You seem to almost agree with me w.r.t the straight wire reprensenting the photon. I imagine this as the 'unravelling' of a helical structure. The thread or wire therefore has structural properties of 'bendiness', pliability, strength etc.

As to "what is force?", I think that it's simply mechanical. Look at the [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes'_screw]Archimedes screw[/link] diagram and see that the red ball represents the direction of force. Now imagine that the whole Archimedes screw is travelling towards the botton right of the screen. This then models a graviton. See what I mean?

Hi James

A nice essay, but one of two parts. I'm pleased to be able to agree entirely with the first part as it's wholly equivalent to the core concept of the Discrete Field Model, which is a releif after the frustration of all our blog discussions, and it's nice to see some maths applied to it. You'll see Don Limuti also has the same basis, and it's consistent with Edwin, Willard, Georgina etc.

This is very important as 'dissident' theories are notorious for being disparate. Each new theory in the same vein can add exponentially to the power and influence of it, so one day mainstream may take notice and Stokes (he was the first) will get the credit he deserved.

The second part I think went off in another seemingly unrelated and unfalsified direction, which you already know I'm not a strong supporter of, but I always keep an open mind, and do indeed have a slightly consistent theory about imprinting on particles pre- reionisation not being completely wiped, which i've mentioned in strings here(or was it a blog string?).

Anyway, well done, and do keep developing it, but it would be nice to see if we can stay co-ordinated.

I look forward to your comments on mine, though I gather it's too crammed with wide 'evidence' rather than expounding the core concept. Let me know what you think.

Alan;

Ref spirals; You'll find the black hole form in my essay is a Tokamak, which is a toroid with intrinsic rotation, and scaleable from atomic to above super massive, in fact I recently posted a paper which also applied it to universes! This has twin continuous counter rotating helixes, around the torus body, very analageous to archimedes screws, but unfalsifiable at that scale of course. I do however have a photo of one at Stellar mass scale (Chandra IR Core of crab Nebula). I hope that may encourage you.

Besr regards

peter

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Hi Alan,

I do not follow your conclusion based upon the Archemedes screw:

"...see that the red ball represents the direction of force. Now imagine that the whole Archimedes screw is travelling towards the botton right of the screen. This then models a graviton. See what I mean?"

No I don't. I went ahead and read your essay in order to find clarification. Your essay needed much more detail and explanation. You are free here to enter the Blog's section of FQXi.org and explain your ideas in greater detail. The detail does matter. That which you see in your mind, you need to make clear to others, and, that requires detailed explanation with repetition. The repetition is not due to the lack of intelligence of others, but, rather to the necessity to fill-out your theory. Detail does matter. Mathematics does matter. Why don't you explain more at your essay forum what your view of the graviton is. Keep trying.

James

Thanks James, I appreciate your well founded comments. I know my essay is lacking in many areas, so I'm not offended by the lack of interest. It's the shear simplicity of what I'm saying which needs to be understood by simply playing with a wood screw or a cork screw. Tactileness is essential in understanding my point, rather than cerebral thinking. It's the structure of the helix which allows a force of attaction to be applied. How can a force carrying particle which moves away from fundamental partcile A and interacts with fundamental particle B be anything other than a helix configuration? It's the visualisation of the interaction at the smallest scale which can be modelled by the helical screw. Newton missed a trick imo. Einstein would never have thought of the spacetime contiuum if Newton had clicked w.r.t the graviton particle being an Archimedes screw analogy! Agghhhh..

Dear peter,

Thank you for your message. I will read your essay before responding technically. However, when I saw your first messages posted here at FQXi.org you appeared to probably have pretty much a single point to make. Having read your posts over time, you come on strong. You arrived here very well prepared. You know far more about empirical evidence than do I. It is good that you have submitted an essay.

James

For all visitors that might read my essay,

Please feel free to comment your opinion. I do not vote against others because they express disagreement with my ideas. For that matter, I do not vote in favor of others in return for their support for my ideas. Please critique my essay and rate it according to what you find it deserves.

James

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James,

just wanted to say thank you for the tweet. I just accidentally stumbled upon it. I think that may have been what you were referring to when you said I had made the front page. (I thought you meant the blog conversation.) Anyway I really do appreciate it.

I am a little surprised by your current position. I would expect you to be higher than some of those above. (Joe Fisher's position must be an anti-establishment protest vote.) Still a month to go so things can change in that time. Though I would like to stay up with the "big boys" I do not know how long it can last. I will try to send along some more readers likely to be interested in reading your essay, if I can. Thanks again, Georgina.

Hi Georgina,

Actually I was referring to the Home page here. I have sent out some tweets over the last few weeks encouraging people to enter. I don't concern myself with my ratings. Otherwise I might not feel free to speak my mind. Each essay I write shows how far away from conventional I really am. The math I included this time is a direct refutation of Relativity theory. Yet it is just a small amount. I put parts of what I think and the math that supports what I think out for consideration on their own. It all comes together at my website. It is either important or not. Either way time will tell and it is my website that will eventually determine it for me. Thanks for your consideration.

James

    Georgina,

    Something missing in my message above is the recognition that my essay might simply not be of interest or convincing to others. If so, then it deserves to be where it is. You are doing very well. Best of luck to you as ratings settle down over the next month.

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    James,

    but how can people know if it is interesting or important to them if they do not first look? That is also how I feel about my own essay. I do not have an enticing biography to highly educated specialists. You can't sell something if you can't get the customers through the door. Well nowadays you can, but it is meant as an analogy for the competition.

    I think that those who like something that is not too technical but which also looks for alternatives to current theory, developing other ways of thinking about physics, might find yours interesting. Even if they don't agree. Those that want to use only the current tool box in the prescribed manner or are more interested reporting historical development of our current understanding than developing new understanding may be less likely to want to read it.I think it is about finding -your- audience.

    I think it is sensible not to be too concerned about the ratings. I certainly also feel free to speak my mind. Though I am also bearing in mind that the comments are meant to be constructive. So I do not want to be overly pedantic or nit picking. There is a huge variety of presentation styles and content, and all of the essays have some merit.

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    James,

    I see similarities in the conclusions of our essays but I admire the detail you use in showing an analogue nature of reality.

    My view of models is of representing discrete views of reality not the flow of reality itself.

    Jim Hoover

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    Hi Jim,

    I am also a Jim; but, I use James on the Internet because I have a website using the name James A. Putnam and I prefer that readers know who to hold accountable for what I say. Thank you for your remarks. I need to read your essay. Welcome to the fqxi.org essay contest.

    James

    James

    Thanks for your response. I originally tried to condense a rich tapestry of connected solutions down to one 'master key' but so few were able to see how it works or agreed (you excluded of course) I felt I had to 'up the anti' by wheeling in the rest of the supporting evidence, covering most areas of physics! And it keeps coming (look at 2 reports on page 18 of the 19th Feb New Scientist).

    I certainly think yours is noteworthy, and, at least the main/first part, consistent with a number of other excellent and important essays, most of which you've probably read. Yours is worth a higher rating and I shall give it so. (hold on tight!) I hope you agree the same with mine, and those others consistent with ours.

    Best wishes

    Peter

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      Dear Peter,

      Thank you very much. I am still trying to digest all the essays. My essay still remains at a low level. So, I assume that means that I have received poor ratings also. I understand that you do not accept a lot of what I write. You liked the first part, but, not the second of my essay. I heard from another, qualified participant that they liked the words and not the math. I happen to like my essay for all of its parts. I am not a disciple of the mechanical ideology. I use it as much as is necessary to demonstrate that, in my opinion, its theories are false. However, writing bits and pieces just doesn't quite cut it. That is why I explained to Georgina that it is my website that I rely upon to make my case. However, this is the third annual contest that I have participated in. I like all three of my essays. I think the first is perhaps the most important. It deals with electric charge. So, each of us is covering some ground. Maybe we even get in each other's ways. In the end, I expect that the blog discussions and the essay contests will result in fqxi.org having exposed important new perspectives that correct past theoretical ideas.

      James

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      I find the idea that the universe might be digital in the sense that binary language is digital to be questionable. The attempts to explain the universe by comparing it to a digital computer are unconvincing to me. Those attempts appear to me to be trying to force a code upon the universe. Since we do not make exact or complete measurements, the study of the universe probably is usefully representable by a code. However, I fail to see why that code would be digital. I am not prepared to argue this case against professionals; however, I did think of a simple question by which to begin addressing it. At another author's forum I posed the question: Is Morse code digital? My point was that if we use a code to model the universe, what is the best code. I do not suggest that it is Morse code; yet, I think that that question moves us in a more correct direction than do models based upon binary code.

      James

      Hi James,

      You may have already come across my remarks on 'analog computing', if so, ignore this.

      I suppose I should be surprised how many seem to find credible a 'giant digital computer in the sky' [sarcasm off]. I attribute it to the confusion based on non-local, non-real physics that so-called violations of Bell's inequality have seemed to many to imply. Anyway, I agree with your remark above. I too find it questionable.

      Rather than an 'out of this world digital processor' I prefer an 'in this world analog processor', since that is essentially what 'fields' do. If we can assume the existence of 'perfect' components used to build the processor, there's no reason that's obvious to me that the processing could not be analog, not digital.

      It's not even certain that so-called 'quantum processing' is not essentially analog in nature. If each 'node' on a 'grid' is an analog processor, suitably connected to other nodes, there's no evident reason to assume digital. 'Oscillations' come quite naturally to analog elements. And one need not assume 2-D processors that favor the logic 'layouts' and construction techniques used for today's semi-conductor processing. An analog processor should be implementable as a 3-D structure, in which case analog processing may be the preferred implementation.

      Problems with analog processing were based on connectivity and on imperfect building blocks and on cost factors (among other things). I am not aware of any analysis that limits what can be achieved in principle with analog processing.

      These arguments are not meant to be seen as 'in favor' of analog computing as the basis of physical reality. Rather they are arguments 'against' the idea of digital computing as the (basically mechanical) explanation of our world, since 'in-world' analog processing by fields seems far more likely than 'out-of-world' hardware and code. The 'code' for analog processing is in the connectivity.

      Edwin Eugene Klingman

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      Dear Edwin,

      I had seen your comments on analog computing. From my perspective, I see no way that the universe could operate other than in an analog manner. Call it an analog computer. I do see very sharp variations in physical interactions that could be reasonably approximated as isolated activity for theoretical purposes. But, I can see no way that the universe could continue to operate as a cooperative effort if there was any lack of communication or lack of purpose to any degree anywhere. I see both of these concepts, just pretending that they could exist, as purely destructive. In other words, any lack of control anywhere would lead to lack of control everywhere. So, for me, analog is in and digital is out. However, reading some essays , it appears that digital is often used in an approximate form. In other words, it does not necessarily represent separation, but, rather sharp distinction. For me, it either means separation or it means that digital is a noteworthy form of variation of analog. Finally, I see no value, other than for computing purposes, to coding the universe just to have to uncode it in order to properly model it. Meaning digital, i.e. separation, must revert back to analog to reveal meaning.

      James

        James,

        As usual, we seem to see things very much alike.

        I've been thinking about the 'universe as computer' contingent. Unfortunately, I think this train is just leaving the station. I do have quite a bit of computer design experience, and may decide to spend some time applying it in such a way as to derail the train. I suspect that most such are software programmers and have not thought through the 'hardware' aspects of their ideas.

        Anyway, I'm glad to have your thoughts on this issue.

        By the way, I voted for you when you first submitted your essay. After a week I did not see the score show up and contacted Brendan Foster, who replied that "Community votes are currently hidden."

        Edwin Eugene Klingman

        Edwin,

        I think: Theory has become an end in itself. Early theory contained speculation about the nature of properties, from my perspective some important parts of it remain, but, it was not bad practice. Temporary measures suffice until we learn better. In the meantime, theory remained useful for practical purposes. Not being a physicist, I am not certain when the harmful speculation began, but, my impression is that curled up dimension theory was an important part of freeing theorists from being confined to firm footholds. They began to race to fly highest and furthest into theory heaven. A place of mathematical beauty and imagination. Now the universe is a computer cranking out information theory. I think that we have much backing up to do and it can begin with confronting 'virtual', that word appears to sneaking toward meaning 'real', reality.

        Thank you for your voting effort. I would like to be rated higher, but, my ideas are receiving the worth that others place on them. For me, I like those ideas a lot and am continuing to expand my work. I am writing that paper on thermodynamic and Boltzmann's entropy. I was invited through my website, they probably assume I am somebody, to submit a paper and I chose to do the entropy one. I submitted an abstract. I will find out next month if there is sufficient interest for me to submit the paper. I will have it completed before then. Whether it is accepted or rejected, it will be added to my website. I think it is going to be very good. Certainly very original. Lots of changes to fundamental theory.

        I enjoy doing the work too much to worry about poor reception by others. Fundamental unity seems possible to me and worth the effort to achieve. Actually you have already achieved it. My approach is just different and tied to typical fundamentals of theoretical physics. The purpose of it is to demonstrate that the current fundamentals are wrong. Even if others came to agree with that because of my theory, I would oppose my own theory as representing anything more than just another mechanical type theory. Any theory that cannot account for intelligent life is at the least very incomplete and very likely phoney.

        James