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Dear Reader

People vote my essay because they see sense in it. Sure many of my friends vote my vision: "Physical Time is Run of Clocks".

My essay is of high quality. It shows clearly that universe is timeless, that there is no physical time as a part of space-time as an arena of the universe.

Arena of the universe is timeless space where physical time is run of clocks. With clocks we measure frequency, velocity and numerical order of material change. Unconscious observer experiences material change through the inner linear time based on neuronal dynamics. Because of that he sees time in physical world. Conscious (awakened) observer is aware of inner neuronal time. He experiences material change directly as they run in space. He is aware that clocks are reference mechanisms to measure materal change. This insight explain several experimental data which show that some physical phenomena can happen in time zero, means without even one "thick" of clock. Such physical phenomena are gravity, EPR experiment, immediate quantum energy and information transfer, see my essay or my other publications.

sincerely yours amrit

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Sum of public and community votation of my essay is:

7,6 3,2 = 10,8

Experts in statistic would say that this shows some statistic significance because seems to be highest amoung all essays

I celebrate this result. It shows my vision is on right path.

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Some more reflections

In timeless space physical events have no duration on its own. Duration is a result of measurment. This is quite impressive fact. Term "duration" has physical sense and value because of measurment itself.

Term "arrow of time" could be replaced with "arrow of change". In the universe change are physical reality and have a certain direction.

Immpressive is that grandma, son and grandson are born in the same timeless space and that travel in time is out of question. So grandson can never go into past and kill his grandma.

"Clocks/time" run slover in faster inertial system and in stronger gravity. Relativity of time as a measuring system and relativity of velocity of change is preserved.

Nothing happens in time, all happens in timeless space where before and after exist as numerical order of an event.

There is no contradiction in this vision. We have to abandon idea in physics that change run in time, we have no evidence for that. Time/clock is a reference system for measuring change. Time is not a medium of change, time is a measure of change.

"Time is Clock Run" functions. What functions is real. Functionality of scientific theory is the most important proof for its rightness.

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Hi Amrit you win ,congratulations

second Mr Petkov 9.7

3 Mr Dijksman ,,Joakin D M,5 Ray Munrue...after with 9.2 Mr Cirkovic er Mr Elze...9.0 P Jakson and Mr Prati ..8.9 Mr Grgin ....mainly.

Now what is the equation and parameters for the results ,I don't know ,

happy for you dear Amrit .

Steve

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Florin too has 8.9

Steve

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Dear Steve

When I was 30 it cames into my mind that universe is timeless. I wrote a book in Slowene lanquage "The End of Time" back in 1990. From 1990 on it took me 19 years to get that in timeless universe physical time still exists and it is run of clocks. This vision of time is in accord with experimental data and is pragmatic, it works. This vision requires "conscious observer" aware of inner neuronal time. When I sended my essay to FQXI I did not know yet of reserch done on "neuronal time". Actually already Godel mention "intuitive" time.

In physics we see through our mind. Mind determinates our experience of the universe. Conscious observer reaches beyond the mind into timeless nature of the universe. This fou sure is one of the ultimate goals of physics.

yours sincerely, amrit

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Measuring Physical Events with Natural and Artificial Clocks

Rotation of the Earth around axis and rotation of the Moon around Earth have been first natural clock. They served as a measuring reference system for plants growing. This first measuring formed in human brain neuronal time that has a cyclic form. Mayas and old Greeks experience universe and nature through cyclic neuronal time. With measuring plants growth has developed in man a sense of duration.

Christian-Jewish civilization has introduced idea if linear time. This idea has transformed cyclic neuronal time into linear neuronal time. Because of that in Western civilization we experience universe and life in as linear.

Neurophysiology confirms that our consequent linear experiencing of physical events is based on neuronal dynamics.

- Hitchcock. C. M., T-computers and the Origins of the Time in Brain, NeuroQuantology (2003); 4: 393-403 https://www.msu.edu/~hitchco4/Smh9.pdf

-Catalin V. Buhusi, Warren H. Meck, What makes us thick?, Functional and neural mechanisms of interval timing, Nature reviews, Volume 6, October 2005

With construction of artificial clocks idea has arisen in physics that clocks measure time as a physical reality in which motion happen. This idea has no experimental support. With discovery of inner neuronal time observer becomes aware that motion happens in space only and that physical time itself is run of clocks. This is the next step of physics: reaching beyond inner neuronal time and experience motion as it happens in the timeless space.

For better understanding of physical world we have to understand how our brain/mind process information about physical world we receive in senses.

Conscious observer is absolutely objective. He experiences universe directly without neuronal time interference. He is aware that duration of physical events is result of measuring them.

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Dear Florin

People all over the world voted my essay because it is a brake-through in physics. It shows clearly that conscious observer is reaching beyond neurophysiology-cal limitations of human mind. Conscious observer is experiencing motion directly as it runs in the universe. This experience is the key for development of physics. It is on FQXI to valuate my work. Also my community votes are good. If my essay is so popular must be some salt in it.

yours amrit

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Dear Reader

People are free to vote as they like. Also my essay got some publioc and community votation 1.

Regarding Barbour vision of time and mine there is a quite of difference.

He says that there is no time, that time is an ilusion. He try to develop physics without time.

My vision is timeless universe where time/clock is a measuring reference system. My vision is conscious observer aware of inner neuronal time. My theory on "Conscious Observer" is complete and works, it functions. My essay is about conscious observer and his distinquishing betwen models of the world and world itself. Research on time is just an application of the conscios observer as a research tool.

Why nobody mention this here, why so much negativity ? I would like a constructive debate on "conscious observer" and his potential in physics.

yours amrit

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Why Godel is right ?

In Special Theory of Relativity space and time are intrinsically linked, united into one manifold called "space-time". The three coordinates X1, X2 and X3 are spatial the fourth one X4 is temporal. Gödel introduced idea that X4 is spatial too. Profound analysis of the fourth coordinate shows that X4 is composed out of "c" light speed, imaginary number "i" and time "t" that represents "thick" of a clock:X4= ict. Time "t" that we gain with clocks describes numerical order of material changes. Clocks are reference systems for measuring frequency, velocity and numerical order of material changes. Gödel is right: fourth coordinate X4 is spatial too. Space itself is timeless. Mathematical time "t" is only an element of X4 and represents physical time that is run of clocks in timeless 4 dimensional space.

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PS

If Einstein would publish in 1905 a paper in Analen der Physic where he would interpret fourth dimension of space as a product of light speed and run of clocks, this today would be basic statement of physics.

If I would wrote an essay on FQXI where I would propose idea of forth dimension of space being time all would be against, would say that I have no basic knowledge about foundations of physics.

This is possible because of unconscious observer.

Conscious observer is the future of physics.

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Dear Amrit,

You wrote:

"If Einstein would publish in 1905 a paper in Analen der Physic ...".

Anal refers to the anus. Annum is the year. Physik is the German word for physics.

This does not matter. However the year 1905 is history. Now, there is no possibility that someone would do anything in this unreachable year, not even Albert Einstein. You meant, if he had published ...

You perhaps confused the tenses. The tense of a verb is the form which shows whether you refer to the past, the present, or the future.

In that you are in good company. Physicists like your idol Einstein even denied "the division into past, present and future".

You are claiming that time has to be replaced by velocity unless on follows the usual spacetime approach. I would like to strongly object unless we agree on restricting time to the only measurable time, i.e. to past time. Of course, on the abstract level we would need future time too.

Regards,

Eckard

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Dear Eckart, you say: You are claiming that time has to be replaced by velocity unless on follows the usual spacetime approach. I would like to strongly object unless we agree on restricting time to the only measurable time, i.e. to past time. Of course, on the abstract level we would need future time too.

No time has not to be replaced with anything.

Our vision should be replaced: we do not live in time. We live in space only. 4-th coordinate is spatial too.

Time/clock is a measuring system merely.

yours amritAttachment #1: Fourth_Coordinate_X4_is_Spatial_Too.pdf

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Eckard

So what if Amrit confused the tenses? Perhaps English is not his first language... and in any case, you also made a grammatical error with:

"You are claiming that time has to be replaced by velocity unless * on * follows the usual spacetime approach"

Interesting that you criticise someone else's grammar with bad grammar of your own.

Another thing: why do you end a sarcastic post which clearly has no regard for the author of this essay with the word 'Regards'?

Amrit

I agree - Time is a conceptual tool that we humans use to measure the rate of change in the spatial universe. My experience is that this sense of time can be stopped by becoming more conscious. It seems that time - as a physical reality - is really an illusion.

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Ps - to those of you that disagree with this, think deeply on the following:

We can all agree that 'time' consists of past, present, and future.

The continuous flow (which is what we mean when we say 'time') is broken when past and future are not there. Past can be removed - it is not a physical reality. It exists only in memory. Memory has no physical reality. It is just an idea, and a very unreliable one. Future is what? Imagination. Worse than memory. So what are we left with? Only the present moment is tangible. There is nothing else. Science needs to wake up to this. BE HERE NOW. The gulf between science and spirituality is diminishing. Amrit is doing a good thing with his work...

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Thank you anonymous

It is not a question of who is right,

it is a aquestion what is right.

Right is that that we live in space only and time is a measurment system.

I hope physics will take that fact in account.

yours sincerely amrit

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PS

if you are interested on collaboration on the subject bridging science and meditation, write me, you can also see my article here: "Bridging Observer and observed".

sorli.bistra@gmail.com

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Dear Amrit,

I did not intend a personal attack, and I apologize for my typo. My computer is sometimes rather slow and omits letters.

An anonymous supporter did deny the reality of the past. I reiterate:

All physical influence that contribute to integral effects are linked with the past, my mother my father, etc.

Past processes left traces, even very old fossils.

Nobody can change what happened.

Even what I am just doing belongs to the past, admittedly to the near past.

Anonymous, I ask you how many attoseconds spans the present?

Perhaps we all agree that the future is a mental construct with uncertain real background.

Do birds have consciousness? I observed they often when they were clever enough to open a nut by dropping it from the hight on a hard road.

Regards,

Eckard

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Dear Eckart

It is amazing and real that in space there is not past and future. In space is only change. We grow older in space only and with clocks we measure that.

The only time in space is NOW. And this now is eternal.

Eternity is contained in NOW.

In physics this as expressed with timeless space where time is run of clocks.

I believe that this insight will have immense influence of technology. It will make possible to create devices for taking energy directly from timeless space.

yours amrit

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Dear Amrit, dear Anomymous,

You did not answer my questions:

1) How many attoseconds is the timespan that Anonymous calls present?

2) Do birds have consciousness?

Did I get Amrit correct when I interpret his credo so that "time is a measurement system"? Isn't this pretty similar to Einstein's utterance "time is what clocks show"? Anyway, I would like to reiterate that it is absolutely impossible to measure future time.

I refuse to speculate whether or not space is eternal. Admittedly, I also prefer to be skeptical towards the religious idea of a creation by Him and/or a unique Big Bang.

However, if you Amrit believe having found something new and possibly important for the technology of power supply, then you are obliged to explain it. Go on please in order to avoid being suspected a charlatan. I am an old engineer having a lot of experience with power electronics, inventions and even reverse engineering.

Regards,

Eckard