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Dear Lowe,

I have been trying to convey this very simple absolute truth about our inner most self that you have put forth in scientific terms. All answers lie in the answer to a simple question

who am I?

I am a verse, I is the uni, put together the universe.

There is only "one" singularity in the relativistic universe,

there is only "singualrity" in the absolute universe and we are all in it.

0 = infinity

absolutely nothing = relatively everything

I am one of our kind I is every one of all kinds.

Love,

Sridattadev.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768

    "Relativity and Its Roots" By Banesh Hoffmann

    "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether."

    What if Einstein had not "resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas"? Has David Lowe ever considered this scenario?

    Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

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      http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64&Itemid=66

      Stephen Hawking: "Interestingly enough, Laplace himself wrote a paper in 1799 on how some stars could have a gravitational field so strong that light could not escape, but would be dragged back onto the star. He even calculated that a star of the same density as the Sun, but two hundred and fifty times the size, would have this property. But although Laplace may not have realised it, the same idea had been put forward 16 years earlier by a Cambridge man, John Mitchell, in a paper in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society. Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But a famous experiment, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, showed that light always travelled at a speed of one hundred and eighty six thousand miles a second, no matter where it came from. How then could gravity slow down light, and make it fall back."

      Was Stephen Hawking right in rejecting the idea that light could be slowed down by gravity by referring to the Michelson-Morley experiment? If not, and if the speed of light does vary with the gravitational potential, can this explain e.g. Arp's "intrinsic" redshift?

      Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

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      Interesting ideas but too many and far in between. Don't seem to have the beauty, elegance and physical groundedness that ideas like for example relativity and the uncertainty principle had.

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      Copied from my post in the "crystallizing universe" forum:

      Suppose that spacetime and the wave function are identical, in the sense of a Hilbert space plus time, rather than a complete Euclidean 3-space plus time as in general relativity. One would then have an n-dimension extension of general relativity, as well as access to the hyperbolic space where string theory and holography originate -- that's what my "time barrier" preprint is all about.

      There doesn't seem to be any physical principle that would prevent Einstein's general relativity -- which models a universe finite in time and unbounded in space -- from being converted to one finite in space and unbounded in time, as Lowe (et al) have it.

      Tom

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        It's possible, though doubtful, I'll get the links right on the first try! Here's the correction: "time barrier"

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        This might be interesting from a formal perspective. Certain equivalencies between conformal field data on the boundary of an anti de Sitter spacetime and information on the horizon of a BTZ black hole it contains might provide some insights into current problems.

        If you have a spherical cloud of particles falling towards a central gravity field, such as a black hole, the spherical cloud becomes prolate ellipsoidal, or cigar shaped. If you are on a co-moving frame with this you would see galaxies at antipodal points moving away (red shifted) and galaxies along an equatorial plane normal to the antipodal points moving towards you. These galaxies would be blue shifted. This would be the main signature of living in a spacetime described on the largest scale by a Schwarzschild metric. There is no data to support this sort of model.

        Cheers LC

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        Why can't FQXi give 103 grand to someone like this:

        http://www.fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/2008CChristov_WaveMotion_45_154_EvolutionWavePackets.pdf]http://www.fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/2008CChristov_WaveMotion_45_154_EvolutionWavePackets.pdf[/link]

        Hasn't anyone studied the history of theory evolution enough to realize that when the extrapolations get ever more bizarre, it's time to review the assumptions. One more patch on an outdated program doesn't cure the cause of the confusion, only some of the symptoms.

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          The Hawking quote is taken out of context. The question at the end is one that might have been asked in the late 19th century. In the article, Hawking goes on to describe general relativity as the resolution for the problem of light apparently "slowing down" in strong gravitational fields. In other words, it doesn't; like everything else it follows the curvature of space, and when space is sufficiently curved, light can make a U-turn, even at full speed.

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          Karl Coryat wrote: "In the article, Hawking goes on to describe general relativity as the resolution for the problem of light apparently "slowing down" in strong gravitational fields. In other words, it doesn't..."

          In all versions of Einstein's relativity light does slow down in a gravitational field (for lack of space, I am only giving a quotation):

          http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_variable.htm

          "Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German. It predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page 93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in 1911."

          Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

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          http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,757145,00.html

          Monday, Dec. 14, 1936: "Other causes for the redshift were suggested, such as cosmic dust or a change in the nature of light over great stretches of space. Two years ago Dr. Hubble admitted that the expanding universe might be an illusion, but implied that this was a cautious and colorless view. Last week it was apparent that he had shifted his position even further away from a literal interpretation of the redshift, that he now regards the expanding universe as more improbable than a non-expanding one."

          http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html

          David A. Plaisted: "This suggests that the red shift may be caused by something other than the expansion of the universe, at least in part. This could be a loss of energy of light rays as they travel, or A DECREASE IN THE SPEED OF LIGHT..."

          Is this "DECREASE IN THE SPEED OF LIGHT" realistic?

          Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

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          See also:

          http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1009/1009.0953v1.pdf

          Observational evidence favours a static universe, David F. Crawford, Sydney Institute for Astronomy, School of Physics, University of Sydney

          "The common attribute of all Big Bang cosmologies is that they are based on the assumption that the universe is expanding. However examination of the evidence for this expansion clearly favours a static universe. (...) Curvature cosmology (CC) is a static tired-light cosmology where the Hubble redshift (and many other redshifts) is produced by an interaction of photons with curved spacetime called curvature redshift."

          http://www.springerlink.com/content/w6777w07xn737590/fulltext.pdf

          Astrophys Space Sci (2009) 323: 205211, Misconceptions about the Hubble recession law, Wilfred H. Sorrell

          "Based upon these historical considerations, the first conclusion of the present study is that astronomical evidence in favor of an expanding universe is circumstantial at best. The past eight decades of astronomical observations do not necessarily support the idea of an expanding universe. (...) Reber (1982) made the interesting point that Edwin Hubble was not a promoter of the expanding universe idea. Some personal communications from Hubble reveal that he thought a model universe based upon the tired-light hypothesis is more simple and less irrational than a model universe based upon an expanding space-time geometry."

          Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

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          Karl,

          Forgive my off the top of the head question, but since atoms can absorb light, bumping the electron to a higher energy level, isn't the electron a form of light that is making turns around the proton? Wouldn't this mean a proton is a small black hole, or more accurately, a black hole is a large proton?

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          Dear Pentcho

          Some think that universe is expanding

          some think that universe is contracting

          some think that universe is eternal

          I know that the universe is what I wants it to be.

          Love,

          Sridattadev.

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          What history book are you getting this stuff from, John?

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          Tom,

          Which do you wish to consider: Epicycles comes to mind. Economic bubbles provide a very similar example of feedback loops blowing up.

          It's not as though science hasn't studied these processes in detail. Complexity Theory comes to mind. The most common parable would be "The straw that broke the camel's back." It isn't that the initial error or overstepping which causes the major problems, but the continuation of the error without correcting it.

          You seem to give the impression that any logic not expressed in a mathematical construct is fatally contaminated by "philosophy" and any which is, is validated by this method.

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          I am just curious: If Hubble was not a promoter of an expanding universe, who was it and why did he so?

          Eckard

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          Dear Pentcho,

          There are still many scientists who are not satisfied with SR. You might sign their petition. While I am an old engineer who does not yet deal long enough with SR as to take issue, I found out that the re might be a quite simple explanation for a lot of mistakes:

          So far, physical models assume closed systems. Galileo Galilei's and Newton's relativity can be convincingly understood with the metaphor of a moving vehicle.

          Einstein extended this principle of relativity to include electromagnetism too. Was this justified? While mechanical actions can only be directly transmitted, i.e. not at distance, electric and magnetic fields are thought to extend in space without limitation. There is no encapsulating vehicle for them.

          Opponents of SR questioned that c is an upper limit to the transfer of action. While there is a lot of evidence that supports this limit, I looked in vain for any clear distinction between theory and measurable reality. Is there any belonging evidence that confirms the postulated validity of relativity in excess of closed systems?

          Eckard

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          John,

          Again I ask, where are you getting the information to support your claims? Epicycle calculations were _always_ supported by philosophy. Economics? Are you serious?

          Tom