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Paul, you confabulate curved coordinates with curved spaces. They are independent entities.

Parity Eotvos and parity calorimetry experiments could falsify vacuum isotropy at will. Classical and quantized gravitation theories, quantum mechanics, conservation of angular momentum could all be falsified at the founding postulate level for failing to include a chemical footnote. PHYSICS COULD BE WRONG without contradiction of any prior observation. Somebody should look.

Observation tests theory. Given points' relative coordinates Petitjean's (pdf) QCM calculates normalized geometric parity divergence CHI (0 to 1, fractional, achiral to perfect parity divergence), graph theory correspondences COR (1 to very large, as integers), and self-similarity DSI (0 to 1, fractional). With CHI asymptotic to one with COR = 1 and DSI = 0, CHI is a function of the eigenvalues of the inertia matrix; a connection among eigenvalues, special functions, their representation theory with solid angles, and exponentials of fractions of pi at a characteristic scale. Thence for glycine3.png attached,

log(1-CHI) = -2[log(radius)] [(180-alpha)(pi)/60] - (pi)

We calculated (attached glydense.png) glycine gamma-polymorph with every radial increment that includes more atoms, over a significant radius range ultimately containing 66.5 billion atoms. Extreme density calculation is in process to 35,000 A radius, 22.8 trillion atoms. Theory predicts 0.463385 intercept from 111.15 degrees chirality emergence angle (neutron crystallography). The maximally dense graph shown has 0.463609 intercept, good to 0.048% relative. The analysis is empirically valid. Observed reality is the only reality. Somebody should look.Attachment #1: 1_glydense.pngAttachment #2: 1_glycine3.png

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My post of Oct 12 got response from other the author of this essay. may be author has encouraged me on my essay but did not like to respond to me on his own essay.

I am poor in Organic chemistry that i use to dislike when in school. I just hated the long structural formula that i never could memorise. Later i did learn the logic behind but it was late as i chose Physics. Lately, i started to see that all branches of science are challenging if one likes to take the challenges. Author is determined in this respect. I suggest that he need to take the challenge of Leshan in his comments made in early Sept. Later, in a different way, Paul Butler paused a few points for author's consideration. It seems these challenges may be accepted by an enthusiastic author that we have . Besides he made useful comments on many other essays too. With this fraternity to back, he can certainly get his experimental plan executed. if it has not yet been covered, as claimed by some on this post that the matter has been settled as far as experiments are concerned.

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Al,

You are right that I do connect coordinates with space in a familiar way because coordinates are used by man to show relationships between motion entities that exist in space. They are used to show position, distance, direction, and change of position, etc. of such entities individually and in relation to each other as appropriate. In general space does not come equipped with such coordinates that man can discern, so man generates them artificially and imposes them onto space to allow the measurement of such things. In truth, in the sense that man uses them, the coordinates are not physical entities of themselves at all, but at best are merely constructed information similitudes of the underlying informational structure of the space that is generated by the dimensional system and the motion entities that exist within it. They can be used to fix for comparison such basic spatial information structures such as position, direction, and change of position in the spatial structure. In most cases this is not done in an absolute sense, but merely in relation to and between motion entities that exist in space. It is the basic dimensional system generated information structures such as position, direction, and change of position that really exist as parts of the structure of space and motion entities and are then stored in the motion entities that exist in that space. Man is not able to accurately directly access that information from the motion entities, so he generates the coordinate systems to allow external measurements of them and the resulting variations of them that are stored in and are a part of motion entities. Lines that are generated as parts of coordinate systems can be either straight or curved depending on the structure of the entity system to which they are applied. When they are applied to the surface of a two- dimensional flat plain they will generally be straight. When they are applied to the surface of a sphere they will be curved due to the three-dimensional curvature of its surface. In our world, curvature is not possible in a one-dimensional structure because it is a result of a combination of change of position in two or more dimensions simultaneously. The moon takes a curved path around the earth because its motion toward the center of the earth caused by gravity is combined with its motion in another direction (dimension) that would cause it to leave the earth in a straight line in the absence of gravity and the resulting two-dimensional change of position combination generates the curved path. A true one-dimensional world cannot possess curvature because curvature requires at least two dimensions for its generation. This is primarily because curvature requires the combination of two or more opposing motions or directional paths and in a one-dimensional world with bi-directional dimensions two opposing motions could only be at 180 degrees from each other and opposition at 180 degrees does not generate curvature. It would generally only result in a slowing down somewhat of the greater motion or if the two motions were equal it would result in a stable position with no motion. Curved spaces can only properly accept curved coordinates. Flat spaces with two or more dimensions can accept either flat or curved coordinates, but flat coordinates generally work better for most purposes. The structure of the boundary of finite flat spaces can make a difference, as an example. I hope you can understand this somewhat disjointed explanation. Much of dimensional structuring is beyond man's current acceptance threshold and much if the rest is currently not for dissemination into the local structure, so I have tried to give what I can at the level that I can, so it contains approximations to full concepts and lack of details and connections of details in logical sequencing in some areas, etc.

The other paragraphs are somewhat clearer than before. What such things as QCM, CHI, DSI, etc. mean is only given in the Petitjean paper that you attached, however. I like to at least define the meaning of such mnemonics and the terms of mathematical expressions, etc. at least once at their first introduction of them in a communication, so new readers can follow my meaning. CHI is also the Chinese word for universal energy among other things. Even the Petitjean paper that is designed more for mathematicians defined the mnemonics. Papers designed for more general audiences or even other scientists that might not work in the same field or be as specialized in your area of your field as you are, should explain concepts first in relatively simple terms and then advance to the degree necessary to get your point across. If the other person doesn't understand what you are saying, you can't expect him to be on your side. He will more likely either ignore you, or speak against you to save face for his lack of understanding. Man has many such weaknesses. If you speak about something that is beyond man's acceptance threshold, you will usually get the same result even if you present your point in simple language, but lucky for you, your point is not beyond that level and is somewhat in line with others. Some physicists may not have the chemistry background that you have, however, so it would be good to explain how you get from matter particles being left handed and anti-matter particles being right handed, which most of them will understand, to what left handed and right handed molecules are, their connection to the same parity and symmetry principles, etc., and how they can be used to test to see if they fall differently in a gravitational field, etc. In general the more difficult you make your language structure, the fewer people you will reach. If you get them to understand and follow you, you will have adequate time later to impress them with all of the intimate details and abstract math formulas, etc., if you so desire. I am telling you these things because you are trying to get support from others to get the funds to do your experiment and you will need to get others to understand your concepts to convince them to support you. I feel for you. I know how hard it can be to simplify your language so others can understand when you have been used to working on the concepts at a much higher level and have made many language short cuts, etc., so you can work faster. It is a skill that will pay off greatly if you can master it though. My situation here is much easier than yours because my purpose is to only give basic concepts in a simple form to see if anyone can pick them up and develop them in detail. The only hard part of this limited interaction phase is the analysis of the resultant data, but so far it is pretty much as I suspected based on the results of the observational phase of the study.

Do opposite shoes falsify the Equivalence Principle?

Prior observation allows either result.

Geometric parity divergence is quantitative (Petitjean).

Enantiomorphic quartz single crystals are commercial.

A parity Eotvos experiment runs SOP.

Somebody should look.

33 words. Eveverything else (pdf) is excuses.

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Al,

A group in Vienna just demonstrated interference with C60 Buckyballs. I was just wondering if your left hand and right hand crystals would interfere with themselves differently in an experiment like this.

Just a thought.

Don L.

http://www.jfreire.com/c60/c60.htm, Nature 401 680 (1999), Phys. Rev. Lett 91 90408 (2003), http://www.univie.ac.at/qfp/research/matterwave/TPPC60F48/index.html

Enantiomorphic crystals would have no differential effect on C60 in point group Ih. A sock, C_60, cannot detect the difference between left and right feet. There are at least six extreme parity divergent fullerenes: C_42, C_52, C_92, and C100 each in point group T (not Th or Td); C_140, C_160 each in point group I (not Ih). Each of the six wholly lacks mirror planes, an inversion point, and all other improper (rotation-reflection, e.g., S_4 of a baseball seam) symmetry elements. Each of them calculates through Petitejan's QCM as CHI=1, COR=1, DSI = 0.

I've talked with the matterwave group about molecular beam diffraction experiments of two kinds. First, diffract resolved twistane, C_10H_16 . Does it racemize by passage through the slits? Mechanism there would be recombination of mirrored wavefunctions after passage. Does it racemize via Hund's Paradox? Phys. Rev. Lett. 103 023202 (2009), Z. Phys. D 37 333 (1996). Their opinion is "no racemization," though they haven't looked.

Second, supersonically expand into hard vacuum helium seeded with semibullvalene, C_8H_8. Make the slits alternating CVD Peltier heater/coolers. The cryogenic molecular beam diffracts with paired wavefunctions at two different temperatures. How will they recombine given rate of degenerate rearrangement is exponentially dependent upon absolute temperature?

The group would like to diffract a virus small enough to be sprayed or desorbed into a molecular beam. Hund's paradox is locked out by molecular complexity. Racemization by mirror wavefuction recombination is a very remote possibility. Small simple molecules like twistane, cold semibullvalene, or hot bullvalene are better probes for these unlikely but intensely interesting outcomes.

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Al,

1. Thanks, that was very informative about matter wave experiments. From what I could gather, there is interest in chiral particles but no interference experiments have been done to date. I think I got that right?

2. How come they do not use a lower velocity? If they used 20 m/s instead of 200 m/s the wavelength would be 10 times longer and the grating not so hard to fab. I have an interest in slow speed particles and was thinking that you just may know why.

3. Chiral-ity is basic, and you have reminded us that grand theories must account for it. I like the spice you have added to this forum.

Thanks again,

Don L.

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Dear Alan,

About your essay, you state: "vacuum isotropy and the Equivalence Principle - can be empirically falsified without contradicting prior observations in any venue at any scale". Is this right? Suppose I am weighting an apple and a banana. Put them next to each other so they form the letter L. Now swap their position and create the mirror image of L. The parity is now reversed, but still they weight the same amount (at least in my grocery store). So here is a trivial counter-example to your "in any venue at any scale" statement. Everyone already looked. The only thing one can do is to now improve the accuracy of the experiments. But the same argument applies to all experimental physics.

Florin

C60 is not volatile. A hot molecular beam avoids deposition.

Physics postulates reality and its mirror image are identical in outcome; extrinsic and emergent properties are not fundamental. Only strong interactions are observed to behave. Torque, right hand rules, parity conservation violation (Weak interaction), teleparallel gravitation... are not mirror-symmetric.

Physics demands cubes describe parallelepipeds. V = a^3 requires patching if V = (abc)sqrt[(1 - cos^2(alpha) - cos^2(beta) - cos^2(gamma) - 2cos(alpha)cos(beta)cos(gamma)]. Unlike all other essays, my entry offers two calculated experiments in existing apparatus challenging two founding postulates of the entire discipline. Physics academics are white-hot with rage (and blind to chemistry). 420 years of Equivalence Principle testing obtained perfect nulls. Academics fear the first success. As for voting... Uncle Al is a Mensan, 100,000 people of high intelligence worldwide. Word gets around for the modest ramp up, then smell the fear.

Benzil enthalpy of fusion - secondary standard for calibrating calorimeters - must be consistent outside parity test circumstances, allowing less than 10^(-12) EP divergence. An L (properly a scalene triangle) is 3D achiral. Configure 27 ball bearings for perfect parity divergence, stereogram. At scales smaller than four adjacent balls obtain zero chirality. Use single atoms not ball bearings, thus the parity Eotvos experiment in quartz or gamma-glycine and the parity calorimetry experiment in benzil. No smaller chiral emergence scale self-similarly repeated to centimeter dimensions is possible. Somebody should look.

Florin said, "Everyone already looked. The only thing one can do is to now improve the accuracy of the experiments." *Nobody* has performed a calculated geometric parity EP test. 5x10^(-14) difference/average Eotvos balance sensitivity is entirely adequate.Attachment #1: 1_look.png