Alternative Models of Cosmology

Gary Simpson

Jason,

Welcome to the site. Georgina is asking you if your idea makes any testable predictions as required by the scientific method.

Best Regards,

Gary Simpson

Georgina Woodward

Jason, I am interested in the idea of conscious thought feeding back to material reality, not via actions but the thoughts themselves. I have no model for how it could occur and would like to rule it out. I like many people have my share of experiences of unreasonable coincidences. The rational attitude, I think, is that things happen and there is no way of knowing if the same would have happened without the thoughts preceding them, so the coincidence can't be attributed to the thought. The explanatory framework I have developed has one way input from external material reality to internal model. However there is the possibility that the external material reality that is the source of the input is not itself 'ground floor' reality. Making the product a simulation of a simulation.

Any evidence of that and ideas about how to obtain it is interesting.

Jason Wolfe

HI Georgina,

There is literally no limit to my ability to envision the mechanics of how consciousness can exist prior to the big bang, and independently of the physical universe. What I cannot do is give proof. I can suggest a set of experiments, but it would sound crazy. The "universe from nothing" is a big problem. But if all possible combinaries of universes are rolled up, like ours before the big bang, then interesting things are possible.

Wish I could be more helpful.

Jason

Georgina Woodward

Jason, if the external source reality is itself a simulation, extra dimensions need not be spatially rolled up and spatially unfurl over time, as you describe. I'm thinking of the analogy of levels in a game. Though the dimensions are encoded levels not yet unlocked are not in any way spatially distributed as dimensions. When a new level in the game is attained the dimensions of the new level are manifest in the players mental model of the simulated environment. There isn't a gradual unfurling but- now the dimensions are not accessible, to now they are accessible. As far as I know there aren't any games where things from yet unlocked levels can affect the level in play but I imagine it could theoretically be designed that way.

Jason Wolfe

Georgina,

If universes unfurl as line segments, then GOD is emergent. The more a universe unfurls, the more particles will escape. It takes particles to create the material substance of a life form. I get it that the neurons store the information, and the links between the neurons simply pass along the potential, but you have to start somewhere. In my model, rolled up universes supply the building blocks, but they unroll as line segments. With enough particles, life forms are emergent. The unfurling of universes is what causes consciousness, all before the big bang. If you go this way, then a large scale "plane of consciousness " is emergent.

Jason Wolfe

It also follows that if you wanted to open one or more of these other universes to take advantage of its properties, you would have to create a network with links, and very carefully energize the links. You could open a superluminal universe this way.

Jason Wolfe

Since I have kept my promise. I gave you a self consistent theory for how consciousness and life can exist before the big bang. I told you where the particles came from. Super chemistry or alchemy is emergent. Agree or disagree as you like, but I accomplished this with only the assumption that a universe unfolds as a set of line segments.

kurt stocklmeir

em drive - metamaterials at 1 end photons reflect from metamaterials - photons reflect from both ends Kurt Stocklmeir

kurt stocklmeir

I think em drive not using metamaterials can work - the ether moves - third law of Newton is true Kurt Stocklmeir

Georgina Woodward

Jason, how does one 'objectively' know if unfurling of another universe has happened? Rather than just noticing something you were previously unaware of, or are merely imagining something that was not actualized externally.

PS This reCAPTCHA thing is stopping me from adding posts onto the one I'm replying to, and does not seem to be stopping the 'Spam' posts.

Jason Wolfe

Hi Georgina,

I typed up a whole explanation, and then reCAPTCHA caused me to lose it. :(

Jason Wolfe

Georgina,

Okay, let's start with basic cosmology. There was a big bang 13.7billion years ago. From that fact, we know that the universe was once very small; some say the size of a pea, others say a singularity. I say it was rolled up as a set of line segments. The reason that we don't notice extremely high density rolled up universes is because they are not high density. The negative potential energy of gravity adds to the positive energy of the big bang. The result is not likely to be zero, but whatever minimal energy that is required to uniquely characterize it, so when it leaks particles, the particles will be identified with that universe.

This is my thinking about where the big bang came from. Imagine a big nothingness that has existed forever. The nothingness cannot stay a perfect nothingness, but develops cracks and fissures. these cracks and fissures will appear and disappear quickly, maybe in the nanosecond time period, but without any clocks, it's hard to say. All different kinds of cracks and fissures will develop, different shapes, different kinds of universes. When these fissures form, particles will escape. In effect, they will tunnel though some energy barrier that is lowered when the crack forms. The idea of cracks led me to the idea of line segments. I had to massage the idea, and came up with this. Treat the fissures as line segments. I borrowed the idea of holes and electrons from semiconductor physics. Instead of a hole and an electron, you get a line segment of positive energy and a line segment of gravitational potential energy.

Remember that the brain is the one thing that we know for a fact has consciousness. With all those neurons connected together, it's basically a bunch of line segments that can become energized. I'm not forgetting about neurochemicals and synaptic clefts and all that. I am testing the hypothesis that the gravitational potential of the line segments is emergent consciousness.

When rolled up universes unfurl, they emit particles. Basically cracks and fissures in the nothingness produce particles. A large enough number of particles will eventually lead to mechanisms that can control the opening and closing of rolled up universes. Mechanisms will develop that will lead to self sustaining systems, self sustaining systems will develop into life forms: all before the big bang. God is emergent.

Such lifeforms would grow stronger and stronger in their ability to unfurl universes to obtain whatever particles are needed. Networks would result that can open many different kinds of universes. Networks lead to brains, lead to consciousness. The idea of a large scale network made up out of mechanisms that can open universes would themselves produce emergent consciousness: a plane of consciousness. This would be in addition to the consciousness created by opening universes.

In the extreme case, where there are huge numbers of unfurled universes (one kind of universe), it is like a giant set of cracks, fissures of energy. Eventually a state change is reached, the potential gravitational energy converts to Einsteinian gravity and a big bang occurs.

Jason Wolfe

An advantage to my approach is that it starts from a point of zero entropy. At

some time in the past, before the big bang there was zero entropy in the

nothingness. Over time, fissures would form.(increase in entropy). The

fissures leaked particles (another increase in entropy). When there were

enough particles from all different kinds of universes, some smaller set of the particles would engage in reactions, transmutations, chemistry, biochemistry,

mechanism of life, life itself, and eventually consciousness.

I said that these universes open as line segments based upon imagining fissures

and cracks in the pre-big bang nothingness. The nature of the crack would

determine what kind of particles are released. I gleaned the idea that a

particular kind of rolled up universe would localize if the proper conditions

were created. Thus it would be the job of the mechanisms that self assemble

to be able to create these fissures to release particles that are like building

blocks or even food to the emergent life forms. These particles exist outside of space time or somehow have their own space-time with it's own particle of that space-time's properties. Whatever life forms exist would need a supply

of nutrients, and would get them by opening up a fissure in a certain

particular way.

Bashir Yusuf

Dear all

Once again,

I very please to your wonderful disscusions here,

I hope you did a lot,

I want You, FQXI and all Scientific commuties, to be aware and make discussion, that my theory is very important for fundamental particle theory.

I m quite happy my essay in 2010 FQXI essay contest, "Linking Theory" which i m really convinced to be a completed version of GUT, which Albert Einstein started a century ago, with his predictions.

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/794

It supports all known physical phenomena, and recently great Physics discoveries.

2017 wining Idiea, Gravitational wave which my theory is based even more deeply.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2017/thorne-facts.html

2015 Noble prize wining discovery, Mass of Neutrinos.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2015/

This two great discoveries combined four forces into one (Gravitational) force, and iliminated partially the most worst term in current physics '' Massless particle',

Now Great hope that this ugly term will totally eliminated soon, since the most fundamental particle Photon remains in this term, 'Massless photon'' in current physics arena.

Other good news for the future is that curent physicsts calculate mass enegy, and obtain exact same number which I determined as Photon mass

E = mc2. m = E/c2. m = 1eV/c2. 1,7ﾃ--10^-36 kg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt

but seems they dont understand well.

The theory predicts that smallest Neutrino weight is the weight of two (Natures elementary particles) Photons. 2x1.7x10^-36 kg

This theory may seem strange to most people and require illustration, but is simple and profound, why it predicted recent physics discoveries. I could explain it more, but the essay faced challenges of the community misunderstand. Therefore it become the most silent essay of the contest, 'is Reality Digital or analogue'

Be also aware that this theory treats all forces as gravitatinal force.

Ex. Electromagetic as Gravitational wave (gravitational dynamics)

A significant proof for the briliant work of 2017 noble prize winners, Gravitational wave.

Refering LIGO VIRGO interferometer expriment.

Isn't wave dynamics (Light) from atom(proton-electron) and wave dynanamics (Gravitational wave) from two black holes(particles),same natural phenomena and speed but different names scales?

"Particle particle..... Gravity gravity... Sphere.sphere," seems to be Nature's language.

While the Human Language is full of missleading names of scales

The best way to understand the Nature and communicate it, is to bear in mind, "mass space and time", so physics must protect the validity of these three terms in any expression.

Do you understand, what Gravitational wave really is?

Have you ever compared Earth-moon system to Proton-electron system and measure their wave frequecies at same scope? Isn't Earth-Moon systewave Gravitational wave which takes a month, extremely low? About 2592000 seconds

Would you ever imagine some type of electromagnitic wave, that have frequency of 0.0000003 Hertz, and very stronger force in magnitude and same wave speed as an electromagnetic wave do, What would you call to that wave? Electromagnetic or Gravitational wave? or the same?

Thanks Speedy orbiting two black hole and the briliant LIGO VIRGO experiment which make it possible at same scope, (Hearable scope of what we already named Electromagnetic wave)

But you have to understand that both waves are one type of wave.

Which name we call, electromagnetic or G wave?.

I hope to, not being the fifth missleading name of same phenomena,(GRAVITY).

On the other hand the theory explains dark matter, which is extremely condensed elementary particle(Photons), to extremely small size due to gravity.

And categorizes to main types according to their initial clumping quanta of Nature elementary particle(Photon)

Compare Black hole as a bigger and extremely heavy Proton without electron and Neutral dark matter WIMP as a bigger and extremely heavy Neutron

Think if every thing in the unverse is composed a number of Photons, (an elementary building block)

Einstein and Newton could understand, what I m really talking.

Best wishes

Bashir.

Jason Wolfe

Start with nothingness, a long time before the big bang, there was nothingness. Then imagine cracks forming in the nothingness, fissures. Those cracks are different kinds of universes coming into existence and then vanishing. This must be impossible for you guys to imagine.

kurt stocklmeir

em drive using metamaterials - metamaterials at 1 end photons reflect from metamaterials - photons reflect from both ends - photons around metamaterials have negative energy negative radiation pressure - this breaks all laws of Newton - sound can be used to make rocket in space move - metamaterials for sound at 1 end sound reflects from metamaterials - sound reflects from both ends - phonons can be used to make rocket move in space - metamaterials for phonons at 1 end phonons reflect from metamaterials phonon reflect from both ends - breaks all laws of Newton Kurt Stocklmeir

Bashir Yusuf

Dear Frank

I agree with you that

Electromagnetic wave as Gravitational wave (gravitational dynamics).

Its difficult to attach a file here, but you can also find down in comment field of my essay in 2010 contest.

I will more explanation about this, and even how Charge and Gravity is the same phenomena (Gravity) but in different scale.

Photon (elementary particle) is also what is causing the charge.

I want read your essay,

Please let us discuss it more.

Best wishes.

Bashir.Attachment #1: 3_Bashir_Quantum_Mech_and_Relativity_Theory.pdf

kurt stocklmeir

em drive using metamaterials - some metamaterials create negative radiation prsssure like metamaterials with a negative index - metamaterials at 1 end that make negative radiation pressure photons reflect from metamaterials - photons reflect from both ends - photons around metamaterials like metamaterials with a negative index make negative radiation pressure - this breaks all laws of Newton - this stops conservation of energy momentum and angular momentum

Kurt Stocklmeir

kurt stocklmeir

em drive using metamaterials that create negative radiation pressure - metamaterials at 1 end photons reflect from metamaterials - photons reflect from both ends - photons around metamaterials create negative radiation pressure - this breaks all laws of Newton - anisotropic materials with negative permittivity can be used for this - sound can be used - metamaterials for sound at 1 end sound bounces off metamaterials - sound bounces off both ends - phonons can be used - metamaterials for phonons at 1 end phonons reflect from metamaterials - phonons reflect from both ends Kurt Stocklmeir

kurt stocklmeir

em drive metamaterials at 1 end that create negative radiation pressure - the rocket will get about 2 times momentum of a photon when the photon bounces off 1 end - use superconductors to make metamaterials - when photons are flying around the resonator the photons may change energy - many metamaterials at 1 end for a lot of frequencies of photons - this breaks all laws of Newton - there is not conservation of energy momentum and angular momentum

Kurt Stocklmeir

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