My paper is a presentation on quotients and cosets of spaces and moduli which are of a continuous and discrete nature. I did not write this paper with an idea of trying to say nature is either continuous or discrete. There are clearly aspects of both, even if the continuous aspects are more epistemic than ontic, where discrete structures are measured. Yet the discrete measurements give rise to signatures of continuous structures, such as how the 2-slit experiment for single photons gives a discrete pattern which indicates a continuous or wave nature. I tend not to assign any existential preference to things which are epistemic or ontic, but simply enjoy what seems to be the interplay between the two.

I am a bit disappointed in the downward drift of my essay of late. I am going to say that there are 8 essays ahead of mine which are pure balderdash and rubbish. These papers are complete nonsense, and yet they are ahead of mine, where even if I am not right at least I crafted the work with mathematics and calculations. In fact I will say that a couple of these nonsense papers are in the top 10. In addition to these 8 rubbish papers there are about an equal number of papers which are of dubious reasoning, or they are "questionable." As I look at papers beneath mine on the community rating there are about a half dozen or so which are far too low to ever get into the top 35 which are actually fairly good, and clearly superior to a number near the top. I hesitate to give out author's names here, but it is clear if you give some of these papers a reading that the value of the "community ranking" is somewhat off base. I can only hope that before the close date there is some assessment by the FQXi members which adjust things some. I look upon this with some disappointment, where in the last week I have seen my paper passed up by a succession of papers, where most are of questionable value.

The issue of the speed of light, where your paper connects ideas of indices of refraction and the like, is that in vacuum the speed of light is an invariant. There is no communication of signals faster than light. There is the velocity of a phase front, a region of constant action v_p = E/p = ω/k. There is the group velocity v_g = ∂ω/∂k, which is

v_g = v_p - λ∂v_p/∂λ

This dispersion does permit the envelope of a wave to move faster than light, but this does not communicate information.

Cheers LC

Dear Lawrence,

Hope you are now feeling better. I couldn't let this contest pass without asking that you 'review' a key result to be found in my essay:

"Planck's Law is an exact mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of measurement"

The proof is simple and elegant. It uses only continuous methods and does not use 'energy quanta' or statistical physics. Furthermore, I argue that this mathematical tautology that is Planck's Law explains why the blackbody spectrum obtained experimentally is indistinguishable from that obtained theoretically from Planck's Law.

In my essay also you will find results pertaining to entropy and The Second Law of Thermodynamics. This you may recall from the number of exchanges we had on this topic last summer. Hope you consider my essay and support my efforts to have these results 'peer reviewed' by the 'judging panel'.

All the best,

Constantinos Ragazas

    This means there should be considerable work available for philosophers long in the future.

    Lawrence,

    Well done and quite esoteric.

    This means you put the question in the realm of philosophy. This is probably more objective than my stab at analogue, but I'll stick with my guess.

    Jim Hoover

      Lawrence

      Thanks for your response. I agree with your comment; "The issue of the speed of light, where your paper connects ideas of indices of refraction and the like, is that in vacuum the speed of light is an invariant. There is no communication of signals faster than light. There is the velocity of a phase front, a region of constant action v_p = E/p = ω/k. There is the group velocity v_g = ∂ω/∂k, which is

      v_g = v_p - λ∂v_p/∂λ

      This dispersion does permit the envelope of a wave to move faster than light, but this does not communicate information."

      However it shows you've missed the logic and the mechanism. I indeed propose and derive that nothing goes faster than light anywhere, yet it may 'apparently' in the same way a runner may appear to be running at 50mph if you view him from the inertial frame of your moving car. It shows any number of invalid frames exist and only one valid one, which is the same one as the observed phenomena.

      It explains how SR can work with QM; the received speed of light in a vacuum is indeed always 'c', but the vacuum is itself divided into 'discrete fields' in relative motion by diffractive plasma boundary zones. These ensure the speed of light is always 'c' LOCALLY.

      I appreciate your view on other essays, but if you haven't understood the conceptual basis of any such a view is obviously invalid! I'm not criticising as it's beyond most brains conceptual power to visualise and manipulate the number of moving variables needed. Only about 1 in 5 seem to be achieving it so far, but it's gradually increasing.

      You should get there if you truly try, but as Einstein and Bragg said, it's finding new ways at looking at and understanding 'what nature has revealed to us' that is important in physics. I could derive it via trains, buses or light boxes if necessary. (Take the sides away and when the mirrors move the pulse moves off into space, as one might expect, but all fully SR postulate compliant!)

      Do let me know how you get on.

      Best wishes and best of luck.

      Peter

        Well, that's certainly true. People are also free to spin up theories of Super-Symmetry, and other symmetries, but my theory has for five years predicted no Higgs and no SUSY (Super-Symmetry) and no other new particles.

        The response from some has been "There has to be SUSY!" But this week's Nature (3 Mar 2011) says that over a year of searching at LHC has failed to find any evidence of super-particles (or the Higgs), and if SUSY is not found by the end of the year, the theory is in serious trouble (some already say that 'SUSY is dead'.)

        Nature says "SUSY's utility and mathematical grace have instilled a "religious devotion" among its followers" some of whom have been working on the theory for thirty years.

        The key statement in the article is this:

        "This is a big political issue in our field. For some great physicists, it is the difference between getting a Nobel prize and admitting they spent their lives on the wrong track."

        Lawrence you say: "Nonlocality is not an absolute truth, and in science we do not deal with that notion of truth." Ideally, of course, you are correct, but in reality there is as much religious devotion in physics as there is in your average church, maybe more. No one want's to admit to wasting his life, and Suzi Q's remark about the 'True Faith' has the ring of truth.

        Edwin Eugene Klingman

        I read your paper through in detail last night and started writing this. I wrote further today, so this got a bit long. I even looked at Adler huge paper, though being 175 pages in length I of course could not read the whole. The A-M matrices, traceless diagonal elements of i = sqrt{-1} and -i, forms is related to the Kahler matrix. This is a line bundle form of the symplectic matrix. To include commutator structure between position elements [q_i, q_j] = αħ, for α a constant, and similar commutators for momentum, this can be generalized by the Gelfand theorem and Connes' noncommutative geometry.

        For gravity this is clearly an important aspect of quantum gravity. Of course we have a lot of funny ideas about this. In your paper you have the "digital" as a world with quantum gravity. This appears evident by just looking at the Schwarzschild metric element 1 - r_0/r, for r_0 = 2GM/c^2, the Killing vector K_t = (1/sqrt{1 - r_0/r})∂_t. This forms a natural operator for a Schrodinger type of equation Hψ = -iħK_tψ. However, the momentum operator p_r = -iħ∂_r does not commute with K_t, and there is a noncommutative geometry. Another way of looking at this is the element r_0 exhibits fluctuations so that r_0 = + δr_0, where δr_0 = f*sqrt{Għ/c^3} = f*L_p for f \in [0, 1]. So a fluctuation of mass-energy in a region of space there is then a fluctuation in the proper time ds ~ (1 - δr_0/r)dt^2, which is a noncommutative situation in energy and time. So there are curiously two different ways of looking at this.

        We have two snags with our ideas of quantum gravity. One in string theory, where the action is formulated as

        L = ∫d^nx sqrt{-1}(R + α'R_{abcd}R^{abcd} + O(α'^2))

        Requires there to be a classical background, or R_{ab} = λg_{ab}. This background dependence is a major criticism which has been lodged at string theory. However, the LQG folks who raise this complaint have problems of their own. In the assignment of a degree of freedom with each strut in a discrete spacetime there is a vacuum E = 3kT/2 element, which when summed up results in a huge entropy to spacetime. For this reason LQG is not able to reconstruct classical spacetime. String theory on the other hand employs holographic principle which vastly reduces the number of degrees of freedom to horizons and boundaries and these problems are avoided.

        The string perturbation series is also problematic. It appears almost incomputable. We may then be able to work with some finite series, as in an effective theory. The near horizon for a black hole in an AdS_n is where the spacetime becomes AdS_2xS^{n-2}. The AdS_2 has an equivalency to the CFT_1 with isometries of the SL(2,C) group. This is the elementary group which constructs the quantum SLOCC quantum bit structures equivalent to BPS black holes. The CFT_1 is the Diff(S^1) which is the Virasoro algebra, and in this case with two copies bounded on a conformal map of S^1 to a strip. This defines the Hartle-Hawking quantum states.

        The Hartle-Hawking state is constructed by a map from Calabi-Yau three-fold. This constructs the states according to a type of modular form which is related to the partition of integers. This modular form in a Dirchlet L-series has the Riemann zeta function, where its zeros determine the eigenvalues.. The 3-fold in the conjugacy classes of a maximal tori on the F_4 gives the cycle [0, e^{2π/3}, e^{4π/3}], which defines the Eisenstein series E(z), E(2z) E(3z) and the partition function for the quantum states of the AdS_2 ~ CFT_1 spacetime. This is quantum gravity to one loop. This is also equivalently determined by the G_2 group, which in the E_8 is the centralizer of the F_4 group. This extends the work which I present in the paper I wrote for FQXi Building up to AdS_7 will take us up to 6 loop calculations, and extended to 11-dimensional SUGRA to 7 loops.

        What comes after that? Frankly, nothing for in effect we run out of algebra. However, there is something which is going on. The hyperbolic dynamics on H_2 ~ AdS_2 is S-dual to a quartic theory of fermions. This is not my work, but was demonstrated by Zamolodchikov (among the other amazing things that guys did), and physically it means the underlying physics of strings in the AdS_2, or equivalently on the boundary as CFT_1, is that of a fermion condensate.

        The high temperature domain for the string is the Hagedorn temperature. The density of states for a string with respect to modes n is

        η(n) ~ exp(4πn sqrt{α'})

        that defines a partition function Z =~ ∫ η(n)exp(-n/T)dn. The Temperature is computed by 1/T = ∂Z/∂n and the path integral diverges for a temperature greater than

        T_H = 4π sqrt{α'}

        which is the Hagedorn temperature. This is proportional to the reciprocal of the string length. The entropy of the system is the logarithm of the density of states the S ~ 1/nT_H, which in the large n limit is zero. The modes number is given by n = 1/(sqrt{d}M_s), for d the number of degrees of freedom and M_s the string mass. String theory on the AdS_2 transitions into a theory of fermions at this high energy. Strings are then similar to the topological states, such as Skyrmion states.

        If this is so then gravity is an effective theory with a classical background. The middle or semi-digital aspects of the world are a form of effective theory. If gravitation or quantum gravity is an emergent theory, we might also ask the same about quantum mechanics? This is based on some aspects of my paper, which I did not illuminate much. Lightcone structure is a projective structure in the completion of the AdS_n spacetimes by quotient geometry. The lightlike geodesics in M_n are copies of RP^1, which at a given point p define a set that is the lightcone C(p). The point p is the projective action of π(v) for v a vector in a local patch R^{n,2} and so C(p) is then π(P∩C^{n,2}), for P normal to v, and C^{n,2} the region on R^{n,2} where the interval vanishes.

        The space of lightlike geodesics is a set of invariants and then due to a stabilizer on O(n,2), so the space of lightlike curves L_n is identified with the quotient O(n,2)/P, where P is a subgroup defined the quotient between a subgroup with a Zariski topology, or a Borel subgroup, and the main group G = O(n,2). This quotient G/P is a projective algebraic variety, or flag manifold and P is a parabolic subgroup. The natural embedding of a group H - -> G composed with the projective variety G - ->G/P is an isomorphism between the H and G/P. This is then a semi-direct product G = P x| H. For the G any GL(n) the parabolic group is a subgroup of upper triangular matrices. An example of such a matrix with real valued elements is the Heisenberg group of 3x3 matrices

        \left(\matrix{

        1 & a & b\cr

        0 & 1 & c\cr

        0 & 0 &1}\right)

        which may be extended to n-dimensional systems to form the 2n+1 dimensional Heisenberg group H_n of n + 2 entries

        \left(\matrix{

        1 & a & b\cr

        0 & I_n & c\cr

        0 & 0 & 1}\right)

        where for O(n,2) the Heisenberg group is H_{2n+3}. The elements a and c are then n+2 dimensional row and column vectors of O(n,2). These are Borel groups, which emerge from the quotient space AdS_n/Γ, where the discrete group Γ is a manifestation of the Calabi-Yau 3-cycle, and which as it turns out gives an integer partition for the set of quantum states in the AdS spacetime. So both spacetime and quantum structure as we know them are emergent.

        If we return to our more ordinary world, where gravity is classical and for that matter flat and ignored, quantum mechanics does bring to us a series of difficulties. I tend to agree with you that interpretations of quantum mechanics do not appear effective, for they have no empirical means of falsification. The quantum world may be seen equivalently as a many worlds splitting off continually or as Bohmian be-able particles guided on some path by a pilot wave. The simple fact is that quantum physics assumes two things: The first is that a measurement apparatus is infinite, or has an infinite number of atoms or degrees of freedom, and further that an infinite number of measurements can be conducted. These two assumptions are clearly idealizations.

        The difference between a superposition and entanglement is the following. We consider a two slit experiment where a photon wave function interacts with a screen. The wave vector is of the form

        |ψ> = e^{ikx}|1> + e^{ik'x}|2>

        as a superposition of states for the slits labeled 1 and 2. The normalization is assumed. The state vector is normalized as

        = 1 = + + e^{i(k' + k)x} + e^{-i(k' + k)x}

        The overlaps and are multiplied by the oscillatory terms which are the interference probabilities one measures on the photoplate. We now consider the classic situation where one tries to measure which slit the photon traverses. We have a device with detects the photon at one of the slit openings. We consider another superposed quantum state. This is a spin space that is

        |φ> = (1/sqrt{2})(|+> + |->).

        This photon quantum state becomes entangled with this spin state. So we have

        |ψ,φ> = e^{ikx}|1>|+> + e^{ik'x}|2>|->

        which means if the photon passes through slit number 1 the spin is + and if it passes through slit 2 the spin is in the - state. Now consider the norm of this state vector

        = + + e^{i(k' + k)x} + e^{-i(k'+k)x}.

        The spin states |+> and |-> are orthogonal and thus and are zero. This means the overlap or interference terms are removed. In effect the superposition has been replaced by an entanglement.

        So we may think of the these two entangled systems as that for an electron and the other for a C-60 buckyball in two different states of some sort. One of these particles is pretty clearly in the quantum domain, while the other pushes the envelope of what is quantum. However, people have performed two slit experiments with buckballs, where they have to be supercold. We do not have to cool down electrons. So we might imagine the two slit experiment with electron where one slit contains a buckyball that has some phonon state entangled with the electron being present or not. We may then think of there being an atomic force microscope which then measures the buckball and ... up the scale to the Schrodinger cat. There is a process of entanglement which proceeds up the chain. The scale in length or time diminishes, or the complement in momentum and energy diminishes, as the ratio of mass or action between the system and apparatus approaches zero.

        So the curious thing is that we really are operating in the quantum world all along. However, we only see one of the outcomes; we do not see the measurement apparatus in two states or the alive/dead cat. This then leads us to the emergence of the next level in the world, the classical world. While everything is ultimately quantum mechanical, "all the way down," there is the emergence of this classical world which we observe through our senses. It is also the world which we first came to understand with the progression from Galileo and Kepler and culminating in Newton. Of course the Bohmist might object to the idea of the classical world as an illusion, for they say the quantum world is ultimately classical-like or objective in some sense of nonlocal hidden variables. In that language, the classical world is a domain where the Bohm quantum potential is zero. From a many worlds perspective the observer is eigen-branched along only one entanglement path.

        So this is how I would interpret this layering of continuous and discrete structures. At the emergence of gravity this seems to connect with the semi-digital. The extremely high energy world consists of quantum states given I think by the zeros of the Riemann zeta function. However, the fields are continuous, so there is I think at this level a complementarity between the continuous and discrete. Once gravity is classical then you have a 1/2 continuum and 1/2 discrete perspective. This then leads to the classical world which appears continuous.

        Cheers LC

        The idea of there being 'discrete fields' in relative motion by diffractive plasma boundary zones, is to me a bit odd. The only thing I can maybe connect this with is a region of vacuum polarization or virtual particles in QFT. This as a virtual cloud of particles is similar in a way to a plasma. The polarization vector, say in QED, does determine an index of refraction. You invoke some astrophysical data on bow shocks and the like, which are very diffuse plasmas.

        I am also a bit uncertain by what is meant by apparent motion. Special relativity unequivocally tells us the speed of light is the same in all frames. There is no special frame or a valid frame amongst lots of invalid frames. Using the case of a runner consider that runner is moving at 10m/s and you are riding a bicycle moving at 8 m/s in either direction along the runner's motion. In a Galilean transformation you would see that runner move at 2 m/s or 18 m/s, depending on orientation. However, if that runner represents a photon you would find the runner moving at 10m/s --- either direction. There is no frame where you would observe the runner moving with some other velocity. This is what the Lorentz transformations give you.

        There are some funny things which I have been trying to figure out about your paper, and I think these are couple of things which I do not entirely see.

        Cheers LC

        I got a bit crimped for space towards the end. The philosophy part got clipped. Discrete things tend to be things which count as data points, a spot on a photoplate in a 2-slit experiment, the click of a photomultiplier tube that registers a count, a Raman spectrogram and so forth. These things are ontological, the reduced state of a particle, or the energy level of an atom and so forth. The continuous stuff are all the fields and waves and the like, which we sort of infer by a collection of the discrete stuff --- the data. The continuous stuff is frankly what makes the discrete stuff happen, but largely these are not directly measurable, or ontological. These tend to be more epistemological.

        Physics then has this duality between the two. So this relationship is in a way existential, for it involves the question of what is existence and it seems to somehow involve the nature of an observer. In that way there may be some future work for philosophers, though this will have rather indirect impact on actual physics.

        Cheers LC

        I will have to get back to you on this. I gave your paper a first look. Yes I do remember this sort of idea last summer. I will have to make an assessment of this and write back in the next day or two.

        Cheers LC

        Lawrence

        Good, You are starting to grasp an initially very tricky set of variables. The fact it seems a bit odd shows you've glimpsed the important adjustment.

        I agree SR simply tells us 'c' is constant IN all frames. I suggest another way of conceiving that; If you're not ON that bus going past you're not IN the same frame. (after all - all light you receive FROM that or any frame you receive at 'c' in your frame, so nothing breaks the rule!!)!

        200 other people walking, running, driving past or flying over the bus on every possible vector will ALSO receive the light at 'c' IN their frame. What is more, that light (scattered from particles inside the bus) will only ever have DONE 'c' anywhere LOCALLY.

        i.e. It does 'c' (or c/n) with respect to (wrt) the bus Inside the bus and within the glass (n=1.5) of the windows, then c/n through the air (n=1.0003), then c/n through the FINE STRUCTURE free electron plasma of your eye or glass instrument lense, then c/n through your eye lense (n=1.38).

        Yes, you're spot on about plasma, and the density and frequency correlate to speed. (Yes - through the 'condensate,' 'combined' or 'C' field!- See Edwin Klingman's essay for some sums, which I think Ray now agrees with).

        If you didn't feel uncomfortable it wouldn't be the NEW door onto reality the discrete field concept represents. NO absolute background frame, but a background no less. It's a new level of dynamic understanding of SR you only really see the value of when you start to apply it. I pointed it at some Galaxies, and 2 weeks later has a paper accepted for Peer Review. It also takes us a giant step towards GR, effectively simply condensing the mass with motion for equivalence.

        As with Edwin, we think very differently Lawrence. That is a fantastic advantage the human race has! - if we USE it. I've just done the initial dynamic conception bit, your skills will be needed, (once you fully understand the conceptual basis), to take it on and make the necessary adjustments to both it and the jigsaw puzzle bits of current physics so it ALL fits together seamlessly at last.

        You may now be ready for a pint of beer, and a description of how this can be explained to a barmaid... etc..! I hesitate, but I'm now starting to trust you; http://vixra.org/abs/1102.0016 (You may also find links to many earlier papers there).

        Have fun as Ray would say.

        Peter

        In reading your paper I find one curious question. This is I think the same as the question I raised last summer. The equation δt/ħ = 1/kT defines a scale of fluctuation, here with a Euclideanized time. This is a scale of time where the observable uncertainty or disorder of a quantum system is equivalent to thermal fluctuations at some temperature. However, in much of what you do it appears to be used as a variable. It is used as a time in various integrations and as units in a time line. This step actually requires some subtle justification.

        Cheers LC

        Dear Lawrence,

        In "A World Without Quanta" there are no "scales of fluctuation" or "disorders of a quantum system". All the simple logic and mathematical derivations in my essay become clear and convincing if viewed without using the prism of current theory. I am not a physicist! I have no idea what you are talking about. But we can have a good conversation on the results in my essay if you keep to the language and terms I use in it.

        The time variable t is a continuous variable, but the equation you point to δt/ħ = 1/kT does not appear anywhere in my essay in that form. The closest to it, I think, is Δt = h/kT. If that is what you are referring to than I can explain that this duration of time is for an 'accumulation of energy' h to occur. This is a result shown in the essay.

        You write,

        "... in much of what you do it appears to be used as a variable..."

        If the 'it' is time t, then yes. It is a continuous variable. The view in all of this is of a 'continuous Universe'. The amazing think is that it is possible to have such a naïve view, and still explain and derive basic results in physics. That's all I can do! Perhaps you and others can do much more. Take it as 'food for thought' and see if it can nourish your physics.

        The key result in the essay is "Planck's Law is an exact mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of measurement". The mathematical derivation is simple and elegant. It does not use 'energy quanta' or statistics. Furthermore I argue that it can fully explain why the experimental blackbody spectrum is indistinguishable from theory. Please comment on that!

        As a further enticement, I am about to post a paper that proves the following proposition using and extending the same ideas in my essay:

        "If the speed of light is constant, then light is a wave"

        Please help me get this essay to the 'church'!

        Best regards,

        Constantinos

        What is funny is that you write:

        "The time variable t is a continuous variable, but the equation you point to δt/ħ = 1/kT does not appear anywhere in my essay in that form. The closest to it, I think, is Δt = h/kT. If that is what you are referring to than I can explain that this duration of time is for an 'accumulation of energy' h to occur. This is a result shown in the essay.

        You write,

        "... in much of what you do it appears to be used as a variable..."

        If the 'it' is time t, then yes. It is a continuous variable. The view in all of this is of a 'continuous Universe'. The amazing think is that it is possible to have such a naïve view, and still explain and derive basic results in physics. That's all I can do! Perhaps you and others can do much more. Take it as 'food for thought' and see if it can nourish your physics."

        This is basically what I said in the first place. The use of a time scale computed from δt/ħ = 1/kT, or equivalently as you say Δt = h/kT, as a continuous variable is a funny procedure. It would be a bit like computing a standard deviation for some variable, and then using that as units of a continuous variable. This is potentially the main weakness in your program, for this is mathematically very questionable.

        I have not given out scores yet, except for some cases. Your paper clearly shows a serious amount of work. This above I do see as a problem, so in giving out scores, maybe on Sunday I will give not a top score but maybe enough (if I guestimate right) to put you over the top into the 35. Right now you are at 38.

        Cheers LC

        Lawrence,

        Your support of this effort is greatly appreciated. Please understand that this is not about me.

        I will like to continue my conversation about the main objection that you have raised (regarding the scaling of time) perhaps after this contest is over. But as a preliminary thought I am beginning to understand what you are saying regarding the time scale. The problem that I have is that I am not using scales along the t-axis or any other axis. My approach is very simply mathematical, using variables as continuous. More on this perhaps at some other time.

        But I do want to elicit some comments concerning two notes I have just posted today on the web.

        "What is the Matter with de Broglie Waves?"

        and,

        "If the speed of light is constant, then light is a wave"

        These are very short! I could have combined them into one. But I wanted both titles!

        Best wishes,

        Constantinos

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        Dear Lawrence,

        interesting essay, interesting connections you find between entanglement for black holes and AdS spacetime.

        Best regards,

        Cristi

          Cristi,

          thanks. The three-fold discrete structure I argued for above turns out to have very rich and deep properties. This turns out to be related to the Calabi-Yau form and the three terms in the Hodge diamond h_{1,1}, h_{2,0) ~ h_{0,2} and h_{3,0} ~ h_{0,3}. The three fold structure is then an aspect of the three-form of G_2 and N = 2 supersymmetry. The G_2 is the centralizer of F_4 in the exceptional E_8. This 3-folding is then an F_4 restriction to the E_6 on the manifold as a form of twistor space. Also the three fold structure defines modular forms, or the Picard modular function with some number theoretic connections with zeta functions.

          So it is turning out there is a much deeper structure to this than what I thought at the time I wrote the essay. I am hoping that this FQXi contest might be a way of promoting this further in the future.

          Cheers LC

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          Hi ,

          The zeta function, it's interesting that, let's assume a Sum where n=o and infinity with fourier....f(x)=pi²/3+4Sum(-1)exp n/n² cos nx .....where are these connections please with pi exp 4 if we substitute and set correctly.Now let's assume also a good approximation where the thermodynamics are as always proportional and relevant.Debye will agree at my humble knowledge.Now let's see the link with pi ...if the real serie of the zeta function is inserted ...1+1/x+1/y.....= pi exp4/z...

          The properties are thermodynamical ....and thus we understand why it's essential to have REAL AND RATIONAL variables for intergrations, substitutions and settings..........pi exp4 /90.....if we consider -pi smaller or equatl to x and x smaller or equal to pi....where are these connections without complexs and imaginaries, x can have so many settings ....the thermo is rational.Could you please resume the link.

          Regards

          Steve

          The Riemann zeta function is

          ζ(s) = sum_{n=1}^∞ n^{-s},

          which is a rather simple looking formula, but this has some mysterious properties. The function is zero at s = -2, -4, -6, ... , and zeros at s = 1/2 it, where the value of t gives the prime distribution.

          LC

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          Hello dear Maverick Lawrence

          Thanks I know the zeta function,in fact It's a proof of the distribution of primes inside a sphere .....the line of 0 and pi dear Lawrence . Indeed indeed the properties of the sphere are fascinatings.R+ and Q are better than C .....when we want explain the pure physicality.it's the same with the utilization of the -, the infinity and the 0...that can be harmonized in a pure 3D distribution.

          Dear Lawrence, could you develop please with the euler formulation....e exp z=1+z/1!+z²/2!+z³/3!.....the convergences ......

          Regards

          Steve