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Dear Emmanuel,

I apologize for misspelling your name. You pointed me to http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2010/02/17_gravitational_redshift.shtml

Well, confirmation of predictions is indeed a necessary precondition for at least partial correctness of a theory. However, I maintain my objection against the claim that the whole theory of relativity is fundamental on a sound theoretical basis, and am reiterating my desire to learn convincing arguments for Lorentz transformation. Do not get me wrong. I have no reason to distrust the limitation for the speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. I just see flaws in some theories, and I wonder why there is apparently no way to unify them.

I asked for the direction of time, and you wrote "It is strange but there is no arrow of time at the fundamental level". Do you agree with Schulman? I quoted him in my earlier essays 369 or 527.

Eckard

Dear Eckard,

I am not sure to understand what you mean. The Lorentz transformation is the mathematical way to explain how the speed of light was observed to be independent of the reference frame in the Special Relativity. I don't see any flaw in this theory. You can read the initial work of Henri Poincaré (or any book about the Special Relativity) to be convinced that the Lorentz transformation is the right way to express the fact that the speed of light is constant.

I think that the problem of unification you talk about is the one of the quantum gravity (unification of the General Relativity and the Quantum Mechanics). It is a very hard mathematical program with two main theories: the string theory and the loop quantum gravity. Actually, the fundamental questions are the unity of physics and the beginning of the universe. It is possible that a physical solution emerges from the quantum gravity program. As an alternative, I point out in my essay that we could answer to the previous fundamental questions if we make the assumption that the photon is the most fundamental element in the universe.

Emmanuel

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    Hi Emmanuel,

    I too liked many aspects of your essay. I was particularly pleased to see your following statements:-

    "that time is defined relative to the speed of light." and "The time coordinate ct represents the possibility of motion for the matter relative to the speed of light c along the geodesics defined by a metric g".

    I think this touches on something deep and potentially far reaching! I have long thought that what we call "time" should be expressed in a form that represents "potentiality" of motion. Our reliance on the use of "clock time", whilst operationally useful, cannot bring us closer to an understanding of fundamental reality. This "potentiality" is actualised by the redistribution of energy which, as you say, brings us back to photons. Our conventional time variables, operators etc, can only ever be considered as relative spatial displacements caused by motion and therefore *cannot explain themselves*.

    I'm not so sure about your description of "wave/particle duality" as "continuous and discrete". I stand to be corrected but I thought that all wave forms can be quantised, including their various fourier modes, so that we still have discrete/digital information? I guess it may depend on your definitions?

    Finally, could you please clarify..."I think that photons can help us to remove the initial singularity". From your description it seems to me that the initial singularity still existed at t=0, even though it may have "evaporated" extremely rapidly. It would have existed as a point of infinite energy density I think, given your explanation? Or are you saying that, as it did not exist "in time", it is unobservable and therefore not "real"?

    Good luck in the contest!

    Regards,

    Roy

    Dear Roy,

    Thank you for your comment. I suppose that you agree with my definition of time relative to the speed of light. In the history of the universe, if we get back in time then we know that some pair production reactions are not possible when the temperature reaches a certain threshold. I suppose that the photon is the primordial element and that the Planck epoch corresponds to the epoch where no pair production reaction is allowed. At the Planck epoch, we are not at the initial singularity. Nevertheless, with the previous definition of time and if there are only photons at the Planck epoch, the notion of time is not defined. I agree that the Planck epoch becomes a singular domain because the geodesics cannot be extended into the past, but we are not at the initial singularity where all values become infinite. Somehow, we "remove" the initial singularity with photons.

    Your question about the continuity of the variables is fundamental. I think, for instance, that the frequency of the photon is a continuous variable (taking all the real values). In the definition of the energy of photons (equation (1) in the essay), there are the quantification with the Planck constant and the continuous variable of the frequency. As said Cristi (see the previous post): "the photon has in its blood the laws of quantum theory and relativity". Nevertheless, I confess that I am in trouble with the problem of masses. In my essay, formula (4) is a definition of masses. If the photon is the primordial particle then (4) is the fundamental definition of masses. I don't see what does it mean physically and I don't see any connection with the Higgs mechanism.

    Emmanuel

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    In fact you are right and false.

    In fact all is composed by the same essence.The gravity, the space and the light.

    Now let's assume a specific entanglement,thus a specific number, let's assume also a specific serie from the main central sphere.

    Now the question is this one, why they are different and however they are same at the origin.

    Only a different sense of rotation of entangled spheres answer rationally.

    And the time is a result of these rotations like mass also, thus space is entanglement without motion, like particles in wait.

    Now how can you say that photons are the most foundamental essence, yes and no we can say that for garvity and space also.In fact it's the entanglement of speheres which is foundamental,like a serie from the main center.The volumes take all their sense and the sense of rotation spinal and orbital also.Logic.

    Now let's assume a fusion mass light in an evolutive pint of vue.....thus an other important point is this one.is it the light which is fractalized or the gravity in its pure quantic number???Don't forget the number of the ultim fractal do not change.Thus if it's the light which is fractalized really, it's not light the most foundamental essence but the gravity because the number for a gravitational stability do not change.I return about senses of rotation and the volumes for a real polarization between mass and light.

    Very interesting essay, you are right and false in afct.

    Best Regardfs

    Steve

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    Dear Emmanuel,

    You are definitely not the only one who does not understand what I meant. While I did not deal with Lorentz transformation in my essays 369, 527, and the essay in preparation, the reason for me to do so is related to them.I was seeking for the reasons why the 4th dimension ict is imaginary and how to explain the twin paradox. Guided by discussions here at FQXi and reading a lot, I arrived at points of view close to Essen and other proponents of Galilean electrodynamics.

    I noticed that Voigt already in 1887, i.e. before the Michelson's experiments and dealing not with light but with an incompressible medium as to explain the Doppler effect, introduced what Poincarè later called Lorentz transformation. Voigt's priority that was acknowledged by Minkowski in 1908 and by Lorentz himself in 1909.

    Milan Pavlovic wrote a Critical Analysis that proved Einstein's 1920 "simple derivation of Lorentz transformation" wrong. His main objection likewise applies to Voigt 1887 and Lorentz 1895. Unfortunately, Pavlovich did not declare the Lorentz transformation wrong but he suggested instead to derive it from something what is based on it.

    Van Flandern also rejected Einstein's SR but he inconsequently suggested a Lorentz relativity instead. At least he understood that Lorentz contraction is an illusion due to unjustified time desynchronisation.

    The latter objection agrees with what I independently revealed from Einstein's 1905 paper "Zur Elektrodynamik...": a round-trip (ABA) and therefore asymmetrical synchronization is responsible for the paradox deviation from logically correct and measurable Doppler effect.

    Einstein did not mention that he perhaps plagiarized Poincaré here. Malheureusement je ne pas parle Francais. I could only read a small part of Poincaré's work, and I would appreciate if you could point me to further available on the web translations into English, German, or Russian. From what I read I understood that Poincaré highly estimated Lorentz.

    Lorentz (Versuch einer Theorie .... 1895) himself was directly or indirectly influenced by Lodge 1893, FitzGerald 1889, and Heaviside even earlier. Peter Jackson has been pointing to a mistake by Larmor concerning stellar aberration.

    By the way, FQXi's Paul Davies resolved the twin paradox by means of Doppler terms to be added or subtracted, respectively, to Lorentz contraction.

    What prompted my suspicion was the implausible contraction in both cases, increasing and decreasing distance.

    There is of course opulent secondary literature, e.g. work by Harvey Brown, Oxford. Being a retired university teacher of power electronics, fundamentals of electrical engineering and signal processing, I am aware of my limitations in understanding modern physics. Fortunately, I am in position to learn and get informed from FQXi, Wiki, and other excellent opportunities. Don't measured fluctuations of cosmic background radiation confirm a flat universe?

    Eckard

    Dear Steve,

    Concerning gravitation, if you look at the Newton's theory then you can think that it is a similar force to the electrostatic interaction between electrically charged particles. But when you look at the General Relativity, you understand that it is something else. Since several years, I have tried to use what is called in geometry a framed hypersurface, in order to describe gravitation as a normal force to a three dimensional manifold. Unfortunately, I did not succeed in recovering the spacetime of the General Relativity. Finally, I gave up this idea. The philosophy of the General Relativity is that we live in a manifold (called a Lorentzian manifold), and not in a submanifold. This is rather technical but the main idea is that our universe is full content and not embedded in a bigger space. It is possible to give a mathematical constancy of a universe embedded in a bigger one, but I don't believe that it is the philosophy of the General Relativity. Energy models the geometry of the spacetime: here is the main idea of the General Relativity. I think that we can forget the idea that gravitation is a force or something fundamental.

    Concerning the space, things are quite similar. It is possible to find a mathematical justification to the fact that there are 3 space dimensions, but I don't think that it is really interesting. We observe that there are 3 space dimensions. Once again, the 3 space variables (that represents the space dimensions) intermingles with the time variable in the metric of the spacetime. This metric is given by the Einstein's field equations and thus by the energy. The content of the universe is fundamental, not the container. My idea was to focus my attention on the content. Then I propose, as an extension of the Relativity with respect to the speed of light, that the photon can be the primordial particle. All is relative to light (or to its quanta called photons).

    Happy new year.

    Emmanuel

      Dear Eckard,

      I have found this link: http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-00182764 concerning the "Physical Geometry and Special Relativity: Einstein and Poincaré".

      I'm sorry I can not help you more about the Lorentz transformation.

      Emmanuel

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      Dear Emmanuel,

      Thank you very much for the link. It revealed to me that indeed neither Einstein nor Minkowski but Poincaré, in particular "Le measure du temps" 1898, is to blame for the twin paradox and the imaginary 4th spatial component: "...two frames in relative motion, the one taken as at rest, and the (other) one in motion". This via ABA desynchronizing idea of relativity of simultaneity does not only obviously violate the principle of equal rights for A and B. I see it already questionable to consider the relative motion between two frames A and B, each of which is unrealistically thought to extend from minus infinity to plus infinity, instead of just their tangible origins.

      Of course, Poincaré used the rather ad hoc and ether related FitzGerald-Lorentz explanation of the Michelson-Morley null result. Perhaps he was also mislead by Larmor 1897 who is credited for interpreting the equation of concern as time dilatation.

      Eckard

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      Hi dear Emmanuel,

      Happy new year also.

      It's relevant in all case,I like your differenciation between the Physicality and the unknown if I can say.

      I always asked me but "How these elementary particules know what they must become ?

      The codes( intrinsics) of evolution seems in the gravity and in the light.

      Probably you are right about the fact that all is composed by photons if we take the hypothetical BB and its evolution.

      After, it exists a topological evolution and an ocean of motions(rotations),for all that the sphere is the best form for all, our universe is a sphere in optimization with a probable center where all turns around.

      Now how this light becomes mass?....the codes of becoming seems the answer.And a polarization between mass and light is an evidence.

      That's why the changement of sense of rotation is essential .

      The density in my line of reasoning inscreases(mass) due to the fusion mass light in time space.

      But apprently the volumes of entangled spheres do not change like their number.

      Thus all is coded and changes and evolves due to the complexity of all these rotations of the ultim entanglement.The number becomes essential with its finite serie, like an ultim fractal of the main central sphere, the biggest volume.

      Your point of vue about the contenair is relevant if we see it like space,

      now all that rests in the pure physicality.

      The pure thermo can be easilly inserted where a kind of "evolutive light envelop" encircles the content.

      Now if the sense of rotation is inserted with 2 main gauges, we can see the mass and its stability(topologcal) and on the other side the linearity of light.That permits to create mass and energy correlated with fields inside a closed evolutive system.

      Best Regards

      Steve

      Dear Steve,

      I think the evolution of photons is quite similar to biological evolution. If there are only photons at the Planck epoch, the entropy is very weak. Then, due to pair productions, the complexity and the entropy increase. I am not able to see all the consequences of such an assumption (the fact that photons are the primordial element) and if it violates a well known result in physics. But I am fairly sure that this assumption has testable implications.

      Emmanuel

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        Hello dear Emanuel,

        Indeed ,in fact all is composed by the same primordial essence.

        The increase of mass and density implies the fact that a polarization exists between light and mass.Like you said the evolution permits this entropy and this complexification.

        The pure quantum number must be finite for all this rotating and spherical dynamic.That permits the real quantification of mass.

        The fusion of volumes between mass and light seems an other verifiable evidence.It's like analyzing a kind of sorting and a kind of fusion that appears between this garvity and this linear light.

        If the decrease of c is due to gravitational superpositions.The rotations spinals and orbitals are relevant for this fractalization.

        The volumes more the velocities of rot. spin.and orb.more the mass and thus the density and thus entropy can be unified in several constants and equations.

        The photons are in a dance of evolution and the gravity is light, a evolved light in fact topologically harmonized.

        That's why I insist about the sense of rotation which implies a differnce between gravity and light.A topological stability or a linearity of evolution more a rule of fuel for hv.The content increases in entropy ...that necessites a thermodynamical membran envelopping our Universal sphere for the d,esity and the pression and the volumes.

        In this line of reasoning the light becomes mass in time space evolution.

        The senses of rot.zxplain why mass has no mass......nevertheless the entanglement is the same.The center of our Universe and all spherical centers become relevant for the stability and the linearity.

        Best Regards

        Steve

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        Emmanuel,

        Very interesting essay.

        Just as a rhetorical question, what happens to photons at very low temperatures?

        As you point out, waves are continuous photons, so presumably if these waves were "entangled"/ synchronized, than multiple photons would function as one.

        So what happens if we stretch that wave as far as it will go, to near infinity/chill it down to near absolute zero? Does it break down at some point into particle photons and as waves, curl up in themselves?

        I raise this issue because, if space is ultimately flat, then gravity balances the expansion of space, so there would be no additional expansion and thus the universe is stable. Since mass does heat up and break down, radiating out light, it would seem the gravitational collapse is counteracted by the expansion of radiation. So my question is whether light can turn back into mass at very cold temperatures. Fission is hot. Is fusion very cold?

        It seems to me that Inflation is an extremely ad hoc and frankly preposterous explanation for why cosmic background radiation is so smooth. A more logical explanation is that this is some sort of phase transition level. Such as that due to the quantum limits of light, it cannot expand to infinity and at a certain point, after it has traveled for 13-14 billion years and fallen off the infrared end of the spectrum, it starts to break down the wave aspect and the particle functions remaining start coalescing and the whole process of gravitational collapse begins.

        In your essay on time, you conclude with the observation that: Moreover, what we usually call time is not fundamental in the General Relativity and comes from the time variable.

        I also think time is not fundamental, but for more prosaic reasons. Consider: If two objects hit one another, it causes an event. While the physical entities go from past events to future ones, these events go from being in the future to being in the past. Thus there are two directions of time. The physical present going from past to future, while the conformational states of these events go from future to past. Tomorrow becomes yesterday because the earth rotates. This raises the issue of what is more fundamental. Currently the assumption is of time moving past to future, so this implies the series of events are foundational and the present moves along them. It seems more logical though, that the manifest physical presence is more fundamental and these events are the transitional effects. So it would seem the present is the constant, which the events come and go, from future potential to past circumstance. We still see the sun moving across the sky, but know we know it is the earth that moves.

        Since the full range of input cannot be determined before the occurrence of an event, it is this collapsing of possibilities that leads to the occurrences we register as the series of temporal events, so future is cause and past is effect. It is only when we examine events in the past tense that we order them as the series and list prior events as cause to subsequent ones, even though any prior event can only be a partial explanation for any subsequent event.

        The conclusion then, is that time is an effect of motion, not the basis for it. It would be the sequential ordering of change, much like temperature is an effect of motion, that of the level of activity.

        So it makes sense that every clock records its own time and similar clocks will record different rates of change under different conditions, but this is not due to following separate time vectors, only different "burn" rates.

        Rather than refining the clock function down to its most precise measurements and considering this the more valid measure of time, time is an effect of all change, not just the most calibrated.

        A logical consequence of this is that there can be no dimensionless point in time, as that would negate the very motion causing it, much like trying to take a picture with the shutter speed set at zero.

        The only absolute time would be the cessation of all motion, just like the only absolute temperature is the cessation of all motion.

        This means that there is no such thing as absolute position and an entity cannot be isolated from its motion. It is both particle and wave, whether it's a photon or a car.

        Dear John,

        At very low temperature, we have a phenomenon called quantum fluctuations. It is responsible for the Casimir effect. This phenomenon is due to the uncertainties between energy and time, arising from the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. As there is an uncertainty in the energy, photons can become virtual fundamental particles but for a very short time. These quantum fluctuations lead to a vacuum energy. Today, there is a mystery because this vacuum energy is a very good candidate to be the dark energy as a cosmological constant. Unfortunately, there is a large discrepancy (of 120 orders) between the observed value of the dark energy and the estimated value of the vacuum energy.

        I am not sure to really understand your second question. I think it deals with the future of the cosmic microwave background radiation when temperature tends to the absolute zero. I think that photons will keep their wave/particle duality. But it will depend on the future of matter. I have made the assumption that photons are the fundamental (or primordial) element, but I have no idea about the stability of matter when the temperature will be very close to the absolute zero.

        Concerning time and as I explain in a previous post, you can think that time is totally relative (to be able to measure the motion of an object with respect to another object) and this is a Machian view of time (from the Mach's principle) where time disappears. I think that time is relative to light as explained in my eprint and that we have to extend the theory of Relativity with respect to photons/light to particles. This is a physical assumption and it is not the result of the quantum gravity program. It is interesting to study if we can solve some fundamental problems of physics starting with photons only. I think so.

        Emmanuel

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          Emmanuel,

          Thanks for the reply. I'm not really thinking in terms of quantum fluctuation per se. Though I wouldn't rule out a positive vacuum fluctuation as source of expansion/explanation for dark energy.

          I was picking your brain on the issue of "pair production in two-photon collisions", because I think there is a more unified cosmology hiding in our ideas about light.

          While Big Bang cosmology seems to have to keep adding patches to survive, I keep finding tantalizing hints, in everything from the fact that they keep finding ever more distant galaxies that push the age boundaries of BBt to the correspondence of redshift with a cosmological constant. Part of this is the idea, not originally mine, that light is the source of what appears to be expanding space.

          Since the overall universe appears to be flat, with expansion balanced by gravitation, I fail to see the logic of why the universe is supposed to actually be expanding. Wouldn't that require expansion to exceed the contraction of gravity?

          If the space between galaxies expands at a rate identical to which space is falling into them, how does the overall universe expand?

          I do think the idea of the geometry of space actually expanding, contracting, curved, etc, is something of a misnomer, since space has no physical attributes and is necessarily neutral, but use the terminology because it is accepted.

          That, as a vacuum, it might fluctuate, could be a disequilibrium, but to the extent it is a positive effect and cause expansion, it is still pulled back into equilibrium by gravity, since overall space is flat.

          Since they are so finely tuned, it seems far more logical that there is some form of cycle balancing these two sides of the equation, not coincidence of being balanced between the Big Bang and the Big Crunch, or fade to black. I do go into this somewhat in my own essay, but since the question is about digital vs, analog, only slightly.

          Emmanuel,

          You state: "Energy models the geometry of the space-time: here is the main idea of the General Relativity. I think that we can forget the idea that gravitation is a force or something fundamental. [and] Concerning the space, things are quite similar. It is possible to find a mathematical justification to the fact that there are 3 space dimensions, but I don't think that it is really interesting. We observe that there are 3 space dimensions."

          I agree with you about 3-space. And on 31 Dec 2010 I received my Phys Rev Lett 105, with an article (231101) that seems to indicate that General Relativity does not predict the results of the most accurate study yet performed. The GR predictions are off by 0.2%, and the difference appears to be attributed to the C-field (rotational aspect of G-field) on which my essay is based.

          As long as we did not know whether the universe was open, flat, or closed, then I believe that we needed general relativity as the only theory capable of describing all possible cases. But, if we know (as we think we now know) that the universe is flat, then I'm not sure that we need general relativity to describe the universe; we may need it only to describe certain highly 'curved' situations such as black holes and neutron stars. In this case general relativity becomes simply the preferred description. Doug Sweetser has diagrammatically illustrated this in striking fashion, as I show in my essay.

          As for gravity, I'm not sure why you feel that you can write it off as not fundamental. As I note, and as Calabi conjectured back in 1953, the gravitational field itself has energy, and hence mass, and therefore is uniquely qualified to be the "original stuff" from which a universe forms. Not only that, but the gravitational field can interact with itself, leading to far more possibilities for evolution than the electromagnetic field, which interacts with charge, but is itself uncharged.

          I do believe that it's unlikely that 'gravitons' exist-- they do not in my theory. And the 'gluons' that have never actually been seen, and postulated 'color' that never has or never will be seen, are mechanisms that can be provided by the C-field. Even Wilczek admits that Yukawa pion exchange fails at the hard core limit. The consensus explanation is that QCD achieves only about 5% accuracy because "it's so complicated", but it is entirely possible that it is simply wrong. When the Higgs fails to show up, maybe physicists will consider other possibilities.

          Although my theory provides a mechanism for charge and EM-fields to appear, and even derives the fine structure constant, it is probably the one part of my theory that I am least satisfied with.

          So I do agree with you that photon's appear to be in a class by themselves, and very fundamental.

          I hope that you will read my essay and respond in some manner.

          Edwin Eugene Klingman

          Dear Edwin,

          I don't know the article you talk about, but we have to make the difference between some possible mathematical modifications of the General Relativity and their validities with respect to experiments. Today, there is only one theory of gravitation which is checked with a high degree of precision and this is the General Relativity.

          You say that "we may need it only to describe certain highly 'curved' situations such as black holes and neutron stars", but this is not correct. We use the General Relativity for the GPS system on earth and for the time synchronization for satellites.

          When I say that "we can forget the idea that gravitation is a force or something fundamental", I do not pretend that the General Relativity is false. If you look at the General Relativity, you cannot find a force called gravitation. Actually, gravitation is the Riemann curvature tensor of a Lorentzian manifold, and this curvature evolves with energy. It is true that there is a possible non local action of energy due to gravitational waves and this is a very interesting issue. The Riemann curvature tensor can be decomposed between the Ricci tensor and the Weyl tensor. The Ricci tensor describes the local action of energy and is given by the Einstein's field equation. If there is no energy, the Ricci tensor is zero. The Weyl tensor describes the non local action of the energy and is given by the Weyl equation (see for instance the book of Stephen Hawking and George Ellis. "The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time"). Thus, a region of space crossed by a gravitational wave has a nonzero Weyl tensor. We have indirect proofs that gravitational waves exist and thus it is possible that the Weyl tensor is non zero in some regions of the universe. I think that the Weyl tensor can be put in relation with the dark matter but this is another speculative idea...

          You point out the fact that gravitons and Higgs bosons are speculative. I think it is the right way to progress in science. We must clearly identity what is established by experiment: the special relativity, the general relativity, the quantum mechanics, the quantum electrodynamics, the quantum chromodynamics... and what is speculative: the quantum gravity, the graviton, the Higgs boson, scalar-tensor-vector gravity. If this is not clear for everyone what is established and what is speculative, then we can lose our way. Then, I think that we have to make a new physical assumption. Albert Einstein thought that the quantum mechanics was deterministic and that there were hidden variables. Today, we know with the Bell test experiments that this assumption is false. The quantum gravity tends to prove that gravitation is quantum. Somehow, this is the opposite idea of the one of Albert Einstein. We know that the General Relativity is non-renormalizable and this is a big problem. Does it mean that gravitation is really a continuous theory? I think so. For instance, I don't think that our space is a juxtaposition of several space quanta. Nevertheless, we need the unity of Physics. This is the reason why I suggest that photons are the fundamental and primordial element. They can carry both theories: the quantum mechanics and the relativity.

          Emmanuel

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          Edwin, Emmanuel,

          Is it possible that electromagnetic fields do interact among themselves at very low levels, possibly having an effect on vacuum fluctuation.

          As a hypothetical question, what if light has traveled much further than the current 13.7 billion years considered and it was redshifted as an optical effect. Wouldn't all the radiation redshifted to the very end of the infrared end of the spectrum show up as black body radiation?

          What would happen if this radiation started to exceed certain levels, such as 3.7k. Could interactions start to occur?

          An interesting study to keep an eye on:

          http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-statistical-cosmic.html

            Dear John,

            Every kind of waves can interact each other; it is the phenomenon of interference.

            There are two distinct phenomena in your post.

            The first one is the redshift that gives information about the velocity (or gravitation due to the equivalence principle) between the object that emits the light and the observers that receive the light. As we observe a general redshift from stars, we conclude that the universe is expanding according to the General Relativity. The novelty is that this expansion is accelerating. This can be modeled by a cosmological constant in the Einstein's field equations and it is probably in relation with the vacuum energy but, as I explained before, there is mystery due to a big discrepancy between the observed value of the cosmological constant and the vacuum energy.

            The second one is the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation. It is an indirect proof of the Big Bang theory.

            I don't understand if you think that there is a relation between the (CMB) radiation and the vacuum energy. As far as I am concerned, I don't know.

            Emmanuel

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            Emmanuel,

            I understand vacuum energy as that which permeates space and cosmic background radiation as the black body radiation emanating from the edge of the visible universe.

            I guess it's obvious that I'm one of those who thinks Big Bang Theory, Inflationary Cosmology, or any other versions of the model are wrong and am looking for insights into how to otherwise explain the observed phenomena. Since it rests on the assumption that the only way light can be redshifted is by recession alone, this involves considering the nature of light and why I'm bothering you about it.

            A question I would raise for you to think about, since you do seem to have been educated within the school that Big Bang theory is past the point of debate:

            Originally it was assumed to be a normal expansion, but since it is observed that redshift is proportional to distance and there is no lateral motion to match redshift, it appeared that we are at the center of the universe, so the theory was changed to say that space itself expands, such that everything is pushed away from everything else, resulting in the isotropic appearance of every point being the center of its own view of the universe.

            The problem I have with this is that the speed of light remains constant. According to the BBT, if two sources are x lightyears apart and the universe doubled in size, they would be 2x lightyears apart.

            What, if the very fabric of space is being stretched, determines lightspeed? It provides a constant measure of distance. If space is being stretched, how does this measure remain constant?

            Consider that with the normal Doppler effect, space is not being created by the train moving. It is simply putting space that was in front of it, behind it. Same for those galaxies. If they are redshifted according to the Doppler effect, they are not creating space, but moving away in it.

            This then gets back to the problem of our position appearing as the center of the universe. If there is some sort of optical effect, rather than the actual recession of these galaxies, it would be quite logical that redshift is proportional to distance and there is no lateral motion to match.

            Consider the effect of gravity bending light. This is an optical effect. That distant star, as it moves beyond the sun, does not actually shift back and forth. Merely the path of its light is bent. It makes far more sense that these distant galaxies are not actually moving away because we observe their light to be redshifted. So my quest is to consider what other factors could cause this light to become redshifted over such enormous distances.

            Do we really understand all the properties of light to construct such a fantastical model of the universe and keep adding even more fantastical patches, from Inflation to Dark energy, in order to hold it together. It seems like a fairly classical case of herd behavior causing mass delusion. As has happened all to often in human history.