geometric worldview, or a single system of relations (structure) in the relational worldview. In our opinion, these are different names for the same desired physical (metaphysical) first-beginning.>>
https://lib.rudn.ru/file/Metaphysics%20#1_23_2017%20print.pdf
So what is this "SINGLE GENERALIZED CATEGORY", which will unite all three "paradigms" and "approaches" (according according to Yuri Vladimirov) and combine the "sciences of nature" and "sciences of the spirit"?
This is the meta-category LOGOS. which is the key to all science and is understood in the Heraclitean sense as META-LAW. that governs the universe. By the way, the concept of "meta-law" is used by Lee Smolin in "Time Reborn: From the Crisis in Physics to the Future of the Universe".
More than a quarter of a century ago, the mathematician and philosopher Vasily Nalimov set the super-task of building a "super-unified field theory that describes both physical and semantic manifestations of the World" - the creation of a model of the "Self-Aware Universe"
[https://web.archive.org/web/20111205183605/http://v-nalimov.ru/articles/111/395/]
In the same direction, the ideas of the Nobel laureate in physics Brian Josephson (which are not very noticed by mainstream science), set forth in the essay "On the Fundamentality of Meaning"
[https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3088]
The paradigm of the Universe as an holistic generating process gives a new look at matter: MATTER is that from which all meanings, forms and structures (material and ideal) are born.
There are three and only three absolute forms of existence of matter (absolute states): absolute rest (linear state, Absolute Continuum) + absolute movement (vortex, circular, Absolute Discretuum) = absolute becoming (absolute wave, DisContinuum). What is especially important: each absolute form of the existence of matter has its own ONTOLOGICAL PATH (bivector of the absolute state). Three absolute states of matter substantiate the ABSOLUTE COORDINATE SYSTEM - the "carcass of the Universe". Accordingly, SPACE (absolute, ontological, existential) has three ontological dimensions and nine gnoseological dimensions.
But you still need to “dig” deeper into ontology in order to “grab” the MetaNoumenon — ONTOLOGICAL (structural, cosmic) MEMORY, the “soul of matter”, its measure. Ontological (structural, cosmic) memory is that "nothing" that holds, preserves, develops and directs matter (enteleschia, nous, Aristotelian mind, prime mover). Therefore, we must write not "space-time", but "SPACE-MATTER/MEMORY-TIME".
Therefore, the philosophical testament of Pavel Florensky is so important:
“The problem of space lies at the center of the worldview in all emerging systems of thought and predetermines the composition of the entire system. With certain restrictions and explanations, one could even recognize space as its own and primary subject of philosophy, in relation to which all others philosophical themes have to be assessed as derivatives. And the more tightly this or that system of thought is worked out, the more definite the peculiar interpretation of space becomes as its core. We repeat: worldunderstanding is spaceunderstanding."
Conclusion: to overcome the conceptual and paradigm crisis in the metaphysical / ontological basis of fundamental science, a big Ontological Revolution is needed. Physics must move from the stage "Phenomenological physics" to the stage "Ontological physics", that is, ontologically based physics. So is knowledge in general.
Hi LavenderBedbug, I just discovered and read your essay. I very much like how you tackle the essay competition question! Your assumption that
“a science that is fundamentally different from ours must be based on domains of knowledge other than physics “
is to the point and very good explained.
Indeed, a science of the mind may well be needed for science to make further progress. I like to invite you to read my own essay that is quite along the lines what you wrote. I also gave a solution to the problem of
“Then, there will be only one science, and we will have to ask the same question anew”
If you read my comments on my essay page, I propose a possible solution to the mind-body problem and to the problem of infinite regress and self-reference in any “theory of everything”.
I would be happy if you could take the time to read the comments as well as my essay and give me a feedback about my lines of reasoning!
Best wishes
AquamarineTapir
Interesting and original approach. Well written. I like the analysis with the physics of higher intelligences, having myself had an apparently unique experience of what that looks like. Some is consistent but some rather different to your and Glashows assumptions. I'd be interest in your views as to whether or not they really will 'merge' in terms of our current ruling doctrines. I think and hope they should and will, but current limits of thinking may preclude it! I express the subliminal info as an 'interview', and rather a precee of the full physics. I haven't found any falsified, but please do try. Well done for yours, and thanks for that valuable alternative approach.