Alan thanks for responses above. I agree and am predicting toroids are the way ahead with a pretty fundamental range of applications. I note I didn't seem to have rated your essay so expect a boost. Hope you'll rate mine if you haven't yet.
Best wishes
Peter
Hi Peter,
I left this for Alan on this blog site on Mar. 7, 2011 @ 14:58 GMT:
Hi Alan,
We may be thinking along parallel lines.
If a Black Hole is static (I'm not sure that it can really exist, but consider the question), then quantum gravity may build a spacetime lattice similar to a Carbon-60 buckyball/ soccer ball/ truncated icosahedron just outside of and surrounding the singularity. This symmetry could potentially be stable against the crushing gravitational (near?) singularity.
If we have a rotating Black Hole, then torsion from the spinning Black Hole may cause a pair of nested Buckyballs to morph into their homotopic cousin, a lattice-like torus. This lattice-like torus has some similarities with your Mobius figure.
I was worried about how discrete toroidal lattices could transition into continuously differentiable spacetime, but it may be as simple as Philip Gibbs "qubits of strings" idea. Basically, the lattice point is the end of a string (and the strings expand within the Black Hole as Sreenath's logarithmic spirals), and a large number of lattice points and strings exist (10^41 or more) such that spacetime seemingly blends into a continuum.
Perhaps we are all thinking along parallel lines? I had some other comments that tied into Alan's Archimede's Screw idea as well.
Have Fun!
Dr. Cosmic Ray
Hi Doc,
Yes, we definitely are thinking along the same lines, more than I initially thought in fact. The football-to-torus tranformation link was most appreciated, that's exactly what I'm on about. Very nice graphics. I'd forgotten about the simple knot shape, so that's particularly useful. I'm now understanding how other people's ideas are more similar to my own than I first realised. Thanks for bringing the details to my attention. I'll endeavour to give your essay another look a.s.a.p.
Bye for now, Alan
Peter:
Thanks for the vote, I need all I can! I've scored your's and appreciate the connection with the toroidal shape of structure at certain scales. It's a fascinating journey that we are all on and the answer to a full t.o.e is within our lifetimes and most likely within a year or two imo.
Cheers, Alan
Here's an attachment to explain the idea of a graviton travelling around a wraparound universe which would then seem like a force of repulsion. I'm talking to an interested third party in his Subrealsim blog. The second diagram shows my latest thoughts about the structure of the next scale up from helix rings..Attachment #1: Note2.jpgAttachment #2: Note1.jpg
My latest thoughts:
A bond is due to increased local irregularities in gluon emission streams by protons and to a lesser extent neutrons.
I've just clicked a bit..All the forces can be explained by the Archimedes screw representing the structural analogue graviton. All forces greater than the 'gravity force' are due to local irregularities of structure which exaggerate the asymmetry of the graviton-like structure itself. A graviton should be modelled as vector quantity. All the forces can be explained by the relative flux density of gravitons.Attachment #1: 1_Note1.jpgAttachment #2: 1_Note2.jpg
Hi Alan,
In Chapter 4 of my book (please click on "Preview" under the picture of the cover for a free partial preview), I define a Grand-Unified-Mediating (GUM) Boson that carries properties of the Color, Electromagnetic, Weak, Gravitational, etc. Forces based on occupational probabilities. Of course, the gluon is the most probable GUM boson, so your notes are close to the idea.
Perhaps we have different screws with different thread finenesses (I think that the weaker gravity has a finer thread, and the stronger electromagnetism has a courser thread) and probabilities based on quantum statistical properties.
Have Fun!
Dr. Cosmic Ray
Hi Ray,
I'd like to applaud you on such an excellent endeavour as your grandiose book. It's just the kind of thing I've wanted to do myself. I have a non-mathematical approach to begin with though, so I would be lost quite quickly if I tried to read it perhaps. I'm sure you can gain something from the Archimedes screw idea, it can explain the galaxy rotation curve mystery as well as dark energy. See the new thread below,
You have fun too Ray,
Best wishes, Alan
The idea of the Archimedes screw as a model for the graviton leads to an explanation for the galaxy curve conundrum i.e. the reason why stars are observed to be orbiting faster than expected towards the outer edge of the spiral galaxies. See my notes for further details..Attachment #1: 2_Note2.jpgAttachment #2: Note3.jpg
Hi Alan,
Thank You! I think that Physics is a necessarily bilingual thought process involving both language and mathematics. Some people fall too heavily on the language side, and some fall too heavily on the mathematics side. Ultimately, a succesful theory will usually involve mathematics applied to an idea.
Perhaps I am too mathematical (I have a PhD in Physics, but only a BS Minor in Mathematics - so I'm not the most extreme mathematician) to appeal to a general audience. Some of my FQXi friends "beat me up" over falsifiability. Chapter 6 of my book did address some falsifiable ideas (I explained Dark Energy with Variable Coupling Theory), but the truth is that I'm always trying to push further beyond the horizon.
It was easy and inexpensive to publish my book as a print-on-demand book on Lulu.com, and pay for Amazon distribution.
Have Fun!
Dr. Cosmic Ray
Hi again Ray,
Yes, I understand what you mean, although simulation modelling is yet another angle to view the discrepancy between maths and language. It's a viable alternative to a mathematical model when solving problems in the business world for example.
The helical screw model gives matter a new fundamental shape and dynamics which the standard model lacks imo. This non-spherical emission of gravitons is in stark contrast to the Newtonian/Einsteinian acceptance that "all things exert a gravitatinal field equally in all directions". This asymmetry of the gravitational field allows for the stars to experience a greater pull towards the galactic plane, due to their rotation giving more order to the inner fluid matter of the stellar core. Both the structure of the emitter and the absorber of the gravity particles is important. It also has implications for hidden matter at the centre of the galaxies..
Thanks for the insider knowledge on getting a book published with the minimum of fuss. Cheers.
KInd regards, Alan
On day-by-day thinking about the novel idea of a mechanical Archimedes screw in empty space representing the force of gravity by gravitons, I have deduced an explanation for the galaxy rotation curve anomaly.
The helical screw model gives matter a new fundamental shape and dynamics which the standard model lacks imo. This non-spherical emission of gravitons is in stark contrast to the Newtonian/Einsteinian acceptance that "all things exert a gravitatinal field equally in all directions". This asymmetry of the gravitational field allows for the stars to experience a greater pull towards the galactic plane, due to their rotation giving more order to the inner fluid matter of the stellar core. Both the structure of the emitter and the absorber of the gravity particles is important. It also has implications for hidden matter at the centre of the galaxies..
I've given the idea some more thought and come to the conclusion that the stars furthest from the galactic centre must have a more 'bipolar nature' than the matter of stars of the inner halo presumably. This is the reason they have wandered towards the galactic plane whilst the halo stars have not. The outer stars' configuration means they experience a greater interaction with the flux pattern of the graviton field. Are the stars of the outer arms simply spinning faster?? We are on the outer edge of a spiral arm and so this would fit with this hypothesis. Our sun could have spin which is higher that that of the average halo star. This relationship between spin and distance from the galactic centre is a fundamental feature which ties in with the suggested mechanism of their creation.
All that is needed is an additional factor of stellar spin speed as well as it's mass and distance from the galactic centre. The relationship should then give calculated values which match those of the observed.Attachment #1: GalaxyRotationCurve.jpg
Hi Alan,
I'm still playing with different versions of Moebius Surface's and my lattice-like toroids. This geometrical puzzle has me stumped so far...
Have Fun!
I've just had a thought:
Is it -less- tidal strength which decreases the ocean currents and therefore less heat is transported from the equator to the poles? This is an even simpler explanation of why the Earth has been entering an ice age every 100,000 years!
Less tidal strength could perhaps influence the Earth's atmosphere so that more solar radiation reaches the surface..
This same logic can be applied to explain why the moon is receding from the Earth at around 3.4cm/year. Is the moon migrating towards the Earth's equatorial plane? Could the laser deflector technology be used to test this hypothesis I wonder? It would seem feasible to try and detect whether the moon's average elevation is declining, which would help validate the hypothesis.Attachment #1: Goddard_Spaceflight_Center_Laser_Ranging_Facility.jpgAttachment #2: Apollo.jpg
The new galaxy rotation explanation is perhaps better suited to help explain volcanic Io rather than the moon. The moon is receding from the Earth which suggests a nudge -away- from the Earth's equatorial plane.Attachment #1: io.jpg
Here's some data which agrees with this hypothesis Gulf Stream Leaves Its Signature Seven Miles High. Rather worryingly, here's something else Britain faces big freeze as Gulf Stream loses strength
"The Atlantic Ocean "conveyor belt" that carries warm water north from the tropics has weakened by 30 per cent in 12 years, scientists have discovered. The findings, from the National Oceanography Centre in Southampton, give the strongest indication yet that Europe's central heating system is breaking down.."Attachment #1: Gulf_Stream_Clouds.jpg
Here's another article (2010 compared to the earlier 2005 one) which states Gulf Stream 'is not slowing down'Attachment #1: ocean_circulation.jpg
