Dear Sreenath,
Thank you for reading the article. If it is true that everything came from one singularity or single source, then all paths (science, vedantha, philosophy, mathematics) should merge back at the point or singualrity to realize that truth. We may take different paths to get there, but when we get there it is the singularity or Advaitha.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Tommy,
Singualrity is absolutely nothing literally as it is neither matter nor energy but the source of them both. Please feel free to annihilate the thoughts expressed and that is the right path towards singularity, in time when all else in us is anhilated you will realize the truth, you will expereince a void of singularity and then you will be filled with love. I wish you all the best on your journey.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Sreenath,
I would like to say this about wisdom,
Wisdom is more important than imagination and imagination is more important than knowledge, for we have to choose wisely from what we can imagine to make it reality and that becomes knowledge for the next generation.
Art of choosing wisely is a life long endeavour which we all have to pursue.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Hopefully, when you went to my thread, you realized that this is totally a joke and the opposite of my comments on your essay in my thread, which where good.
And so, you and I will be the only two people who really understand your comment above, which is a perfect restatement of the irony therein. And thank you. I must clarify that becuase humour is absent around these parts, seems like, and gets quite misunderstood.
Personally would much rather be an observer than particpant in these contests if the way my own thread is going is the Way of the Contest...
I though it was about truth, no demonstrations of the mastery of Aristotle's Rhetoric!
Thanks again for you essay.
Dear Tommy,
I inside all of us is like a child who likes to be playful and as a father of 3 I can totally understand your spirit. Universe is the eternal play of singularity and everything is welcome in loving spirit. I thank you again for sharing and expressing your thoughts. All we have to do is keep playing with love in our hearts.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Tommy,
"I though it was about truth, no demonstrations of the mastery of Aristotle's Rhetoric!" I would like to say this about your comment in a good spirit of sharing.
All who are born as humans will go through this introspection process again and again until they realize the truth. And this process will lead to thoughts and expressions which might all seem Rhetoric in the hind sight. This is similar to a new born human kid learning alphabets through a phd if he or she wills. For a teacher who has completed this learning it might not be anything new, but he continues to share the knowledge out of love. There were, there are and there will be many people who have realized this truth of love and dedicate their lives in teaching. I hope one day we can contribute to this tradition as well.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Sir,
We do not understand the purpose of your writing the essay. May be it is our ignorance. In that case, we request you to kindly remove our doubts and enlighten us.
If there is absolutely nothing, then why do you describe so many things without clarifying with proof (and not unproven postulates or sermons) how those are nothing? How do you prove "Reality as it seems can be termed as implementation of imagination." Apparently, reality and imagination are contradictory notions. Thus your statement appears to be an oxymoron.
If "I am the sum total of my thoughts", then what about the body and all inert objects, who apparently cannot "think". If "I is the calculator", does it calculate taking into account the body also? If so, how do you define the body and what is the mechanism of this "calculation"? Calculation is a type of programming and you are fully aware that imaginary numbers cannot be used in programming. Thus, if body is imaginary, "I" cannot calculate taking the body into account. How do you explain this?
You say: "Thoughts travel faster than light. S=BM^2 (S-Soul, B-Body, M-Mind)." What is the Soul? How do you prove this equation? Who measured the velocity of thought?
You say: "we are our inner most self (singularity)". What is "self"? At singularity, the known laws of physics collapse. If we are singularity, then known laws of physics should not be applicable to us. But this is contrary to observation. Kindly reconcile. If you say that our observations are faulty, then the natural question arises is your observation is also faulty. Secondly, how did you know that our observations are faulty? What is the proof (no sermon please)? We can go on and on.
Lots of people indulge in name dropping to impress others and talk in apparently mystical languages to impress general public. This gives the land and its culture a bad name. There are many discredited self-proclaimed "God Men". Thus, kindly give a scientific reply or else refrain from maligning this sacred land and its noble culture. After all, it is a scientific forum and science demands proof not sermons.
Regards,
basudeba
P.S.: Lot of people including the late Raja Ramanna invoke Adwait without knowing its fundamentals. They may personally benefit in public esteem temporarily, but ultimately perish.
Dear Basudeba,
I expressed what I experienced inside of me on my journey or course of life on this planet. As a matter of fact, there are no words to describe this experience but just keep absolute silence and I am extremely sorry if I have offended you in any way on your path of realizing the truth. If it is true that the universe is created in a big bang and everything that exists came out of that one absolute moment, then it should also be true that we should all converge back at that truth. Science (physics and mathematics), philosophy, spirituality (intro spection) are just different path towards realizing that truth. As you have asked I would like to add a few more words to what I have experienced and unless one expereince this one self, one will not understand what I say.
By absolutely nothing or singularity, I meant it is not a thing made up of matter or energy that we usually talk of in physics, I just know that it exists every where. If we just look around we can easily see that everything that seems real was an imagination a while ago. For instance the language, technology, even physics and mathematics are part of our imagination. The key word here is "implementation or materialization" of the thoughts. It is only space-time that is differentiating reality from imagination and at the moment of creation there is no delta between the two and that is singularity. When one realizes the singularity with in one self the delta ceases and one becomes the creator of reality.
If we cannot measure something it does not mean that it does not exist. Everything has a mind and nothing is mind itself. As humans we have misunderstood the power of thought and assume that we are the only ones capaple of thinking. It is only the degree of thought that is different in us, everything living and non living has mind associated with it. As a software programmer, I can give you an anology of what I mean. If we were to create Artificial Intelligence in a simulated network and the objects could understand themselves fully they would realize that they are just memory locations with some processing power and that every other object (animate and inanimate) is similar to them at th most fundamental level which is just another memory location. It is just that the beings of AI have acquired properties and behaviour and started to distinguish themselves from the memory and other objects. That moment of realization by an Artificial Intelligent being is also like attaining singularity or enlightenment. This is all what Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Shirdi Sai have realized that we are all one and the same at the fundamental level. Is'nt this what we are trying to understand in physics and mathematics? Spirituality is a science of the self.
Physics arises out of singualrity or the common sense or I in ALL of us. It is the purpose of physics is to understand singularity and when it does it has met its goal. Physics does not break down at singularity, it just merges with it. To the question of what is "self", everything in this universe is just one self or singularity and you can expereince it only when you merge your self in this feeling. Realize that it is only "I" that exists. I or singularity or conscience holds the universe together with the gravity of love and that is why gravity seems to be a weaker force in the relativistic universe. Gravity of love is the strongest force in absolute universe.
Thoughts travel faster than light, I or singularity thinks there will be a tomorrow and the light follows. The day I stops thinking there will be no tomorrow. Our life and death are proofs for what I had to convey.
My intent is to only share the joy and amazement of being able to experience the truth in all of us. I am thankful to "I" in Basudeba for invoking good questions and letting us express these thoughts.
PS: I am one of our kind, I "is" every one of all kinds.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear sridattadev,
Thanks for your openion on my article.Iam amazed by your indepth knowledge of Vedantha.Science,infact,moves from Effect to Cause and not vice-versa because it observes only effect and then based on its wisdom of effect it tries to interpret the cause.Then this cause itself becomes the effect and the process continues till the Last or Ultimate Cause is reached.Whether this is reachable or not is another matter but in that endeavour lies the spirit of science and,I strongly believe,spirituality of man and his wisdom.
Today itself Iam going to read your article.Till then good bye.
I,sincerely,wish you too success in your pursuit of wisdom.
Thanks
Sreenath B N.
Dear All,
I would like to elucidate on S=BM^2 as follows
S is (Soul or Singularity or Absolutely nothing or I or Conscience or God)
B is (Body or matter or mass or physical entity or reality)
M is (Mind or energy or virtual entity)
2 is (To be or not to be)
Absolutely nothing = Everything.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Sir,
There is no question of our feelings being hurt by some Essay because we are not personally affected by that. But we are surely hurt when someone distorts the Shastras thereby giving it a bad name. And many people do just that for temporary name and fame.
Big bang is an action. An action can take place in two ways: as a chain reaction to an initial action or induced action by a conscious agent. In our essay we have described how Uncertainty is a law of Nature only to the extent it is related to our system of measurement, but not in the same way as it is generally described by modern physics. Secondly we have shown it does not contradict causality. Thus, the initial action that led to the big bang needs an explanation. But no one is answering that question scientifically. We have a detailed mechanism for that and we will publish it soon. We derive all fundamental forces of Nature from the same initial action and describe the evolutionary process as its bye-product.
If by 'truth' you mean the accurate description of the said mechanism that governs from the big bang to the big crunch, you are correct. Then you have not described that mechanism. But if you use the term 'satya' to describe truth (like that in 'satyameva jayate'), then you have not understood its meaning. It has been used in a composite sense (sa ti yam) here (called saanketika), which has a very important scientific meaning.
Singularity is not the same as absolutely nothing. It only refers to a state that exists (thus not nothing), but cannot be described using the known laws of physics or as you describe it: "a thing made up of matter or energy that we usually talk of in physics". But then you contradict yourself by saying that: "I just know that it exists every where." If "absolutely nothing or singularity" "exists every where", how do you talk about "a thing made up of matter or energy"? Regarding your use of the term reality and imagination, please refer to the definition of reality and measurement in our essay. We thing you are describing "sama rasa" or "eka rasa", which is said to be a characteristic of "Brahman", as singularity. But if it is so, then that description is wrong. Nowhere the Shastras say "Jaganmithyaa".
Perception is the result of measurement using our instruments of sensory perception. Only when this information is processed, it leads to perception. Without perception, the object does not exist for us, though it may exist for others. There is nothing like "universal non-existence". Before you say: "Everything has a mind and nothing is mind itself", you must define mind and prove your statement. We assert that it is a misleading statement. Artificial Intelligence is nothing but programming and all programming is gigo - garbage in, garbage out. Unless the programmer has the complete knowledge, he cannot design and program devices that "could understand themselves fully they would realize that they are just memory locations with some processing power and that every other object (animate and inanimate) is similar to them at the most fundamental level which is just another memory location." "Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Shirdi Sai" gave the philosophy of life. But we are discussing physics.
You have equated I with singularity without explaining how I could be the same as singularity. There is no proof to substantiate your statement that: "I or singularity thinks there will be a tomorrow and the light follows. The day I stops thinking there will be no tomorrow." But there is proof to the contrary. If I think tomorrow will never come, it will be proved wrong. You have still not given any proof that "Thoughts travel faster than light. S=BM^2 (S-Soul, B-Body, M-Mind)." You may refer to Yajurveda, which also speaks of "manaso javiya", which means faster than the mind.
Thus, please stop meddling in science while meddling with sermons without a proper understanding of the Shastras. Otherwise it gives both the sermons and the science behind it a bad name.
Nothing personal.
Regards,
basudeba
Dear Sir,
Please do not invoke Vedanta without properly understanding it and then malign it directly by its wrong interpretation or indirectly by invoking it in the wrong places to show off your knowledge.
For your kind information, Vedanta is also called Uttara Mimaamsaa. Along with Poorva Mimaamsaa, it forms a complimentary pair. The term Mimaamsaa means resolution of apparent contradictions. Poorva Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Brahmana granthas. Uttara Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Upanishads. Before invoking Vedanta, you must understand all the Upanishads with reference to the Vedas and find out the apparent contradictions. Then only you can understand Vedanta. Otherwise you will end up only in maligning it.
Regards,
basudeba.
Dear Sir,
We have discussed your above "equation" in our earlier comments. Please give scientific proof and not sermons.
Regards,
basudeba.
dear sridattadev kancharla,
energy quanta are a think of the past! we need "A World Without Quanta"! and you can make that critical difference to help bring it about. cast your approval for a world that makes sense and bring this essay out of the cusp of 'being or not being'! the results are deeply significant and totally iconoclastic. but we need to bring this essay to the 'church' on time! you among others will be better for it!
all the best,
constantinos
Dear Basudeba,
I did my bachelors and master of science in chemical engineering and currently well settled and working as a software engineer in USA. I have never read any Shastras or Vedas, except for some quintessential poems that my father taught me as a kid which I mentioned in one of my comments above. My mother is Principal of a medical college and my father is head of Biochemistry department and both are medical doctors. My wife is a doctoral scientist in molecular biology. I am a father of 3 beautiful kids and I do not need any fame or name or money that comes along with it. I myself have followed several theoritical physics observations and presentations about the universe and felt that they are all left wanting for the truth.
I do not consider myself associated with any religion, but I can tell this that all religions are trying to convey the same truth which scientists of theoritical physics and mathematics are trying to convey in different language. I am just trying to connect these paths at the truth of singularity thats all. I have been through several personal experiences in life which have lead me to the path of realizing the truth inside all of us. I am (ego of my body and my mind) already dead, only I or singualrity lives. I am doing this job of expressing the truth as I inside me directs me to do it. My job is done even if at least one person reads what I conveyed and understands and experiences the singularity of love, I will continue in that person.
You are right about Big Bang, it is not the begining of the universe and there is no end to universe as it is infinite. I can now say that I know absolutely nothing and only absolutely nothing is infinite.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Basudeba,
One has to let go off ones body and mind to understand what I say. In normal reality it means one has to accept death to understand singularity. We have the proof with in us (death or black hole), it is only a matter of space and time when one realizes it.
Please experience the
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear Constantinos,
I have read your essay "A world with out quanta" and undestand your point of view. The new prime physis eta you have described is yet another beautiful attempt to symbolize the singularity or absolutely nothing or I. It is out of singularity or I that everything emerges. This prime source of singularity is beyond matter and energy and there are no words or symbols to describe it but can be experienced in all of us. Generations have come before us and will come after us and will try to understand the universe as external observers, until one merges one self fully and realizes that one is the observer and the observed (singualrity), they will not fully comprehend the truth. Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Shirdi Sai were all great teachers who have realized this truth of singularity and tried to share the joy of love and lead us in the right direction on our journey on this planet. We as humans are straying away from the path of love and leading towards total destruction. I hope that someday all the sciences and religions converge at the ultimate truth of singularity (Analog) and make this world a better place for all the living beings on this planet or else there will be no more us (duality or digital) as we will be merged back with singularity anyways.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Sridattadev
A Beautiful essay. Thank you, there seems much stress and discord from some here at times, and more should read yours. But should a theory of everything not include eternal life? Quite accidentally through my logical model of discrete fields, I have found a scientific theory, as logical conclusion, showing how it can work in reality. If time passes instantly when we die, we will reawaken immediately. Of course many of the sane and serious here would consider that nonsense, and my essay very seriously finds unity between Special Relativity and Quantum mechanics, leading to General Relativity. I beleive it opens major opportunity for overdue advancement.
I hope you'll read it. http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/803 I hope you can find the solution (you need high skills of conceptual dynamic visualisation), but if not go on the the paper I refer to, which may explain better. http://vixra.org/abs/1102.0016
Peace and love eternally
Peter
Dear Peter,
I have read your wonderful article about recycling nature of the universe and that is the truth. One who fully understands this truth is immortal and lives eternally. Life is love. One who is not loving is already dead. Jesus understood this better than any one of his times and tried to convey the message of love. We in this so called modern scientific age are ignorant of the fundamental truth of life or love and are fighting in the name of race and religion. I have explained how the recycling happens with in ourselves at the below link, which corresponds to the external scientific observations being made.
Love,
Sridattadev.
Dear All,
I am concluding my conversations in this contest and these are my final thoughts regarding our quest to realize the truth. Now that I know absolutely nothing, I do not care for how many dimensions there are or what reality is made of. I have come up with n-sphere representation of the universe, so as to put a conclusion to enquiry in to the unknown. I have said in the original essay, there is no space unless one chooses to measure and there is no time until one chooses to count. If we just look around at all other different species of living beings on this planet, this simple truth becomes apparent. We are caught up in this black hole of quest to realize how everything works and ignoring the beauty of the singularity of love in all of us. I hope if we just start loving and caring for each other and other beings on this plaent we will be in more touch with reality (be it analog mode or digital mode) and that is the closest we can get to the ultimate truth of love.
Be in Love to Rest in Peace,
Sridattadev.