Readers' Choice: Much Ado About Nothing

Peter,

Frequency Modulation function? You mean FM radio? How do you want to use it?

Jason

Yup, FM as in radio. I thought you'd picked that up. - it's classic wave/particle interaction. A single oscillator will change the frequncy of fm waves (back to exactly what they were broadcast at) by using 'c' as the local constant.

Virtual electrons are oscillators (called 'photoelectrons' in accellerator physics). Have you considered when and why they propagate? You're not alone!

In the DFM the reason they propagate proportionally to the velocity of the mass they surround is that the Doppler shift needs to be greater to maintain 'c' in the new field (inertial frame). Obviously their frequency is also proportional to relative velocity between frames. We find them around all mass in motion; the quantum 'clouds' planetary shocks, galactic halo etc. Check them out. Physics is a lot simpler in reality that we thought!

now consider - speed relative to what!!?? Absolute speed is only ever relative to the local background medium/field. If you're sharp you'll have noticed Einsteins need to get rid of the ether 'field' for SR has now, at last, gone away (he brought it back for GR anyway - and said 'space without ether is unthinkable'-1921).

So FM keps 'c' constant locally, because nothing can go faster through the 'dark energy' (or whatever you want to call it) field. So, if we get rid of the field in front of us there's no speed limit - that IS hyperspace!

Freeze Drive would be different to the columnar expressway cleared in advance. It only has to clear the bit ahead of the craft as it goes along, and actually uses the dark energy for power. A bit like a jet - it sucks it in (reducing the 2.7 degrees to zero)and uses that energy to blast it out the back and suck in more.

i.e. Hyperspace is the only type of space without 'ether' or dark energy, and you can use the dark energy to use the space. It doesn't co-exist till we create it.

Peter

Hi Peter,

You have some interesting ideas I'd like to think about.

"So, if we get rid of the field in front of us there's no speed limit - that IS hyperspace!" Sorry, it is the virtual photons that make motion possible. However, what can be done is to remove the lower velocity velocity, revealing the higher velocity photons, hyperspace.

Peter,

FREQUENCY MODULATED INERTIA

I think I've got it!!! We already know about electromagnetism, photon, light, poynting vector, etc.

I have referred to virtual photons as being something that makes the laws of motion possible, but is not exactly a photon. It's also not exactly a graviton either, but it propagates locally at the speed of light.

But what is it that makes inertia work? What makes objects move in gravitational geodesics? I suppose the graviton (which implements gravity fields) will fill the piece of the puzzle, for now.

You don't need black holes or astronomically large amounts of energy to generate "inertial photons". "Inertial photons" will work like FM, frequency modulated, geodesic like forces. Transduction from electrical energy into gravitational energy would be possible.

By modulating the inerial field around an object, like a spaceship, you can make it weightless, you can also accelerate it.

With large enough field strengths, you should be able to overpower the naturally occurring inertial field. It would be a little bit like having base speakers and woffers under you spaceship. Electrical energy is converted into inertial/geodesic energy; more understandably, "inertial photons" would transmit equal and opposite force as a thrust.

I have said that time travel is impossible. It still is; there are no takebacks. However, it would be possible to build chambers that run time fast or or other chambers that run time slow. There would be hypernation chambers that don't freeze you; instead, they run time such that a 8 week trip might only feel like an hour. Other chambers would do the opposite. No time travel is possible. Aging rates would vary.

Hi Peter,

But how would someone reveal this frequency modulated inertia from the mathematical physics? When debris is falling into a black hole, it tends to orbit in a decaying orbit as it travels around a few times, eventually it falls in. From the point of view of the debris, it's just going along for the ride as it zips around the black hole. If the debris is really a spaceship with a beacon that emits a bright light, the photons heading down towards the event horizon will be blue shifted; the photons traveling away from the black hole have to climb out of the gravity well, they will lose energy to do so, and be redshifted.

The photon will always travel at the speed of light, locally. A gravity well is an acceleration field. Mathematically, the escaping photon will have to give up energy delta U = Int F(r)*ds = h(delta f). What happens to the photon if it runs out of frequency (energy) before it can escape the black hole? Where does its energy go? It's not reflected back down to the black hole, I don't think. That energy is lost to the gravity field. But what does the gravity field do with it? Oops, the gravity field belongs to the black hole. If energy is lost to the gravity well, then that energy is gained by the black hole, even if it's indirectly throught the gravity field, right? Rest assured that the spaceship that is going around the black hole, it will gain kinetic energy as it falls in. It gets that energy from the black hole (it's gravity field). How much energy/mass content could I extract from the black hole before I violate thermodynamics by robbing the black hole of energy?

Hey Peter,

I liked your frequency modulation idea. I wanted to develop it with my idea of Frequency Modulated Inertia. I am copying what I wrong in the blog area.

I would like to measure the time dialation of relative gravitational potential. I want to define a new measuring unit, the Spectrum. A Spectrum is the frequency difference between a high energy gamma ray (10^18Hz) and 1 Hz (or DC).

I want to measure from somewhere above the event horizon of some black hole somewhere to the gravity field of somewhere safe out of its reach. Here is how I will do the measurement. A gamma ray is emitted above the event horizon, it climbs the gravity well, losing energy in the process. Eventually, it will run out of energy at 1Hz, that is 1 Sp (one spectrum). At that position, another gamma ray is emitted and travels higher out of the energy well until it's depleted. How many spectra does it take to get from the event horizon to someplace safe? One or two spectra? Can we take the same measurement inside of the blackhole? How many spectra from the event horizon to the geometric center? I'm guessing maybe several hundred spectra.

It is these spectra that determine relative time dialation. The same measurement can be made for two objects passing each other at relativistic velocities. As they pass each other, it should be possible to measure the number of spectra between them.

I'll explain more later. But I want to call this Frequency Modulated Inertia (FMI).

Peter,

I think I've got it! I think I know how to generate an artificial gravity wave. You gave me the idea of frequency modulation. Let me explain...

When a photon falls into a gravity well, it's blue shifted, right?

When a photon emerges out of gravity well, it's red shifted, yes?

Is it physically possible to build a machine that will generate a photon? Yes, stupid question. It's called a laser. I want to add a voltage controlled oscillator to my photon generating machine. This VCO has to take a series of voltage ramps (sawtooth?) and feed it into the photon generating machine. Here is the hard part. That photon generating machine has to output photons whose frequency goes from 1Hz to 10^18Hz, in a linear fashion, inside of a second. I think there is a sweet spot at which the photon disappears and the gravity wave emerges.

What say you?

Hi Peter,

Do you think that a small cylindrical magnetic bottle of quark plasma might be responsive to that range of frequencies?

Jason

I love your enthusiasm and don't want to dampen your conceptual fire, but any worthwhile theory must be based on reality, on firm foundations, not quicksand. There is a way ahead, but based on science not just invention!

Take a closer look at 'virtual photons' so you understand them properly before relying so much on imaginary properties. You say; "Sorry, it is the virtual photons that make motion possible". They have indeed been described that way, and may suit your idea but it's a poor, indeed false, conception and description. Look at the Baez description under 'renormalisation', and consider accellerators. Both the accelerated particles and the magnets field grow a cloud of them proportional to speed, and it's their oscillation that both holds the acceleration energy imparted and prevents them reaching 'c' wrt the background field.

Indeed, in a way it is they that PREVENT any motion faster than 'c'! You cannot credibly rely on them as the 'magic bullet' you need.

However. They can only prevent C motion wrt the dark energy field. Remove that energy just in front of the craft and 'the universe is your lobster'!

Your FMI is very close to the shift Christian Doppler gave us an equation for. The inertia, or momentum (as they are synonomous) energy is conserved by the shift when the waves, or 'wave packet' photons, move between frames.

Another point - Black Holes; As your photon is starting outside the event horizon we will be able to see it, that is the definition of the event horizon. If it's in our visible range and starts just inside the event horizon; it will be red shifted (FMI) to just below the trigger level of energy our eyes can register. Now we must remember our arrogance! The part of the spectra (spectrum) our eyes can anyway pick up is infinitessimally small compared to the whole! This means the red giants we see may really be mega big neutron stars, but with so much gravity the gamma rays reach us at the bottom end of our visible spectrum. If they're bigger still, or emitt at a lower frequency, they're outside our visible spectrum and we call them black holes. (we can however sometimes pick up infra red and radio frequencies from them).

I think you need to forget the old 19th century 'messenger particles' concept to achieve real 21st century physics.

Lastly - photons can only change frequency by changing speed, which is what they do going into glass and water for instance, and is why 'c' is a constant locally when it changes speed between frames. Take that fully on board and the answers will flow.

I hope this will help.

Best regards

Peter

Dear Peter,

I value your thoughts and ideas; you have no idea how hard it is to find someone with both technical genius and merciful of enthusiasm. With respect to generating gravity waves, I think I am right.

If you stress electromagnetic fields in the right way, the energy will take the path of least resistance to dissipate that energy; they will generate a gravity wave. From gravity waves to hyper-drives, it is just the advancing technical implementation of electronics. The very fact that electrons have clouds is an indication that the laws of physics are not as precise as we expect them to be. If they were, everything would be classical. The laws of motion permit fuzziness, but they will work at the speed of light to dissipate regional stress points by moving energy around to ease the stress point(s). This is where we take the advantage. We have to generate electromagnetic fields that stress space time to the point where it is easier to convert it to a gravity wave. This is my understanding of how that works.

We need a long cylinder of gluon plasma. We are going to turn it into a gravity laser. The quark-gluon plasma is highly responsive to the full spectrum of frequencies from 1 Hz all the way up to 10^18Hz (gamma rays). You have to pump a high voltage AC into the quark-gluon plasma. You are going to use a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO) to generate a frequency range that goes from 1Hz to 10^18 Hz in a modified linear fashion. You are going to do this over and over again, like a sawtooth waveform. You are trying to generate the appearance of a photon that gains or loses energy as it would in a gravity field. You are looking for the stress-point at which energy will dissipate more easily as a gravity wave then it will as a photon. Photons operate in both the frequency domain and the k-vector domain (momentum). We can't built electronics that will truly operate faster than c. However, if we are driving the voltage at intervals all the length of the cylinder, we might be able to force the electromagnetic spectrum into such a high stress point that it kicks out a gravity wave because that relieves the stress more easily. If we can do that, we make the major technological breakthrough.

Peter!

Anti-gravity field generator! Are you interested?

Nice plan Jason,

But 2 points.

1. Anti gravity generators may exist. Have you seen the levitating frog? This was no hoax, just Google it. Essentially it was a very strong em field. There is a definite link between the em field and gravitational field we have yet to find. A basic similarity is that they are both representations of physical sets of co-ordinates, or reference frames, and they are and remain locla to the 'parent' mass. em waves won't go through an em field at anything other than 'c'.

2. Study and consider Superconductivity. (check recent Nature Physics). We've now reached a point where it seems energy fluctuations, or 'information', may be able to be transmitted at some sort of phase velocity rather than be limited to wave velocity, which the law limits to 'c'. Lets say you superpose two sets of waves just out of phase. At the right frequency, the observed apparent velocity of the peaks can be over 'c'. A bit like watching wagon wheels rotate backwards in the old cowboy films.

I'm not convinced that gravity waves as such, if they exist at all, will help you, but if you can find a way to get the coded information of a human shaped bunch of protons onto a phase velocity rather than a wave velocity, then decode it, we may be able to beam you up!

Peter

Dear Peter,

There is a connection between gravity (acceleration fields) and electromagnetism. It is so simple. We will all be kicking ourselves for not thinking of it sooner.

Frequency Modulation is the key. If you have access to an electronics lab, you could easily test it; maybe even put the results on YouTube.com.

This can be done with some electronics equipment. Take a Signal generator, a voltage controlled Oscillator (VCO), power booster and a satellite dish. You're going to need to generate a ramp function on your signal generator. The ramp function will be fed into the VCO. Ramps with positive slopes will generator attraction fields. Ramps with negative slopes will generate repulsion fields. Higher frequencies can be used to "grasp" smaller objects.

Normally, electromagnetic fields would cause the protons to accelerate one way and the electrons to accelerate the other way; like they do in microwave ovens. But guess what happens when ramp functions are used to drive VCO's? You get sloping potential energy gradients that fill the space of the beam.

Forget beaming up. Prepare to be worm-holed up.

Hmmm.

You seem to be going in an interesting direction, but there's still a lot of unproven physics to justify. (I would say 'prove' but that, after Popper and as always, is impossible!).

But I believe at present you'll fall down on the worm hole. I beleive infinities can't exist mathematically for a very good reason; they can't exist. If the laws of physics are the same everywhere then a Lagrangian point will exist at all centres of mass, which must include that of a black hole. The 5 around our planet, points of equilibrium in the sun/earth/moon system, are not unique, they're everywhere.

The microgravimetric survey of the great pyramid at Cheops supported a local Lagrangian at it's centre, which would be the same if it was floating in space, and the same if it was bigger. i.e. at the centre of the earth we'd float in equilibrium (if not magma!). Singularities are just muddled thinking based on lack of good information. There's zero evidence to support them and plenty supporting other models.

I think Ted Jacobsons columnar effect is the real key to superluminal motion, though he doesnt' yet seem to have quite followed through with all the implications yet, i.e. isolating and correcting the real assumptive error in SR.

I have a nice analogue; The 4th 'innermost' set of jaws in Alien - will only ever travel at a given speed wrt the next set out, lets call it 'c'. But if the next set out are in motion wrt the next set, and they wrt the outer set, we can do v+v+v+v. And if it's running at the time we can add another v. And if the local galaxy is moving backwards wrt the spacecraft (or vice versa) wec an add another if we've observing from outside the galaxy. Nothing we're seeing is doing more than 'c' locally, but we can observe it's apparent rate of change of position at well over 'c' without needing Lorentz. (as the light informing us of this reaches us at 'c'). Interestingly Messier 87 and dozens of other gas jets do just that.

Peter

Peter

"...but there's still a lot of unproven physics to justify." Experiments come next.

"But I believe at present you'll fall down on the worm hole. " You'll have to wear a spacesuit and a parachute. And if they lose power while your near the top, reentry could get kinda hot. It just makes better sense to use low energy wormholes.

"The 4th 'innermost' set of jaws in Alien " Kind of a gruesome analogy, but accurate. Whatever happened to the Alcubierre hyper-drive?

Hi Jason

Been thinking about it and just cracked it.

Forget worm holes, they're fantasy nonsense, the answer lies in the Fourier Transform, the HFP and WFS.

Beckstein was right when he said a 'final thory must be concerned.... with information exchange among physical processes"

Signals are effectively re-sent by new point oscillators, which gives refraction between inertial frames, but there's no 'backwave, so it really is FM! Think superposed asymptopic waves.

I wonder how much information we can transfer to new particles and re-transmit in this way!?

Sorry not to be exited by your current hyperdrive plan, but this has rather bigger implications.

Best wishes

Peter

Dear Peter,

You actually eased my mind a bit. I also cracked a piece of the puzzle. The force of a repeating frequency shifted photon is: F = h (f2 - f1)/(c t_ramp) per photon. I want to take this idea and go to work for Rockwell Collins. In this little equation lies the key to transducing electromagnetic fields into force fields. I've been afraid that if this equation gets out there, I'll lose my opportunity as being the only one who knows how to do this. In reality, I guess everyone has their own passionate attraction to physics.

When I said wormhole, perhaps that was a bit dramatic. Cylindrical acceleration field would be more accurate. At 100& efficiency, 1000 watts will lift 100 kg about 1 m/s. One would use significantly more power to get them up to the spaceship faster. It would be like "falling up" to the spaceship.

Hi jason

It may be easier than you think to 'fall up'.

I was looking at the WMAP for the eccentricity predicted by the DFM (it's there in anomous abundance) but noticed they have it the wrong way up!

I checked with ESA's Planck and they've done the same!!

I suppose no-one has told them which way up we should be. NASA did the same with the piccie of th Heliosphere they did; It's going right to left. Now look at the Milky Way and note which way it's spinning (ensuring you look from the top).

Do you see what I mean? Were actually going left to right. Otherwise we'd be going the wrong way round the sun.

You may well say there is no wrong or right way - but just look at all the other planets, which way do you think we should be going? Certainly not the opposite way to everyone else I'll warrant.

The importance of this is that we're all made of antimatter not matter. I know we've assumed we're made of matter, but it's the other way round - that's where we've gone wrong. There really is a difference; It's like assuming the Earths lab frame is universal, it's unbeleivably arrogant and unintelligent to think someone on the other side of the universe would care about how fast and which way our little planet is moving with respect to them! Everyone in relative motion is his own lab. That's relativity.

So, the upshot is, it seems we can fall up with impunity, and without going to Australia, or the other 'matter' half of the galaxy where Australias water would have spun the other way round a plughole. I'll let you have the pleasure of letting the team at the jpl know they have the map the wrong way up.

Love your photon calc. Hope it works, but remember that photons are about to be exposed as short term entities, propagated at inertial frame boundaries by Huygens Principle. This will allow unification.

But you're right. No-one will take a blind bit of notice of your equation as they all have their own beliefs and agendas. It seems Sir Karl Popper was right, we're all doomed as we can't challenge ruling paradigms any more.

Cest la vie!

Peter

Hi Peter,

You sound a bit dismayed. Cheer up! Paradigms can be change (corrected).

I've never been very good at tracking the "correct" sign. So I sure as heck can't begrudge WPAP, or anyone else, if they got something upside down. In fact, I think the laws of physics themselves don't specifically designate up or down. Everything is relative to the virtual photons that carry around causalit and information like little mailmen or messengers. That's the only way coupling occurs in the universe; is by photons carrying news everywhere at the speed of light.

My hope is that once the physics community truly gets a better understanding of generating artificial gravity (acceleration) fields, that fusion will come next. With fusion reactors, energy will become cheap. Maybe we can built fusion plants aboard shuttles that can reach a low orbit in space, for a fraction of what it costs now.

There is reason to be hopeful.