Peter,

As Constantinos implies above, intuitively we all want an 'ether' of some kind for the waves to 'wave' in.

As you know, my essay is based on the gravity field existing initially. After symmetry breaks the 'gravito-magnetic' aspect of this field appears, providing an inflationary force and interacting with itself in turbulent fashion to give rise to elementary particles. These particles, some of which are charged, produce electro-magnetic fields or photons.

In my view, the gravity field has 'fluid-like' properties, and there is no reason that is obvious to me that this 'fluid' would not support electro-magnetic 'waves'. Remember that all fields have energy, and energy has mass, so there is some 'substantial' character to the gravitational field to support electro-magnetic 'undulations'.

If this were the case, then the 'ether' that Michelson and Morley tested would actually be the local gravity field, and this would (as compatible with your 'discrete frame' based system) be local in character, not globally 'absolute' (in a Machian sense) as the 'luminiferous ether' was assumed to be at the time.

From the perspective of these local discrete frames Michelson and Morley found exactly what would be expected, since they only rotated their arms in a horizontal plane. And testing at different locations and different times of the year, as they did, would produce no different results.

Of course Pound and Rebka did find that a photon traveling vertically in the earth's gravity is shifted, but that is fully compatible with the 'time dilation' equation in my essay. And for the photons observed during a solar eclipse, the photon will blue shift as it falls into the solar gravity well, then redshift as it climbs back out (compatible with my "GEM and the Constant Speed of Light" paper referenced above). So the photons that we observe on earth are approximately what we expect them to be.

Do you see any immediate problem that I am overlooking?

Something to think about.

Edwin Eugene Klingman

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Edwin,

Thanks for your comment. I have taken a quick look at the paper you linked, but I didn't find the answers I was looking for. Let me explain. Explaining physical phenomena mathematically is certainly necessary and unavoidable, but the kind of explanations I am looking for are 'physical explanations' that make sense ("what is the physical picture", as Einstein once asked of Bohr).

Thus, to my question, if we consider that light is made of photon particles moving in empty space, how in this 'physical view' can we account for photons 'picking up speed' after being slowed down going through a medium like glass. I didn't see that answer in the equations you've written.

Also, I am likewise having trouble making sense of Discrete Fields. These don't quite feel philosophically complete to me. If there is such a field around each and every discrete particle in the Universe, what is in between their 'boundaries'? Or, if each field meets each other field in boundaries which are mutual and there is nothing (no space) between such boundaries, then this raises serious questions about what constitutes such boundaries. Wont they need to have some 'physicality' to be physically real? The very notion of a field to me is just a mathematical idea. It is a mathematical abstraction.

But the most important of the questions in my previous post is 'what is the physical mechanism for the propagation of waves in space'? I don't see how Discrete Fields answer this. The very term, Discrete Fields, seems to me paradoxical. It is an interesting way of combining two antithetical notions. But are we creating a conceptual contortion or a true conceptual synthesis? I am keeping an open mind.

Constantinos

Constantinos,

You might want to spend more time looking at the GEM paper. It is a "physical" explanation. The "del cross field" describes the circulation of a field around something (in this case the momentum vector of the photon E cross B) and the Lenz-like-law (last equation on page 2) is the mechanism that explains "how in this 'physical view' can we account for photons 'picking up speed' after being slowed down going through a medium like glass".

To augment the math, try to imagine the 'cylinders' shown on page 4 as holding a constant amount of 'action' (given by Plank's constant) and realize that to do so, as the wave-length changes, the radius of the cylinder must change to hold the action constant. You might think of the wavelength as essentially a measure of 'time dilation' when the wavelength returns to its "free space length" then the time returns to its "free space" value, restoring the "free space" speed of light. The cylinder radius is a measure of the C-field circulation, connected to the wavelength through the equation.

At the very least, I hope it's 'physically' clear that the associated circulation of the C-field provides a means of 'saving and restoring' that is otherwise missing from the picture.

As for 'discrete fields' what Peter has done is break up the "whole universe" into domains, so that local physics might apply in a domain that is at least conceptually disconnected from other domains. What I have shown is that the local C-field is "connected at the hip" to the local momentum.

Of course, sense you don't believe in physical fields, I guess none of this makes any sense to you.

I can't imagine what you do believe in, since if your 'eta' is not a field like entity, I have no idea what you conceive it to be.

Edwin Eugene Klingman

Peter,

You manage to pack a lot of mystery into a few references. Does the proto-star, HH-34, have jets or is that a quasar from the black hole revealed by the debris around the event horizon (head of first jet). What makes you think that donut is an accretion disk or am I looking in the wrong place?

Then you seem to delight in opening the "axis of evil" Pandora's box without giving me the cosmic "GPS coordinates" for finding the BH in the center of the universe.

Hasn't the Planck mission disproved the "axis of evil" yet?

The fun continues.

Regards,

Jim

James

You ask; "Does the proto-star, HH-34, have jets or is that a quasar from the black hole revealed by the debris around the event horizon (head of first jet). What makes you think that donut is an accretion disk or am I looking in the wrong place?

and Re; "GPS coordinates" for finding the BH in the center of the universe.. ..Hasn't the Planck mission disproved the "axis of evil" yet?"

HH34 IS a Quasar James, (or 'Blazar/Gamma Burst/Radio Source/Pulsar' - there's much confusion!). The jet heads aren't what's termed 'event horizon's. The closest thing to that is probably the lensed (curved and magnified) light around the toroid form (from stars behind the BH). Quasars have two contra flow jets, which often spiral as a toroid is symmetrical. The jet heads are the plasma (ion) clouds condensed as the superluminal plasma jets hit the continuum (energy) medium and are slowed down to the local 'c'. Condensed matter shouldn't be too much to swallow, we do it every meal time!

Look at the Chandra IR photo of the centre of the crab nebula (there it's termed a 'neutron star'), but the black hole toroid is exactly the same shape and much more clearly visible. Does all that make more sense now?.

Peter

James

Ooops, sorry - I forgot the 'axis of evil'. It was the SloaneDSS and Plank missions that picked it up! It just needs someone with a decent telescope to follow the axis and find the centre of the universe, which should look just like the ESO photo in the essay, much bigger but further away, and probably no more active that the crab nebula one at present (see the weak jets).

Did you pick up the point about the 2nd jet to HH34, it's so red shifted it's outside our visible range past the IR, which is why it's termed a 'radio source'. Do we have an astronomer in the house whose got over the dumping of Freemans Law?

Peter

Constantinos

Ballistic photons can easily change course at sharp angles and instantly speed up when you have your head in the sand! Lena Hau etc. can make them go from 0mph to 'c' (coming out of BEC) on the spot, and all with zero mass/energy! The whole thing is a nonsense of course. It's well known in Optics that Huygens Construction is the solution, extending through Fourier optics, which is lucky for us, as fibre optics wouldn't work otherwise! The lack of knowledge of optics of most physicists is astonishing. Does anyone here understand Ewald-Oseen extinction?

I agree entirely with 2.9 of your 3 points. (I'll double check I've scored your essay as I note it's way below where it should be!) Point 2 (accumulation) needs some expansion as the delay before 'Stokes' scattering is about polarisation as well as charge (Polarisation Mode Dispersal- PMD) Just look at Birefringence, which shows delay (Fresnel's 'n') is subject to relative polarisation of the light and the medium).

Also; "More generally, what is the mechanism by which waves propagate through a medium? I don't mean a 'mathematical model'!"

It's 'Atomic Scattering' Kostas. The QED version is simply electrons absorbing photons and 're-emitting' (actually emitting shiny new ones, which consist of, may be part of, and/or 'evaporate to' waves) - as you say, or particles being charged and 'scattering' waves, as you also say. The big mistake is not understanding that this is at 'c' wrt to particle even it it (the medium) is moving wrt it's local background (i.e. 'arrival rate'). It's been a configuration/ communication failure of the quantum particles in our brains. This also explains why most are so confused about the difference between concrete and apparent reality, i.e. that we're seeing scattered light at 'c', yet it's 'apparent' rate of progress CAN be c plus v. without actual violation of 'c'. (Local Reality).

And ; "Recently I have been thinking about your Discrete Field. I am trying to make sense of how this fits with continuous propagation of energy. Can you elaborate?"

Yes. Field boundaries are made of plasma (ions) and where there is relative motion they change f and lambda via 'n', (as above) to maintain 'c' and E locally. i.e. light takes the same time to get through a glass of beer whether or not you slide it down the bar or drink it on a plane, but your OBSERVER FRAME is different! That bit's in the viXra paper; http://vixra.org/abs/1102.0016

or watch the simple video; http://fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/1_YouTube__Dilation.htm

But be warned, it does take much conceptual intellect as our brains aren't used to picturing and manipulating moving variables. Once you think you have it, rehearse it to build the memory path or you'll loose it again! (Christian Doppler did the maths long ago, but don't let abstraction confuse you). Just keep thinking wave particle interaction.

I understand you philosophical confusion, but once you have it in your mind it's simple. Particles don't have their own inertial frames 'fields' if they're not moving (nothing does). But, in an accelerator we can SEE the ion clouds forming with increased speed. Now just Google 'Plasmasphere' (or follow one of my Ref's) - it's the same thing. Then the same for Galactic Halo's (reputedly holding over 90% of galactic mass!) many kiloparsecs deep and at densities giving the exact refraction needed to match curved space/time (and a = g).

Let me know how your brain gets on!

Best wishes

Peter

    Edwin

    Yes, a few points (and congrats for your excellent position!!).

    1. I haven't been sure if there is an actual gravitational effect from the field itself, the particles are propagated to implement the effects of gravity, i.e. diffracting em waves due to 'n' to create the effects of curved space time. But the energy for the ions must come from somewhere, so logically it would leave an energy deficiency with the same curve as 'gravity'. I discussed it in an early paper, but was probably floundering; did I pass it to you? http://vixra.org/abs/1001.0010

    The field certainly has 'limited compressibility' (which I think Planck suggested when supporting the Stokes/Fresnel/Heaviside original iteration of the DFM; 'Full Ether Drag' - never disproved, and supported by M&M!

    2. What may really be needed is a catchy word for the 'condensate' or 'C' Field. As most Science seems still to be based on the eternal triangle of Belief/Maths/Fashion, which excludes logic, perhaps we should play that game and slip the logic in unnoticed. 'Continuum' seems the most common, but is wrong. "Dis-continuum" is too long, 'ether' is out of fashion, Inter-whatever medium doesn't work overall. The mind boggles but nothing stands out. I don't see 'C Field' as adequately self explanatory for a PR job. What do you think? ..Anyone else any ideas?

    3. Last Point (Pound-Rebka etc). In the DFM the whole process is wave particle interaction, i.e. FM, (as in your radio) via diffraction. Our atmosphere is stuffed full of ions at increasing densities!" this is a real solid material physical, reproducable and measurable process - producing inertial frames and everything SR and GR does, via a Quantum Mechanism. (and lots more rewarding work for unemployed string theorist to do!) I hope the C field is consistent with that as thinking it through it gives Unification, ToE, cheap slimming pills, what else is there?

    Thoughts?

    Peter

      James

      I think 'echo of the big bank' is a misleading propagandic crock. This is not mainstream science (till about 2020), but listen to those at the top not the 'midrift bulge' of sheep.

      The CMB radiation we get is at the frequency 'LAST SCATTERED', i.e. it has been passed on by local particles (plasma) scattered to a higher or lower frequency subject to relative motion (Equivalent to Raman - Stokes Anti-Stokes up and down shifting). This is what gives the 'absorption lines' (from IR spectroscopy) we haven't entirely learned how to read yet, but which effectively contains a full log of the EM wave inertial frame history.

      Virtual particles don't quote appear from 'nothing'. The condensate has to be perturbed, by other massive particles or 'blocks' of condensate moving through it, condensing matter and a local plasmasphere (diffractive boundary). (Venus Express just confirmed theirs is like ours, in the planets frame).

      The very existence of the CMB rest frame is completely inconsistent with the assumption (actually 'stipulation') of no absolute field for SR, so it's been 'heads in the sand' again. This means we've missed the 3rd option, no single 'absolute' frame, but an 'ether type' field none the less, (the C field of Edwin) as a privaleged 3rd frame. The Discrete nature and local conversion of all em waves to 'c' resolves the issue of all em waves being measured at 'c' locally. Simple really, (but not that easy to get the dynamic pattern onto your brain cells the first time!

      It also points to much of the redshift being due to the very low impedence and resistivity of the medium (which we know precisely along with it's permitivity, but buried in the sand somewhere)! The logical conclusion dictates we're expanding but at a slowing rate. I'll explain more if you wish. 'Temporary' is relative. If you read the viXra paper I posted above you'll see what I mean!

      Anyway - remember I'm only guessing here, but it does seem to fit the complete data range much better than any other theories I've heard, and does resolve the anomalies and most of the 13 great unanswered questions. I hope some of it sounds sensible to you?

      Best wishes

      Peter

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        Peter,

        Thanks for responding so quickly.

        I admit I don't follow GR very well, but I conceptually envision the local gravitational 'curvature of spacetime' to be the product of an external (generally radial) contraction of external kinetic energy that imparts velocity to matter (including photons). I think this is in general agreement with your explanation of redshift, but I don't think I follow how that applies to redshift imparted by spacetime expansion.

        However, I am wondering if you were able to follow my interpretation of proper astronomical observational perspective? I think that the local field effects of gravitation on redshift do not explain the distinction between observational samples nearer than and greater than 5Glya. Something evidently did qualitatively change about 5 billion years ago.

        My interpretation is that, since the ancient light emitted from more distant objects indicates a requirement for increased expansion effects the evidence supports an increased rate of expansion in the earlier universe.

        Can you follow my reasoning - that the established interpretations are spatially-temporally inverted?

        I do appreciate your time and apologize for being so dense.

        Jim

        Jim

        Not dense, but, like most, you may need to 'step back' for overview, and read, consider and absorb more slowly.

        I entirely agree with reducing expansion rate, but I don't think that's for the reasons you suggest. The concept 'last scattered' is important. Yes, we are getting signals from local emissions, but they are mainly 'scattered' emissions, i.e. they have entered plasma shocks and halo's and been diffracted, (subject to relative speed of the body the shocks surround) to different frequencies, i.e. redshifts.

        This means part of redshift may perhaps relate to Polarisation Mode Dispersal (the particle charging delay causing diffraction) by the ion plasma particles and part to the impedence of the condensate itself. (2.7 degree pre condensed matter condition) also note the 2.7 changes slightly with frequency!

        You may still have a point about 5 Bn years ago, as that was around when the Milky Way should have had it's last recycling, (see the viXra paper) but I'd have to consider what effect that would have on incoming signals. That means I'd need to scrutinise all "the evidence" of what the difference between "observational samples" at that distance is. Can you provide that, with links?

        Peter

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          Peter, you write

          "I'll double check I've scored your essay as I note it's way below where it should be!"

          What ratings are you referring to? The last time I checked your public rating was 8.3 compared to 8.5 for mine.

          Ah, Peter, you are so sly! I like it! You are always a challenge and a pleasure to engage in these blogs! Politics is no less a match for you than Physics. Have you tried your hand in it? I predict you will be very good. I already voted for you!

          Moving on, however, from these murky waters of politics to the murkier waters of physics.

          We agree on many views.

          Certainly, we know physical reality by our observations and measurements of the Universe. But clearly such measurements are always done 'locally' where we are and our instruments are. So I agree with your "locality/reality" principle. And I agree that this has the potential of answering many puzzling enigmas of physics. You have been concentrating on explaining the constant speed of light and SR. While I have been more focused on explaining Planck's Law of blackbody radiation.

          The most astonishing result in my papers and essay is that Planck's Law is an exact mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of measurement. It is a mathematical result! Nothing to do with physics!

          One outstanding characteristic of Planck's Law is how remarkably exact it is to experimental data. Check: The Cosmic Microwave Background Spectrum from COBE! In this graph, the experimental blackbody spectrum is indistinguishable from the theoretical curve. And unlike many other laws of physics, the better our instruments get the closer the fit! I ask all the physicists out there: "What is the explanation of this remarkable exact fit?"

          My work CAN explain this experimental fact, however! In my essay I prove that Planck's Law is an exact mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of measurement. Clearly, the COBE blackbody spectrum is recorded 'locally' by the 'sensor' making these measurements. These measurements describe the mathematical identity that is Planck's Law!

          I am still puzzled by your DFM. At this time, at least, it still feels to me like the "wave-particle" paradox. Having solved that paradox, however, I have a sense this dichotomy may be resolved too. I anticipate that we may agree on that point too. I just have to see it somewhat differently, in my way of thinking that fits all my other results.

          Constantinos

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          Dear Edwin,

          A brief reply for now since I am on my way out to see my daughter.

          If I am not mistaken, your C-field comes from modifications to Maxwell's equations. Thus, the properties of the C-field are already contained in the equations that gave rise to it. Though you take this C-field as 'primordial', its 'properties' don't flow out of it, but from the equations you use to define it!

          The 'prime physis' quantity eta in my essay is 'first nature'. What is eta? It is in a sense the 'what is'. Therefore, it is 'undefined and undefinable'. Other physical quantities like energy and momentum are defined in terms of it. And these lead, through mathematical identities, to the Basic Laws of Physics. This is different from mathematical modeling.

          Planck's Law, for example, I show to be a mathematical identity that describes the interaction of measurement! This fact alone explains why Planck's Law fits the experimental data so remarkably exactly. Check: The Cosmic Microwave Background Spectrum from COBE!. There is no explanation of this other than the one I offer!

          Constantinos

          Peter,

          Thanks for your reply. I am not thinking so much of a gravitational 'effect' on the photon as I am simply a 'medium' in which electromagnetic waves can 'wave'. My basic C-field equation does contain a term for "change in gravity" and this is of course supported by Pound-Rebka. But it says nothing about gravity that is not changing, although, as I said, the field has energy, hence equivalent mass, hence 'substance' of some sort.

          As for your paragraph 2, I fully agree. It's very frustrating to know that the proper word or phrase may lead to success without any change in the logic of one's argument. And I have not been able to conjure up this word.

          And as for your third paragraph, I agree with your ideas about transmission through plasma; I'm just trying to get an intuitive feel for transmission through 'empty' space (which always is 'full of gravity'). I have continued to work on the ideas expressed in 'GEM and the Constant Speed of Light' and have new results that are very interesting.

          Edwin Eugene Klingman

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          Peter,

          Thanks. I should have explained that I really view the two questions I'd raised as separate issues (of course they're interrelated, but not necessarily directly).

          I'm most interested in the second question, as in reviewing the observational evidence as best I can, it seems that the researchers identified that the redshift of photons detected from more distant objects required that expansion has accelerated. Most simply put, as I understand, they determined that galaxies at the periphery of the observed universe are receding away from us at an increased velocity, thus universal expansion is accelerating!

          Again, I simply understand that the ancient light indicated greater expansion.

          My resources are limited so I prefer to focus on the original source: "Observational Evidence from Supernovae for an Accelerating Universe and a Cosmological Constant", Riess et al.:

          http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9805201v1

          It states most simply: "The distances of the high-redshift SNe Ia are, on average, 10% to 15% farther than expected in a low mass density (M = 0.2) Universe without a cosmological constant."

          A warning: the report is very astronomical-technical. For example, "light curve fitting methods" refers to determining where a SN observation fits in it brief period of peak emission luminosity, as it is only the observed luminosity for the consistent peak emission luminosity can be used to estimate distance. Of course the diminishment of luminosity is directly related to the distance the light has traversed, not any real distance to any observed object.

          A more general source might be a summary, "The Accelerating Universe":

          http://arxiv.org/abs/1010.1162

          In a section "The discovery of dark energy", the author states:

          "The definitive results, based on ~ 50 SN by either team that combined the nearby sample previously observed by the Calan/Tololo collaboration and the newly acquired and crucial sample of high-redshift SN, came out soon thereafter [Riess et al. (1998); Perlmutter et al. (1999)]. The results of the two teams agreed, and indicated that more distant SN are dimmer than would be expected in a matter-only universe; see Fig. 1.2. In other words, the universe's expansion rate is speeding up, contrary to expectation from the matter-dominated universe with any amount of matter and regardless of curvature."

          I can understand if you are not in a position to tackle this, I think, very simple issue made very complicated by astronomers. I had hoped you could quickly point out some obvious error in my assessment, if one exists. I can certainly understand if you cannot invest your time in this issue... I thank you very much for your interest!

          Jim

          Constantinos,

          I am sure you will enjoy your visit with your daughter.

          You say, "If I am not mistaken, your C-field comes from modifications to Maxwell's equations. Thus, the properties of the C-field are already contained in the equations that gave rise to it. Though you take this C-field as 'primordial', its 'properties' don't flow out of it, but from the equations you use to define it!"

          I suppose you could say that. Actually, I derived the concept of the C-field from quite a different approach, and then found out that Maxwell had first proposed the idea, and then that Einstein's general relativity, in the weak field approximation, leads to the same equations, and then that Martin Tajmar had measured the same strength that I had calculated.

          But that is not really the issue. The issue is the basic difference between what I believe and what you apparently believe. I believe that there is a physical reality, and it is essentially 'unitary', evolving from one primordial essence. I have shown elsewhere how this leads to mathematics, and mathematics is a language that we can use to describe reality.

          You seem to believe that mathematics is the core reality, and that physical reality is somehow secondary and limited or constrained by mathematical equations. So I very much disagree with your statement that the 'properties' of the C-field flow out of the equations. Rather I believe that the equations describe the very real properties of the C-field. I don't really see how anyone could believe anything else, but I know they do.

          As for your third paragraph on the 'prime physis', when I read it I think we agree, but this agreement always disappears with your next comments.

          I am glad that you are happy with your explanation of Plank's constant. But there most definitely is another explanation than yours. If you review my essay you will find that I too derive Plank's constant as a necessary condition of mathematics.

          But since your derivation from mathematics and my derivation from mathematics are quite different, I conclude that Planck's constant is not necessarily a mathematically derived 'thing' but that mathematical descriptions of reality must take into account the existence of Planck's constant.

          Edwin Eugene Klingman

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          Peter,

          Congratulations.

          The essay theme and your essay title implicitly pose the question whether they are inclusive enough to admit the possibility that either, both or neither options truly represent reality. Insofar as the great preponderance of questions, asked and unasked to date, remain unanswered, it is reasonable to presume that of all the possible definitions of reality of which we are aware the probability that any one or more are correct is very low.

          A few issues arise from the contents of your essay and the mind of an itinerant sceptic:

          1. Time:

          Regarding the maximum speed of light, one can't but wonder whether any such speed, when measured along the axial alignment of a light beam, following an axial path described by its helical array, or measured by a instrument travelling tens of thousands of miles an hour through space but not knowing what that speed is measured relative to - all constitute little more than much ado about nothing.

          2. Space:

          Einstein's notion of space not being a continuous absolute void may merit revisiting. We suffer from an obdurate confusion between space as volume, dimensions that are means of describing it, and what space contains, which are merely contents. In accepting this thesis we can more clearly recognize that appearances of curved space can be easily explained as being patterns of energy force fields that arise from the uneven distribution of energy in the universe.

          3. Gravity:

          As a result of experiment and observation we are predisposed to thinking that nature abhors a vacuum, vacuum being unfilled void or space. By nature we mean the totality of all phenomena that exhibit behaviour. Vacuum, which we consider to be devoid of behaviour, we conclude to be hostile and unnatural. We take this position because our immediate environment is almost totally natural. It teems with phenomena exhibiting behaviour. But if we take the larger, God-like view of all there is, we find that vacuum is the dominant condition. What is common to our experience is that forces tend to flow towards matter. The God-like view of all there is would logically reverse polarities and hold that vacuum is natural, and what we call nature to be an imperfection of vacuum. To illustrate this distinction, consider vacuum to be at its most concentrated condition furthest removed from matter.

          As we approach matter there is a gradual dilution of vacuum, in the case of the earth an atmospheric layer polluting the vacuum. As we reach the surface of solid matter, there is an abrupt paucity of vacuum, void remaining only in the interstitial spaces between conglomerate matter, between atomic particles, and at the smaller scale within atomic structures separating electrons from nuclei. So in matter we find an exhibition of defiance against vacuum, the exception that proves the rule. What is the rule? The rule is that vacuum (unfilled void or space) abhors nature, and flows to fill its absence. It is the energy of the flow of vacuum, attracted like water or air to areas of low resistance, that Newton called gravity and Einstein attributed to dimples in space. Newtons magnetic theory and Einsteins space-time curvature are metaphors describing their conclusions regarding a general tendency of matter to move and accelerate towards matter. Gravity is viewed as an attractive force because it impinges upon the observer as a matter of fact. Both Newton and Einstein are substantially correct; the mathematics works for them as indeed it has to for the thesis of this proposition, the difference being that, if one is truly attempting to describe the cosmos objectively, one must not take oneself or ones home planet as being the normal environment or natural condition in space, but rather an aberration of the dominant medium of the cosmos, vacuum.

          It is only by externalizing the observer from the event that he can view it objectively. A river is not a river when viewed from the centre of its action, it is an environment. The logic of the situation demands that, as in biology, one should establish the physiology of normality against which one can then compare departures from the norm. Newtons and Einsteins theories when measured by these standards are upside down. They still work, just as a good thermometer measures cold as efficiently as it measures heat; it is simply calibrated the wrong way since cold is the predominant and therefore normal condition and heat merely a reduction of cold, as an aberration. Logically what we call gravity is antigravity; matter is low-density, denatured (or natured if you prefer) vacuum, and what we call nature is the exception. We tend to think of vacuum as suction. In the world of logical reality we, that matter, are the suckers struggling not to be blown away by the flow of vacuum. That flow is Nirvana from the Sanskrit nir meaning out, and vati meaning it blows.

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          Dear Edwin, you write

          "You seem to believe that mathematics is the core reality, and that physical reality is somehow secondary and limited or constrained by mathematical equations."

          It is always interesting for me to see how others 'know' what I 'think'! Nothing unusual about that. I am sure I do exactly the same think to others. It's the reason and the need for a sustained dialog. I am always happy to engage in such.

          Since the issue for you is what I think about 'reality', I'd be happy to try to explain directly.

          I believe that we can only know our 'measurements' of 'what is' and not 'what is'. Though I do not doubt that there is an 'objective reality' ('what is') it's a mute point for me to seek to describe it. The quantity eta in my essay (closest to being 'what is') is left undefined because it is in principle undefinable. Eta does not drop out of a mathematical equation, but it is used to develop mathematical descriptions of what we measure. In my view, all attempts to 'mathematically model' the Universe are flawed and will fail. My work does not involve 'mathematical models' of the Universe. But it does involve math and mathematical reasoning.

          I do not give mathematics the value and importance that you say I do. The failing of physics is in not providing us with physical explanations that make sense. Not for insufficient mathematics. For me, mathematics is only a tool, a language. It can be used for good or for ill. All mathematical statements are conditional. These can never tell us, therefore, 'what is' true.

          In my opinion, mathematics connects us to the Universe through 'measurement' and the mathematical identities that describe the 'interaction of measurement'. That is why I try to make such a 'big deal' of my simple and elegant proof in my essay that shows Planck's Law is an exact mathematical identity that describes the interaction of measurement. This is also the reason why Planck's Law gives such remarkably exact fit to experimental data. Have you checked the link in my last post? It is remarkable! You cannot distinguish the experimental blackbody spectrum from that obtained theoretically from Planck's Formula. Such extreme degree of accuracy can only be the result of a mathematical tautology. That I show Planck's Law is!

          Your C-field that is defined by variations of Maxwell's equations is a 'mathematical model' of the Universe. A better question would be "Why are there Maxwell's equations"? Do you believe Maxwell's equations came from God? It's human hubris to think that God would be so preoccupied! Edwin, I have come to doubt everything! I don't believe in elementary particles and I don't believe in immutable Universal Laws of Nature, ready made to be discovered by men. But I do believe in Mathematics! Just as I deeply and profoundly understand its limitations!

          Constantinos

          James

          I'm happy to give the logical DFM derived view.

          In logic if just one of the initial axioms is imperfect the whole model is false. In the accelerated expansion model there is no continuum (from which particles condense) as this is what Einstein believed he was forced to assume to explain constancy of 'c' (CSL) for all observers in Special Relativity. (SR) In this case the alternative 'tired light' alternative was not adopted.

          However. The need for that assumption is now removed by the DFM. By advances in our brain power we can see (well, ..only some of us so far!) that there is a simple logical answer to CSL via the local speed change at local fields (SR and GR are after all 'Local' theories, as Maxwells.) I point out the well know boundary mechanism of Stokes scattering at the plasmaspheric/ ionospheric shocks and Halos', but our brains must be able to visualise one more dynamic variable that most of us can to understand inertial fields. (Einsteins "infinitely many 'spaces' in relative motion").

          So he was right in saying "Space without ether is unthinkable", and the well know impedence and resistivity of the continuum/ medium/ C Field/Ether/ 'Inter stellar medium or whatever you wish to call it to EM waves does NOT have to be ignored any more. This means certainly SOME of the redshift is due to the medium. Precisely how much we don't yet know (and it'll take 10 years for most to catch up with this at all!).

          There's also the matter of calculation; take a 1ft length of elastic, mark the centre, put one end by your eye and stretch it. Does the end move away faster than the centre? Of course not! And don';t forget how long the light takes to get from the end just to the centre, and the same(ish) again to the eye. Again, with maths, if the initial concept is incorrect the results are nonsense. You must understand z is nor speed, it needs apriory assumption of speed. Anyway, that's less important than the above.

          But the other paper (you read?) gives the other evidence of the process, which is only consistent with a decline in speed! so we can approximate expansion rate more accurately. How are you getting on so far?

          Peter

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            Peter,

            Excellent, excellent, excellent. You win the prize as far as I have read so far in all the essays. It isn't just the content, but the sense of zeal you communicate for the subject.

            The one thing I think I have learned from this whole experience in this essay review is how difficult it is to express new thoughts in science. Everything that is ever stated has to be reflected against the work of all the other "pillars" of science in the past. You do a great job of it.

            My personal view of the universe is very simple, but this essay contest has made me realize that science has made everything so complicated that it is impossible to communicate. Damn that tower!

            Pete