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What is ultimately possible in physics is dependent upon (and relates to) the natural, integrated, and interactive extensiveness of being, experience, thought, gravity, and electromagnetism/light in and with time. Reality must be understood (in varying degrees, of course) as involving (or pertaining to) what is the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including thought). Dreams improve upon the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, and thought. This is what is described by the addition of a fourth dimension of space that unites Einstein's theory of gravity and Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism/light. I have proven (in detail and with specifics) that the dream fundamentally unifies gravity and electromagnetism/light. With the fourth dimension of space being added, what is then described is thought that is more like sensory experience in general. The dream makes thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light). The ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sense is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience. Dreams unify gravity and electromagnetism/light by involving what is the [gravitational and electromagnetic/light] mid-range of feeling between thought and sense; as dreams involve a fundamental integration and spreading of being and experience at the mid-range of feeling between thought and sense. Gravity and electromagnetism/light are both attractive and repulsive in the dream. The totality of experience/the system has to be considered. Gravity and electromagnetism/light are fundamental to life. They are unified in the dream. This essay includes the full contents of my previously published article entitled The Dream Fundamentally Balances and Unifies Gravity and Electromagnetism. Important and additional clarification/proof and content has been added in this essay.

Author Bio

I have a Bachelor of Science degree (cum laude) in Geography and Environmental Planning from Towson University (1987). I am finishing my second book. I write about topics in physics, philosophy, and psychology. My first book has been accepted and catalogued at public library branches and universities.

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The known union of gravity and electromagnetism/light -- in the fourth dimension of space that unites Einsten's theory of gravity with Maxwell's theory of light/electromagnetism -- must be understood as balancing scale by making gravity both repulsive and attractive as electromagnetic energy/light.

I have demonstrated/proven beyond any shadow of a doubt THAT THIS OCCURS IN DREAMS.

Regarding what is included about ASTRONOMICAL/TELESCOPIC OBSERVATIONS in this essay:

1. They are interactive creations of thought, to a significant extent.

2. Astronomical observations involve a relative detachment, disintegration, and contraction of vision/visual experience as they relate to space, experience, and thought generally.

3. The redshift is related to being in an increasingly transparent/invisible space. Astronomical observations have significant similarities with dreams.

Consider this in conjunction with "dark matter"/"dark energy".

4. Consideration should be given to the fact that the eye has a transparent (or clear) space that adjoins the black space within the eye. This is to be directly compared with the adjoining transparent (and clear) sky and the black space (i.e., outer space) in which the sun is located.

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The full contents of this essay and http://radicalacademy.com/studentrefphilfmd10.htm

In keeping with the fact that dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light), the ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sense is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sense. This is consistent with the known mathematical unification of Einstein's theory of gravity (general relativity) with Maxwell's theory of light (electromagnetism) that is achieved by the addition of a fourth dimension of space to Einstein's theory.

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So many fail to grasp the interactive nature of being, experience, and thought. (This essay discusses telescopic/astronomical observations as well.) Consider the following please.

Astronomical observations are interactive creations of thought, to a significant extent. Astronomical observations involve a relative detachment, disintegration, and contraction of vision/visual experience as they relate to space, experience, and thought generally. Astronomical observations have significant similarities with dreams. Astronomical observations and dreams involve a narrowing/"telescoping" of vision. The redshift is indicative of increased gravity due to increased transparency/invisibility of space. Consider how the the setting Sun appears at a 90 degree angle in relation to gravity (overhead) -- red and in a transparent sky. Astronomical observations necessarily increase the size of what is seen, or nothing could be seen at all. The red shift is a reduction in energy/brightness; since an object that is farther away, and yet larger/visible, necessarily involves higher gravity.

Now consider the blackness of outer space, the position of red light on the visible light spectrum, and transparent/clear space. Consider this in relation to the black and clear/invisible spaces of the eye. Consider all of this in relation to "dark matter/"dark energy".

Dreams are visible (to the person having the dream) and yet invisible (to others). Moreover, while the body is generally or significantly absent/invisible in dreams, touch and the sight of the body may occur as well.

The body is invisible and visible -- the clear space of the eye is where vision begins, and this is of (and within) the body. Vision begins as invisible/transparent space inside the eye (and body).

What is ultimately possible in physics (including mathematically) is necessarily tied to the integrated, interactive, and natural extensiveness of being, thought, and [sensory] experience. In fact, reality must be understood (in varying degrees, of course) as pertaining to (or involving) what is the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including thought).

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by making gravity repulsive and attractive as electromagnetic energy/light is required. I have proven this in dreams conclusively. You have to read my essay patiently and carefully. The union of gravity and electromagnetism/light balances/unifies scale by making gravity both repulsive and attractive as electromagnetic energy/light. I have clearly and thoroughly demonstrated electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space.

Have you ever considered that gravity IS relatively attractive on Earth, and yet it is relatively repulsive in relation to the Sun (considering the planets that is, of course). This is the way to go in unifying gravity and electromagnetism/light. I discuss this in my essay as well.

Dreams are most definitely in the domain of physics; for starters, the sensory experience in the dream is undeniable.

What do you think is the physical/real/actual basis behind the mathematically proven union of gravity and electromagnetism/light in a fourth dimension of space? Is this not central to any TOE and to the mathematical basis therefore?

Such a union must be (and is) plainly and significantly evident in our experience. Indeed, I have proven this.

There is no getting around the following as well:

In keeping with the fact that dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light), the ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sense is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sense. This is consistent with the known mathematical unification of Einstein's theory of gravity (general relativity) with Maxwell's theory of light (electromagnetism) that is achieved by the addition of a fourth dimension of space to Einstein's theory. Just as this unification comes/came as a surprise, so does the physical basis therefore.

Your thoughtful and mature questions/comments are very welcome. Frank

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Dear Frank,

This is a response to questions that you posted on my blog site. I removed any potentially objectionable material.

Thank you for your interest and questions.

1) Look at history. Theodor Kaluza unified gravity and electromagnetism in 5 dimensions, but did not include the nuclear forces. I did not invent the idea of unseen dimensions. Honestly, I didn't even seriously consider these multi-dimensional ideas until recent years.

I equate rank with dimensionality. We see 4 dimensions, and the first four (ranked) charges are 1) color_g3, 2) color_g8, 3) hyperflavor and 4) weak isospin. The first four ranks (dimensions) do not include a graviton charge!That's OK if gravity is just a 4-D curvature effect without a graviton, but then a full unification of QED and quantum gravity is impossible.

I also equate dimensional collapse with broken symmetries. We MUST have at least one broken symmetry (I count 8 - perhaps from an 8-D octonion of hyperspace or N=8 Supersymmetry) or else we would be living in the TOE universe (and all coupling constants would be simple, predictable multiples of each other - they aren't). Therefore there must be at least 5 (I count 12) dimensions.

I also think that 8-D octonions are relevant to General Relativity because an octonion contains the 10 antisymmetric tensors of Einstein's Field Equations.

2) At the Big Bang, there may have been an Electro-Gravity union, but you won't hear me call it that because those are different branes and different spaces (regular spacetime vs. hyperspace). You will see me call the unions Electro-Color (3-D space) and Gravi-Hyperflavor-Weak (hyperspace plus time) for a complete Electro-Color-Gravi-Hyperflavor-Weak union. It is a little complicated, but you are welcome to read my essay.

Personally, I think we should agree to disagree. I still think you need more math and data in your presentations.

Have Fun!

Ray Munroe

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Hello dear Frank and dr cosmic Ray ,

Your essay is very good about the phylosophical point of vue .

That said ,I don't understand how you can say what the gravity is repulsive or attractive ,the grvity is always attractive dear Frank ,really .

If you said what the electromagnetism and the gravity interacts in an evolution point of vue ,it could be more pragmatic in my opinion if a balance is made between gravity and electromagnetism .

About the dream ,there too a balance is necessary ,it exists many kind of dreams ,....perhaps it could be better if you analyze and insert the memory ,universal and specifics .....perhaps some links with a pragmatic dream is possible .But a link too must be made with the creativity .

An other point if the relativity and the utilisation of fourth dimension ,there too a balance is needed because our local gravitational systems are in 3D more a constant ,the time which builds ,and the gravity there is attractive .

It could be well too if you insert the synchronization of polarisations with the brain and its proteinic systems ,too with the evolution point of vue and the very weak interactions .

There the rotations too are relevant about some synchronisations .The synapses and the two hemispheres ,where the imagination and the pragmatism are ,can be too correlated with rationality .

Regards

Steve

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Dear Frank I have some ideas for you .

It's the same with our Earth ,when we see the evolution and the begining 13.7 billions years to 15 ago .

The Earth is a spherical system with a center ,this center is very important ,we are the result of a specific polarisations in time ,the codes of informations are thus very important inside the main centers of particles .

Thus you can imagine a system between centers and electromagnetism .

Correlated with the center of our Earth ,the center of our sun ,the center of our galaxy and the center of our universe ,and the centers of our brais in the quantum achitecture .After you insert the geometry and class the polarities thus the senses too .

There you are going to have a system of polarisations with limits ,thus you can insert the polarisations of our perceptible system more the universal memory .

Don't forget too to make a balance with actual paremetrs ,psychologic ,economic,geographic,evolutif,....there the dreams nd creativities inside the brain system must be balanced like an algorythm of superimposings and sortings with fundamenatsl of physics .

Sincerely

Steve

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Hi Steve and Ray.

What certain essay contestants on here fail to realize is that time has 3 parts -- past, present, and future. Any TOE must not only address the integrated extensiveness of experience in general, but it must address this as well. You cannot have a TOE whereby time is dimininished, in other words. The integrated extensiveness of being/thought/experience must address the integrated extensiveness of time. The totality of time must be understood in conjunction with, and inseparable from, the present. Physics, to date, has failed miserably at this.

The ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sense is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience.

This is a FACT, and it is perfectly written. The limits of both physics and the understanding in general cannot be properly understood apart from this central and most important idea.

The mathematical union of gravity AND electromagnetism/light with the addition of a fourth dimension of space to Einstein's theory is undeniable. The physical reality, structure, and sensory experience of this unification occurs in/as dream experience. Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light). To think that the unification of Einstein's theory of gravity and Maxwell's theory of light is not plainly and significantly apparent in our experience is one of the greatest blunders/omissions of common sense that has ever occurred.

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by making gravity repulsive and attractive as electromagnetic energy/light is required. I have clearly and thoroughly demonstrated this, including demonstrating electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space (in the experience of dreams). The unification/balancing/inclusion of both invisible and visible space in dreams is central to balancing/unifying scale in conjunction with space manifesting both gravititationally and electromagnetically. You have to read, and very carefully consider, my entire essay (including my three posts above).

Hello Frank,

I have downloaded your essay, and will read and comment. At the point I have a settled opinion about it, I will make a rating. My first thought, looking at the abstract and opening comments, is that we'll likely have some things to agree on, and other areas where I will remain unconvinced. But I will suspend judgment until I've had a chance to digest your words a bit.

I once wrote a more philosophical essay on reality and fantasy, which concluded that fantasy, dreams, and imagination were in some ways more real than material existence - as they have the power to shape what we do. Dreams contain our hopes and aspirations, our inspiration and motivation. Of course dreams are important, and perhaps essential to advances in Science, especially Physics - which pushes the envelope, and peels back the barriers of what can be known. This is especially true of Theoretical Physics.

So I will read your essay, and let the ideas sink in a while before I comment. Maybe I'll sleep on it, before saying anything. But then you may be confident that I will comment. I will separately post an answer to the several questions posed on my page (most likely sooner), in that forum.

All the Best,

Jonathan

Greetings Frank,

I wanted you to know that I finished reading your essay, and found it interesting. Some of the connections to Physics were tenuous, at best, but many of the ideas you suggest would be interesting to explore, or are helpful. And you make a good point that Science, in general, benefits from the perspective offered by dreams.

I liked the idea of talking about the narrowing of the view provided by the telescope, and the analogy with the narrowing of focus in dreams - that was splendid. But there is a difference - if you move the telescope a certain angle away and then the reverse angle back, you will end up back on the original target (assuming you don't wait long, or compensate for movement of the stars over time). However, with dreams you have a non-commutative geometry - where going back a similar distance in the opposite direction will not bring you back to the same place.

On (non-commutative geometer) Alain Connes' web-site, he devotes a page to advice for young Mathematicians, and one suggestion is not to underestimate the importance of the 'hard work' done while lying flat on the back or daydreaming during a walk in the woods.

There were some inconsistencies with my experience in your essay, for example in the area of fatigue which is present in some of my dreams and absent in others. I will actually sleep on it, before I say more, but I'll certainly have a few more comments to offer.

All the Best,

Jonathan

Hello again Frank,

I will have some more comments, after a brief review. I'll have to get to that in a bit. But I was wondering if you had noticed the essay of Daegene Song, which claims to show through Quantum Mechanics that only the subjective experience of the universe exists.

And it looks from a quick glance like it touches on some of the same things you do. I'd have to actually read it to know for sure. But that won't happen right away. I'll be back here later, though.

All the Best,

Jonathan

4 days later

Hi Jonathan.

In reply to my prior posts at your essay page, you have now said:

"I just re-read your second post above and it made a bit more sense of something you were saying in the earlier post. Your statement at the end "How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea." is right on. Perhaps the key, as you say, is to recognize that there is both an attractive and repulsive component at work - which changes the effective action at different levels of scale. This makes unification simpler."

"We end up 1) Balancing/unifying scale and 2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravitationally and electromagnetically. (Think wave/particle)."

Consider the above when reading/considering my essay, and in keeping with what dreams are/involve as well; as I have definitively demonstrated the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light in/as dream experience (in and with time as well).

Dream experience is sensory experience, and it involves/includes physics (for many other reasons as well). The dream is real. What is ultimately possible in physics (including mathematically) is necessarily tied to the integrated, interactive, and natural extensiveness of being, thought, and [sensory] experience. In fact, reality must be understood (in varying degrees, of course) as pertaining to (or involving) what is the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including thought).

Dreams include and involve opposites, thereby adding to the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, and thought. Indeed, this is why dream experience is considerably different from waking experience. Importantly (and fundamentally) gravity and electromagnetism are understood as adding to the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including space and thought).

Consider this:

Visually, the universal experience of the body is one of visual transparency (i.e., invisibility). Accordingly, when our bodies are visually distinguishable (or visible), then each of our visible experiences of the body (and of everything else for that matter) must necessarily be different (or unique); and individuals are then visually distinguishable as well. Since all of our bodies are visually transparent (or invisible), each of our bodies (considered individually) must necessarily be different when visible. Since the experience of the body is both visible and invisible, the visible experience of the body is necessarily changing (or inconstant), unique, and finite. The disintegration of the visual experience when an object is close to the eyes is demonstrative of the relationship between visibility and invisibility. The visible appearance of the body (including that of experience in general) is relatively unique, finite, and limited. (This conclusion is also in keeping with the fact that thought and vision are necessarily different.) The thoughtful understanding of the visible is properly understood as variable and finite in relation to the totality of experience, including that of the body.

Thoughts and emotions are differentiated feelings. Our thoughts, emotions, and feelings are largely (or often) indiscernible to others in keeping with the fact that the body is transparent (or invisible inside the eye). Since the body is visually transparent (that is, the interior of the body and eye are experienced as invisible), what follows is made all the more clear. Since there is a proportionate reduction of both thought and feeling during dreams, the experience of the body is generally (or significantly) lacking; for thought is fundamentally rendered more like sensory experience in general. By involving the mid-range of feeling between thought and sense, dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general. The reduction in the range and extensiveness of feeling during dreams is why there is less memory and thought therein; and it is also significant that the unborn child is carried in the center of the body. Dreams involve a fundamental integration and spreading of being and experience at the mid-range of feeling between thought and sense. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general, we would be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are.

This duality (i.e., visible and invisible) of our visual experience lends itself to our concealment, the use of costumes, etc.; and it is an indispensable part of our growth and of our becoming other than we are as well. The experience of the body as being generally present (while waking), while also recollecting the body as being generally or significantly lacking (including visually) during the dream becomes more understandable. The visual experience of the body during dreams is generally variable, inconsistent, and lacking due to (that is, in part, and consistent with) the fact that the totality of the visual experience is closer when dreaming. The transparency of vision is an essential element of the totality of visual experience. Experience is not visually determinable or predictable, because experience is not visual in its essence.

Consider this sentence: "The disintegration of the visual experience when an object is close to the eyes is demonstrative of the relationship between visibility and invisibility." in relation to particle/wave; the interactive nature of thought, being, and experience; and dreams.

Consider the cylindrical aspect of dream experience as well.

You do now agree that my essay is original, important, and correct in unifying gravity and electromagnetism? If not, why (specifically please)?

I will check out Mr. Song's essay. It sounds interesting. Thank you.

Kindly consider the importance, as well, of the increased transparency/invisibility of space in astronomical/telescopic observations. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. Frank

Here are my two prior posts (that are referenced at the top of this post), for your ready reference:

Hi Jonathan. Your essay raises some interesting and needed points.

Kindly consider, and reply to, the following:

1) If we could demonstrate a balancing of scale whereby gravity and electromagnetism/light are repulsive and attractive (on balance), then that would be a big step forward in physics.

2) Balance and completeness go hand-in-hand, in theory and in life.

3) ASTRONOMICAL/TELESCOPIC OBSERVATIONS:

Astronomical observations are interactive creations of thought, to a significant extent. Astronomical observations involve a relative detachment, disintegration, and contraction of vision/visual experience as they relate to space, experience, and thought generally. Astronomical observations have significant similarities with dreams. Astronomical observations and dreams involve a narrowing/"telescoping" of vision. The redshift is indicative of increased gravity due to increased transparency/invisibility of space. Consider how the the setting Sun appears at a 90 degree angle in relation to gravity (overhead) -- red and in a transparent sky. Astronomical observations necessarily increase the size of what is seen, or nothing could be seen at all. The red shift is a reduction in energy/brightness; since an object that is farther away, and yet larger/visible, necessarily involves higher gravity.

Now consider the blackness of outer space, the position of red light on the visible light spectrum, and transparent/clear space. Consider this in relation to the black and clear/invisible spaces of the eye. Consider all of this in relation to "dark matter/"dark energy".

Dreams are visible (to the person having the dream) and yet invisible (to others). Moreover, while the body is generally or significantly absent/invisible in dreams, touch and the sight of the body may occur as well.

The body is invisible and visible -- the clear space of the eye is where vision begins, and this is of (and within) the body. Vision begins as invisible/transparent space inside the eye (and body).

5) The integrated extensiveness of being and experience not only go hand-in-hand, but also in and with time as well. You are correct on the fundamental importance of time.

I believe that the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general.

Kindly consider rating and commenting on my essay. My three posts under the essay are important as well. Thank you for your kind consideration.

I want us to bounce some ideas back and forth. I think that we can make some good headway. Any questions that you have regarding your essay are most welcome. Frank

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Hi Jonathan. Your essay might be in agreement with the following post. Is it?

Consider the nuclear strong force and gravitation in light of the following:

The unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general. I agree with the geometrical approach -- the mathematically proven outcome in a fourth dimension of space -- as it has unified gravity and electromagnetism/light.

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by demonstrating gravity as repulsive and attractive AS electromagnetic energy/light is required. It is critical to demonstrate electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space. The unification/balancing/inclusion of both invisible and visible space is central to:

1) Balancing/unifying scale and...

2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravititationally and electromagnetically. Think wave/particle.

These ideas need to be applied to atomic structure/interactions, and to electromagnetism/light and gravity generally. How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea.

ATTN ALL:

The essay that should win is the one that best advances (fundamentally and originally) the understanding of sensory experience (including gravity and electromagnetism) IN GENERAL.

The ratings are unfair in this contest. You can see the: "I scratch your back, and you scratch mine" mentality in the catering, superficial, hollow, and fake exchanges of "pleasantries" which certain essayists are selling/peddling.

This essay contest should be more about aggressive and sustained (yet civil, of course) objections and disagreements.

I will now teach you all about great meaning and significance in physics.

Moreover, my essay is relatively ignored, and it is rated incompetently and unfairly. I will now prove all of this (and definitively) in this post.

Hi Jonathan.

In reply to my prior posts at your essay page, you have now said:

"I just re-read your second post above and it made a bit more sense of something you were saying in the earlier post. Your statement at the end "How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea." is right on. Perhaps the key, as you say, is to recognize that there is both an attractive and repulsive component at work - which changes the effective action at different levels of scale. This makes unification simpler."

"We end up 1) Balancing/unifying scale and 2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravitationally and electromagnetically. (Think wave/particle)."

Consider the above when reading/considering my essay, and in keeping with what dreams are/involve as well; as I have definitively demonstrated the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light in/as dream experience (in and with time as well).

Dream experience is sensory experience, and it involves/includes physics (for many other reasons as well). The dream is real. What is ultimately possible in physics (including mathematically) is necessarily tied to the integrated, interactive, and natural extensiveness of being, thought, and [sensory] experience. In fact, reality must be understood (in varying degrees, of course) as pertaining to (or involving) what is the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including thought).

Dreams include and involve opposites, thereby adding to the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, and thought. Indeed, this is why dream experience is considerably different from waking experience. Importantly (and fundamentally) gravity and electromagnetism are understood as adding to the integrated extensiveness of being and experience (including space and thought).

Consider this:

Visually, the universal experience of the body is one of visual transparency (i.e., invisibility). Accordingly, when our bodies are visually distinguishable (or visible), then each of our visible experiences of the body (and of everything else for that matter) must necessarily be different (or unique); and individuals are then visually distinguishable as well. Since all of our bodies are visually transparent (or invisible), each of our bodies (considered individually) must necessarily be different when visible. Since the experience of the body is both visible and invisible, the visible experience of the body is necessarily changing (or inconstant), unique, and finite. The disintegration of the visual experience when an object is close to the eyes is demonstrative of the relationship between visibility and invisibility. The visible appearance of the body (including that of experience in general) is relatively unique, finite, and limited. (This conclusion is also in keeping with the fact that thought and vision are necessarily different.) The thoughtful understanding of the visible is properly understood as variable and finite in relation to the totality of experience, including that of the body.

Thoughts and emotions are differentiated feelings. Our thoughts, emotions, and feelings are largely (or often) indiscernible to others in keeping with the fact that the body is transparent (or invisible inside the eye). Since the body is visually transparent (that is, the interior of the body and eye are experienced as invisible), what follows is made all the more clear. Since there is a proportionate reduction of both thought and feeling during dreams, the experience of the body is generally (or significantly) lacking; for thought is fundamentally rendered more like sensory experience in general. By involving the mid-range of feeling between thought and sense, dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general. The reduction in the range and extensiveness of feeling during dreams is why there is less memory and thought therein; and it is also significant that the unborn child is carried in the center of the body. Dreams involve a fundamental integration and spreading of being and experience at the mid-range of feeling between thought and sense. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general, we would be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are.

This duality (i.e., visible and invisible) of our visual experience lends itself to our concealment, the use of costumes, etc.; and it is an indispensable part of our growth and of our becoming other than we are as well. The experience of the body as being generally present (while waking), while also recollecting the body as being generally or significantly lacking (including visually) during the dream becomes more understandable. The visual experience of the body during dreams is generally variable, inconsistent, and lacking due to (that is, in part, and consistent with) the fact that the totality of the visual experience is closer when dreaming. The transparency of vision is an essential element of the totality of visual experience. Experience is not visually determinable or predictable, because experience is not visual in its essence.

Consider this sentence: "The disintegration of the visual experience when an object is close to the eyes is demonstrative of the relationship between visibility and invisibility." in relation to particle/wave; the interactive nature of thought, being, and experience; and dreams.

Consider the cylindrical aspect of dream experience as well.

You do now agree that my essay is original, important, and correct in unifying gravity and electromagnetism? If not, why (specifically please)?

I will check out Mr. Song's essay. It sounds interesting. Thank you.

Kindly consider the importance, as well, of the increased transparency/invisibility of space in astronomical/telescopic observations. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. Frank

Here are my two prior posts (that are referenced at the top of this post), for your ready reference:

Hi Jonathan. Your essay raises some interesting and needed points.

Kindly consider, and reply to, the following:

1) If we could demonstrate a balancing of scale whereby gravity and electromagnetism/light are repulsive and attractive (on balance), then that would be a big step forward in physics.

2) Balance and completeness go hand-in-hand, in theory and in life.

3) ASTRONOMICAL/TELESCOPIC OBSERVATIONS:

Astronomical observations are interactive creations of thought, to a significant extent. Astronomical observations involve a relative detachment, disintegration, and contraction of vision/visual experience as they relate to space, experience, and thought generally. Astronomical observations have significant similarities with dreams. Astronomical observations and dreams involve a narrowing/"telescoping" of vision. The redshift is indicative of increased gravity due to increased transparency/invisibility of space. Consider how the the setting Sun appears at a 90 degree angle in relation to gravity (overhead) -- red and in a transparent sky. Astronomical observations necessarily increase the size of what is seen, or nothing could be seen at all. The red shift is a reduction in energy/brightness; since an object that is farther away, and yet larger/visible, necessarily involves higher gravity.

Now consider the blackness of outer space, the position of red light on the visible light spectrum, and transparent/clear space. Consider this in relation to the black and clear/invisible spaces of the eye. Consider all of this in relation to "dark matter/"dark energy".

Dreams are visible (to the person having the dream) and yet invisible (to others). Moreover, while the body is generally or significantly absent/invisible in dreams, touch and the sight of the body may occur as well.

The body is invisible and visible -- the clear space of the eye is where vision begins, and this is of (and within) the body. Vision begins as invisible/transparent space inside the eye (and body).

5) The integrated extensiveness of being and experience not only go hand-in-hand, but also in and with time as well. You are correct on the fundamental importance of time.

I believe that the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general.

Kindly consider rating and commenting on my essay. My three posts under the essay are important as well. Thank you for your kind consideration.

I want us to bounce some ideas back and forth. I think that we can make some good headway. Any questions that you have regarding your essay are most welcome. Frank

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Hi Jonathan. Your essay might be in agreement with the following post. Is it?

Consider the nuclear strong force and gravitation in light of the following:

The unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general. I agree with the geometrical approach -- the mathematically proven outcome in a fourth dimension of space -- as it has unified gravity and electromagnetism/light.

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by demonstrating gravity as repulsive and attractive AS electromagnetic energy/light is required. It is critical to demonstrate electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space. The unification/balancing/inclusion of both invisible and visible space is central to:

1) Balancing/unifying scale and...

2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravititationally and electromagnetically. Think wave/particle.

These ideas need to be applied to atomic structure/interactions, and to electromagnetism/light and gravity generally. How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea.

Hello Frank,

Thank you for your many comments. I agree we have a lot to talk about. I re-read part of your essay earlier today, and understood some things I did not before. The comments above also clarify some of your points. I don't have time to address all the comments tonight, though, and probably not all for a while, as I'll be away from my computer. I will try to respond to the briefer comment left on my essay page, beforehand.

I think I'm starting to get a sense of your essay's message, and it's pretty cool. Dreams are a distillation of the waking experience, but something more too. They offer us freedoms we don't have in waking reality, but their reality is restricted too - as with the telescope analogy. When we're out during sleep our bodies are subject to gravity, and our mind wanders free. Perhaps in waking state it is the reverse. We can move our body, but our minds are subject to gravity.

And I can see there is a connection of electromagnetic and gravitic forces to be explored. I'm not sure if your construction, passes the test, yet. But I think you are on to something. Perhaps a balancing of forces by allowing both attraction and repulsion, and varying with scale, offers a possibility to unify things that has not been explored. It seems to be vaguely similar to what Narendra Nath is writing about.

I will definitely return to this thread when I can, as I think there is a lot of interesting ground to explore. Off for now to my page to respond there, and to perhaps one other thread, then off for a while.

All the Best,

Jonathan

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ATTN: ALL I will now prove that how space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is THE central and MOST valuable physical idea.

The reduction in the range and extensiveness of feeling (of the body) while dreaming/sleeping is very relevant. The completion and balancing that dreams/sleep give to the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light is consistent with the 90 degree angle of the two experiences/states (waking and dreaming). (Gravity is fairly constant at/near the surface of the Earth.)

The extremes of distance/scale and speed point up the connection involving electromagnetic/gravitational space (e.g., the Sun and photons).

The dream combines (and includes) invisible and visible space in conjunction with exhibiting wave/particle duality.

The unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general.

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by demonstrating gravity as repulsive and attractive AS electromagnetic energy/light is required. It is critical to demonstrate electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space. The unification/balancing/inclusion of both invisible and visible space is central to:

1) Balancing/unifying scale and...

2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravititationally and electromagnetically. Think wave/particle. Note that the repulsive and attractive aspect is manifest in the variable distances of space/distance in the dream (think of this in relation to touch and feeling as well).

These ideas need to be applied to atomic structure/interactions, and to electromagnetism/light and gravity generally. How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea. Do you see how this post (and my essay) cover/include: space, time, matter, energy, wave/particle, balancing/varying scale, repulsive/attractive, and visible/invisible?

You can see how the aspect of cylindrical space also applies to/is manifest in dream experience. Schroedinger was perplexed enough by life to suggest a new type of physical law. This new physical law is the known mathematical union of Einstein's theory of gravity and Maxwell's theory of light in a fourth spatial dimension. It is common sense (and obvious) that this unification must be (and is) present in our experience. The physical reality of said unification is dream experience. I have proven this definitively (in detail and with specifics). Note that I have demonstrated how time and space are both balanced in a fourth dimension. (I am not so concerned with what is the Kaluza-Klein interpretation of the unification as I am with the unification itself.) Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light).

Reductionist thinkers tend to pick apart my essay, as they lack [what is a greater] integrated extensiveness in their thinking.

The increased transparency/invisibility of space in astronomical/telescopic observations is very important/relevant as well.

Hi Jonathan (and all other reviewers of this essay):

This post clearly demonstrates the importance of my essay. I will now prove that how space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is THE central and MOST valuable physical idea.

The reduction in the range and extensiveness of feeling (of the body) while dreaming/sleeping is very relevant. The completion and balancing that dreams/sleep give to the unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light is consistent with the 90 degree angle of the two experiences/states (waking and dreaming). (Gravity is fairly constant at/near the surface of the Earth.)

The extremes of distance/scale and speed point up the connection involving electromagnetic/gravitational space (e.g., the Sun and photons).

The dream combines (and includes) invisible and visible space in conjunction with exhibiting wave/particle duality.

The unification of gravity and electromagnetism/light occupies the center (and best) position with regard to improving our understanding of physics in general.

To unify gravity and electromagnetism/light fundamentally and comprehensively, balancing/unifying scale by demonstrating gravity as repulsive and attractive AS electromagnetic energy/light is required. It is critical to demonstrate electromagnetic energy/light as gravitational space. The unification/balancing/inclusion of both invisible and visible space is central to:

1) Balancing/unifying scale and...

2) Balancing attraction and repulsion in conjunction with space manifesting both gravititationally and electromagnetically. Think wave/particle. Note that the repulsive and attractive aspect is manifest in the variable distances of space/distance in the dream (think of this in relation to touch and feeling as well).

These ideas need to be applied to atomic structure/interactions, and to electromagnetism/light and gravity generally. How space manifests as electromagnetic/gravitational energy is a central and very valuable physical idea. Do you see how this post (and my essay) cover/include: space, time, matter, energy, wave/particle, balancing/varying scale, repulsive/attractive, and visible/invisible?

You can see how the aspect of cylindrical space also applies to/is manifest in dream experience. Schroedinger was perplexed enough by life to suggest a new type of physical law. This new physical law is the known mathematical union of Einstein's theory of gravity and Maxwell's theory of light in a fourth spatial dimension. It is common sense (and obvious) that this unification must be (and is) present in our experience. The physical reality of said unification is dream experience. I have proven this definitively (in detail and with specifics). Note that I have demonstrated how time and space are both balanced in a fourth dimension. (I am not so concerned with what is the Kaluza-Klein interpretation of the unification as I am with the unification itself.) Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including gravity and electromagnetism/light).

Reductionist thinkers tend to pick apart my essay, as they lack [what is a greater] integrated extensiveness in their thinking/knowledge.

The increased transparency/invisibility of space in astronomical/telescopic observations is very important/relevant as well.

IMPORTANT FQXi participants -- As opposed to the blackness of space, the increased transparency/invisibility of space allows us to see farther in astronomical/telescopic observations.

Comments/questions welcome.

Hi Frank,

You are not asking questions that you did not ask in the past. Therefore my answers are still the same.

You have to derive mathematical consequences from your ideas. Just stating something it does not make it true; you need a proof.

The bottom line is that your approach is not physics.

Florin

Oops, I posted my reply to your thread instead of mine. Sorry about that. I will flag the previous and this post as inappropriate to be deleted by FQXi administrator, and I will post the answer on my thread.

Florin