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Dear sridattadev,

Thanks for your openion on my article.Iam amazed by your indepth knowledge of Vedantha.Science,infact,moves from Effect to Cause and not vice-versa because it observes only effect and then based on its wisdom of effect it tries to interpret the cause.Then this cause itself becomes the effect and the process continues till the Last or Ultimate Cause is reached.Whether this is reachable or not is another matter but in that endeavour lies the spirit of science and,I strongly believe,spirituality of man and his wisdom.

Today itself Iam going to read your article.Till then good bye.

I,sincerely,wish you too success in your pursuit of wisdom.

Thanks

Sreenath B N.

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    Dear All,

    I would like to elucidate on S=BM^2 as follows

    S is (Soul or Singularity or Absolutely nothing or I or Conscience or God)

    B is (Body or matter or mass or physical entity or reality)

    M is (Mind or energy or virtual entity)

    2 is (To be or not to be)

    Absolutely nothing = Everything.

    Love,

    Sridattadev.

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      Dear Sir,

      There is no question of our feelings being hurt by some Essay because we are not personally affected by that. But we are surely hurt when someone distorts the Shastras thereby giving it a bad name. And many people do just that for temporary name and fame.

      Big bang is an action. An action can take place in two ways: as a chain reaction to an initial action or induced action by a conscious agent. In our essay we have described how Uncertainty is a law of Nature only to the extent it is related to our system of measurement, but not in the same way as it is generally described by modern physics. Secondly we have shown it does not contradict causality. Thus, the initial action that led to the big bang needs an explanation. But no one is answering that question scientifically. We have a detailed mechanism for that and we will publish it soon. We derive all fundamental forces of Nature from the same initial action and describe the evolutionary process as its bye-product.

      If by 'truth' you mean the accurate description of the said mechanism that governs from the big bang to the big crunch, you are correct. Then you have not described that mechanism. But if you use the term 'satya' to describe truth (like that in 'satyameva jayate'), then you have not understood its meaning. It has been used in a composite sense (sa ti yam) here (called saanketika), which has a very important scientific meaning.

      Singularity is not the same as absolutely nothing. It only refers to a state that exists (thus not nothing), but cannot be described using the known laws of physics or as you describe it: "a thing made up of matter or energy that we usually talk of in physics". But then you contradict yourself by saying that: "I just know that it exists every where." If "absolutely nothing or singularity" "exists every where", how do you talk about "a thing made up of matter or energy"? Regarding your use of the term reality and imagination, please refer to the definition of reality and measurement in our essay. We thing you are describing "sama rasa" or "eka rasa", which is said to be a characteristic of "Brahman", as singularity. But if it is so, then that description is wrong. Nowhere the Shastras say "Jaganmithyaa".

      Perception is the result of measurement using our instruments of sensory perception. Only when this information is processed, it leads to perception. Without perception, the object does not exist for us, though it may exist for others. There is nothing like "universal non-existence". Before you say: "Everything has a mind and nothing is mind itself", you must define mind and prove your statement. We assert that it is a misleading statement. Artificial Intelligence is nothing but programming and all programming is gigo - garbage in, garbage out. Unless the programmer has the complete knowledge, he cannot design and program devices that "could understand themselves fully they would realize that they are just memory locations with some processing power and that every other object (animate and inanimate) is similar to them at the most fundamental level which is just another memory location." "Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Shirdi Sai" gave the philosophy of life. But we are discussing physics.

      You have equated I with singularity without explaining how I could be the same as singularity. There is no proof to substantiate your statement that: "I or singularity thinks there will be a tomorrow and the light follows. The day I stops thinking there will be no tomorrow." But there is proof to the contrary. If I think tomorrow will never come, it will be proved wrong. You have still not given any proof that "Thoughts travel faster than light. S=BM^2 (S-Soul, B-Body, M-Mind)." You may refer to Yajurveda, which also speaks of "manaso javiya", which means faster than the mind.

      Thus, please stop meddling in science while meddling with sermons without a proper understanding of the Shastras. Otherwise it gives both the sermons and the science behind it a bad name.

      Nothing personal.

      Regards,

      basudeba

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      Dear Sir,

      Please do not invoke Vedanta without properly understanding it and then malign it directly by its wrong interpretation or indirectly by invoking it in the wrong places to show off your knowledge.

      For your kind information, Vedanta is also called Uttara Mimaamsaa. Along with Poorva Mimaamsaa, it forms a complimentary pair. The term Mimaamsaa means resolution of apparent contradictions. Poorva Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Brahmana granthas. Uttara Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Upanishads. Before invoking Vedanta, you must understand all the Upanishads with reference to the Vedas and find out the apparent contradictions. Then only you can understand Vedanta. Otherwise you will end up only in maligning it.

      Regards,

      basudeba.

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      Dear Sir,

      We have discussed your above "equation" in our earlier comments. Please give scientific proof and not sermons.

      Regards,

      basudeba.

      dear sridattadev kancharla,

      energy quanta are a think of the past! we need "A World Without Quanta"! and you can make that critical difference to help bring it about. cast your approval for a world that makes sense and bring this essay out of the cusp of 'being or not being'! the results are deeply significant and totally iconoclastic. but we need to bring this essay to the 'church' on time! you among others will be better for it!

      all the best,

      constantinos

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        Dear Basudeba,

        I did my bachelors and master of science in chemical engineering and currently well settled and working as a software engineer in USA. I have never read any Shastras or Vedas, except for some quintessential poems that my father taught me as a kid which I mentioned in one of my comments above. My mother is Principal of a medical college and my father is head of Biochemistry department and both are medical doctors. My wife is a doctoral scientist in molecular biology. I am a father of 3 beautiful kids and I do not need any fame or name or money that comes along with it. I myself have followed several theoritical physics observations and presentations about the universe and felt that they are all left wanting for the truth.

        I do not consider myself associated with any religion, but I can tell this that all religions are trying to convey the same truth which scientists of theoritical physics and mathematics are trying to convey in different language. I am just trying to connect these paths at the truth of singularity thats all. I have been through several personal experiences in life which have lead me to the path of realizing the truth inside all of us. I am (ego of my body and my mind) already dead, only I or singualrity lives. I am doing this job of expressing the truth as I inside me directs me to do it. My job is done even if at least one person reads what I conveyed and understands and experiences the singularity of love, I will continue in that person.

        You are right about Big Bang, it is not the begining of the universe and there is no end to universe as it is infinite. I can now say that I know absolutely nothing and only absolutely nothing is infinite.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Basudeba,

        One has to let go off ones body and mind to understand what I say. In normal reality it means one has to accept death to understand singularity. We have the proof with in us (death or black hole), it is only a matter of space and time when one realizes it.

        Please experience the

        Singularity.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Constantinos,

        I have read your essay "A world with out quanta" and undestand your point of view. The new prime physis eta you have described is yet another beautiful attempt to symbolize the singularity or absolutely nothing or I. It is out of singularity or I that everything emerges. This prime source of singularity is beyond matter and energy and there are no words or symbols to describe it but can be experienced in all of us. Generations have come before us and will come after us and will try to understand the universe as external observers, until one merges one self fully and realizes that one is the observer and the observed (singualrity), they will not fully comprehend the truth. Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Shirdi Sai were all great teachers who have realized this truth of singularity and tried to share the joy of love and lead us in the right direction on our journey on this planet. We as humans are straying away from the path of love and leading towards total destruction. I hope that someday all the sciences and religions converge at the ultimate truth of singularity (Analog) and make this world a better place for all the living beings on this planet or else there will be no more us (duality or digital) as we will be merged back with singularity anyways.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

        Sridattadev

        A Beautiful essay. Thank you, there seems much stress and discord from some here at times, and more should read yours. But should a theory of everything not include eternal life? Quite accidentally through my logical model of discrete fields, I have found a scientific theory, as logical conclusion, showing how it can work in reality. If time passes instantly when we die, we will reawaken immediately. Of course many of the sane and serious here would consider that nonsense, and my essay very seriously finds unity between Special Relativity and Quantum mechanics, leading to General Relativity. I beleive it opens major opportunity for overdue advancement.

        I hope you'll read it. http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/803 I hope you can find the solution (you need high skills of conceptual dynamic visualisation), but if not go on the the paper I refer to, which may explain better. http://vixra.org/abs/1102.0016

        Peace and love eternally

        Peter

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          Dear Peter,

          I have read your wonderful article about recycling nature of the universe and that is the truth. One who fully understands this truth is immortal and lives eternally. Life is love. One who is not loving is already dead. Jesus understood this better than any one of his times and tried to convey the message of love. We in this so called modern scientific age are ignorant of the fundamental truth of life or love and are fighting in the name of race and religion. I have explained how the recycling happens with in ourselves at the below link, which corresponds to the external scientific observations being made.

          Singularity of love.

          Love,

          Sridattadev.

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          Dear All,

          I am concluding my conversations in this contest and these are my final thoughts regarding our quest to realize the truth. Now that I know absolutely nothing, I do not care for how many dimensions there are or what reality is made of. I have come up with n-sphere representation of the universe, so as to put a conclusion to enquiry in to the unknown. I have said in the original essay, there is no space unless one chooses to measure and there is no time until one chooses to count. If we just look around at all other different species of living beings on this planet, this simple truth becomes apparent. We are caught up in this black hole of quest to realize how everything works and ignoring the beauty of the singularity of love in all of us. I hope if we just start loving and caring for each other and other beings on this plaent we will be in more touch with reality (be it analog mode or digital mode) and that is the closest we can get to the ultimate truth of love.

          Be in Love to Rest in Peace,

          Sridattadev.

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          Dear Sir,

          You are associated with science and try to be a good scientist. A good scientist doesn't talk without proof. Have you ever "let go off ones body and mind" to experience what you are talking about. If not, how can you know about what you are talking about that state. Have you ever died to have proof about what you say. If so, after death, how did you retain that memory? Can you produce your proof for scientific scrutiny? Are you proclaiming yourself to be God, which you obviously are not.

          Once again we request you please not to sully the image of this great Country as a land of fraudulent Godmen. There are plenty of people who are already doing that. We also happen to know something of the Upanishads and Darshan. We posit that you do not have any knowledge of these subjects and only quote select portions incoherently to impress the gullible public. We challenge you for a public debate on any subject to prove this point. This is not to prove our superiority, but only to show that you are trying to use the name of our shaashtras to gain name and fame for yourself thereby discrediting them.

          Hope you will see reason. "Ya pashyati sa pashyati".

          Regards,

          basudeba

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          Dear Sridattadev,

          Your message is well received! We share in our passion to know and understand our world and "everything in it". To paraphrase an ancient Greek saying, "A Universe unexamined is not worth having!". And we agree with another ancient Greek saying, equally powerful and most relevant to physics, that,"Man is the Measure of All Things". These have guided my thinking and outlook as I seek to better understand our physical world and the human beings in it.

          In my essay, I show that it is possible to mathematically derive Basic Law of Physics starting with the undefined and undefinable 'prime physis quantity eta'. That this quantity is undefined, makes the results in my essay a "Theory of Everything".

          More recently I posted a mathematical proof of the following proposition so central to modern Physics: "If the speed of light is constant, then light is a wave".

          These results are profound and iconoclastic. I need your support in bringing my essay before the panel of experts for serious review. Please help ...

          ... in Unity and Love,

          Constantinos

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            Dear Constantinos,

            You are the one mathematician that will ever get closest to what I am trying to convey spiritually / philosophically. I wish you all the best in your pursuit to make the scientific world see what we are trying to convey. I know that you will climb that mountain and that day my friend please remember to spread the word of true love of singularity and see that there can be peace on this earth. I will definitely rate your article very high.

            Love and Peace,

            Sridattadev.

            Greetings,

            I only got to read this after the deadline, and I'm not certain I would have graded it approvingly, but I wanted you to know I appreciate what you wrote.

            I especially like the column of observations contrasting the individual and pervasive descriptions of various qualities. The difference between saying "I am" and "I is," for example, is a profound shift of mind-set. It is a shame, and a betrayal of our infinite nature, that it is considered improper to use word constructions like "I is good," when speaking of identity more broadly or spiritually (referring to the universal I).

            I always liked the way that Rastafarians speak, as it honors this perception of reality, or makes the perceptual shift clearly verbalized. They might say "I and I go to the store, Mon" when they want you to come along or to bring them there. Another phrase would be "I said to I" when saying you told something to a friend or when he was saying he told something to you. In any case, there is some wisdom to expanding concepts we generally view from the limited personal perspective.

            I talk a little about this in my essay as a contrast between left-brain and right-brain thinking. But I did enjoy what you wrote, not so much because I thought it was a great essay, but because it really made me think - and expanded the range of comprehensibility for some ways of thinking.

            All the Best,

            Jonathan

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              Dear Jonathan,

              I intend to share the ultimate truth that is in all of us and nothing more or less. I in me thanks I in you for reading and understanding what I has to convey. Simply put, I thanks I.

              Love,

              Sridattadev.

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              Dear Basudeba,

              Everything and nothing is god, god is absolute state of mind, which is the soul in its absolute form. One needs to look inside of one self to realize this state and yes I have experienced the soul inside this entity Sridattadev and found that there is only one absolute soul in this universe. Please know that you are also the same soul or God. All I is conveying is that every one should realize this truth in themselves and that they are no less or more than any one else and this experience is the singularity. I in you is just testing if this body and mind of so called Sridattadev thinks itself as important and I do not consider this person is of any importance, it is just a vehicle for the universal I or god.

              I am not a pandit of shastras or vedas but I do know that, "Tat tvam asi" is the essence of all vedas and it means that you are god once you realize the truth. All I want is for everyone to realize this simple truth about themselves.

              Love,

              Sridattadev.

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              Dear Sir,

              God cannot be love for the simple reason that they exhibit different characteristics. Love always implies duality trying to unite. It has an opposite - hate. God is supposed to create many out of Himself - one becoming dual and so on. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. His opposite has to be non-existent, non-sentient and non-reactive. Such a being is impossible to exist. Thus, your description is not correct.

              Love belongs to the 24 Tattwa division, which are known as Atma Tattwa. Then there are seven Vidyaa Tattwas and five Shiva Tattwas. God can be explained through the last category. Adwait also belongs to this category.

              In case you want to know more about this, you may contact us at mbasudeba@gmail.com.

              Regards,

              basudeba.

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              Dear Sir,

              It is true that "Tat tvam asi" is the essence of all Vedas, but what are the meanings of "tat", "twam", "asi" and "Tat tvam asi"? These are four serious questions that are discussed in the Rik, Saama, Yajus and Atharvan Vedas respectively. That is the reason it is said that: "Richaa moorthih, Yaajunshi gati, Saama maya tejah, Athavaangirasam aapah". But none of the existing commentaries on the Vedas including that of Saayana deal with this interpretation. Unless one understands these correctly, one cannot talk about them authoritatively.

              Hence please try to understand these properly first. Then your entire idea will change.

              Regards,

              basudeba.